morleys
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For Sale: Original FAILE, by morleys on Apr 8, 2023 12:19:56 GMT 1, Hello,
I have an original Faile artwork on paper from the 2006 Portland show (91cm x 61cm).
The artwork is very nice with just a line on the top darker (see picture)
I'm from France and I can ship it flat and worldwide with a custom case.
Faile did an exhibition in Paris at the Magda Gallery in May 2017, and I took the opportunity to ask the organizer of the exhibition to ask them what they thought about it and here is their answer: "Yes it is am original work on canvas from 2006 from a show we did in Portland."
I put a link from the Portland 2006 Faile Show. The link comes from failforum where Iron, the moderator, helped me to find more informations about this artwork (lot of thanks ! ) : faileforum.proboards.com/thread/1771/faile-prints-fifty24-gallery-portland
The original sale price was 6000$. I'm open to offer !
Hello, I have an original Faile artwork on paper from the 2006 Portland show (91cm x 61cm). The artwork is very nice with just a line on the top darker (see picture) I'm from France and I can ship it flat and worldwide with a custom case. Faile did an exhibition in Paris at the Magda Gallery in May 2017, and I took the opportunity to ask the organizer of the exhibition to ask them what they thought about it and here is their answer: "Yes it is am original work on canvas from 2006 from a show we did in Portland." I put a link from the Portland 2006 Faile Show. The link comes from failforum where Iron, the moderator, helped me to find more informations about this artwork (lot of thanks ! ) : faileforum.proboards.com/thread/1771/faile-prints-fifty24-gallery-portlandThe original sale price was 6000$. I'm open to offer ! |
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For Sale: Original FAILE, by Peter Bengtsen on Apr 9, 2023 9:06:02 GMT 1, Hello, I have an original Faile artwork on paper from the 2006 Portland show (91cm x 61cm). The artwork is very nice with just a line on the top darker (see picture) I'm from France and I can ship it flat and worldwide with a custom case. Faile did an exhibition in Paris at the Magda Gallery in May 2017, and I took the opportunity to ask the organizer of the exhibition to ask them what they thought about it and here is their answer: "Yes it is am original work on canvas from 2006 from a show we did in Portland." I put a link from the Portland 2006 Faile Show. The link comes from failforum where Iron, the moderator, helped me to find more informations about this artwork (lot of thanks ! ) : faileforum.proboards.com/thread/1771/faile-prints-fifty24-gallery-portlandThe original sale price was 6000$. I'm open to offer !
Hello morleys , A couple of questions and comments regarding this piece. First, is the work you are selling on paper or canvas?
I ask because you state that it is on paper, but in the feedback you ostensibly got from Faile through a third party it is described as a canvas.
Second, are you sure the work you are selling was shown at Fifty 24PDX Gallery in Portland?
When looking through a video of Faile's 2006 exhibition, as well as photographic documentation on Faile's website, this work is claimed to have been a part of, I do not see it hanging on the wall:
Perhaps the work you are selling was created at the same time as the displayed works, but not actually exhibited?
[Note: there seems to be a part of the gallery space that is not shown in the video or photographs. It is possible the work was hung there. I find it a bit odd, however, that the documentation of the exhibition would not include all the works that were on display].
Third, are you claiming that the original price of this work from either Fifty 24PDX Gallery or Faile was 6000 USD?
I ask because, provided that this work is actually on paper, from memory these works were sold at a significantly lower price.
Hello, I have an original Faile artwork on paper from the 2006 Portland show (91cm x 61cm). The artwork is very nice with just a line on the top darker (see picture) I'm from France and I can ship it flat and worldwide with a custom case. Faile did an exhibition in Paris at the Magda Gallery in May 2017, and I took the opportunity to ask the organizer of the exhibition to ask them what they thought about it and here is their answer: "Yes it is am original work on canvas from 2006 from a show we did in Portland." I put a link from the Portland 2006 Faile Show. The link comes from failforum where Iron, the moderator, helped me to find more informations about this artwork (lot of thanks ! ) : faileforum.proboards.com/thread/1771/faile-prints-fifty24-gallery-portlandThe original sale price was 6000$. I'm open to offer ! Hello morleys , A couple of questions and comments regarding this piece. First, is the work you are selling on paper or canvas?
I ask because you state that it is on paper, but in the feedback you ostensibly got from Faile through a third party it is described as a canvas.
Second, are you sure the work you are selling was shown at Fifty 24PDX Gallery in Portland?
