Wanchope
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David Shrigley, by Wanchope on Apr 24, 2022 22:39:05 GMT 1, Hi All, a quick question if I may? I have been offered a shrigley and one that both my wife and I like - happy days and agreed a price on the assumption of COA included be it a purchase email from the original gallery or the COA (presuming they come with them).
However the seller who I have to say is good to deal with, canโt find either of the above just an email from PayPal, but not stating a date or the print name. He has looked high and low and the gallery wonโt reissue a coa and they have changed their system and no longer have records from 2017/2018.
So I am happy to honour the price, but this will niggle at me. Is this a big problem? I know provenance is essential on you know whoโs prints so again, is the lack of provenance a big problem from your point of view?
All the best
Hi All, a quick question if I may? I have been offered a shrigley and one that both my wife and I like - happy days and agreed a price on the assumption of COA included be it a purchase email from the original gallery or the COA (presuming they come with them).
However the seller who I have to say is good to deal with, canโt find either of the above just an email from PayPal, but not stating a date or the print name. He has looked high and low and the gallery wonโt reissue a coa and they have changed their system and no longer have records from 2017/2018.
So I am happy to honour the price, but this will niggle at me. Is this a big problem? I know provenance is essential on you know whoโs prints so again, is the lack of provenance a big problem from your point of view?
All the best
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J0NNY
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David Shrigley, by J0NNY on Apr 24, 2022 23:40:21 GMT 1, Hi All, a quick question if I may? I have been offered a shrigley and one that both my wife and I like - happy days and agreed a price on the assumption of COA included be it a purchase email from the original gallery or the COA (presuming they come with them). However the seller who I have to say is good to deal with, canโt find either of the above just an email from PayPal, but not stating a date or the print name. He has looked high and low and the gallery wonโt reissue a coa and they have changed their system and no longer have records from 2017/2018. So I am happy to honour the price, but this will niggle at me. Is this a big problem? I know provenance is essential on you know whoโs prints so again, is the lack of provenance a big problem from your point of view? All the best
Iโd say not really, Iโve never asked for a COA for any work that Iโve bought secondary - if it turns up with one thatโs cool. That being said a lot of buyers, especially ones with less exposure to an artist would like that peace of mind but the only fake Iโve ever ended up with had a COA anyway.
Hi All, a quick question if I may? I have been offered a shrigley and one that both my wife and I like - happy days and agreed a price on the assumption of COA included be it a purchase email from the original gallery or the COA (presuming they come with them). However the seller who I have to say is good to deal with, canโt find either of the above just an email from PayPal, but not stating a date or the print name. He has looked high and low and the gallery wonโt reissue a coa and they have changed their system and no longer have records from 2017/2018. So I am happy to honour the price, but this will niggle at me. Is this a big problem? I know provenance is essential on you know whoโs prints so again, is the lack of provenance a big problem from your point of view? All the best Iโd say not really, Iโve never asked for a COA for any work that Iโve bought secondary - if it turns up with one thatโs cool. That being said a lot of buyers, especially ones with less exposure to an artist would like that peace of mind but the only fake Iโve ever ended up with had a COA anyway. |
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David Shrigley, by Horatio Nelson on Apr 24, 2022 23:56:52 GMT 1, If itโs Jealous, I know they can provide a replacement CoA if the original is lost (they did for me). They will want to see the print and also the number/signature (almost always on the reverse with Shrigley).
Did the seller buy directly from a gallery or on secondary? It seems strange for the PayPal not to have the details.
If itโs Jealous, I know they can provide a replacement CoA if the original is lost (they did for me). They will want to see the print and also the number/signature (almost always on the reverse with Shrigley).
Did the seller buy directly from a gallery or on secondary? It seems strange for the PayPal not to have the details.
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rbt
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David Shrigley, by rbt on Apr 25, 2022 1:10:00 GMT 1, they have changed their system and no longer have records from 2017/2018.
I wouldnโt do the transaction. Which gallery doesnโt have their records for an entire year of sales?! No.
they have changed their system and no longer have records from 2017/2018. I wouldnโt do the transaction. Which gallery doesnโt have their records for an entire year of sales?! No. |
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tcb
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David Shrigley, by tcb on Apr 25, 2022 3:06:41 GMT 1, Some Shrigleys come with a COA some don't.
