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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Gentle Mental on Feb 10, 2022 9:45:14 GMT 1, I think it’s all about 12000 diamond hands till auction house moon launch.
Rambo your Lambo.
Something something.
I think it’s all about 12000 diamond hands till auction house moon launch.
Rambo your Lambo.
Something something.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Londown 01 on Feb 10, 2022 9:50:38 GMT 1, From a Heni mod on the discord discussion “There's a laminate above the giclee butterfly print which is then printed onto using a process called screen printing (in which ink or in our case glitter is pressed through a prepared screen of fine mesh material so as to create a picture or pattern)” The glitter is screen printed, then sealed, and isn’t going anywhere. The prints aren’t going to fall apart.
I don't think that this means that the glitter/ screen print is sealed. The mod only says that there is giclee + laminate + screen print, and that's it.
... he then only explains what a screen print is.
From a Heni mod on the discord discussion “There's a laminate above the giclee butterfly print which is then printed onto using a process called screen printing (in which ink or in our case glitter is pressed through a prepared screen of fine mesh material so as to create a picture or pattern)” The glitter is screen printed, then sealed, and isn’t going anywhere. The prints aren’t going to fall apart. I don't think that this means that the glitter/ screen print is sealed. The mod only says that there is giclee + laminate + screen print, and that's it. ... he then only explains what a screen print is. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Dice on Feb 10, 2022 9:51:20 GMT 1, I think it’s all about 12000 diamond hands till auction house moon launch. Rambo your Lambo. Something something.
HODL?
I think it’s all about 12000 diamond hands till auction house moon launch. Rambo your Lambo. Something something. HODL? |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Londown 01 on Feb 10, 2022 9:58:07 GMT 1, So much knicker wetting on this thread, mostly by non buyers. Embarrassing.
How would you even know?
So much knicker wetting on this thread, mostly by non buyers. Embarrassing. How would you even know? |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Dice on Feb 10, 2022 12:01:14 GMT 1, From a Heni mod on the discord discussion “There's a laminate above the giclee butterfly print which is then printed onto using a process called screen printing (in which ink or in our case glitter is pressed through a prepared screen of fine mesh material so as to create a picture or pattern)” The glitter is screen printed, then sealed, and isn’t going anywhere. The prints aren’t going to fall apart. Perhaps I'm being dim but I'm still not sure what that means. If the laminate has been screen-printed with glitter then surely that means the glitter is sitting on top of the laminate, i.e. the surface is going to the rough and textured. Or is the glitter on the inside surface of the laminate?
As he said, the glitter is screen printed then sealed
From a Heni mod on the discord discussion “There's a laminate above the giclee butterfly print which is then printed onto using a process called screen printing (in which ink or in our case glitter is pressed through a prepared screen of fine mesh material so as to create a picture or pattern)” The glitter is screen printed, then sealed, and isn’t going anywhere. The prints aren’t going to fall apart. Perhaps I'm being dim but I'm still not sure what that means. If the laminate has been screen-printed with glitter then surely that means the glitter is sitting on top of the laminate, i.e. the surface is going to the rough and textured. Or is the glitter on the inside surface of the laminate? As he said, the glitter is screen printed then sealed |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Majestic on Feb 10, 2022 12:08:50 GMT 1, The photo's don't lie, the glitter is clearly sat on top....it's even creeping over the edges.
What more proof do you need?
The photo's don't lie, the glitter is clearly sat on top....it's even creeping over the edges. What more proof do you need? |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by sevrin on Feb 10, 2022 12:17:03 GMT 1, As he said, the glitter is screen printed then sealed That's not what Heni said. That's what Charlie said.
This is a screenshot from my DM conversation with EthanT a moderator on the Heni Discord last night regarding the glitter question.
As he said, the glitter is screen printed then sealed That's not what Heni said. That's what Charlie said. This is a screenshot from my DM conversation with EthanT a moderator on the Heni Discord last night regarding the glitter question. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Londown 01 on Feb 10, 2022 12:27:33 GMT 1, Perhaps I'm being dim but I'm still not sure what that means. If the laminate has been screen-printed with glitter then surely that means the glitter is sitting on top of the laminate, i.e. the surface is going to the rough and textured. Or is the glitter on the inside surface of the laminate? As he said, the glitter is screen printed then sealed
This quote does not say that! It says that the layers are the following:
Giclee butterfly print
laminate
screen printed glitter
[end]
However in the screenshot above this "Ethan" (working for HENI?) claims that it is screen printed and then sealed.
