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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Blue on Oct 7, 2022 1:15:54 GMT 1, This is not meaning to be a trolling or insolent post… it is purely out of curiosity and intrigue as a collector…but…
Can someone explain the appeal of Harland Miller’s work to me?
I don’t quite understand the demand and punchy figure for his prints... I know he is an acclaimed author/artist but from my un-informed perspective, his work is a just string of pastiche book covers… can someone enlighten me?
Thanks in advance
This is not meaning to be a trolling or insolent post… it is purely out of curiosity and intrigue as a collector…but…
Can someone explain the appeal of Harland Miller’s work to me?
I don’t quite understand the demand and punchy figure for his prints... I know he is an acclaimed author/artist but from my un-informed perspective, his work is a just string of pastiche book covers… can someone enlighten me?
Thanks in advance
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by ck1 on Oct 7, 2022 1:29:57 GMT 1, I think many love the imagery and the sense of humor but I thought the following video was enlightening about how the works have more meaning to the artist and his collectors.
I think many love the imagery and the sense of humor but I thought the following video was enlightening about how the works have more meaning to the artist and his collectors.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Daniel Silk on Oct 7, 2022 1:47:12 GMT 1, They are not too controversial maybe? They make a statement or witty comment, but mostly don't upset anyone. Might sound crazy, but to me all his art appears to be a nice size, really big! I think that pleases a lot of buyers, giving them a piece that really stands out.
They are not too controversial maybe? They make a statement or witty comment, but mostly don't upset anyone. Might sound crazy, but to me all his art appears to be a nice size, really big! I think that pleases a lot of buyers, giving them a piece that really stands out.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Riotcops on Oct 7, 2022 3:32:54 GMT 1, For me its the texture which is much more appealing in person. Some of my favourite works in my collection are Millers, I can stare at the drips and smears all day. His geometrical work (Armageddon, Happiness) doesn't do it for me and some of the common titles are hit or miss for me as well. But the right work in the right space is a show stopper.
For me its the texture which is much more appealing in person. Some of my favourite works in my collection are Millers, I can stare at the drips and smears all day. His geometrical work (Armageddon, Happiness) doesn't do it for me and some of the common titles are hit or miss for me as well. But the right work in the right space is a show stopper.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Smallfry on Oct 7, 2022 4:53:53 GMT 1, It’s the Penguin nostalgia combined with the subversive wit that does it for me. This could be why he appeals more in the UK vs. Rest of the world.
It’s the Penguin nostalgia combined with the subversive wit that does it for me. This could be why he appeals more in the UK vs. Rest of the world.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Reader on Oct 7, 2022 9:22:16 GMT 1, This is not meaning to be a trolling or insolent post… it is purely out of curiosity and intrigue as a collector…but… Can someone explain the appeal of Harland Miller’s work to me? Thanks in advance I'd recommend a trip to the seaside towns down the East Coast of Yorkshire or grab yourself some Penguin books, which is a "coming of age" brand for many. For an American, I guess It's a little like reliving an experience of taking the subway to the end of the line at Coney Island on a wet Monday morning, getting an overpriced hot dog from a Bukowski like character, then sitting down to read "Catcher in the Rye" on a wet bench by a deserted rollercoaster as you look out through the mist rolling in from the sea and having a wry smile at it alll. For me, they're soaked in this pathos.
This is not meaning to be a trolling or insolent post… it is purely out of curiosity and intrigue as a collector…but… Can someone explain the appeal of Harland Miller’s work to me? Thanks in advance I'd recommend a trip to the seaside towns down the East Coast of Yorkshire or grab yourself some Penguin books, which is a "coming of age" brand for many. For an American, I guess It's a little like reliving an experience of taking the subway to the end of the line at Coney Island on a wet Monday morning, getting an overpriced hot dog from a Bukowski like character, then sitting down to read "Catcher in the Rye" on a wet bench by a deserted rollercoaster as you look out through the mist rolling in from the sea and having a wry smile at it alll. For me, they're soaked in this pathos.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Reader on Oct 7, 2022 14:46:11 GMT 1, One an acclaimed writer and contemporary artist with an MA from Chelsea represented by Jopling's White Cube, painting Penguin book covers since the early 00's. The other, the "annonymous" James McQueen, probably a Connor Brother, ripping off both since 2018, with a gallery representing Bob Dylan and flogging secondary market Dali's to fund managers :-)
One an acclaimed writer and contemporary artist with an MA from Chelsea represented by Jopling's White Cube, painting Penguin book covers since the early 00's. The other, the "annonymous" James McQueen, probably a Connor Brother, ripping off both since 2018, with a gallery representing Bob Dylan and flogging secondary market Dali's to fund managers :-)
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Reader on Oct 7, 2022 14:49:18 GMT 1, Reader You are either female or an incredibly hot guy. I am basing that on your description alone. 😭😉 ha, spoken like a gal who's holiday'd in a caravan, why not both, either way, I'll take it.
