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Art as an investment , by ca on Aug 25, 2020 3:12:45 GMT 1, AMD
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Art as an investment , by cest on Aug 25, 2020 3:13:57 GMT 1,
Meh , wait for a pullback on that and nvidia
Meh , wait for a pullback on that and nvidia
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Art as an investment , by Express Post on Aug 25, 2020 4:24:38 GMT 1, Gold Thierry Noir canvasses and silver kaws holiday space companions.
Gold Thierry Noir canvasses and silver kaws holiday space companions.
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Art as an investment , by cest on Aug 25, 2020 4:33:58 GMT 1, Gold Thierry Noir canvasses and silver kaws holiday space companions.
Not
Gold Thierry Noir canvasses and silver kaws holiday space companions. Not
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Art as an investment , by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Aug 25, 2020 7:26:24 GMT 1, Meh , wait for a pullback on that and nvidia
Scottish Mortgage investment trust, that way you get a bit of tesla, amazon, alphabet etc. But spread the risk.
Meh , wait for a pullback on that and nvidia Scottish Mortgage investment trust, that way you get a bit of tesla, amazon, alphabet etc. But spread the risk.
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Art as an investment , by sandinista on Aug 25, 2020 12:46:08 GMT 1, Mr Doodle first out of your head? All aboard the hype train. Next stop Bubble town.
Mr Doodle first out of your head? All aboard the hype train. Next stop Bubble town.
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Art as an investment , by chuckle on Aug 25, 2020 13:09:43 GMT 1, Happy to put together a Mr Doodle and Noir starter pack for ยฃ10k. That should set you off on the right track...
Happy to put together a Mr Doodle and Noir starter pack for ยฃ10k. That should set you off on the right track...
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Art as an investment , by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 14:43:30 GMT 1, Stender. He's going places. once lockdown is over.
Stender. He's going places. once lockdown is over.
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Art as an investment , by dullahmo on Feb 16, 2022 22:55:09 GMT 1, Noobie here.
I'm interested in collecting art that I not only love but is a good investment that I can return for a profit to buy even more art in the future.
I originally thought this was only for the elite of the elite that had millions to spend. But jheeez was I wrong.
I wanted to ask those out there who buy their pieces of art not only to collect and admire but also as a form of capital appreciation. What factors make you consider a piece of art that you like? Is there anything in particular you look at to consider it as an investment? Any must haves or complete turn offs?
Noobie here.
I'm interested in collecting art that I not only love but is a good investment that I can return for a profit to buy even more art in the future.
I originally thought this was only for the elite of the elite that had millions to spend. But jheeez was I wrong.
I wanted to ask those out there who buy their pieces of art not only to collect and admire but also as a form of capital appreciation. What factors make you consider a piece of art that you like? Is there anything in particular you look at to consider it as an investment? Any must haves or complete turn offs?
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Art as an investment , by Acme Thunderer on Feb 16, 2022 23:36:13 GMT 1, Noobie here. I'm interested in collecting art that I not only love but is a good investment that I can return for a profit to buy even more art in the future. I originally thought this was only for the elite of the elite that had millions to spend. But jheeez was I wrong. I wanted to ask those out there who buy their pieces of art not only to collect and admire but also as a form of capital appreciation. What factors make you consider a piece of art that you like? Is there anything in particular you look at to consider it as an investment? Any must haves or complete turn offs?
As well as the usual โonly buy what you likeโฆโ
The most important thing for me now is to only buy art that looks right โin situโ. I have a clear idea of what will look right in each room so am patient to secure the right piece. It will then stay on the wall for a very long time and be a long term investment.
It does help to have good taste (and develop your own taste) and somehow choose what will be desirable in the future.
