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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by met on Feb 10, 2022 15:21:04 GMT 1, For argument's sake, let us assume we don't know. That we haven't got a clue about whether or not the glitter has actually been sealed. What the photographic evidence does show is that the surface has a texture prone to snagging dusting cloths. And so, how much of a difference would it make in practice to an owner-collector if the glitter were sealed or unsealed? Either way, the artwork, if hung as it is and unwisely left unglazed, will become a dust magnet — and difficult if not a nightmare to clean. Quote: "how much of a difference would it make in practice to an owner-collector if the glitter were sealed or unsealed?" The difference is ****ing huge! One will be a nightmare for dust and fluff. The other will not.
If what a buyer ends up receiving is the same as or similar to the piece in the photos below, for me it already does look like a cleaning nightmare — whether or not the glitter on that piece happens to be sealed.
Hence why I believe it would be unwise to hang it without a separate frame and glazing.
For argument's sake, let us assume we don't know. That we haven't got a clue about whether or not the glitter has actually been sealed. What the photographic evidence does show is that the surface has a texture prone to snagging dusting cloths. And so, how much of a difference would it make in practice to an owner-collector if the glitter were sealed or unsealed? Either way, the artwork, if hung as it is and unwisely left unglazed, will become a dust magnet — and difficult if not a nightmare to clean. Quote: "how much of a difference would it make in practice to an owner-collector if the glitter were sealed or unsealed?" The difference is ****ing huge! One will be a nightmare for dust and fluff. The other will not. If what a buyer ends up receiving is the same as or similar to the piece in the photos below, for me it already does look like a cleaning nightmare — whether or not the glitter on that piece happens to be sealed. Hence why I believe it would be unwise to hang it without a separate frame and glazing. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by klyde on Feb 10, 2022 15:23:00 GMT 1,
Buyers, just frame the fucking thing behind glass.
It cost over 3 grand.
A couple of hundred to have it professionally framed and protected from dust or some idiot sneezing on it really shouldn't be an issue for you.
Non buyers, relax. You didn't buy it!
Buyers, just frame the fucking thing behind glass.
It cost over 3 grand.
A couple of hundred to have it professionally framed and protected from dust or some idiot sneezing on it really shouldn't be an issue for you.
Non buyers, relax. You didn't buy it!
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by teabaggins on Feb 10, 2022 15:31:17 GMT 1, Nevermind the physical piece. How about on the NFT deed. Will the glitter still flake off?
Nevermind the physical piece. How about on the NFT deed. Will the glitter still flake off?
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Deleted on Feb 10, 2022 15:32:09 GMT 1, Nevermind the physical piece. How about on the NFT deed. Will the glitter still flake off?
I think it wil depend on how many times it is traded
Nevermind the physical piece. How about on the NFT deed. Will the glitter still flake off? I think it wil depend on how many times it is traded |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by artlife11 on Feb 10, 2022 15:51:49 GMT 1, Nevermind the physical piece. How about on the NFT deed. Will the glitter still flake off? I think it wil depend on how many times it is traded
The glitter has come of my name on my credit card where I used it so much buying these last week
Nevermind the physical piece. How about on the NFT deed. Will the glitter still flake off? I think it wil depend on how many times it is traded The glitter has come of my name on my credit card where I used it so much buying these last week |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by skenart on Feb 10, 2022 16:11:12 GMT 1, A glitter sketch I wrote way back if you’re in the mood.
A glitter sketch I wrote way back if you’re in the mood.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by sevrin on Feb 10, 2022 16:14:40 GMT 1, Buyers, just frame the fucking thing behind glass. It cost over 3 grand. A couple of hundred to have it professionally framed and protected from dust or some idiot sneezing on it really shouldn't be an issue for you. Non buyers, relax. You didn't buy it!
Buyers, just frame the fucking thing behind glass. It cost over 3 grand. A couple of hundred to have it professionally framed and protected from dust or some idiot sneezing on it really shouldn't be an issue for you. Non buyers, relax. You didn't buy it! Indeed, I wouldn't dream of hanging a piece on the wall like this unless framed behind glass for protection, glitter or no glitter. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by wave100 on Feb 10, 2022 16:15:08 GMT 1, I can't inquire about a post that you made? What's even more interesting is that you would post "for sale" considering you don't have one to sell. Um, I didn't post for sale #factcheck.