When looking through a video of Faile's 2006 exhibition, as well as photographic documentation on Faile's website, this work is claimed to have been a part of, I do not see it hanging on the wall:
Perhaps the work you are selling was created at the same time as the displayed works, but not actually exhibited?
[Note: there seems to be a part of the gallery space that is not shown in the video or photographs. It is possible the work was hung there. I find it a bit odd, however, that the documentation of the exhibition would not include all the works that were on display].
Third, are you claiming that the original price of this work from either Fifty 24PDX Gallery or Faile was 6000 USD?
I ask because, provided that this work is actually on paper, from memory these works were sold at a significantly lower price.
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motor
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For Sale: Original FAILE, by motor on Apr 9, 2023 20:45:06 GMT 1, My 5p
Peter Bengtsen
It is obvious it is on the paper.
morleys
You should probably get a more sound provenance than you have stated. I don't doubt the authenticity of the work. Stating that you might find that most buyers prefer to have some kind of physical confirmation from the gallery or the artist which in this case should not be a problem as Faile guys are known for validating these kind of works and also issuing COAs.
Peter Bengtsen
There were 9 similar pieces like this (with the silver spray paint backgrounds and pink and black silkscreens) made for the Fifty 24 PDX Portland show. I pretty sure there were all 9 shown just a bit unfortunate for the seller that it is not shown in that clip
here is link to the piece on web archive page
web.archive.org/web/20071213160347/http://www.faile.net/store/soldout.php?page=6
Also you can find the piece in the book
Faile Prints and Originals
page 188
I'd just assume the seller was quoting the price he purchased it for which would be much later than 2006.
The original price of these in 2006 was $1250 or $1500 ( I'm not 100% sure here which).
morleys
Also, I can see that it is stamped (red 2006) as it should be. Some were also blind stamped (faint stamp of Faile Dog in that corner). Is it?
Lastly, good luck with the sale.
My 5p Peter BengtsenIt is obvious it is on the paper. morleys You should probably get a more sound provenance than you have stated. I don't doubt the authenticity of the work. Stating that you might find that most buyers prefer to have some kind of physical confirmation from the gallery or the artist which in this case should not be a problem as Faile guys are known for validating these kind of works and also issuing COAs. Peter BengtsenThere were 9 similar pieces like this (with the silver spray paint backgrounds and pink and black silkscreens) made for the Fifty 24 PDX Portland show. I pretty sure there were all 9 shown just a bit unfortunate for the seller that it is not shown in that clip here is link to the piece on web archive page web.archive.org/web/20071213160347/http://www.faile.net/store/soldout.php?page=6Also you can find the piece in the book Faile Prints and Originals page 188 I'd just assume the seller was quoting the price he purchased it for which would be much later than 2006. The original price of these in 2006 was $1250 or $1500 ( I'm not 100% sure here which). morleys Also, I can see that it is stamped (red 2006) as it should be. Some were also blind stamped (faint stamp of Faile Dog in that corner). Is it? Lastly, good luck with the sale. |
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For Sale: Original FAILE, by Peter Bengtsen on Apr 10, 2023 10:21:05 GMT 1, My 5p Peter Bengtsen It is obvious it is on the paper. morleys You should probably get a more sound provenance than you have stated. I don't doubt the authenticity of the work. Stating that you might find that most buyers prefer to have some kind of physical confirmation from the gallery or the artist which in this case should not be a problem as Faile guys are known for validating these kind of works and also issuing COAs. Peter Bengtsen There were 9 similar pieces like this (with the silver spray paint backgrounds and pink and black silkscreens) made for the Fifty 24 PDX Portland show. I pretty sure there were all 9 shown just a bit unfortunate for the seller that it is not shown in that clip here is link to the piece on web archive page web.archive.org/web/20071213160347/http://www.faile.net/store/soldout.php?page=6Also you can find the piece in the book Faile Prints and Originals page 188 I'd just assume the seller was quoting the price he purchased it for which would be much later than 2006. The original price of these in 2006 was $1250 or $1500 ( I'm not 100% sure here which). morleys Also, I can see that it is stamped (red 2006) as it should be. Some were also blind stamped (faint stamp of Faile Dog in that corner). Is it? Lastly, good luck with the sale.