Noobie here. I'm interested in collecting art that I not only love but is a good investment that I can return for a profit to buy even more art in the future. I originally thought this was only for the elite of the elite that had millions to spend. But jheeez was I wrong. I wanted to ask those out there who buy their pieces of art not only to collect and admire but also as a form of capital appreciation. What factors make you consider a piece of art that you like? Is there anything in particular you look at to consider it as an investment? Any must haves or complete turn offs? As well as the usual โonly buy what you likeโฆโ The most important thing for me now is to only buy art that looks right โin situโ. I have a clear idea of what will look right in each room so am patient to secure the right piece. It will then stay on the wall for a very long time and be a long term investment. It does help to have good taste (and develop your own taste) and somehow choose what will be desirable in the future.
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Art as an investment , by wrigs on Feb 16, 2022 23:44:44 GMT 1, Itโs luck of the draw unless you have a few quid and can afford those artists that have been selected for greatness by the galleries and promoted heavily. Even then itโs not a given as artists can fall out of favour. For every artist that goes onto great success there are hundreds of others that donโt so buying bottom end is pot luck.
Itโs luck of the draw unless you have a few quid and can afford those artists that have been selected for greatness by the galleries and promoted heavily. Even then itโs not a given as artists can fall out of favour. For every artist that goes onto great success there are hundreds of others that donโt so buying bottom end is pot luck.
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Art as an investment , by dullahmo on Feb 16, 2022 23:53:51 GMT 1, Noobie here. I'm interested in collecting art that I not only love but is a good investment that I can return for a profit to buy even more art in the future. I originally thought this was only for the elite of the elite that had millions to spend. But jheeez was I wrong. I wanted to ask those out there who buy their pieces of art not only to collect and admire but also as a form of capital appreciation. What factors make you consider a piece of art that you like? Is there anything in particular you look at to consider it as an investment? Any must haves or complete turn offs? As well as the usual โonly buy what you likeโฆโ The most important thing for me now is to only buy art that looks right โin situโ. I have a clear idea of what will look right in each room so am patient to secure the right piece. It will then stay on the wall for a very long time and be a long term investment. It does help to have good taste (and develop your own taste) and somehow choose what will be desirable in the future. This is really good advice, thank you!
I have so far spontaneously buying art even if it doesnt really suit my current flat or aesthetic. I`ve kept some of these pieces in my art portfolio but it only means that i`m desperate to get rid of them. Which is bad on my part.
I definitely need to be more patient and wait for the right piece to come through.
Choosing what will be desirable in the future, will be a difficult task I guess.
Noobie here. I'm interested in collecting art that I not only love but is a good investment that I can return for a profit to buy even more art in the future. I originally thought this was only for the elite of the elite that had millions to spend. But jheeez was I wrong. I wanted to ask those out there who buy their pieces of art not only to collect and admire but also as a form of capital appreciation. What factors make you consider a piece of art that you like? Is there anything in particular you look at to consider it as an investment? Any must haves or complete turn offs? As well as the usual โonly buy what you likeโฆโ The most important thing for me now is to only buy art that looks right โin situโ. I have a clear idea of what will look right in each room so am patient to secure the right piece. It will then stay on the wall for a very long time and be a long term investment. It does help to have good taste (and develop your own taste) and somehow choose what will be desirable in the future. This is really good advice, thank you! I have so far spontaneously buying art even if it doesnt really suit my current flat or aesthetic. I`ve kept some of these pieces in my art portfolio but it only means that i`m desperate to get rid of them. Which is bad on my part. I definitely need to be more patient and wait for the right piece to come through. Choosing what will be desirable in the future, will be a difficult task I guess.
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Art as an investment , by dullahmo on Feb 16, 2022 23:56:48 GMT 1, Itโs luck of the draw unless you have a few quid and can afford those artists that have been selected for greatness by the galleries and promoted heavily. Even then itโs not a given as artists can fall out of favour. For every artist that goes onto great success there are hundreds of others that donโt so buying bottom end is pot luck. Thank you for the advice!
Apart from buying only what I love to look at. I do try to make sure it`s from an artist with a good track record, good following, represented in galleries to some extent or another etc.
