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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by The Origin on Feb 2, 2024 17:14:24 GMT 1, Will be interesting how many of these editions will be held back for the public release / lotto. They are completely transparent this year with the amount that will be available to public.
They updated the below on their website stating as such. I would imagine the vast majority will be placed in collections or offered to their supporters in the first instance.
โAs a result of this, the portion of an edition sold through pre-orders can vary widely. We will always communicate the minimum number of artworks available through the public allocation, whether by draw or on a first come first served basis, on the product page. For example, โEdition of 30, minimum 15 available by drawโ, or โEdition of 50, minimum 25 available on launch day.โโ
Will be interesting how many of these editions will be held back for the public release / lotto. They are completely transparent this year with the amount that will be available to public.
They updated the below on their website stating as such. I would imagine the vast majority will be placed in collections or offered to their supporters in the first instance.
โAs a result of this, the portion of an edition sold through pre-orders can vary widely. We will always communicate the minimum number of artworks available through the public allocation, whether by draw or on a first come first served basis, on the product page. For example, โEdition of 30, minimum 15 available by drawโ, or โEdition of 50, minimum 25 available on launch day.โโ
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by its all about me on Feb 2, 2024 17:24:30 GMT 1, If anyone is tempted to buy from the flipper on here, I would ask them to bear in mind the following points.
1. If AA hear about this (and they do read posts on here) they will probably cancel the guy's order. You will therefore be paying him for something he never actually receives anyway.
2. I remember reading in an interview that AA never sell all the editions in pre-sales. They always hold a few back for the official release date. In other words, you still have a chance to buy one at retail and from source. Don't waste your money.
3. You have absolutely no knowledge of the secondary price on these. You could easily end up paying the flipper a few thousand more than they actually sell for at auction. Flippers will inevitably hype the prices up but like the recent Invader prints from Heni, they end up selling at auction for far less than people imagine.
And, of course, you shouldn't be encouraging flippers anyway. We all lose out when flippers are around.
Just say no.
If anyone is tempted to buy from the flipper on here, I would ask them to bear in mind the following points.
1. If AA hear about this (and they do read posts on here) they will probably cancel the guy's order. You will therefore be paying him for something he never actually receives anyway.
2. I remember reading in an interview that AA never sell all the editions in pre-sales. They always hold a few back for the official release date. In other words, you still have a chance to buy one at retail and from source. Don't waste your money.
3. You have absolutely no knowledge of the secondary price on these. You could easily end up paying the flipper a few thousand more than they actually sell for at auction. Flippers will inevitably hype the prices up but like the recent Invader prints from Heni, they end up selling at auction for far less than people imagine.
And, of course, you shouldn't be encouraging flippers anyway. We all lose out when flippers are around.
Just say no.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Acme Thunderer on Feb 2, 2024 17:57:41 GMT 1, If anyone is tempted to buy from the flipper on here, I would ask them to bear in mind the following points. 1. If AA hear about this (and they do read posts on here) they will probably cancel the guy's order. You will therefore be paying him for something he never actually receives anyway. 2. I remember reading in an interview that AA never sell all the editions in pre-sales. They always hold a few back for the official release date. In other words, you still have a chance to buy one at retail and from source. Don't waste your money. 3. You have absolutely no knowledge of the secondary price on these. You could easily end up paying the flipper a few thousand more than they actually sell for at auction. Flippers will inevitably hype the prices up but like the recent Invader prints from Heni, they end up selling at auction for far less than people imagine. And, of course, you shouldn't be encouraging flippers anyway. We all lose out when flippers are around. Just say no.
If anyone is tempted to buy from the flipper on here, I would ask them to bear in mind the following points. 1. If AA hear about this (and they do read posts on here) they will probably cancel the guy's order. You will therefore be paying him for something he never actually receives anyway. 2. I remember reading in an interview that AA never sell all the editions in pre-sales. They always hold a few back for the official release date. In other words, you still have a chance to buy one at retail and from source. Don't waste your money. 3. You have absolutely no knowledge of the secondary price on these. You could easily end up paying the flipper a few thousand more than they actually sell for at auction. Flippers will inevitably hype the prices up but like the recent Invader prints from Heni, they end up selling at auction for far less than people imagine. And, of course, you shouldn't be encouraging flippers anyway. We all lose out when flippers are around. Just say no. For those of a certain age who are from the UK ๐ |
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by nobokov on Feb 2, 2024 17:58:04 GMT 1, "Only true art lovers purchase art on the secondary market at astronomical prices. The rest are flippers. " Damion Hurst
"Only true art lovers purchase art on the secondary market at astronomical prices. The rest are flippers. " Damion Hurst
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Black Wolf on Feb 2, 2024 18:07:05 GMT 1, "Only true art lovers purchase art on the secondary market at astronomical prices. The rest are flippers. " Damion Hurst
"Only true art lovers purchase art on the secondary market at astronomical prices. The rest are flippers. " Damion Hurst I guess Damien Hirst is a true art lover! That guy even pays for his own stuff at auction! |
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Pawel on Feb 7, 2024 12:50:20 GMT 1, "The price of everything" documentary. Recommended watch, shows how he works and describes his process.
