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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Arty Farty 15 on Apr 17, 2023 20:13:52 GMT 1, $500 above cost - fair offer but these will sell for ยฃ8k easily to a gallery let alone a big auction house. Itโs a great piece.
$500 above cost - fair offer but these will sell for ยฃ8k easily to a gallery let alone a big auction house. Itโs a great piece.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by avec art on Apr 17, 2023 20:21:27 GMT 1, I think that's called talking your book
I think that's called talking your book
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by gus on Apr 17, 2023 20:35:11 GMT 1, As someone that did not buy the vase and can thus not be talking his book I would buy one right now for twenty thousand of the dead queens finest sterlings. However, I am respectful of the 2 year non resale agreement and will thus not be able to do so... for now. We will look back on this ยฃ8k comment and wish we could buy it for such.
As someone that did not buy the vase and can thus not be talking his book I would buy one right now for twenty thousand of the dead queens finest sterlings. However, I am respectful of the 2 year non resale agreement and will thus not be able to do so... for now. We will look back on this ยฃ8k comment and wish we could buy it for such.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Londown 01 on Apr 17, 2023 21:16:24 GMT 1,
I seriously cannot tell who is joking and who is not.
I seriously cannot tell who is joking and who is not.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Charlie Bronson on Apr 17, 2023 21:19:19 GMT 1, Which flipper cares ? 2 year agreement is not existing, it's a blah blah rule.
Which flipper cares ? 2 year agreement is not existing, it's a blah blah rule. I remember that one Josh Sperling release a few years back that had the buyers sign a similar document. Iirc they were being flipped a week after. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Pawel on Apr 17, 2023 21:30:30 GMT 1, As someone that did not buy the vase and can thus not be talking his book I would buy one right now for twenty thousand of the dead queens finest sterlings. However, I am respectful of the 2 year non resale agreement and will thus not be able to do so... for now. We will look back on this ยฃ8k comment and wish we could buy it for such.
If any poor soul in Europe would be happy to let one for โฌ1800, dm me. This piece deserves a good home ๐
As someone that did not buy the vase and can thus not be talking his book I would buy one right now for twenty thousand of the dead queens finest sterlings. However, I am respectful of the 2 year non resale agreement and will thus not be able to do so... for now. We will look back on this ยฃ8k comment and wish we could buy it for such. Oh come on. It's not the buyer who breaks that non resale agreement. If any poor soul in Europe would be happy to let one for โฌ1800, dm me. This piece deserves a good home ๐ |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by gus on Apr 17, 2023 21:59:43 GMT 1, As someone that did not buy the vase and can thus not be talking his book I would buy one right now for twenty thousand of the dead queens finest sterlings. However, I am respectful of the 2 year non resale agreement and will thus not be able to do so... for now. We will look back on this ยฃ8k comment and wish we could buy it for such. Oh come on. It's not the buyer who breaks that non resale agreement. If any poor soul in Europe would be happy to let one for โฌ1800, dm me. This piece deserves a good home ๐
As someone that did not buy the vase and can thus not be talking his book I would buy one right now for twenty thousand of the dead queens finest sterlings. However, I am respectful of the 2 year non resale agreement and will thus not be able to do so... for now. We will look back on this ยฃ8k comment and wish we could buy it for such. Oh come on. It's not the buyer who breaks that non resale agreement. If any poor soul in Europe would be happy to let one for โฌ1800, dm me. This piece deserves a good home ๐ It isn't the buyer that breaks the non resale agreement but it is their demand that forces the poor seller to break it. Arguably the buyer is the more evil. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by 321- on Apr 17, 2023 22:05:00 GMT 1, Oh come on. It's not the buyer who breaks that non resale agreement. If any poor soul in Europe would be happy to let one for โฌ1800, dm me. This piece deserves a good home ๐ It isn't the buyer that breaks the non resale agreement but it is their demand that forces the poor seller to break it. Arguably the buyer is the more evil.
Oh come on. It's not the buyer who breaks that non resale agreement. If any poor soul in Europe would be happy to let one for โฌ1800, dm me. This piece deserves a good home ๐ It isn't the buyer that breaks the non resale agreement but it is their demand that forces the poor seller to break it. Arguably the buyer is the more evil. ๐ |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Pawel on Apr 17, 2023 22:06:27 GMT 1, Oh come on. It's not the buyer who breaks that non resale agreement. If any poor soul in Europe would be happy to let one for โฌ1800, dm me. This piece deserves a good home ๐ It isn't the buyer that breaks the non resale agreement but it is their demand that forces the poor seller to break it. Arguably the buyer is the more evil.