#factchecked
I can't inquire about a post that you made? What's even more interesting is that you would post "for sale" considering you don't have one to sell. Um, I didn't post for sale #factcheck. Per your post from yesterday, "For Sale....I asked if glitter was sealed in and someone said it was. Crap." #factchecked |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by wave100 on Feb 10, 2022 16:16:54 GMT 1, Buyers, just frame the fucking thing behind glass. It cost over 3 grand. A couple of hundred to have it professionally framed and protected from dust or some idiot sneezing on it really shouldn't be an issue for you. Non buyers, relax. You didn't buy it! Indeed, I wouldn't dream of hanging a piece on the wall like this unless framed behind glass for protection, glitter or no glitter.
Buyers, just frame the fucking thing behind glass. It cost over 3 grand. A couple of hundred to have it professionally framed and protected from dust or some idiot sneezing on it really shouldn't be an issue for you. Non buyers, relax. You didn't buy it! Indeed, I wouldn't dream of hanging a piece on the wall like this unless framed behind glass for protection, glitter or no glitter. Framing these is definitely the way to go. I feel the same about The Virtues. Some examples I've seen look great. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Fluffy Pillow on Feb 10, 2022 16:19:06 GMT 1, Screen printing involves inks. The glitter ink, i would have thought, would contain a significan amount of trandpatent polymer/resin/binder. After the layer is dried, much of the glitter will be encapsulated jyst under the surface. Some areas perhaps the layer is thin or even some glitters protrude. I have no idea of their process but I dojt imagine that the glitter layer is 100% glitter and therefore very unstable Voilà
My thoughts follow this line of thinking (even with the spelling errors..) ~15,000 equals a massive quantity of time, space, supplies. The amount of profit estimated has to also include the factors of a team. It would be very possible that the process has variations of sealing thickness and may also depend on the print run.. meaning varying levels of process change during the manufacturing that can't be all done in one session. Maybe why some photos appear sealed more than others. It possibly may even be even graded and sorted by great, good, bad. Signed by artist is a plus but by this thread no one cares what print number they receive. Not sure if a set equals matching numbers. Some will not be claimed, ever, so hold back the worst grades. No one would have to know as they'll be living on the moon and/or still hunting the next art.
Screen printing involves inks. The glitter ink, i would have thought, would contain a significan amount of trandpatent polymer/resin/binder. After the layer is dried, much of the glitter will be encapsulated jyst under the surface. Some areas perhaps the layer is thin or even some glitters protrude. I have no idea of their process but I dojt imagine that the glitter layer is 100% glitter and therefore very unstable Voilà My thoughts follow this line of thinking (even with the spelling errors..) ~15,000 equals a massive quantity of time, space, supplies. The amount of profit estimated has to also include the factors of a team. It would be very possible that the process has variations of sealing thickness and may also depend on the print run.. meaning varying levels of process change during the manufacturing that can't be all done in one session. Maybe why some photos appear sealed more than others. It possibly may even be even graded and sorted by great, good, bad. Signed by artist is a plus but by this thread no one cares what print number they receive. Not sure if a set equals matching numbers. Some will not be claimed, ever, so hold back the worst grades. No one would have to know as they'll be living on the moon and/or still hunting the next art. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Horatio Nelson on Feb 10, 2022 16:52:15 GMT 1, 40 pages and the physicals haven’t yet shipped/NFTs been dropped into people’s wallets.
Whatever people may think about the supply and any other aspects of the work, there is clearly demand/interest in this Hirst chap and his works.
40 pages and the physicals haven’t yet shipped/NFTs been dropped into people’s wallets.
Whatever people may think about the supply and any other aspects of the work, there is clearly demand/interest in this Hirst chap and his works.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Charlie Bronson on Feb 10, 2022 16:55:12 GMT 1, I’m assuming it’s similar to the process used on the Glitter Shitter. If a factory in China can seal glitter and not have it fall off after tons of ass has sat upon it, I’m sure Heni can make a print with glitter that won’t fall apart/shed glitter.