Is there anything you`ve noticed with artists and galleries that helps you?
Recently it seems as though Daniel Arsham is really heavily promoted and "selected for greatness" but I really don`t like a lot of his work. It just seems like copy and paste everytime! Wheras the likes of Hideaki Kawashima has a much lower following / promotion but I really really love his work.
Itโs luck of the draw unless you have a few quid and can afford those artists that have been selected for greatness by the galleries and promoted heavily. Even then itโs not a given as artists can fall out of favour. For every artist that goes onto great success there are hundreds of others that donโt so buying bottom end is pot luck. Thank you for the advice! Apart from buying only what I love to look at. I do try to make sure it`s from an artist with a good track record, good following, represented in galleries to some extent or another etc. Is there anything you`ve noticed with artists and galleries that helps you? Recently it seems as though Daniel Arsham is really heavily promoted and "selected for greatness" but I really don`t like a lot of his work. It just seems like copy and paste everytime! Wheras the likes of Hideaki Kawashima has a much lower following / promotion but I really really love his work.
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Art as an investment , by Jaylove on Feb 17, 2022 6:39:41 GMT 1, Buy what you like. Chasing the hottest new artist is not fun. A lot of this is luck because artists are pumped by the select few these days. Any art that I have that is highly valued is art I liked and just so happened to get lucky that the artist took off. In many cases the art sat and sat and sat and all it took was an event and some hype and now that art is all gone.
I'm not trying to make a small fortune off of a hobby. I can do that with my day job and real estate.
Buy what you like. Chasing the hottest new artist is not fun. A lot of this is luck because artists are pumped by the select few these days. Any art that I have that is highly valued is art I liked and just so happened to get lucky that the artist took off. In many cases the art sat and sat and sat and all it took was an event and some hype and now that art is all gone.
I'm not trying to make a small fortune off of a hobby. I can do that with my day job and real estate.
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Art as an investment , by Deleted on Feb 17, 2022 7:38:52 GMT 1, Save up, buy a blue chip. Hockney , Hirst, Banksy.
Donโt spend all your time trying to find the next Banksy, just buy a Banksy. Many entry level pieces for all blue chip artists.
Save up, buy a blue chip. Hockney , Hirst, Banksy.
Donโt spend all your time trying to find the next Banksy, just buy a Banksy. Many entry level pieces for all blue chip artists.
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Art as an investment , by Hugos There on Feb 17, 2022 10:36:09 GMT 1, As you will have heard a million times "investments can go down as well as up".
If you buy shares in a company and they go down you hate them. If they go up you love them.
As soon as you turn art into an investment the same can happen and you might just lose the whole point. The enjoyment of looking at it.
If you buy what you like and spend what you can afford to lose you will always win. If the art doesn't appreciate in value you will still enjoy it. If it gets worth a bit more you've won twice.
There will be a lot of people on this forum whose lives have been changed by the fact that they accidentally chose Banksy prints to decorate their walls above any of the other millions of artists out there. I'm sure most will tell you they were very lucky with their choice rather than shrewd genius investors. I doubt there are many other art forums where the members will be telling you they cashed out and bought houses.
From the advice already given in the posts above I'd agree that saving up and buying pieces from established A list artists is a safer bet. The fan base is already there and the big investors are less likely to let the values crash.
If you're still enjoying art in twenty or thirty years you'll know you've done the right thing whichever approach you take. Good luck.
As you will have heard a million times "investments can go down as well as up".
If you buy shares in a company and they go down you hate them. If they go up you love them.
As soon as you turn art into an investment the same can happen and you might just lose the whole point. The enjoyment of looking at it.
If you buy what you like and spend what you can afford to lose you will always win. If the art doesn't appreciate in value you will still enjoy it. If it gets worth a bit more you've won twice.