I'm just curious as to what it is.
Perhaps I'm being dim but I'm still not sure what that means. If the laminate has been screen-printed with glitter then surely that means the glitter is sitting on top of the laminate, i.e. the surface is going to the rough and textured. Or is the glitter on the inside surface of the laminate? As he said, the glitter is screen printed then sealed This quote does not say that! It says that the layers are the following: Giclee butterfly print laminate screen printed glitter [end] However in the screenshot above this "Ethan" (working for HENI?) claims that it is screen printed and then sealed. I'm just curious as to what it is. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by artlife11 on Feb 10, 2022 12:43:34 GMT 1, As he said, the glitter is screen printed then sealed That's not what Heni said. That's what Charlie said.
So glad I didn’t buy Andy Warhol’s diamond disk Mickey now when it cam out
As he said, the glitter is screen printed then sealed That's not what Heni said. That's what Charlie said. So glad I didn’t buy Andy Warhol’s diamond disk Mickey now when it cam out |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by artlife11 on Feb 10, 2022 12:44:07 GMT 1, That's not what Heni said. That's what Charlie said. So glad I didn’t buy Andy Warhol’s diamond disk Mickey now when it cam out
Diamond dust
That's not what Heni said. That's what Charlie said. So glad I didn’t buy Andy Warhol’s diamond disk Mickey now when it cam out Diamond dust |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by raindawg on Feb 10, 2022 12:45:41 GMT 1, I got a quote yesterday for a box frame from Frame Factory (UK) Thanks for your enquiry. There are plenty of variables to consider that will affect the price of the framing [style/shape material of frame etc.] Aa an approximate guide you can expect to pay would be between £250 & £280 for the faming & mounting alone. [floated in a contemporary box frame]. The separate price for the glass is as follows [separate from the framing cost]. U.V. glass- £129.25. Museum glass- £584.92. I hope this is of some help.
This is really helpful - thanks
I got a quote yesterday for a box frame from Frame Factory (UK) Thanks for your enquiry. There are plenty of variables to consider that will affect the price of the framing [style/shape material of frame etc.] Aa an approximate guide you can expect to pay would be between £250 & £280 for the faming & mounting alone. [floated in a contemporary box frame]. The separate price for the glass is as follows [separate from the framing cost]. U.V. glass- £129.25. Museum glass- £584.92. I hope this is of some help. This is really helpful - thanks |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 10, 2022 12:52:04 GMT 1, It does look like the glitter has been applied over the laminate going by this photo. Seems strange, but I haven't seen them irl to give a proper opinion
It does look like the glitter has been applied over the laminate going by this photo. Seems strange, but I haven't seen them irl to give a proper opinion |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Happy Shopper on Feb 10, 2022 12:58:15 GMT 1, Glitter on top sounds good to me. I thought it might look a bit odd under the laminate anyway (might kill the glitter effect a bit.)
I'd frame these under low reflecting glass anyway (AR70 probably)... Don't want dust or lots of refections.
Glitter on top sounds good to me. I thought it might look a bit odd under the laminate anyway (might kill the glitter effect a bit.)
I'd frame these under low reflecting glass anyway (AR70 probably)... Don't want dust or lots of refections.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by klyde on Feb 10, 2022 12:59:43 GMT 1,
Some of you are talking as if its been made like a 4 year kids unicorn picture in pre school arts and crafts.
Its Damien Hirst FFS.
Some of you are talking as if its been made like a 4 year kids unicorn picture in pre school arts and crafts.
Its Damien Hirst FFS.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by sevrin on Feb 10, 2022 13:06:42 GMT 1, Some of you are talking as if its been made like a 4 year kids unicorn picture in pre school arts and crafts. Its Damien Hirst FFS.
Some of you are talking as if its been made like a 4 year kids unicorn picture in pre school arts and crafts. Its Damien Hirst FFS. Indeed, having seen them up close and personal, I can say they look incredibly well executed and absolutely stunning! |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Petrusino on Feb 10, 2022 13:10:31 GMT 1, I think it was first printed a layer containing the glitter and then a transparent layer with the butterflies that sealed the layer of the glitter. it doesn't seem that complicated to me
I think it was first printed a layer containing the glitter and then a transparent layer with the butterflies that sealed the layer of the glitter. it doesn't seem that complicated to me
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by sevrin on Feb 10, 2022 13:19:10 GMT 1, From a moderator on Heni Discord just now:
I've been told the glitter is screen printed onto the laminate and because of this there may be a negligible amount of glitter that falls off.