Oh come on. It's not the buyer who breaks that non resale agreement. If any poor soul in Europe would be happy to let one for โฌ1800, dm me. This piece deserves a good home ๐ It isn't the buyer that breaks the non resale agreement but it is their demand that forces the poor seller to break it. Arguably the buyer is the more evil. Nobody forces the sellers to sell. Provides the opportunity, yes. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by gus on Apr 17, 2023 22:12:39 GMT 1, It isn't the buyer that breaks the non resale agreement but it is their demand that forces the poor seller to break it. Arguably the buyer is the more evil. Nobody forces the sellers to sell. Provides the opportunity, yes.
It isn't the buyer that breaks the non resale agreement but it is their demand that forces the poor seller to break it. Arguably the buyer is the more evil. Nobody forces the sellers to sell. Provides the opportunity, yes. Bid enough and buyers are forcing anyone with a rational mind to sell. So no one on the forum so far, I'll give you that. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by 321- on Apr 18, 2023 6:56:13 GMT 1, Nobody forces the sellers to sell. Provides the opportunity, yes. Bid enough and buyers are forcing anyone with a rational mind to sell. So no one on the forum so far, I'll give you that.
That doesnโt make selling per se rational. Even more so during the agreed period. But what really bugs me is how much of this thread is about money, fomo and flipping. Got to a stock or crypto forum if you like discussing this stuff. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Nobody forces the sellers to sell. Provides the opportunity, yes. Bid enough and buyers are forcing anyone with a rational mind to sell. So no one on the forum so far, I'll give you that. That doesnโt make selling per se rational. Even more so during the agreed period. But what really bugs me is how much of this thread is about money, fomo and flipping. Got to a stock or crypto forum if you like discussing this stuff. ๐คทโโ๏ธ |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Londown 01 on Apr 18, 2023 7:46:01 GMT 1,
Yes.
It's saddening, but then it is what it is. My guess is that most people on here don't even have a clue about art, therefore only talk about the financial aspects.
When somebody tries to talk art (like Robo in this thread) it is usually ignored.
Yes. It's saddening, but then it is what it is. My guess is that most people on here don't even have a clue about art, therefore only talk about the financial aspects. When somebody tries to talk art (like Robo in this thread) it is usually ignored. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Charlie Bronson on Apr 18, 2023 7:52:17 GMT 1, Bid enough and buyers are forcing anyone with a rational mind to sell. So no one on the forum so far, I'll give you that. That doesnโt make selling per se rational. Even more so during the agreed period. But what really bugs me is how much of this thread is about money, fomo and flipping. Got to a stock or crypto forum if you like discussing this stuff. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Bid enough and buyers are forcing anyone with a rational mind to sell. So no one on the forum so far, I'll give you that. That doesnโt make selling per se rational. Even more so during the agreed period. But what really bugs me is how much of this thread is about money, fomo and flipping. Got to a stock or crypto forum if you like discussing this stuff. ๐คทโโ๏ธ Money, fomo and flipping always have been and always will be a part of art and a part of this forum. In my 25 years of collecting, Iโve bought dozens of pieces to flip, but always end up keeping them because I love art more than money. That being said, the two are intertwined. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Pawel on Apr 18, 2023 8:02:56 GMT 1, Yes. It's saddening, but then it is what it is. My guess is that most people on here don't even have a clue about art, therefore only talk about the financial aspects. When somebody tries to talk art (like Robo in this thread) it is usually ignored.
Most of the people here haven't seen the prints irl, so we discuss jpgs really.
We can share articles about how important coca-cola vases are, but that would probably increase Fomo...
Yes. It's saddening, but then it is what it is. My guess is that most people on here don't even have a clue about art, therefore only talk about the financial aspects. When somebody tries to talk art (like Robo in this thread) it is usually ignored. Money is the common denominator. Elon must be genius cause all the billions he has and so on... Most of the people here haven't seen the prints irl, so we discuss jpgs really. We can share articles about how important coca-cola vases are, but that would probably increase Fomo... |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by alberti on Apr 18, 2023 8:13:16 GMT 1, Yes. It's saddening, but then it is what it is. My guess is that most people on here don't even have a clue about art, therefore only talk about the financial aspects. When somebody tries to talk art (like Robo in this thread) it is usually ignored.
Yes. It's saddening, but then it is what it is. My guess is that most people on here don't even have a clue about art, therefore only talk about the financial aspects. When somebody tries to talk art (like Robo in this thread) it is usually ignored. Let alone discussing the message and/or action behind the art. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Arty Farty 15 on Apr 18, 2023 8:18:09 GMT 1, Yes. It's saddening, but then it is what it is. My guess is that most people on here don't even have a clue about art, therefore only talk about the financial aspects. When somebody tries to talk art (like Robo in this thread) it is usually ignored. Let alone discussing the message and/or action behind the art.
Discussing the message isnโt going to buy my next Rolex.