There will be a lot of people on this forum whose lives have been changed by the fact that they accidentally chose Banksy prints to decorate their walls above any of the other millions of artists out there. I'm sure most will tell you they were very lucky with their choice rather than shrewd genius investors. I doubt there are many other art forums where the members will be telling you they cashed out and bought houses.
From the advice already given in the posts above I'd agree that saving up and buying pieces from established A list artists is a safer bet. The fan base is already there and the big investors are less likely to let the values crash.
If you're still enjoying art in twenty or thirty years you'll know you've done the right thing whichever approach you take. Good luck.
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Art as an investment , by Hubble Bubble on Feb 17, 2022 10:49:00 GMT 1, I'd agree with much of the advice above. My modest collection includes several 'blue chip' artists and I continue to buy their works at a price point that I believe is right for the image and medium I believe to be representative of a desirable period of their output. I don't know if I'll ever sell but if I choose to then much of what I have is very saleable.
However, I would caveat all the above by saying that I firmly believe art for investment and pleasure can (and should) go hand in hand.
I have picked up pieces that are (financially) worthless but are just as valuable (emotionally) a part of my collection as those by the 'recognised' artists. They 'fit' with my collection and remind me of the joy I've had building it. I have mass produced images from IKEA, original oils from internet discovered artists, work from artists I've discovered on this forum... all sorts. So don't let the 'investment' cloud the fact that art collecting and discovery should be, first and foremost, a joyous and creative endeavour.
That's my 10 cents... enjoy the ride!
HB
I'd agree with much of the advice above. My modest collection includes several 'blue chip' artists and I continue to buy their works at a price point that I believe is right for the image and medium I believe to be representative of a desirable period of their output. I don't know if I'll ever sell but if I choose to then much of what I have is very saleable.
However, I would caveat all the above by saying that I firmly believe art for investment and pleasure can (and should) go hand in hand.
I have picked up pieces that are (financially) worthless but are just as valuable (emotionally) a part of my collection as those by the 'recognised' artists. They 'fit' with my collection and remind me of the joy I've had building it. I have mass produced images from IKEA, original oils from internet discovered artists, work from artists I've discovered on this forum... all sorts. So don't let the 'investment' cloud the fact that art collecting and discovery should be, first and foremost, a joyous and creative endeavour.
That's my 10 cents... enjoy the ride!
HB
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Art as an investment , by Deleted on Feb 17, 2022 10:54:10 GMT 1, Old sport
If you choose to approach things from a long term value investment standpoint search out undervalues in the market with a keen eye. Prepare to be slightly contrarian and don't follow the pack chap. The pack in the context of this plenary is largely (but not entirely) an undereducated rabble of dimwits with a critical lack of capital and long term insight. Searching out value is how outsized gains are made. I am talking 10x, 20x, 100x gains old sport. And always heed the old adage that it is time in the market not timing the market chap.
Old sport
If you choose to approach things from a long term value investment standpoint search out undervalues in the market with a keen eye. Prepare to be slightly contrarian and don't follow the pack chap. The pack in the context of this plenary is largely (but not entirely) an undereducated rabble of dimwits with a critical lack of capital and long term insight. Searching out value is how outsized gains are made. I am talking 10x, 20x, 100x gains old sport. And always heed the old adage that it is time in the market not timing the market chap.
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Art as an investment , by dullahmo on Feb 17, 2022 11:08:33 GMT 1, The advice above is amazing. Thank you so much, I wasn`t expecting as much help and advice as I have just received.
I will definitely look for the entry level blue chip pieces that I love. At this time, I have only bought popular artists with a following such as Joan Cornella, Cleon Peterson, Steven Harrington etc but not established blue chip. This is definitely food for thought.
The advice above is amazing. Thank you so much, I wasn`t expecting as much help and advice as I have just received.
I will definitely look for the entry level blue chip pieces that I love. At this time, I have only bought popular artists with a following such as Joan Cornella, Cleon Peterson, Steven Harrington etc but not established blue chip. This is definitely food for thought.