I've asked for more details on the glitters application so will be able to share some further insight soon 😄
From a moderator on Heni Discord just now:
I've been told the glitter is screen printed onto the laminate and because of this there may be a negligible amount of glitter that falls off.
I've asked for more details on the glitters application so will be able to share some further insight soon 😄
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by handy on Feb 10, 2022 13:25:18 GMT 1, Screen printing involves inks. The glitter ink, i would have thought, would contain a significan amount of trandpatent polymer/resin/binder. After the layer is dried, much of the glitter will be encapsulated jyst under the surface. Some areas perhaps the layer is thin or even some glitters protrude.
I have no idea of their process but I dojt imagine that the glitter layer is 100% glitter and therefore very unstable
Voilà
Screen printing involves inks. The glitter ink, i would have thought, would contain a significan amount of trandpatent polymer/resin/binder. After the layer is dried, much of the glitter will be encapsulated jyst under the surface. Some areas perhaps the layer is thin or even some glitters protrude.
I have no idea of their process but I dojt imagine that the glitter layer is 100% glitter and therefore very unstable
Voilà
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Londown 01 on Feb 10, 2022 13:25:40 GMT 1,
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by ajr on Feb 10, 2022 13:35:51 GMT 1, Its Heni and Damien Hirst. It will be quality. Take it easy.
Its Heni and Damien Hirst. It will be quality. Take it easy.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by woobl on Feb 10, 2022 13:51:24 GMT 1, Well I could have sworn when I saw them in the flesh they were under some sort of sealed layer. I got very close to them as well.
Well I could have sworn when I saw them in the flesh they were under some sort of sealed layer. I got very close to them as well.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by met on Feb 10, 2022 13:51:50 GMT 1, Uggh... regarding these new posts about the screen print glitter(diamond dust) being on top of the plexiglass surface instead of behind, as it was originally mentioned. If accurate, IMO, this printing process seems highly unstable on top of the plexiglass front. Seems possible that there could be many examples from the edition that end up with glitter flaking off. I am suddenly reminded of Vonnegut's character Rabo Karabekian who lost his fame and fortune after his paintings started falling apart. Boo. From a Heni mod on the discord discussion “There's a laminate above the giclee butterfly print which is then printed onto using a process called screen printing (in which ink or in our case glitter is pressed through a prepared screen of fine mesh material so as to create a picture or pattern)” The glitter is screen printed, then sealed, and isn’t going anywhere. The prints aren’t going to fall apart. Perhaps I'm being dim but I'm still not sure what that means. If the laminate has been screen-printed with glitter then surely that means the glitter is sitting on top of the laminate, i.e. the surface is going to the rough and textured. Or is the glitter on the inside surface of the laminate? As he said, the glitter is screen printed then sealed That's not what Heni said. That's what Charlie said.  This is a screenshot from my DM conversation with EthanT a moderator on the Heni Discord last night regarding the glitter question.
The photo's don't lie, the glitter is clearly sat on top....it's even creeping over the edges. What more proof do you need?  
1. I have no interest in The Empresses by Damien Hirst.
Because I find the art frankly dull. And not especially attractive.
It isn't work that engages me — whether intellectually, emotionally, or even decoratively.
2. That said, I've entered this thread because its content is clogging up the New Posts section of the forum.
3. The glitter description is very clear to me:
(i) laminate;
(ii) glitter screenprinted above the laminate; and
(iii) glitter sealed.
4. It seems much of the confusion relates to "sealed". Perhaps there aren't enough members who did arts and crafts at school.
5. Although "sealed" could mean more than one thing, with glitter it normally refers to the use of a sealing spray.
The glitter can still be felt afterwards, its texture is still there — but it's covered with a thin coat of adhesive or resin to make it less likely to flake away afterwards.
6. Do your research. Just Google "glitter seal" and check for yourselves. So that we can move on and chat about other subjects.