I’m assuming it’s similar to the process used on the Glitter Shitter. If a factory in China can seal glitter and not have it fall off after tons of ass has sat upon it, I’m sure Heni can make a print with glitter that won’t fall apart/shed glitter. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Deleted on Feb 10, 2022 17:00:10 GMT 1, I’m assuming it’s similar to the process used on the Glitter Shitter. If a factory in China can seal glitter and not have it fall off after tons of ass has sat upon it, I’m sure Heni can make a print with glitter that won’t fall apart/shed glitter.
That's my loo!!
I'll be home in 5, You'd better not be there
I’m assuming it’s similar to the process used on the Glitter Shitter. If a factory in China can seal glitter and not have it fall off after tons of ass has sat upon it, I’m sure Heni can make a print with glitter that won’t fall apart/shed glitter. That's my loo!! I'll be home in 5, You'd better not be there |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by handy on Feb 10, 2022 17:01:21 GMT 1, Screen printing involves inks. The glitter ink, i would have thought, would contain a significan amount of trandpatent polymer/resin/binder. After the layer is dried, much of the glitter will be encapsulated jyst under the surface. Some areas perhaps the layer is thin or even some glitters protrude. I have no idea of their process but I dojt imagine that the glitter layer is 100% glitter and therefore very unstable Voilà My thoughts follow this line of thinking (even with the spelling errors..) ~15,000 equals a massive quantity of time, space, supplies. The amount of profit estimated has to also include the factors of a team. It would be very possible that the process has variations of sealing thickness and may also depend on the print run.. meaning varying levels of process change during the manufacturing that can't be all done in one session. Maybe why some photos appear sealed more than others. It possibly may even be even graded and sorted by great, good, bad. Signed by artist is a plus but by this thread no one cares what print number they receive. Not sure if a set equals matching numbers. Some will not be claimed, ever, so hold back the worst grades. No one would have to know as they'll be living on the moon and/or still hunting the next art.
Anyway...back to the glitter
Screen printing involves inks. The glitter ink, i would have thought, would contain a significan amount of trandpatent polymer/resin/binder. After the layer is dried, much of the glitter will be encapsulated jyst under the surface. Some areas perhaps the layer is thin or even some glitters protrude. I have no idea of their process but I dojt imagine that the glitter layer is 100% glitter and therefore very unstable Voilà My thoughts follow this line of thinking (even with the spelling errors..) ~15,000 equals a massive quantity of time, space, supplies. The amount of profit estimated has to also include the factors of a team. It would be very possible that the process has variations of sealing thickness and may also depend on the print run.. meaning varying levels of process change during the manufacturing that can't be all done in one session. Maybe why some photos appear sealed more than others. It possibly may even be even graded and sorted by great, good, bad. Signed by artist is a plus but by this thread no one cares what print number they receive. Not sure if a set equals matching numbers. Some will not be claimed, ever, so hold back the worst grades. No one would have to know as they'll be living on the moon and/or still hunting the next art. Apologies for the spelling errors (fat fingers on mobile phone combined with french autocorrect) Anyway...back to the glitter |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by handy on Feb 10, 2022 17:02:38 GMT 1, I’m assuming it’s similar to the process used on the Glitter Shitter. If a factory in China can seal glitter and not have it fall off after tons of ass has sat upon it, I’m sure Heni can make a print with glitter that won’t fall apart/shed glitter. That's my loo!! I'll be home in 5, You'd better not be there
I’m assuming it’s similar to the process used on the Glitter Shitter. If a factory in China can seal glitter and not have it fall off after tons of ass has sat upon it, I’m sure Heni can make a print with glitter that won’t fall apart/shed glitter. That's my loo!! I'll be home in 5, You'd better not be there If you zoom in real close you can identify some tissue fibres, what a pain in the arse ! |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by JD on Feb 10, 2022 17:16:53 GMT 1, Can we stop taking about glitter and get back to how much they are worth 🤣🤣🤣
Can we stop taking about glitter and get back to how much they are worth 🤣🤣🤣
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by rungsp on Feb 10, 2022 17:19:11 GMT 1, I have just incorporated a new company selling glitter dusting technology... I'll post again when the website is up and running.
The high-tech equipment will be available at £99.99 each... surely a modest sum after spending £3,500?
There is no practical limit to the number I can supply....B&Q are open 7days a week and I've never seen them sold out of paintbrushes.
Just use a clean paintbrush!
Nice and gentle, won't ever get snagged.