Hi motor , Yes, it is obvious that the images depict a work on paper. It is not clear, however, why Faile would ostensibly refer to it as a work on canvas. If I owned a work on paper, which I had paid 6000 USD for, and I then heard from Faile that it is a work on canvas, I would seek to clarify the discrepancy. Especially before trying to sell the work on. Rather than suggest that the depicted work is inauthentic, my questions and comments were meant to encourage morleys to seek out more information about the piece they seemingly possess and are looking to sell.
My 5p Peter Bengtsen It is obvious it is on the paper. morleys You should probably get a more sound provenance than you have stated. I don't doubt the authenticity of the work. Stating that you might find that most buyers prefer to have some kind of physical confirmation from the gallery or the artist which in this case should not be a problem as Faile guys are known for validating these kind of works and also issuing COAs. Peter Bengtsen There were 9 similar pieces like this (with the silver spray paint backgrounds and pink and black silkscreens) made for the Fifty 24 PDX Portland show. I pretty sure there were all 9 shown just a bit unfortunate for the seller that it is not shown in that clip here is link to the piece on web archive page web.archive.org/web/20071213160347/http://www.faile.net/store/soldout.php?page=6Also you can find the piece in the book Faile Prints and Originals page 188 I'd just assume the seller was quoting the price he purchased it for which would be much later than 2006. The original price of these in 2006 was $1250 or $1500 ( I'm not 100% sure here which). morleys Also, I can see that it is stamped (red 2006) as it should be. Some were also blind stamped (faint stamp of Faile Dog in that corner). Is it? Lastly, good luck with the sale. Hi motor , Yes, it is obvious that the images depict a work on paper. It is not clear, however, why Faile would ostensibly refer to it as a work on canvas. If I owned a work on paper, which I had paid 6000 USD for, and I then heard from Faile that it is a work on canvas, I would seek to clarify the discrepancy. Especially before trying to sell the work on. Rather than suggest that the depicted work is inauthentic, my questions and comments were meant to encourage morleys to seek out more information about the piece they seemingly possess and are looking to sell. |
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motor
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For Sale: Original FAILE, by motor on Apr 10, 2023 10:40:06 GMT 1, Hi motor , Yes, it is obvious that the images depict a work on paper. It is not clear, however, why Faile would ostensibly refer to it as a work on canvas. If I owned a work on paper, which I had paid 6000 USD for, and I then heard from Faile that it is a work on canvas, I would seek to clarify the discrepancy. Especially before trying to sell the work on. Rather than suggest that the depicted work is inauthentic, my questions and comments were meant to encourage morleys to seek out more information about the piece they seemingly possess and are looking to sell.
I know and absolutely agree with you. I too was just trying to help.
Probably details got lost in translation there, when describing the details and provenance, which definitely doesnโt help to sell as it creates more questions then answers.
Hi motor , Yes, it is obvious that the images depict a work on paper. It is not clear, however, why Faile would ostensibly refer to it as a work on canvas. If I owned a work on paper, which I had paid 6000 USD for, and I then heard from Faile that it is a work on canvas, I would seek to clarify the discrepancy. Especially before trying to sell the work on. Rather than suggest that the depicted work is inauthentic, my questions and comments were meant to encourage morleys to seek out more information about the piece they seemingly possess and are looking to sell. [/div] [/quote] I know and absolutely agree with you. I too was just trying to help. Probably details got lost in translation there, when describing the details and provenance, which definitely doesnโt help to sell as it creates more questions then answers. |
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pac
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For Sale: Original FAILE, by pac on Apr 10, 2023 16:29:04 GMT 1, My 5p Peter Bengtsen It is obvious it is on the paper. morleys You should probably get a more sound provenance than you have stated. I don't doubt the authenticity of the work. Stating that you might find that most buyers prefer to have some kind of physical confirmation from the gallery or the artist which in this case should not be a problem as Faile guys are known for validating these kind of works and also issuing COAs. Peter Bengtsen There were 9 similar pieces like this (with the silver spray paint backgrounds and pink and black silkscreens) made for the Fifty 24 PDX Portland show. I pretty sure there were all 9 shown just a bit unfortunate for the seller that it is not shown in that clip here is link to the piece on web archive page web.archive.org/web/20071213160347/http://www.faile.net/store/soldout.php?page=6Also you can find the piece in the book Faile Prints and Originals page 188 I'd just assume the seller was quoting the price he purchased it for which would be much later than 2006. The original price of these in 2006 was $1250 or $1500 ( I'm not 100% sure here which). morleys Also, I can see that it is stamped (red 2006) as it should be. Some were also blind stamped (faint stamp of Faile Dog in that corner). Is it? Lastly, good luck with the sale.