Uggh... regarding these new posts about the screen print glitter(diamond dust) being on top of the plexiglass surface instead of behind, as it was originally mentioned. If accurate, IMO, this printing process seems highly unstable on top of the plexiglass front. Seems possible that there could be many examples from the edition that end up with glitter flaking off. I am suddenly reminded of Vonnegut's character Rabo Karabekian who lost his fame and fortune after his paintings started falling apart. Boo. From a Heni mod on the discord discussion “There's a laminate above the giclee butterfly print which is then printed onto using a process called screen printing (in which ink or in our case glitter is pressed through a prepared screen of fine mesh material so as to create a picture or pattern)” The glitter is screen printed, then sealed, and isn’t going anywhere. The prints aren’t going to fall apart. Perhaps I'm being dim but I'm still not sure what that means. If the laminate has been screen-printed with glitter then surely that means the glitter is sitting on top of the laminate, i.e. the surface is going to the rough and textured. Or is the glitter on the inside surface of the laminate? As he said, the glitter is screen printed then sealed That's not what Heni said. That's what Charlie said. This is a screenshot from my DM conversation with EthanT a moderator on the Heni Discord last night regarding the glitter question. The photo's don't lie, the glitter is clearly sat on top....it's even creeping over the edges. What more proof do you need? I have no interest in The Empresses by Damien Hirst. Because I find the art frankly dull. And not especially attractive. It isn't work that engages me — whether intellectually, emotionally, or even decoratively. 2. That said, I've entered this thread because its content is clogging up the New Posts section of the forum. 3. The glitter description is very clear to me: (i) laminate; (ii) glitter screenprinted above the laminate; and (iii) glitter sealed. 4. It seems much of the confusion relates to "sealed". Perhaps there aren't enough members who did arts and crafts at school. 5. Although "sealed" could mean more than one thing, with glitter it normally refers to the use of a sealing spray. The glitter can still be felt afterwards, its texture is still there — but it's covered with a thin coat of adhesive or resin to make it less likely to flake away afterwards. 6. Do your research. Just Google "glitter seal" and check for yourselves. So that we can move on and chat about other subjects. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by teabaggins on Feb 10, 2022 14:34:44 GMT 1, 1. I have no interest in The Empresses by Damien Hirst. Because I find the art frankly dull. And not especially attractive. It isn't work that engages me — whether intellectually, emotionally, or even decoratively. 2. That said, I've entered this thread because its content is clogging up the New Posts section of the forum. 3. The glitter description is very clear to me: (i) laminate; (ii) glitter screenprinted above the laminate; and (iii) glitter sealed. 4. It seems much of the confusion relates to "sealed". Perhaps there aren't enough members who did arts and crafts at school. 5. Although "sealed" could mean more than one thing, with glitter it normally refers to the use of a sealing spray. The glitter can still be felt afterwards, its texture is still there — but it's covered with a thin coat of adhesive or resin to make it less likely to flake away afterwards. 6. Do your research. Just Google "glitter seal" and check for yourselves. So that we can move on and chat about other subjects. But, as far as I know, Heni have not confirmed that they have used "glitter seal" or anything similar on top of the glitter. They say the laminate has been screen printed with glitter but that's it. Everything else is just people's opinions.
From a Heni mod on the discord discussion
“The glitter is screen printed, then SEALED, and isn’t going anywhere. The prints aren’t going to fall apart. “
Maybe having this posted for the 3rd time will make people read it. I somehow doubt it though…
1. I have no interest in The Empresses by Damien Hirst. Because I find the art frankly dull. And not especially attractive. It isn't work that engages me — whether intellectually, emotionally, or even decoratively. 2. That said, I've entered this thread because its content is clogging up the New Posts section of the forum. 3. The glitter description is very clear to me: (i) laminate; (ii) glitter screenprinted above the laminate; and (iii) glitter sealed. 4. It seems much of the confusion relates to "sealed". Perhaps there aren't enough members who did arts and crafts at school. 5. Although "sealed" could mean more than one thing, with glitter it normally refers to the use of a sealing spray. The glitter can still be felt afterwards, its texture is still there — but it's covered with a thin coat of adhesive or resin to make it less likely to flake away afterwards. 6. Do your research. Just Google "glitter seal" and check for yourselves. So that we can move on and chat about other subjects. But, as far as I know, Heni have not confirmed that they have used "glitter seal" or anything similar on top of the glitter. They say the laminate has been screen printed with glitter but that's it. Everything else is just people's opinions. From a Heni mod on the discord discussion “The glitter is screen printed, then SEALED, and isn’t going anywhere. The prints aren’t going to fall apart. “ Maybe having this posted for the 3rd time will make people read it. I somehow doubt it though… |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Universal Dav on Feb 10, 2022 14:48:41 GMT 1, Only people worried about this glitter layer will be those that didn’t buy, looking for any possible issue to justify missing out.