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Art as an investment , by dullahmo on Feb 17, 2022 11:12:33 GMT 1, Old sport If you choose to approach things from a long term value investment standpoint search out undervalues in the market with a keen eye. Prepare to be slightly contrarian and don't follow the pack chap. The pack in the context of this plenary is largely (but not entirely) an undereducated rabble of dimwits with a critical lack of capital and long term insight. Searching out value is how outsized gains are made. I am talking 10x, 20x, 100x gains old sport. And always heed the old adage that it is time in the market not timing the market chap. I guess if I pick that beautiful piece that I don`t want off my wall, it will be easier to keep the piece long term!
I understand stocks in the stock market in terms of valuations. I can as a layman ofcourse understand and see if a stock is undervalued or way overvalued etc. But how do you work out valuations in the art world?
Would it be like the odd Keith Haring piece selling for half the price of others? Or the likes of Richard Hambleton which took off a bit in 2018 but is now slowing down and off the radar?
This is all so interesting to me
Old sport If you choose to approach things from a long term value investment standpoint search out undervalues in the market with a keen eye. Prepare to be slightly contrarian and don't follow the pack chap. The pack in the context of this plenary is largely (but not entirely) an undereducated rabble of dimwits with a critical lack of capital and long term insight. Searching out value is how outsized gains are made. I am talking 10x, 20x, 100x gains old sport. And always heed the old adage that it is time in the market not timing the market chap. I guess if I pick that beautiful piece that I don`t want off my wall, it will be easier to keep the piece long term! I understand stocks in the stock market in terms of valuations. I can as a layman ofcourse understand and see if a stock is undervalued or way overvalued etc. But how do you work out valuations in the art world? Would it be like the odd Keith Haring piece selling for half the price of others? Or the likes of Richard Hambleton which took off a bit in 2018 but is now slowing down and off the radar? This is all so interesting to me
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Art as an investment , by Hugos There on Feb 17, 2022 11:13:14 GMT 1, it is time in the market not timing the market. I like that old bean !
it is time in the market not timing the market. I like that old bean !
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Art as an investment , by buffin on Feb 17, 2022 11:22:11 GMT 1, ย it is time in the market not timing the market.ย I like that old bean !
But donโt forget to โsell in May and go awayโ.
ย it is time in the market not timing the market.ย I like that old bean ! But donโt forget to โsell in May and go awayโ.
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Art as an investment , by Deleted on Feb 17, 2022 11:25:51 GMT 1, But donโt forget to โsell in May and go awayโ. Quite old sport.
But donโt forget to โsell in May and go awayโ. Quite old sport.
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Art as an investment , by Deleted on Feb 17, 2022 11:26:44 GMT 1, I think you mean hear hear you poor dimwitted fool!
I think you mean hear hear you poor dimwitted fool!
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Art as an investment , by Deleted on Feb 17, 2022 11:32:26 GMT 1, I think you mean hear hear you poor dimwitted fool! I was being ironic you blithering buffoon. Why, your witโs as thick as a Tewkesbury mustard. ๐ I very much doubt you were old sport! It was a fine demonstration of your thickness.
Wazzock.
I think you mean hear hear you poor dimwitted fool! I was being ironic you blithering buffoon. Why, your witโs as thick as a Tewkesbury mustard. ๐ I very much doubt you were old sport! It was a fine demonstration of your thickness. Wazzock.
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Art as an investment , by nobokov on Feb 17, 2022 17:29:42 GMT 1, Always buy what you like. I know it's boring to hear but it's true. Trying to guess who will be the next big thing is a mugs game. And you will lose. Having said that, if you want to play the game and don't mind the risks involved, I would always go for an artist who has a unique style. There are far too many artists these days who simply copy everyone else. They are obviously jumping on the latest bandwagon and will disappear into obscurity sooner or later. But mostly, look around at what's being produced; subscribe to gallery newsletters; follow various galleries on instagram. And trust your own instincts. Don't get drawn in to the latest hype or by what's being pushed by various people on here. Enjoy the ride. What if a person has terrible taste though? If that person buys what they like it's never gonna work. Some people, for some reason, don't have an eye for art so they'll need to buy bluechip and established names to reduce their risk. But buying at that level, they're only gonna get scraps and really terrible works - or worse, a print!
