George Poppit
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by George Poppit on Aug 3, 2023 20:23:57 GMT 1, Seems to be a few arriving in the US according to IG
Seems to be a few arriving in the US according to IG
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paintwar
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by paintwar on Aug 4, 2023 11:16:50 GMT 1, Received mine and an absolute beauty. Has anyone else noticed some very visible marks, almost like scratches on their vase? I know being handmade you’re likely to have some markings. Avant Art did reply back saying it’s part of the process but it’s quite visible and on the front which is quite off putting. Cant figure out how to add pictures but feedback from anyone that’s received there’s would be good.
Received mine and an absolute beauty. Has anyone else noticed some very visible marks, almost like scratches on their vase? I know being handmade you’re likely to have some markings. Avant Art did reply back saying it’s part of the process but it’s quite visible and on the front which is quite off putting. Cant figure out how to add pictures but feedback from anyone that’s received there’s would be good.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by King and a Duck on Aug 4, 2023 11:23:15 GMT 1, Yeah mine has a couple of imperfections... nothing that ruins the look of it though. A couple of small bubbles within the glass and a small raised bit by the 'a' of cola.
Yeah mine has a couple of imperfections... nothing that ruins the look of it though. A couple of small bubbles within the glass and a small raised bit by the 'a' of cola.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by crassusstorm on Aug 4, 2023 12:02:05 GMT 1, Yes, I also contacted Avant Arte about small nicks - mine are on the base of the vase. I did wonder whether this was part of the handmade process. I was told that they had 'checked with our warehouse team, and these marks are part of the artist's process and the edition passed all of our quality checks!'...
Yes, I also contacted Avant Arte about small nicks - mine are on the base of the vase. I did wonder whether this was part of the handmade process. I was told that they had 'checked with our warehouse team, and these marks are part of the artist's process and the edition passed all of our quality checks!'...
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robo
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by robo on Aug 4, 2023 20:02:08 GMT 1, Hmm these shouldn’t have marks, nicks and “raised bits” ideally.
Hmm these shouldn’t have marks, nicks and “raised bits” ideally.
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nobokov
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by nobokov on Aug 4, 2023 20:07:59 GMT 1, Each scratch, nick, and crack makes it a unique original.
Each scratch, nick, and crack makes it a unique original.
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Londown 01
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Londown 01 on Aug 4, 2023 20:36:09 GMT 1, Each scratch, nick, and crack makes it a unique original. You mean these reflect the artist's original vision?
Each scratch, nick, and crack makes it a unique original. You mean these reflect the artist's original vision?
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Display_arts on Aug 4, 2023 20:37:50 GMT 1, It’s hand made and normal.
It’s hand made and normal.
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paintwar
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by paintwar on Aug 4, 2023 21:02:14 GMT 1, I’m all good with the odd bubble and small raised bits which i also have due to the hand made process as others have mentioned, but several 2-3 cm scratches shouldn’t surely pass the quality check.
I’m all good with the odd bubble and small raised bits which i also have due to the hand made process as others have mentioned, but several 2-3 cm scratches shouldn’t surely pass the quality check.
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shadowplay
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by shadowplay on Aug 4, 2023 21:09:04 GMT 1, I’m all good with the odd bubble and small raised bits which i also have due to the hand made process as others have mentioned, but several 2-3 cm scratches shouldn’t surely pass the quality check. I totally agree, this should have been rejected in the quality check. I would try and get a replacement. This reminds me of Mr. DOB edition by Takashi Murakami's.
I’m all good with the odd bubble and small raised bits which i also have due to the hand made process as others have mentioned, but several 2-3 cm scratches shouldn’t surely pass the quality check. I totally agree, this should have been rejected in the quality check. I would try and get a replacement. This reminds me of Mr. DOB edition by Takashi Murakami's.
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paintwar
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by paintwar on Aug 4, 2023 21:21:23 GMT 1, Does anyone else have anything similar? I have no idea what to call it, only that it certainly is more than just a small bubble or raised bit which mine also has
Does anyone else have anything similar? I have no idea what to call it, only that it certainly is more than just a small bubble or raised bit which mine also has
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Wanchope
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Wanchope on Aug 4, 2023 21:25:57 GMT 1, One of my friends sent me a pic of his and I must admit there were some proper nicks in the rim which none of us on another forum thought was right. I keep hearing about passing quality control, but surely if there are scratches or nicks in glass there is no way they should be passed? Normally avant arte are top draw with production. I will confess though that I have absolutely no clue to the glass making process.
One of my friends sent me a pic of his and I must admit there were some proper nicks in the rim which none of us on another forum thought was right. I keep hearing about passing quality control, but surely if there are scratches or nicks in glass there is no way they should be passed? Normally avant arte are top draw with production. I will confess though that I have absolutely no clue to the glass making process.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Art Admirer 93 on Aug 4, 2023 21:59:11 GMT 1, mine definitely has several small nicks and bubbles, but nothing too bad!
mine definitely has several small nicks and bubbles, but nothing too bad!