I have just incorporated a new company selling glitter dusting technology... I'll post again when the website is up and running.
The high-tech equipment will be available at £99.99 each... surely a modest sum after spending £3,500?
There is no practical limit to the number I can supply....B&Q are open 7days a week and I've never seen them sold out of paintbrushes.
Just use a clean paintbrush!
Nice and gentle, won't ever get snagged.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Icesay on Feb 10, 2022 17:47:51 GMT 1, Um, I didn't post for sale #factcheck. Per your post from yesterday, "For Sale....I asked if glitter was sealed in and someone said it was. Crap." #factchecked
My bad, that's auto-correct for you. I did also say I hadn't purchased.
Um, I didn't post for sale #factcheck. Per your post from yesterday, "For Sale....I asked if glitter was sealed in and someone said it was. Crap." #factchecked My bad, that's auto-correct for you. I did also say I hadn't purchased. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by samo on Feb 10, 2022 18:04:39 GMT 1, Can we stop taking about glitter and get back to how much they are worth 🤣🤣🤣 
Can we stop taking about glitter and get back to how much they are worth 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Richy Rich on Feb 10, 2022 18:16:40 GMT 1, 41 pages of glitter and not one reference to wanting to be in my gang. Massively disappointed in all of you.
41 pages of glitter and not one reference to wanting to be in my gang. Massively disappointed in all of you.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by met on Feb 10, 2022 18:17:13 GMT 1, Buyers, just frame the fucking thing behind glass. It cost over 3 grand. A couple of hundred to have it professionally framed and protected from dust or some idiot sneezing on it really shouldn't be an issue for you. Non buyers, relax. You didn't buy it! Indeed, I wouldn't dream of hanging a piece on the wall like this unless framed behind glass for protection, glitter or no glitter. You are, of course, free to frame them if you wish. But it is standard practice NOT to frame dibond prints. Look at the Heni exhibition; all not framed. Also Tate Modern has a dibond by Richter; again, not framed.
It is important to compare like for like.
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To the extent there may be any glitter-coated or other textured-surface prints in Tate's collection, they will certainly be protected by glazing.
Regarding the Heni exhibition, keep in mind the specific circumstances and objectives. For Heni, this was about marketing. Selling. And therefore about presenting the prints in the most attractive light.
So of course that meant without glazing. Because glazing would not only distract the viewer's eye, it would diminish the impact of a key part of the artwork's appeal — i.e. its textured surface, and the contrast between matt and shiny.
Heni did not need to give serious thought to the protection of its exhibition prints, because those ones were never intended to stay up long-term.
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If looking at this from the perspective of standard practice, consider what an experienced and informed collector or institution would do with a diamond dust print.
It really would surprise me if any of them framed such a print without protective glazing.
Buyers, just frame the fucking thing behind glass. It cost over 3 grand. A couple of hundred to have it professionally framed and protected from dust or some idiot sneezing on it really shouldn't be an issue for you. Non buyers, relax. You didn't buy it! Indeed, I wouldn't dream of hanging a piece on the wall like this unless framed behind glass for protection, glitter or no glitter. You are, of course, free to frame them if you wish. But it is standard practice NOT to frame dibond prints. Look at the Heni exhibition; all not framed. Also Tate Modern has a dibond by Richter; again, not framed. It is important to compare like for like. __________ To the extent there may be any glitter-coated or other textured-surface prints in Tate's collection, they will certainly be protected by glazing. Regarding the Heni exhibition, keep in mind the specific circumstances and objectives. For Heni, this was about marketing. Selling. And therefore about presenting the prints in the most attractive light. So of course that meant without glazing. Because glazing would not only distract the viewer's eye, it would diminish the impact of a key part of the artwork's appeal — i.e. its textured surface, and the contrast between matt and shiny. Heni did not need to give serious thought to the protection of its exhibition prints, because those ones were never intended to stay up long-term. __________ If looking at this from the perspective of standard practice, consider what an experienced and informed collector or institution would do with a diamond dust print. It really would surprise me if any of them framed such a print without protective glazing. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by New Wave Dave on Feb 10, 2022 18:29:24 GMT 1, A glitter sketch I wrote way back if you’re in the mood. Hyperventilating... cannot cope with the punchline... and it is real actual existing glitter... 🤮
A glitter sketch I wrote way back if you’re in the mood. Hyperventilating... cannot cope with the punchline... and it is real actual existing glitter... 🤮 Fun fact: actor brought his own home-made glitter. Seems its a side hustle of his. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Foolsgold on Feb 10, 2022 18:50:42 GMT 1, Can we stop taking about glitter and get back to how much they are worth 🤣🤣🤣
Then again...Maybe not.