Whenever you start collecting, your tastes are gonna change and evolve if you're constantly looking, reading, obsessing yourself over it. In the beginning you're gonna buy a lot of shit that you're gonna regret. If you're lucky you can sell that stuff off to the next newbie collector. If not, it's going in the closet for a long time or end up in someone's secret santa box.
It's been said by others to hold off on buying at first and learn. Who knows if that works or not, because most of us have learned from our mistakes. Don't waste your money on prints. Avoid hypebeast art that'll never be taken seriously from gallery owners. If you're after a painting and the gallerist asks, "so tell me about your collection," you're gonna get a door slammed if you say, "Cleon peterson, Steve Harrington, KAWS, etc."
Don't buy little trinkets that they tout on here like plates, rugs, and signed book editions. Just save up and get one painting. A painting will appreciate more than a print ever will and they look a hell of a lot better than printed paper. All the money I spent early on, on the trinkets really added up probably more than what I was too scared to spend on a single purchase. Had I spent that money on a large painting...shoulda woulda coulda...
You're not gonna get all the secrets on here, because everyone's a competitor in this addiction. Don't trust most of what you read on here, because many are trying to manipulate you into buying or not buying something. Most are flipping and most people are competing with you. If you're lucky you'll find at least a couple people that are knowledgeable and you can share your addiction and passion for art.
Always buy what you like. I know it's boring to hear but it's true. Trying to guess who will be the next big thing is a mugs game. And you will lose. Having said that, if you want to play the game and don't mind the risks involved, I would always go for an artist who has a unique style. There are far too many artists these days who simply copy everyone else. They are obviously jumping on the latest bandwagon and will disappear into obscurity sooner or later. But mostly, look around at what's being produced; subscribe to gallery newsletters; follow various galleries on instagram. And trust your own instincts. Don't get drawn in to the latest hype or by what's being pushed by various people on here. Enjoy the ride. What if a person has terrible taste though? If that person buys what they like it's never gonna work. Some people, for some reason, don't have an eye for art so they'll need to buy bluechip and established names to reduce their risk. But buying at that level, they're only gonna get scraps and really terrible works - or worse, a print!
Whenever you start collecting, your tastes are gonna change and evolve if you're constantly looking, reading, obsessing yourself over it. In the beginning you're gonna buy a lot of shit that you're gonna regret. If you're lucky you can sell that stuff off to the next newbie collector. If not, it's going in the closet for a long time or end up in someone's secret santa box.
It's been said by others to hold off on buying at first and learn. Who knows if that works or not, because most of us have learned from our mistakes. Don't waste your money on prints. Avoid hypebeast art that'll never be taken seriously from gallery owners. If you're after a painting and the gallerist asks, "so tell me about your collection," you're gonna get a door slammed if you say, "Cleon peterson, Steve Harrington, KAWS, etc."
Don't buy little trinkets that they tout on here like plates, rugs, and signed book editions. Just save up and get one painting. A painting will appreciate more than a print ever will and they look a hell of a lot better than printed paper. All the money I spent early on, on the trinkets really added up probably more than what I was too scared to spend on a single purchase. Had I spent that money on a large painting...shoulda woulda coulda...
You're not gonna get all the secrets on here, because everyone's a competitor in this addiction. Don't trust most of what you read on here, because many are trying to manipulate you into buying or not buying something. Most are flipping and most people are competing with you. If you're lucky you'll find at least a couple people that are knowledgeable and you can share your addiction and passion for art.