Reader You are either female or an incredibly hot guy. I am basing that on your description alone. 😭😉 ha, spoken like a gal who's holiday'd in a caravan, why not both, either way, I'll take it.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by SFBM on Oct 7, 2022 16:18:37 GMT 1, I've noticed recently HM's work seems to hang in the home of every high-profile former football player in the UK - regularly pop up in the background on TV, social media etc- more than any other artists. Not saying thats a bad thing, BTW, just an observation.
I've noticed recently HM's work seems to hang in the home of every high-profile former football player in the UK - regularly pop up in the background on TV, social media etc- more than any other artists. Not saying thats a bad thing, BTW, just an observation.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by sandinista on Oct 7, 2022 16:34:30 GMT 1, I've noticed recently HM's work seems to hang in the home of every high-profile former football player in the UK - regularly pop up in the background on TV, social media etc- more than any other artists. Not saying thats a bad thing, BTW, just an observation. As close as most of them have ever been to a book. plus 3 words.
I've noticed recently HM's work seems to hang in the home of every high-profile former football player in the UK - regularly pop up in the background on TV, social media etc- more than any other artists. Not saying thats a bad thing, BTW, just an observation. As close as most of them have ever been to a book. plus 3 words.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Daniel Silk on Oct 7, 2022 16:45:49 GMT 1, I've noticed recently HM's work seems to hang in the home of every high-profile former football player in the UK - regularly pop up in the background on TV, social media etc- more than any other artists. Not saying thats a bad thing, BTW, just an observation. Maybe his style attracts those that maybe aren't actually really that interested in Art? I don't mean that as an insult, I just mean the appeal of his art is maybe broader than most, so Footballers and Celebrities who don't really follow the art scene, who get invited along to gallery events, and end up buying a few pieces that take their fancy.
I've noticed recently HM's work seems to hang in the home of every high-profile former football player in the UK - regularly pop up in the background on TV, social media etc- more than any other artists. Not saying thats a bad thing, BTW, just an observation. Maybe his style attracts those that maybe aren't actually really that interested in Art? I don't mean that as an insult, I just mean the appeal of his art is maybe broader than most, so Footballers and Celebrities who don't really follow the art scene, who get invited along to gallery events, and end up buying a few pieces that take their fancy.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by sandinista on Oct 7, 2022 17:10:53 GMT 1, Lets face it his prices have and are rising. They are told that and buy. Plenty of other artists doing the same thing cheaper and as well if you are only interested in the look. Take away the potential financial gain and you wouldn't own a fraction of what you do and this forum would have 2 visits a day. same thing with yeezy's, supreme etc.
Lets face it his prices have and are rising. They are told that and buy. Plenty of other artists doing the same thing cheaper and as well if you are only interested in the look. Take away the potential financial gain and you wouldn't own a fraction of what you do and this forum would have 2 visits a day. same thing with yeezy's, supreme etc.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Love Is In The Air on Oct 7, 2022 17:24:43 GMT 1, His work at its best for me sometimes makes you laugh and sometimes makes you think. Few quick examples off top of my head:
If Your Past Were On Fire Would You Go Back To Save It (2016) - this one stuck with me for a while and made me think of the highlights of my life and some of the real low points and the idea of erasing them all. I would lose some great memories but also erase things I am perhaps ashamed or embarrassed of. Not sure if this was the intention but a painting that prompted many thoughts.
This is where its fucking at - at least it used to be (various) - As someone middle-aged this makes me smile and think of the LCD Soundsystem track Losing My Edge. A confident proclamation and then the realisation that you are perhaps no longer cool or possibly even relevant.
Rags To Polyester (2014) - I found funny, an obvious tweak on rags to riches stories. Perhaps a much more common story of someone from working classes remaining there with a small trajectory in life.