Yes. It's saddening, but then it is what it is. My guess is that most people on here don't even have a clue about art, therefore only talk about the financial aspects. When somebody tries to talk art (like Robo in this thread) it is usually ignored. Let alone discussing the message and/or action behind the art. Boring hell. Host a dinner party if you want to talk about the message behind the art. Whilst youโre at that snooze fest the rest of us will be spending our cold hard profits on strippers and narcotics. Discussing the message isnโt going to buy my next Rolex. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Georgie Poppit on Apr 18, 2023 8:20:23 GMT 1, The pros and cons of Avant Arte advertising on here is they may be hitting a large audience with money to spend on art which is great for sales. Problem is the majority, and I genuinely believe it is the majority of people on here are flippers and eBay traders with no interest in art at all.
The pros and cons of Avant Arte advertising on here is they may be hitting a large audience with money to spend on art which is great for sales. Problem is the majority, and I genuinely believe it is the majority of people on here are flippers and eBay traders with no interest in art at all.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Londown 01 on Apr 18, 2023 10:17:54 GMT 1, Let alone discussing the message and/or action behind the art. Discussing the message isnโt going to buy my next Rolex.
I'll weep for you
Let alone discussing the message and/or action behind the art. Discussing the message isnโt going to buy my next Rolex. I'll weep for you |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by alberti on Apr 18, 2023 13:41:59 GMT 1, Let alone discussing the message and/or action behind the art. Boring hell. Host a dinner party if you want to talk about the message behind the art. Whilst youโre at that snooze fest the rest of us will be spending our cold hard profits on strippers and narcotics. Discussing the message isnโt going to buy my next Rolex. 
Let alone discussing the message and/or action behind the art. Boring hell. Host a dinner party if you want to talk about the message behind the art. Whilst youโre at that snooze fest the rest of us will be spending our cold hard profits on strippers and narcotics. Discussing the message isnโt going to buy my next Rolex. Ahaha, if you wanna a Rolex, just don't spent your little money on strippers and narcotics |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by lukas01 on Apr 18, 2023 14:21:14 GMT 1, I'm selling a vase for ยฃ300,000.
ยฃ30k will go to Avantarte.com.
ยฃ30k will go to Ai Weiwei to allocate as he wishes.
ยฃ90k will remain with me to fund other artists and/or activism projects.
150k pounds will go to the Ship Louise Michel designed and built by Banksy.
Prepayment.
Thank you.
*if you want to sell, don't think only of yourself. if you do good in life, this good comes back to you.
*Kind customers are advised that the vase is not yet in my possession. in the event of a successful transaction and it is impossible to sell the vase, the sale will in any case be deemed to have taken place and nothing will be able to ask the buyer back.
I'm selling a vase for ยฃ300,000.
ยฃ30k will go to Avantarte.com.
ยฃ30k will go to Ai Weiwei to allocate as he wishes.
ยฃ90k will remain with me to fund other artists and/or activism projects.
150k pounds will go to the Ship Louise Michel designed and built by Banksy.
Prepayment.
Thank you.
*if you want to sell, don't think only of yourself. if you do good in life, this good comes back to you.
*Kind customers are advised that the vase is not yet in my possession. in the event of a successful transaction and it is impossible to sell the vase, the sale will in any case be deemed to have taken place and nothing will be able to ask the buyer back.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by gus on Apr 18, 2023 15:58:29 GMT 1, I too find it easy to be generous when role playing
anyway...
I find it curious that the crabs are the only glow in the dark part.
I too find it easy to be generous when role playing
anyway...
I find it curious that the crabs are the only glow in the dark part.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by King and a Duck on Apr 18, 2023 17:18:53 GMT 1, Just back from the Design Museum... the highlight for me was the lego Monet (only downside was it being tucked up next to another piece so that you couldn't really get a good look at it from a distance - as per the Monet's at the Orangerie in Paris).
Nice also to see the prints and vase in the shop. Anyone who got one will not be disappointed. Print quality and colours on the prints are some of the best I've seen and the vase is, as everyone is saying, the gem of the bunch.
Just back from the Design Museum... the highlight for me was the lego Monet (only downside was it being tucked up next to another piece so that you couldn't really get a good look at it from a distance - as per the Monet's at the Orangerie in Paris).
Nice also to see the prints and vase in the shop. Anyone who got one will not be disappointed. Print quality and colours on the prints are some of the best I've seen and the vase is, as everyone is saying, the gem of the bunch.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by robo on Apr 18, 2023 17:33:04 GMT 1, I too find it easy to be generous when role playing anyway... I find it curious that the crabs are the only glow in the dark part.
I reckon because day or night they a snapping at the heels of free speech.