Only people worried about this glitter layer will be those that didn’t buy, looking for any possible issue to justify missing out.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by met on Feb 10, 2022 14:59:28 GMT 1, 1. I have no interest in The Empresses by Damien Hirst. Because I find the art frankly dull. And not especially attractive. It isn't work that engages me — whether intellectually, emotionally, or even decoratively. 2. That said, I've entered this thread because its content is clogging up the New Posts section of the forum. 3. The glitter description is very clear to me: (i) laminate; (ii) glitter screenprinted above the laminate; and (iii) glitter sealed. 4. It seems much of the confusion relates to "sealed". Perhaps there aren't enough members who did arts and crafts at school. 5. Although "sealed" could mean more than one thing, with glitter it normally refers to the use of a sealing spray. The glitter can still be felt afterwards, its texture is still there — but it's covered with a thin coat of adhesive or resin to make it less likely to flake away afterwards. 6. Do your research. Just Google "glitter seal" and check for yourselves. So that we can move on and chat about other subjects. [...] But, as far as I know, Heni have not confirmed that they have used "glitter seal" or anything similar on top of the glitter. They say the laminate has been screen printed with glitter but that's it. Everything else is just people's opinions.
For argument's sake, let us assume we don't know. That we haven't got a clue about whether or not the glitter has actually been sealed.
What the photographic evidence does show is that the surface has a texture prone to snagging dusting cloths.
And so, how much of a difference would it make in practice to an owner-collector if the glitter were sealed or unsealed?
Either way, the artwork, if hung as it is and unwisely left unglazed, will become a dust magnet — and difficult if not a nightmare to clean.
1. I have no interest in The Empresses by Damien Hirst. Because I find the art frankly dull. And not especially attractive. It isn't work that engages me — whether intellectually, emotionally, or even decoratively. 2. That said, I've entered this thread because its content is clogging up the New Posts section of the forum. 3. The glitter description is very clear to me: (i) laminate; (ii) glitter screenprinted above the laminate; and (iii) glitter sealed. 4. It seems much of the confusion relates to "sealed". Perhaps there aren't enough members who did arts and crafts at school. 5. Although "sealed" could mean more than one thing, with glitter it normally refers to the use of a sealing spray. The glitter can still be felt afterwards, its texture is still there — but it's covered with a thin coat of adhesive or resin to make it less likely to flake away afterwards. 6. Do your research. Just Google "glitter seal" and check for yourselves. So that we can move on and chat about other subjects. [...] But, as far as I know, Heni have not confirmed that they have used "glitter seal" or anything similar on top of the glitter. They say the laminate has been screen printed with glitter but that's it. Everything else is just people's opinions. For argument's sake, let us assume we don't know. That we haven't got a clue about whether or not the glitter has actually been sealed. What the photographic evidence does show is that the surface has a texture prone to snagging dusting cloths. And so, how much of a difference would it make in practice to an owner-collector if the glitter were sealed or unsealed? Either way, the artwork, if hung as it is and unwisely left unglazed, will become a dust magnet — and difficult if not a nightmare to clean. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Icesay on Feb 10, 2022 15:00:45 GMT 1, Only people worried about this glitter layer will be those that didn’t buy, looking for any possible issue to justify missing out.
Rubbish....no-one missed out as was available for a week! Personqlly I could have purchased a set but it bothers me how they are finished. I don't want dust and hair sticking to them and see no good reason to frame a print of this type.
Only people worried about this glitter layer will be those that didn’t buy, looking for any possible issue to justify missing out. Rubbish....no-one missed out as was available for a week! Personqlly I could have purchased a set but it bothers me how they are finished. I don't want dust and hair sticking to them and see no good reason to frame a print of this type. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Icesay on Feb 10, 2022 15:02:21 GMT 1, I didn't buy any in the end because it looked like glitter was external. If you read the thread I previously asked if glitter was sealed in and was told it was, turns out not. It's very interesting that you chose to ask that question. In an alternative reality there is someone with ulterior motives. I can't inquire about a post that you made? What's even more interesting is that you would post "for sale" considering you don't have one to sell.
Um, I didn't post for sale #factcheck.
I didn't buy any in the end because it looked like glitter was external. If you read the thread I previously asked if glitter was sealed in and was told it was, turns out not. It's very interesting that you chose to ask that question. In an alternative reality there is someone with ulterior motives. I can't inquire about a post that you made? What's even more interesting is that you would post "for sale" considering you don't have one to sell. Um, I didn't post for sale #factcheck. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 10, 2022 15:10:46 GMT 1, After reading this thread, all I can think of is thank fuck POW shelved the idea of releasing Glitter Gorilla😉
After reading this thread, all I can think of is thank fuck POW shelved the idea of releasing Glitter Gorilla😉
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