I could go on, I suppose the point I am trying to make is that on the surface they could seem quite basic titles, but often the titles provoke wider thought, or a flashback to a different time or memory for the right person. Throw in the pathos beautifully described by Reader earlier in the thread, the feeling or mood Penguin books evoke for many Brits, and the lovely drips of colour on the edging of the paintings, and you have a fair few reasons to like his work or want it on your walls.
His work at its best for me sometimes makes you laugh and sometimes makes you think. Few quick examples off top of my head:
If Your Past Were On Fire Would You Go Back To Save It (2016) - this one stuck with me for a while and made me think of the highlights of my life and some of the real low points and the idea of erasing them all. I would lose some great memories but also erase things I am perhaps ashamed or embarrassed of. Not sure if this was the intention but a painting that prompted many thoughts.
This is where its fucking at - at least it used to be (various) - As someone middle-aged this makes me smile and think of the LCD Soundsystem track Losing My Edge. A confident proclamation and then the realisation that you are perhaps no longer cool or possibly even relevant.
Rags To Polyester (2014) - I found funny, an obvious tweak on rags to riches stories. Perhaps a much more common story of someone from working classes remaining there with a small trajectory in life.
I could go on, I suppose the point I am trying to make is that on the surface they could seem quite basic titles, but often the titles provoke wider thought, or a flashback to a different time or memory for the right person. Throw in the pathos beautifully described by Reader earlier in the thread, the feeling or mood Penguin books evoke for many Brits, and the lovely drips of colour on the edging of the paintings, and you have a fair few reasons to like his work or want it on your walls.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Blue on Oct 7, 2022 18:41:13 GMT 1, Cheers for the 2 cents all. Still not 100% sold, but hearing thoughts and watching the above video 'I get it' a bit more now...
Cheers for the 2 cents all. Still not 100% sold, but hearing thoughts and watching the above video 'I get it' a bit more now...
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Smallfry on Oct 8, 2022 20:46:04 GMT 1, I’m surprised no one has pointed out the title of this thread could be one of his book covers!
I’m surprised no one has pointed out the title of this thread could be one of his book covers!
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by yoss on Oct 13, 2022 18:27:21 GMT 1, This is not meaning to be a trolling or insolent post… it is purely out of curiosity and intrigue as a collector…but… Can someone explain the appeal of Harland Miller’s work to me? Thanks in advance I'd recommend a trip to the seaside towns down the East Coast of Yorkshire or grab yourself some Penguin books, which is a "coming of age" brand for many. For an American, I guess It's a little like reliving an experience of taking the subway to the end of the line at Coney Island on a wet Monday morning, getting an overpriced hot dog from a Bukowski like character, then sitting down to read "Catcher in the Rye" on a wet bench by a deserted rollercoaster as you look out through the mist rolling in from the sea and having a wry smile at it alll. For me, they're soaked in this pathos. I'm not sure if I can compare HM's works to a ride to Coney, but damn Reader...you can really paint a mental picture!!! I think you should change your tag to "Reader/Writer"
This is not meaning to be a trolling or insolent post… it is purely out of curiosity and intrigue as a collector…but… Can someone explain the appeal of Harland Miller’s work to me? Thanks in advance I'd recommend a trip to the seaside towns down the East Coast of Yorkshire or grab yourself some Penguin books, which is a "coming of age" brand for many. For an American, I guess It's a little like reliving an experience of taking the subway to the end of the line at Coney Island on a wet Monday morning, getting an overpriced hot dog from a Bukowski like character, then sitting down to read "Catcher in the Rye" on a wet bench by a deserted rollercoaster as you look out through the mist rolling in from the sea and having a wry smile at it alll. For me, they're soaked in this pathos. I'm not sure if I can compare HM's works to a ride to Coney, but damn Reader...you can really paint a mental picture!!! I think you should change your tag to "Reader/Writer"
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Sundowner on Oct 13, 2022 18:33:58 GMT 1, It probably didn't help that this piece had already been on the block at Christie's last July and hammered at £130k.
It probably didn't help that this piece had already been on the block at Christie's last July and hammered at £130k.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Georgie Poppit on Oct 13, 2022 18:40:03 GMT 1, A large work on paper hammered at £22k which is pretty bad. His originals don’t perform well at auction for some reason. Every time one performs badly there’s always the same excuses rolled out… Wrong colour, wrong title, no Penguin, too big, too small, don’t like the straight edges etc etc. I personally think his work should sell for more than many artists and I thought the green Who Cares Wins was a really great example of his work.