Can we stop taking about glitter and get back to how much they are worth 🤣🤣🤣 Then again...Maybe not. |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Londown 01 on Feb 10, 2022 19:23:21 GMT 1, ________________________________________________________________________________
All of you whining about too much glitter talk: you are free to introduce a new subject / aspect about the Empresses and take the thread into a new direction.
Only, why haven't you done so already?
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All of you whining about too much glitter talk: you are free to introduce a new subject / aspect about the Empresses and take the thread into a new direction.
Only, why haven't you done so already?
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Lord Lucas Roham on Feb 10, 2022 19:28:20 GMT 1, How much do you think these cost to create?
How much do you think these cost to create?
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by MattWolf on Feb 10, 2022 19:31:33 GMT 1, How much do you think these cost to create?
Oh and the paper for it too...
How much do you think these cost to create? When was the last time you bought ink for your printer at home? Oh and the paper for it too... |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Deleted on Feb 10, 2022 19:36:02 GMT 1, ________________________________________________________________________________ All of you whining about too much glitter talk: you are free to introduce a new subject / aspect about the Empresses and take the thread into a new direction. Only, why haven't you done so already?
Good point
I had a look at some online frames
i was looking at this one
www.frames.co.uk/picture-frame/ab11aa11d2832p
They do non reflective which brings the price in at £226
Not sure how I would attach the pic to the frame.
Might get a small frame that fits something I have to see if the non reflective is any good or if its just a translucent acrylic
and no idea how I would attach the pic to the frame. The Hirsts are pretty weighty, if i had to guess, i would say around 5kg
I think there is a good business opportunity here for a bespoke frame for these, probably sell a few 100 of them?
Has anyone tried no reflective acrylic before? will it look crap, i think it will?
________________________________________________________________________________ All of you whining about too much glitter talk: you are free to introduce a new subject / aspect about the Empresses and take the thread into a new direction. Only, why haven't you done so already? Good point I had a look at some online frames i was looking at this one www.frames.co.uk/picture-frame/ab11aa11d2832pThey do non reflective which brings the price in at £226 Not sure how I would attach the pic to the frame. Might get a small frame that fits something I have to see if the non reflective is any good or if its just a translucent acrylic and no idea how I would attach the pic to the frame. The Hirsts are pretty weighty, if i had to guess, i would say around 5kg I think there is a good business opportunity here for a bespoke frame for these, probably sell a few 100 of them? Has anyone tried no reflective acrylic before? will it look crap, i think it will? |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by sevrin on Feb 10, 2022 21:28:40 GMT 1,
Here are a couple of mock ups for frames, my personal favourite is black frame, white float mount, I think it really makes the print stand out.
I think my choice will be:
25mm black box frame
75mm white float mount
AR glass
Here are a couple of mock ups for frames, my personal favourite is black frame, white float mount, I think it really makes the print stand out. I think my choice will be: 25mm black box frame 75mm white float mount AR glass |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Deleted on Feb 10, 2022 21:38:02 GMT 1, Here are a couple of mock ups for frames, my personal favourite is black frame, white float mount, I think it really makes the print stand out.
Nice, not sure i would have the gap so big, i was thinking about 5mm all around
Here are a couple of mock ups for frames, my personal favourite is black frame, white float mount, I think it really makes the print stand out. Nice, not sure i would have the gap so big, i was thinking about 5mm all around |
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by kennaway on Feb 10, 2022 21:44:59 GMT 1, Here are a couple of mock ups for frames, my personal favourite is black frame, white float mount, I think it really makes the print stand out. Nice, not sure i would have the gap so big, i was thinking about 5mm all around
Really disagree with the white border
Straight black frame to red or leave unframed
Here are a couple of mock ups for frames, my personal favourite is black frame, white float mount, I think it really makes the print stand out. Nice, not sure i would have the gap so big, i was thinking about 5mm all around Really disagree with the white border Straight black frame to red or leave unframed |
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