I too find it easy to be generous when role playing anyway... I find it curious that the crabs are the only glow in the dark part. Me too. I reckon because day or night they a snapping at the heels of free speech. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by ubl on Apr 18, 2023 17:38:12 GMT 1, Just back from the Design Museum... the highlight for me was the lego Monet (only downside was it being tucked up next to another piece so that you couldn't really get a good look at it from a distance - as per the Monet's at the Orangerie in Paris). Nice also to see the prints and vase in the shop. Anyone who got one will not be disappointed. Print quality and colours on the prints are some of the best I've seen and the vase is, as everyone is saying, the gem of the bunch.
Just back from the Design Museum... the highlight for me was the lego Monet (only downside was it being tucked up next to another piece so that you couldn't really get a good look at it from a distance - as per the Monet's at the Orangerie in Paris). Nice also to see the prints and vase in the shop. Anyone who got one will not be disappointed. Print quality and colours on the prints are some of the best I've seen and the vase is, as everyone is saying, the gem of the bunch. Good to hear, look forward visiting as well. Do really like the vase as well. Very iconic. Anyone know if its hand signed, says: "artist's signature engraved on base". Apologies if this had been discussed already. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by King and a Duck on Apr 18, 2023 17:42:47 GMT 1, Just back from the Design Museum... the highlight for me was the lego Monet (only downside was it being tucked up next to another piece so that you couldn't really get a good look at it from a distance - as per the Monet's at the Orangerie in Paris). Nice also to see the prints and vase in the shop. Anyone who got one will not be disappointed. Print quality and colours on the prints are some of the best I've seen and the vase is, as everyone is saying, the gem of the bunch. Good to hear, look forward visiting as well. Do really like the vase as well. Very iconic. Anyone know if its hand signed, says: "artist's signature engraved on base". Apologies if this had been discussed already.
Not sure... intrigued to find out how that'll work.
Just back from the Design Museum... the highlight for me was the lego Monet (only downside was it being tucked up next to another piece so that you couldn't really get a good look at it from a distance - as per the Monet's at the Orangerie in Paris). Nice also to see the prints and vase in the shop. Anyone who got one will not be disappointed. Print quality and colours on the prints are some of the best I've seen and the vase is, as everyone is saying, the gem of the bunch. Good to hear, look forward visiting as well. Do really like the vase as well. Very iconic. Anyone know if its hand signed, says: "artist's signature engraved on base". Apologies if this had been discussed already. Not sure... intrigued to find out how that'll work. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Wenters on Apr 18, 2023 17:54:12 GMT 1,
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by pertikis on Apr 18, 2023 17:55:58 GMT 1, the description at the Design Museum said: "Artist's signature engraved on base"
the description at the Design Museum said: "Artist's signature engraved on base"
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by 321- on Apr 18, 2023 18:15:26 GMT 1, I too find it easy to be generous when role playing anyway... I find it curious that the crabs are the only glow in the dark part. Me too. I reckon because day or night they a snapping at the heels of free speech.
I too find it easy to be generous when role playing anyway... I find it curious that the crabs are the only glow in the dark part. Me too. I reckon because day or night they a snapping at the heels of free speech. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by elzerman on Apr 18, 2023 18:28:13 GMT 1, Just back from the Design Museum... the highlight for me was the lego Monet (only downside was it being tucked up next to another piece so that you couldn't really get a good look at it from a distance - as per the Monet's at the Orangerie in Paris). Nice also to see the prints and vase in the shop. Anyone who got one will not be disappointed. Print quality and colours on the prints are some of the best I've seen and the vase is, as everyone is saying, the gem of the bunch. Good to hear, look forward visiting as well. Do really like the vase as well. Very iconic. Anyone know if itโs hand signed, says: "artist's signature engraved on base". Apologies if this had been discussed already.
Just back from the Design Museum... the highlight for me was the lego Monet (only downside was it being tucked up next to another piece so that you couldn't really get a good look at it from a distance - as per the Monet's at the Orangerie in Paris). Nice also to see the prints and vase in the shop. Anyone who got one will not be disappointed. Print quality and colours on the prints are some of the best I've seen and the vase is, as everyone is saying, the gem of the bunch. Good to hear, look forward visiting as well. Do really like the vase as well. Very iconic. Anyone know if itโs hand signed, says: "artist's signature engraved on base". Apologies if this had been discussed already. Iโm assuming itโs engraved since thatโs what the description says. Also comes with a signed COA though. |
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by robo on Apr 18, 2023 19:18:56 GMT 1, Me too. I reckon because day or night they a snapping at the heels of free speech.
good spot!
Iโm reminded now that Ai Weiwei has used crabs to represent censorship in his works before. I think he did an installation with plastic toy crabs.
Me too. I reckon because day or night they a snapping at the heels of free speech. good spot! Iโm reminded now that Ai Weiwei has used crabs to represent censorship in his works before. I think he did an installation with plastic toy crabs. |
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