A large work on paper hammered at £22k which is pretty bad. His originals don’t perform well at auction for some reason. Every time one performs badly there’s always the same excuses rolled out… Wrong colour, wrong title, no Penguin, too big, too small, don’t like the straight edges etc etc. I personally think his work should sell for more than many artists and I thought the green Who Cares Wins was a really great example of his work.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 19:04:05 GMT 1, If you have an estimate of 200-300k it needs to be hammering at 500k to hit the true number they want or Expect.
Harland is a 200k artist so the estimate killed the works chances in this instance.
80-100k would have garnered interest and bidding,
Harland is a good artist, I’m a fan for sure. he’s not a great artist though.
Prints flip, originals are a much harder proposition.
That said I’d have this who cares canvas on my wall and enjoy it for sure..
If you have an estimate of 200-300k it needs to be hammering at 500k to hit the true number they want or Expect.
Harland is a 200k artist so the estimate killed the works chances in this instance.
80-100k would have garnered interest and bidding,
Harland is a good artist, I’m a fan for sure. he’s not a great artist though.
Prints flip, originals are a much harder proposition.
That said I’d have this who cares canvas on my wall and enjoy it for sure..
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Sunny Garcia on Oct 14, 2022 2:34:53 GMT 1, That estimate was simply way too high. Beauty work though ... ... ... more words needed, who put this stupid stipulation in?
That estimate was simply way too high. Beauty work though ... ... ... more words needed, who put this stupid stipulation in?
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by The Greased Piglet on Oct 14, 2022 3:56:01 GMT 1, As well as the obvious influences Miller does draw a lot an art history, you can see in his compositions little head nods to previous artistic movements, there's pop art, abstract expressionist, and conceptual influences. Kind of like putting Andy Warhol, Rothko, Twombly, Mel Bochner, and Damien Hirst in a blender with the added ingredients of his appreciation of literature and experience as a writer. All of this is presented in a very accessible way for people and clearly has commercial appeal whilst having an esoteric layer. This means that it will not only appeal to people with an art history background but also new collectors. Personally I'm a big fan of his; if you're looking at buying his work for financial reasons my only advice would be to be selective and patient. Certain works will do very well, but others will always struggle. Some of the secondary prices being asked are stupid, try wherever possible to buy primary at a sensible price or if you buy secondary try and buy directly from a collector so you don't have to pay gallery prices or big auction fees. Fortunately his works come up on here at least once every few months at sensible prices so UAA is a good resource for Miller.
The canvas at Philips today had a stupid reserve, it only sold in July 21 and was way too early to be back under the hammer especially in light of the current economic problems. Assuming it was the first time on the block this should have been estimated at £100-120k and it probably would have hammered for around or above the high estimate. These size canvas do sell for between £200-250k all in but this is not the strongest in my view and is probably worth £150-180k total cost to a collector.
As well as the obvious influences Miller does draw a lot an art history, you can see in his compositions little head nods to previous artistic movements, there's pop art, abstract expressionist, and conceptual influences. Kind of like putting Andy Warhol, Rothko, Twombly, Mel Bochner, and Damien Hirst in a blender with the added ingredients of his appreciation of literature and experience as a writer. All of this is presented in a very accessible way for people and clearly has commercial appeal whilst having an esoteric layer. This means that it will not only appeal to people with an art history background but also new collectors. Personally I'm a big fan of his; if you're looking at buying his work for financial reasons my only advice would be to be selective and patient. Certain works will do very well, but others will always struggle. Some of the secondary prices being asked are stupid, try wherever possible to buy primary at a sensible price or if you buy secondary try and buy directly from a collector so you don't have to pay gallery prices or big auction fees. Fortunately his works come up on here at least once every few months at sensible prices so UAA is a good resource for Miller.
The canvas at Philips today had a stupid reserve, it only sold in July 21 and was way too early to be back under the hammer especially in light of the current economic problems. Assuming it was the first time on the block this should have been estimated at £100-120k and it probably would have hammered for around or above the high estimate. These size canvas do sell for between £200-250k all in but this is not the strongest in my view and is probably worth £150-180k total cost to a collector.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Johnny Sarcasm on Nov 1, 2022 9:57:34 GMT 1, He's a one trick pony and his one trick isn't even that good/original. Anything outside of the penguin series never caught on for a good reason - they aren't very good. His new work being released looks even worse. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkYqwSSqkB3 LOL thanks for your input Charles Saatchi, can’t begin to imagine the impact you’ve made on the world
He's a one trick pony and his one trick isn't even that good/original. Anything outside of the penguin series never caught on for a good reason - they aren't very good. His new work being released looks even worse. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkYqwSSqkB3 LOL thanks for your input Charles Saatchi, can’t begin to imagine the impact you’ve made on the world
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Georgie Poppit on Nov 1, 2022 11:17:48 GMT 1, I think he’s struggled to find a style away from the penguins that is as successful. His auction results have never set the world alight yet White Cube try and price his originals more on primary than on secondary which is a recipe for disaster. He does have good hair though.