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by concrete jungle on Aug 4, 2023 22:13:36 GMT 1, Personal view is these aren’t mass produced machine made products - each is hand made, and will always have evidence of the nature of this sort of work. My vase has a couple of very minor marks that I’m definitely not worried about. To be honest I’d be more worried if there were no signs of the craftsman’s hand. I visited Murano (Venice) about 15 years ago and watched the skills involved - fully recommend a trip if you can make it. Some of the hand made chandeliers were truly amazing….
Personal view is these aren’t mass produced machine made products - each is hand made, and will always have evidence of the nature of this sort of work. My vase has a couple of very minor marks that I’m definitely not worried about. To be honest I’d be more worried if there were no signs of the craftsman’s hand. I visited Murano (Venice) about 15 years ago and watched the skills involved - fully recommend a trip if you can make it. Some of the hand made chandeliers were truly amazing….
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by King and a Duck on Aug 4, 2023 22:40:23 GMT 1,
Here are a couple of images of mine. I've circled the two minor flaws; one 'C" shaped raised bit (about 4mm long) and a tiny patch of distortion on the logo.
The rim is nice and smooth (make your own jokes). Google 'Murano glass flaws' and you'll see that a few minor flaws are actually a way of identifying a genuine murano piece.
Absolutely love mine. That said, up in the loft it goes until I can find some way to display it safely in good natural light. The colour is epic. Glad it changed from orange.
Here are a couple of images of mine. I've circled the two minor flaws; one 'C" shaped raised bit (about 4mm long) and a tiny patch of distortion on the logo. The rim is nice and smooth (make your own jokes). Google 'Murano glass flaws' and you'll see that a few minor flaws are actually a way of identifying a genuine murano piece. Absolutely love mine. That said, up in the loft it goes until I can find some way to display it safely in good natural light. The colour is epic. Glad it changed from orange.
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drbf
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by drbf on Aug 4, 2023 23:22:43 GMT 1, Each scratch, nick, and crack makes it a unique original. And I still have a bridge to sell that goes from NYC to Brooklyn!
Each scratch, nick, and crack makes it a unique original. And I still have a bridge to sell that goes from NYC to Brooklyn!
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jp
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by jp on Aug 4, 2023 23:28:54 GMT 1, Hmm these shouldn’t have marks, nicks and “raised bits” ideally. I agree. Where to draw the line is subjective though.
I've collected hand made ceramics (mostly clay) for about 7 years now and I can tell you that even small hairline cracks that are hardly visible get put into the "seconds" category by every artist I follow, and they do seconds sales a few times a year at a steep price discount.
I'm not sure where that line gets drawn with glass though. The glass covers I have for my walled off hotel pieces have a few very small bubbles, but you have to look close to see them.
If you can see the AWW imperfections from normal viewing distance, I feel they should be sold as seconds.
Hmm these shouldn’t have marks, nicks and “raised bits” ideally. I agree. Where to draw the line is subjective though. I've collected hand made ceramics (mostly clay) for about 7 years now and I can tell you that even small hairline cracks that are hardly visible get put into the "seconds" category by every artist I follow, and they do seconds sales a few times a year at a steep price discount. I'm not sure where that line gets drawn with glass though. The glass covers I have for my walled off hotel pieces have a few very small bubbles, but you have to look close to see them. If you can see the AWW imperfections from normal viewing distance, I feel they should be sold as seconds.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Arty Farty 15 on Aug 5, 2023 2:57:04 GMT 1, Ok ya little bitches I’ll buy all your scratched ones off you at cost and I’ll pay for postage.
Ok ya little bitches I’ll buy all your scratched ones off you at cost and I’ll pay for postage.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Jules Leotard on Aug 5, 2023 6:09:25 GMT 1, Are you sure that isn't an internal fracture? If you can get your hands on a magnifying glass, you can figure if it is internal or external.
They shouldn't have scratches on them. The only abrasion that should exist is the pontil mark in the center of the bottom where they 'snap' the glass from the blowpipe. Bubbles inside are acceptable. Scratches are from sloppy handling post-production.
Are you sure that isn't an internal fracture? If you can get your hands on a magnifying glass, you can figure if it is internal or external.
They shouldn't have scratches on them. The only abrasion that should exist is the pontil mark in the center of the bottom where they 'snap' the glass from the blowpipe. Bubbles inside are acceptable. Scratches are from sloppy handling post-production.
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robo
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by robo on Aug 5, 2023 6:21:35 GMT 1, Are you sure that isn't an internal fracture? If you can get your hands on a magnifying glass, you can figure if it is internal or external.