My 5p Peter Bengtsen It is obvious it is on the paper. morleys You should probably get a more sound provenance than you have stated. I don't doubt the authenticity of the work. Stating that you might find that most buyers prefer to have some kind of physical confirmation from the gallery or the artist which in this case should not be a problem as Faile guys are known for validating these kind of works and also issuing COAs. Peter Bengtsen There were 9 similar pieces like this (with the silver spray paint backgrounds and pink and black silkscreens) made for the Fifty 24 PDX Portland show. I pretty sure there were all 9 shown just a bit unfortunate for the seller that it is not shown in that clip here is link to the piece on web archive page web.archive.org/web/20071213160347/http://www.faile.net/store/soldout.php?page=6Also you can find the piece in the book Faile Prints and Originals page 188 I'd just assume the seller was quoting the price he purchased it for which would be much later than 2006. The original price of these in 2006 was $1250 or $1500 ( I'm not 100% sure here which). morleys Also, I can see that it is stamped (red 2006) as it should be. Some were also blind stamped (faint stamp of Faile Dog in that corner). Is it? Lastly, good luck with the sale. Thanks for posting the sold out link - really interesting to see. |
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For Sale: Original FAILE, by Greyhound on Apr 10, 2023 17:23:43 GMT 1, Thanks for posting the sold out link - really interesting to see.
Sadly I'm not in the market at all at the moment.
Good luck with the sale OP
Edit: Doh, it's just the sold out section of the Faile site. Just goes to show how absolutely on fire they were back then.
Thanks for posting the sold out link - really interesting to see. What a belter of a show that must have been. I'd happily have all of those pieces. Sadly I'm not in the market at all at the moment. Good luck with the sale OP Edit: Doh, it's just the sold out section of the Faile site. Just goes to show how absolutely on fire they were back then. |
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morleys
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For Sale: Original FAILE, by morleys on Apr 13, 2023 9:06:12 GMT 1, Hello everyone and sorry for the delay in answering, I was on vacation for Easter and I was a little away from the internet!
So I like the transparency, and I got this print through an auction. The original price I got on the Faile forum and not the price I paid.
I copied an old post that I had made on UAA in order to relaunch the sale of this work because I could not Bump it.
So I saw at the same times, that the Faile forum doesnt exist anymore.
For the "canvas", it's a bad traduction, because I had contacted the Danysz Gallery in Paris which was organizing a Faile show, with their presence, and I asked them to confirm or not that it was indeed an original of them, which they did, and it is the response translated into English from the gallery owner. The exhibition link: danyszgallery.com/fr/exhibitions/64-faile-meet-me-halfway/press_release_text/
So this works was executed on Paper and not Canvas.
I found a old email from the moderator of the site FaileForum :
"Sorry. I have been away.
As I said an original on paper.
It's not a collage. It is made to look like it through a series of silkscreened layers on a single sheet of paper (Faile description) plus some spraypaint in the background...
They should be signed but not all of them were. Looks solid.
I say around $8.500"
We can see some artworks from Portland : faile.net/site/gallery.php?i=5
But I want to confirm that this work has been authenticated by Faile in 2017 in Paris during the show at the gallery.
Hello everyone and sorry for the delay in answering, I was on vacation for Easter and I was a little away from the internet!
So I like the transparency, and I got this print through an auction. The original price I got on the Faile forum and not the price I paid.
I copied an old post that I had made on UAA in order to relaunch the sale of this work because I could not Bump it.
So I saw at the same times, that the Faile forum doesnt exist anymore.
For the "canvas", it's a bad traduction, because I had contacted the Danysz Gallery in Paris which was organizing a Faile show, with their presence, and I asked them to confirm or not that it was indeed an original of them, which they did, and it is the response translated into English from the gallery owner. The exhibition link: danyszgallery.com/fr/exhibitions/64-faile-meet-me-halfway/press_release_text/
So this works was executed on Paper and not Canvas.
I found a old email from the moderator of the site FaileForum :
"Sorry. I have been away.
As I said an original on paper.
It's not a collage. It is made to look like it through a series of silkscreened layers on a single sheet of paper (Faile description) plus some spraypaint in the background...
They should be signed but not all of them were. Looks solid.
I say around $8.500"
We can see some artworks from Portland : faile.net/site/gallery.php?i=5
But I want to confirm that this work has been authenticated by Faile in 2017 in Paris during the show at the gallery.
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