I think he’s struggled to find a style away from the penguins that is as successful. His auction results have never set the world alight yet White Cube try and price his originals more on primary than on secondary which is a recipe for disaster. He does have good hair though.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by freak17 on Nov 17, 2022 7:12:36 GMT 1, I guess McQueen knows why he's hiding ...... intellectual thieves could receive legal consequences - if known. Call him a freeloader-swindler who don’t do anything themselves but still benefit from others.
I guess McQueen knows why he's hiding ...... intellectual thieves could receive legal consequences - if known. Call him a freeloader-swindler who don’t do anything themselves but still benefit from others.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Georgie Poppit on Nov 17, 2022 9:55:29 GMT 1, Very little being said on his new works at the White Cube show. There’s a couple a quite like but some are very poor. Some even look like GCSE standard and I don’t think that’s an exaggeration.
Very little being said on his new works at the White Cube show. There’s a couple a quite like but some are very poor. Some even look like GCSE standard and I don’t think that’s an exaggeration.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Reader on Nov 17, 2022 10:26:26 GMT 1, Very little being said on his new works at the White Cube show. There’s a couple a quite like but some are very poor. Some even look like GCSE standard and I don’t think that’s an exaggeration.
These? it's an interesting body of work and shows a mature and obvious love of the medium of painting. Especially with the reference to Asger Jorn. I guess the more you put in, the more you get out.
"Miller’s exhibition title, ‘Imminent End, Rescheduled Eternally’, is typically dark, suggestive and poetic, pointing to circularity and a process of building and dissolution that might also be a metaphor for his own painterly practice. In his new works, evolving from themes present in earlier series, Miller focuses on the language of paint; its materiality, seductive properties, colour range and styles of application. In particular, he draws on the gestural abandon of 1950s abstraction, the physical surfaces of Danish artist Asger Jorn, and the bright, saturated palette and iconography of Pop Art. At the same time, Miller unearths themes of anxiety, love and mortality, that are the foundations of the human condition".
Very little being said on his new works at the White Cube show. There’s a couple a quite like but some are very poor. Some even look like GCSE standard and I don’t think that’s an exaggeration.
These? it's an interesting body of work and shows a mature and obvious love of the medium of painting. Especially with the reference to Asger Jorn. I guess the more you put in, the more you get out. "Miller’s exhibition title, ‘Imminent End, Rescheduled Eternally’, is typically dark, suggestive and poetic, pointing to circularity and a process of building and dissolution that might also be a metaphor for his own painterly practice. In his new works, evolving from themes present in earlier series, Miller focuses on the language of paint; its materiality, seductive properties, colour range and styles of application. In particular, he draws on the gestural abandon of 1950s abstraction, the physical surfaces of Danish artist Asger Jorn, and the bright, saturated palette and iconography of Pop Art. At the same time, Miller unearths themes of anxiety, love and mortality, that are the foundations of the human condition".
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Wenters on Nov 17, 2022 11:46:03 GMT 1, Go see them in person......he has been very busy!
Tuesday night was lovely!
words words words
Go see them in person......he has been very busy! Tuesday night was lovely! words words words
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by Winter on Nov 17, 2022 12:14:31 GMT 1, Not feeling this one..
Was it busy on Tuesday, ususally there would be lots of people from here there.
Not feeling this one.. Was it busy on Tuesday, ususally there would be lots of people from here there.
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Harland Miller • Whats the Deal?, by artlife11 on Nov 17, 2022 12:37:43 GMT 1, Go see them in person......he has been very busy! Tuesday night was lovely! words words words I really like this new stuff and glad he is not just doing loads more Penguin book covers although I think they are great. Will be interesting to see print techniques if he does any prints of these in future
Go see them in person......he has been very busy! Tuesday night was lovely! words words words I really like this new stuff and glad he is not just doing loads more Penguin book covers although I think they are great. Will be interesting to see print techniques if he does any prints of these in future
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