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Art as an investment , by brokeartcollector on Feb 17, 2022 18:32:54 GMT 1, Always buy what you like. I know it's boring to hear but it's true. Trying to guess who will be the next big thing is a mugs game. And you will lose. Having said that, if you want to play the game and don't mind the risks involved, I would always go for an artist who has a unique style. There are far too many artists these days who simply copy everyone else. They are obviously jumping on the latest bandwagon and will disappear into obscurity sooner or later. But mostly, look around at what's being produced; subscribe to gallery newsletters; follow various galleries on instagram. And trust your own instincts. Don't get drawn in to the latest hype or by what's being pushed by various people on here. Enjoy the ride. What if a person has terrible taste though? If that person buys what they like it's never gonna work. Some people, for some reason, don't have an eye for art so they'll need to buy bluechip and established names to reduce their risk. But buying at that level, they're only gonna get scraps and really terrible works - or worse, a print!ย
Whenever you start collecting, your tastes are gonna change and evolve if you're constantly looking, reading, obsessing yourself over it. In the beginning you're gonna buy a lot of shit that you're gonna regret. If you're lucky you can sell that stuff off to the next newbie collector. If not, it's going in the closet for a long time or end up in someone's secret santa box.
It's been said by others to hold off on buying at first and learn. Who knows if that works or not, because most of us have learned from our mistakes. Don't waste your money on prints. Avoid hypebeast art that'll never be taken seriously from gallery owners. If you're after a painting and the gallerist asks, "so tell me about your collection," you're gonna get a door slammed if you say, "Cleon peterson, Steve Harrington, KAWS, etc."ย
Don't buy little trinkets that they tout on here like plates, rugs, and signed book editions. Just save up and get one painting. A painting will appreciate more than a print ever will and they look a hell of a lot better than printed paper. All the money I spent early on, on the trinkets really added up probably more than what I was too scared to spend on a single purchase. Had I spent that money on a large painting...shoulda woulda coulda...
You're not gonna get all the secrets on here, because everyone's a competitor in this addiction. Don't trust most of what you read on here, because many are trying to manipulate you into buying or not buying something. Most are flipping and most people are competing with you. If you're lucky you'll find at least a couple people that are knowledgeable and you can share your addiction and passion for art.
I agree with all stated except the print part. Prints are an affordable way to diversify your collection with blue-chip artist. Yes, buy originals if you can afford but if you love an artist and can only afford the print. Buy it! Artists careers can be volatile so I recommend diversifying your collection for investment purposes and prints are an incredible way to do that.
Always buy what you like. I know it's boring to hear but it's true. Trying to guess who will be the next big thing is a mugs game. And you will lose. Having said that, if you want to play the game and don't mind the risks involved, I would always go for an artist who has a unique style. There are far too many artists these days who simply copy everyone else. They are obviously jumping on the latest bandwagon and will disappear into obscurity sooner or later. But mostly, look around at what's being produced; subscribe to gallery newsletters; follow various galleries on instagram. And trust your own instincts. Don't get drawn in to the latest hype or by what's being pushed by various people on here. Enjoy the ride. What if a person has terrible taste though? If that person buys what they like it's never gonna work. Some people, for some reason, don't have an eye for art so they'll need to buy bluechip and established names to reduce their risk. But buying at that level, they're only gonna get scraps and really terrible works - or worse, a print!ย
Whenever you start collecting, your tastes are gonna change and evolve if you're constantly looking, reading, obsessing yourself over it. In the beginning you're gonna buy a lot of shit that you're gonna regret. If you're lucky you can sell that stuff off to the next newbie collector. If not, it's going in the closet for a long time or end up in someone's secret santa box.