They shouldn't have scratches on them. The only abrasion that should exist is the pontil mark in the center of the bottom where they 'snap' the glass from the blowpipe. Bubbles inside are acceptable. Scratches are from sloppy handling post-production.
These are not blown, they’re cast.
Are you sure that isn't an internal fracture? If you can get your hands on a magnifying glass, you can figure if it is internal or external.
They shouldn't have scratches on them. The only abrasion that should exist is the pontil mark in the center of the bottom where they 'snap' the glass from the blowpipe. Bubbles inside are acceptable. Scratches are from sloppy handling post-production.
These are not blown, they’re cast.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by its all about me on Aug 5, 2023 13:06:20 GMT 1, I think people are being a bit anally retentive here. There will always be imperfections in hand made items, especially when it comes to glass. Ridges, slight scratches, bubbles etc; they all add to the hand made charm. If you want perfection, don't buy hand made things.
If anybody is having second thoughts, I will be happy to buy theirs off them. Retail plus 10%.
I think people are being a bit anally retentive here. There will always be imperfections in hand made items, especially when it comes to glass. Ridges, slight scratches, bubbles etc; they all add to the hand made charm. If you want perfection, don't buy hand made things.
If anybody is having second thoughts, I will be happy to buy theirs off them. Retail plus 10%.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Acme Thunderer on Aug 5, 2023 13:17:06 GMT 1, I checked the imperfections of this vase with Avant Arte and they said this is how Ai Weiwei intended this special version to be. This is the special ‘fragmented edition’ which is far rarer than those with complete vases.
I checked the imperfections of this vase with Avant Arte and they said this is how Ai Weiwei intended this special version to be. This is the special ‘fragmented edition’ which is far rarer than those with complete vases.
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paintwar
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by paintwar on Aug 5, 2023 14:00:32 GMT 1, Lucky for me i have several air bubbles, no issue there, it’s just the 2 x 3 cm very obvious lines/scratches on the front that I’m trying to establish if that’s part of the hand made process or not. No one else seems to have those kind of markings, which makes me think it shouldn’t of passed the quality control.
Lucky for me i have several air bubbles, no issue there, it’s just the 2 x 3 cm very obvious lines/scratches on the front that I’m trying to establish if that’s part of the hand made process or not. No one else seems to have those kind of markings, which makes me think it shouldn’t of passed the quality control.
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robo
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by robo on Aug 5, 2023 18:06:45 GMT 1, I checked the imperfections of this vase with Avant Arte and they said this is how Ai Weiwei intended this special version to be. This is the special ‘fragmented edition’ which is far rarer than those with complete vases. Where’s the photo from? Did you drop yours?!?! 😱
I checked the imperfections of this vase with Avant Arte and they said this is how Ai Weiwei intended this special version to be. This is the special ‘fragmented edition’ which is far rarer than those with complete vases. Where’s the photo from? Did you drop yours?!?! 😱
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samo
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by samo on Aug 5, 2023 20:42:30 GMT 1, I checked the imperfections of this vase with Avant Arte and they said this is how Ai Weiwei intended this special version to be. This is the special ‘fragmented edition’ which is far rarer than those with complete vases. Where’s the photo from? Did you drop yours?!?! 😱 Red vintage broken glass from Etsy… No worries, you can sleep well tonight.
I checked the imperfections of this vase with Avant Arte and they said this is how Ai Weiwei intended this special version to be. This is the special ‘fragmented edition’ which is far rarer than those with complete vases. Where’s the photo from? Did you drop yours?!?! 😱 Red vintage broken glass from Etsy… No worries, you can sleep well tonight.
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surf101
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by surf101 on Aug 5, 2023 21:17:01 GMT 1, Does anyone know what sort of prices the private sales are doing for these?
Does anyone know what sort of prices the private sales are doing for these?
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Wanchope
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Wanchope on Aug 5, 2023 21:42:49 GMT 1, Haven’t seen any for sale as they’ve only just started delivering. Not sure I want to see any for sale either as hopefully these have gone into collectors hands, not flippers.
Haven’t seen any for sale as they’ve only just started delivering. Not sure I want to see any for sale either as hopefully these have gone into collectors hands, not flippers.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Arty Farty 15 on Aug 5, 2023 21:47:02 GMT 1, Does anyone know what sort of prices the private sales are doing for these? I’m aware of a Mayfair gallery placing one of these with a collector for £12k
Does anyone know what sort of prices the private sales are doing for these? I’m aware of a Mayfair gallery placing one of these with a collector for £12k
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J0NNY
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by J0NNY on Aug 6, 2023 0:18:38 GMT 1, I heard of a small Russian arms dealer based in Bali moved one on for $175,000 US
I heard of a small Russian arms dealer based in Bali moved one on for $175,000 US
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