Paypal receipt from that year to the publisher sounds legit to me.
May I ask which print?
Some Shrigleys come with a COA some don't.
Paypal receipt from that year to the publisher sounds legit to me.
May I ask which print?
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Wanchope
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David Shrigley, by Wanchope on Apr 25, 2022 7:13:04 GMT 1, If itโs Jealous, I know they can provide a replacement CoA if the original is lost (they did for me). They will want to see the print and also the number/signature (almost always on the reverse with Shrigley). Did the seller buy directly from a gallery or on secondary? It seems strange for the PayPal not to have the details.
itโs not jealous, but Schafer and to be fair when Iโve looked at PayPal you can only search over the past year and this was four years ago. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
If itโs Jealous, I know they can provide a replacement CoA if the original is lost (they did for me). They will want to see the print and also the number/signature (almost always on the reverse with Shrigley). Did the seller buy directly from a gallery or on secondary? It seems strange for the PayPal not to have the details. itโs not jealous, but Schafer and to be fair when Iโve looked at PayPal you can only search over the past year and this was four years ago. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ |
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Wanchope
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David Shrigley, by Wanchope on Apr 25, 2022 7:13:53 GMT 1, Shrig Shop didnโt issue a COA with their signed editions as of last year. Does the seller happen to have any email, payment xfer, packaging that would help?
it was purchased in 2018 and deleted the purchase emails.
Shrig Shop didnโt issue a COA with their signed editions as of last year. Does the seller happen to have any email, payment xfer, packaging that would help? it was purchased in 2018 and deleted the purchase emails. |
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Wanchope
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David Shrigley, by Wanchope on Apr 25, 2022 7:16:19 GMT 1, Some Shrigleys come with a COA some don't. Paypal receipt from that year to the publisher sounds legit to me. May I ask which print?
I canโt state the print yet, but it was 4 years ago and PayPal so far have just said there was a payment to Schafer of x amount. It doesnโt have a date of the transaction or what print it relates to. The seller is going to try again between the gallery and PayPal as he has a transaction number now. Fingers crossed !!
Some Shrigleys come with a COA some don't. Paypal receipt from that year to the publisher sounds legit to me. May I ask which print? I canโt state the print yet, but it was 4 years ago and PayPal so far have just said there was a payment to Schafer of x amount. It doesnโt have a date of the transaction or what print it relates to. The seller is going to try again between the gallery and PayPal as he has a transaction number now. Fingers crossed !! |
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tcb
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David Shrigley, by tcb on Apr 25, 2022 8:28:23 GMT 1, Some Shrigleys come with a COA some don't. Paypal receipt from that year to the publisher sounds legit to me. May I ask which print? I canโt state the print yet, but it was 4 years ago and PayPal so far have just said there was a payment to Schafer of x amount. It doesnโt have a date of the transaction or what print it relates to. The seller is going to try again between the gallery and PayPal as he has a transaction number now. Fingers crossed !!
Some Shrigleys come with a COA some don't. Paypal receipt from that year to the publisher sounds legit to me. May I ask which print? I canโt state the print yet, but it was 4 years ago and PayPal so far have just said there was a payment to Schafer of x amount. It doesnโt have a date of the transaction or what print it relates to. The seller is going to try again between the gallery and PayPal as he has a transaction number now. Fingers crossed !! Schaefer is the publisher. So no person in-between. For me that would be enough. |
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Wanchope
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David Shrigley, by Wanchope on Apr 25, 2022 8:48:04 GMT 1, I canโt state the print yet, but it was 4 years ago and PayPal so far have just said there was a payment to Schafer of x amount. It doesnโt have a date of the transaction or what print it relates to. The seller is going to try again between the gallery and PayPal as he has a transaction number now. Fingers crossed !! Schaefer is the publisher. So no person in-between. For me that would be enough.ย
ok and just hope he can get PayPal to produce the full transaction and then we are good to go. Thanks for the info
I canโt state the print yet, but it was 4 years ago and PayPal so far have just said there was a payment to Schafer of x amount. It doesnโt have a date of the transaction or what print it relates to. The seller is going to try again between the gallery and PayPal as he has a transaction number now. Fingers crossed !! Schaefer is the publisher. So no person in-between. For me that would be enough.ย ok and just hope he can get PayPal to produce the full transaction and then we are good to go. Thanks for the info |
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