It's been said by others to hold off on buying at first and learn. Who knows if that works or not, because most of us have learned from our mistakes. Don't waste your money on prints. Avoid hypebeast art that'll never be taken seriously from gallery owners. If you're after a painting and the gallerist asks, "so tell me about your collection," you're gonna get a door slammed if you say, "Cleon peterson, Steve Harrington, KAWS, etc."ย
Don't buy little trinkets that they tout on here like plates, rugs, and signed book editions. Just save up and get one painting. A painting will appreciate more than a print ever will and they look a hell of a lot better than printed paper. All the money I spent early on, on the trinkets really added up probably more than what I was too scared to spend on a single purchase. Had I spent that money on a large painting...shoulda woulda coulda...
You're not gonna get all the secrets on here, because everyone's a competitor in this addiction. Don't trust most of what you read on here, because many are trying to manipulate you into buying or not buying something. Most are flipping and most people are competing with you. If you're lucky you'll find at least a couple people that are knowledgeable and you can share your addiction and passion for art.
I agree with all stated except the print part. Prints are an affordable way to diversify your collection with blue-chip artist. Yes, buy originals if you can afford but if you love an artist and can only afford the print. Buy it! Artists careers can be volatile so I recommend diversifying your collection for investment purposes and prints are an incredible way to do that.
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Art as an investment , by orchid on Feb 17, 2022 18:46:31 GMT 1, On the other hand, the prints and multiples market for established and Blue-chip names is as buoyant as ever, with each of the big auction houses setting records each season and each having a number of auctions each year to allow access to the big names. People no longer turn their noses up to something being a hand made print Vs a painting, prints are an artform themselves.
On the other hand, the prints and multiples market for established and Blue-chip names is as buoyant as ever, with each of the big auction houses setting records each season and each having a number of auctions each year to allow access to the big names. People no longer turn their noses up to something being a hand made print Vs a painting, prints are an artform themselves.
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Art as an investment , by dotdot on Feb 17, 2022 19:04:46 GMT 1, Don't listen to any of the above.
It's a dangerous game - you could lose more than .. everything...
and all for what ?
if you dip - be careful - there be sharks in there... some funny sharks.. mind.
if you buy any sharks... let us know...
and yeah - try to maintain a sense of .. humour and ... a +ve bank balance the latter is , of course , optional.
Don't listen to any of the above.
It's a dangerous game - you could lose more than .. everything...
and all for what ?
if you dip - be careful - there be sharks in there... some funny sharks.. mind.
if you buy any sharks... let us know...
and yeah - try to maintain a sense of .. humour and ... a +ve bank balance the latter is , of course , optional.
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eleddy
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Art as an investment , by eleddy on Feb 17, 2022 19:09:03 GMT 1, Lots of great advice here. Not mentioned yet us to buy stuff that your children like. If it's worthless to others it doesn't matter since they will keep it for their adult lives as well. They are the ones who will buy prints 30 years down the road so it feels like a good bet.
My 4 year old loves to sit and scroll artsy with me. Pieces that we like in common and also hit the right price/time checkbox are house favorites. They currently argue over who gets certain pieces after we "die in hot lava". Priceless.
I actually never buy for a space and it always works out. This means stuff goes in and out of rotation but that's ok. Our kids get first pick at newly framed pieces for their rooms. The girls currently have hanging in their room: POSE, a Chiho aoishima, a very violent Cleon Peterson, and a giant trolls movie poster. *shrug* You like what you like!
Lots of great advice here. Not mentioned yet us to buy stuff that your children like. If it's worthless to others it doesn't matter since they will keep it for their adult lives as well. They are the ones who will buy prints 30 years down the road so it feels like a good bet.
My 4 year old loves to sit and scroll artsy with me. Pieces that we like in common and also hit the right price/time checkbox are house favorites. They currently argue over who gets certain pieces after we "die in hot lava". Priceless.
I actually never buy for a space and it always works out. This means stuff goes in and out of rotation but that's ok. Our kids get first pick at newly framed pieces for their rooms. The girls currently have hanging in their room: POSE, a Chiho aoishima, a very violent Cleon Peterson, and a giant trolls movie poster. *shrug* You like what you like!
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