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Cleon Peterson • The Naked Woman & Man, by Daniel Silk on Dec 16, 2022 1:36:05 GMT 1, store.cleonpeterson.com/
THE NAKED WOMAN & MAN (BLACK) Hand pulled 13 x 18” black and bone screen print. Printed on 290gsm Coventry Rag paper with deckled edges. Each print is signed and numbered. Limited edition of 75. Regular price $125
store.cleonpeterson.com/THE NAKED WOMAN & MAN (BLACK) Hand pulled 13 x 18” black and bone screen print. Printed on 290gsm Coventry Rag paper with deckled edges. Each print is signed and numbered. Limited edition of 75. Regular price $125
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nobokov
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Cleon Peterson • The Naked Woman & Man, by nobokov on Dec 16, 2022 2:08:57 GMT 1, Just in time for Christmas.....misogyny.
Just in time for Christmas.....misogyny.
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tranito
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Cleon Peterson • The Naked Woman & Man, by tranito on Dec 16, 2022 2:30:31 GMT 1, Just in time for Christmas.....misogyny.
Just in time for Christmas.....misogyny. Condemning it though, not embracing it. |
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met
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Cleon Peterson • The Naked Woman & Man, by met on Dec 16, 2022 5:27:02 GMT 1, Just in time for Christmas.....misogyny. Condemning it though, not embracing it.
Given nobokov's previous form, I read their post as pithy humour — rather than as genuine criticism, or a premise to be taken at face value.
For the most part with the art of Cleon Peterson, I see no real discrimination between the sexes or races.
His work often seems more about generic, almost abstract or philosophical notions of the Other. And of course about the violence and barbarity of mankind (this latter term, for the avoidance of doubt, being used in the collective sense).
At least with me, the above print release doesn't therefore evoke any themes of misogyny.
Likewise, if the positions of the male and female characters were reversed, I would not describe the resulting piece as being either misandrous or a commentary by the artist on misandry:
Just in time for Christmas.....misogyny. Condemning it though, not embracing it. Given nobokov's previous form, I read their post as pithy humour — rather than as genuine criticism, or a premise to be taken at fa ce value. For the most part with the art of Cleon Peterson, I see no real discrimination between the sexes or races. His work often seems more about generic, almost abstract or philosophical notions of the Other. And of course about the violence and barbarity of mankind (this latter term, for the avoidance of doubt, being used in the collective sense). At least with me, the above print release doesn't therefore evoke any themes of misogyny. Likewise, if the positions of the male and female characters were reversed, I would not describe the resulting piece as being either misandrous or a commentary by the artist on misandry: |
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nobokov
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Cleon Peterson • The Naked Woman & Man, by nobokov on Dec 16, 2022 16:55:07 GMT 1, Condemning it though, not embracing it. Given nobokov 's previous form, I read their post as pithy humour — rather than as genuine criticism, or a premise to be taken at fa ce value. For the most part with the art of Cleon Peterson, I see no real discrimination between the sexes or races. His work often seems more about generic, almost abstract or philosophical notions of the Other. And of course about the violence and barbarity of mankind (this latter term, for the avoidance of doubt, being used in the collective sense). At least with me, the above print release doesn't therefore evoke any themes of misogyny. Likewise, if the positions of the male and female characters were reversed, I would not describe the resulting piece as being either misandrous or a commentary by the artist on misandry: I think I can agree with your take. I don't imagine that the artist has hatred for women, hopefully. He's merely creating images reflecting humanity. But for those who would purchase and display an image of a man standing over a dying woman, seemingly standing on her crotch area, I would raise an eyebrow.
I don't know about you, but I was raised to revere violence: but only man on man violence or woman on man violence. There's a romance in that kind of image. We're taught to see the heroism in that.
But perhaps you're able to view his work more abstractly than I can. I wonder, if it was an image of a man or woman standing triumphantly over a bleeding child, would you be able to view it in the same light?
To me, an artist should be able to make images like this if they're expressing some sort of artistic commentary on life, but to release print images of violence on women for commercial consumption seems inappropriate, maybe especially during the holidays. But maybe, that's just a reflection of the type of violence that I can view as acceptable. Others on here have expressed that they could never display any of his violent imagery in their homes regardless of what kind of gender combo it is, so it's interesting.
Condemning it though, not embracing it. Given nobokov 's previous form, I read their post as pithy humour — rather than as genuine criticism, or a premise to be taken at fa ce value. For the most part with the art of Cleon Peterson, I see no real discrimination between the sexes or races. His work often seems more about generic, almost abstract or philosophical notions of the Other. And of course about the violence and barbarity of mankind (this latter term, for the avoidance of doubt, being used in the collective sense). At least with me, the above print release doesn't therefore evoke any themes of misogyny. Likewise, if the positions of the male and female characters were reversed, I would not describe the resulting piece as being either misandrous or a commentary by the artist on misandry: I think I can agree with your take. I don't imagine that the artist has hatred for women, hopefully. He's merely creating images reflecting humanity. But for those who would purchase and display an image of a man standing over a dying woman, seemingly standing on her crotch area, I would raise an eyebrow.
I don't know about you, but I was raised to revere violence: but only man on man violence or woman on man violence. There's a romance in that kind of image. We're taught to see the heroism in that.
But perhaps you're able to view his work more abstractly than I can. I wonder, if it was an image of a man or woman standing triumphantly over a bleeding child, would you be able to view it in the same light?
To me, an artist should be able to make images like this if they're expressing some sort of artistic commentary on life, but to release print images of violence on women for commercial consumption seems inappropriate, maybe especially during the holidays. But maybe, that's just a reflection of the type of violence that I can view as acceptable. Others on here have expressed that they could never display any of his violent imagery in their homes regardless of what kind of gender combo it is, so it's interesting.
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Cleon Peterson • The Naked Woman & Man, by Newar on Dec 16, 2022 17:05:40 GMT 1, Both image framed are amazing together  be perfect in a dinning room for guest Wish i knew it's going to be a diptych
Both image framed are amazing together be perfect in a dinning room for guest Wish i knew it's going to be a diptych
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Cleon Peterson • The Naked Woman & Man, by Deleted on Dec 17, 2022 4:02:36 GMT 1, I couldn’t get myself to buy it. Regardless.
I couldn’t get myself to buy it. Regardless.
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be perfect in a dinning room for guest 