Not sure if it won't be blocked in some of the countries, plus it's with Polish subtitles:
ninateka.pl/vod/dokument/cena-wszystkiego-nathaniel-kahn/
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by london on Feb 7, 2024 13:08:56 GMT 1, Hello, late to the party but how do I order these? I canโt seen them on the scent Arte website?
Hello, late to the party but how do I order these? I canโt seen them on the scent Arte website?
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by The Origin on Feb 7, 2024 13:41:58 GMT 1, Hello, late to the party but how do I order these? I canโt seen them on the scent Arte website?
You can contact Avant Arte direct to enquire re pre-ordering a print. Some people have had phone calls scheduled with the AA team to discuss that side of things further.
Hello, late to the party but how do I order these? I canโt seen them on the scent Arte website? They are not releasing until next month and likely via a lottery system due to demand. You can contact Avant Arte direct to enquire re pre-ordering a print. Some people have had phone calls scheduled with the AA team to discuss that side of things further. |
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by rbt on Feb 7, 2024 15:55:30 GMT 1, I did an Artsy search for prices of 6K or less and it came up with 40 artworks. I did not click on all of them but admittedly, they do seem to be unsigned. www.artsy.net/artist/george-condo?price_range=100-6000Someone posted a screenshot of the AA site which didn't seem to mention "hand signed". No doubt they are signed but I think people should double check as Condo has issue unsigned prints in the past. But yeah, I'm not suggesting 6K is a bad price. And, of course, you can hardly compare retail with secondary really anyway. Most of those sub $6K "prints" are small offset prints from a box of 10 that were free giveaways from the VIP version of Skarstedt Gallery's "Drawing Paintings" publication. They're what you buy in a museum gift shop, small prints, not signed, not numbered, stamped on the back, and not worth more than $10 each. www.skarstedt.com/publications/george-condo3
Here it isโฆthis is โworthโ $100: www.ragoarts.com/auctions/2024/02/design-life-the-benjamin-pardo-and-david-gresham-collection/162
I did an Artsy search for prices of 6K or less and it came up with 40 artworks. I did not click on all of them but admittedly, they do seem to be unsigned. www.artsy.net/artist/george-condo?price_range=100-6000Someone posted a screenshot of the AA site which didn't seem to mention "hand signed". No doubt they are signed but I think people should double check as Condo has issue unsigned prints in the past. But yeah, I'm not suggesting 6K is a bad price. And, of course, you can hardly compare retail with secondary really anyway. Most of those sub $6K "prints" are small offset prints from a box of 10 that were free giveaways from the VIP version of Skarstedt Gallery's "Drawing Paintings" publication. They're what you buy in a museum gift shop, small prints, not signed, not numbered, stamped on the back, and not worth more than $10 each. www.skarstedt.com/publications/george-condo3Here it isโฆthis is โworthโ $100: www.ragoarts.com/auctions/2024/02/design-life-the-benjamin-pardo-and-david-gresham-collection/162 |
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Wanchope on Feb 7, 2024 21:05:10 GMT 1, This is a set of little unsigned lithographs and an edition of 400 right? Not sure what the point is? Nice images though
This is a set of little unsigned lithographs and an edition of 400 right? Not sure what the point is? Nice images though
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Pawel on Feb 7, 2024 21:11:48 GMT 1, ninateka.pl/vod/dokument/cena-wszystkiego-nathaniel-kahn/
Original title, the price of everything. A couple of scenes with him painting.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by alibertine on Feb 8, 2024 7:55:05 GMT 1, Man I no nothing about art work but this looks shit hot
Man I no nothing about art work but this looks shit hot
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Sunny Garcia on Feb 8, 2024 14:16:31 GMT 1, Any word on a release announcement date?
Any word on a release announcement date?
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by rbt on Feb 8, 2024 14:42:00 GMT 1, I heard March 20.
Someone posted all 3 are almost sold out through presales. No more presales and a few held back for possible lottery entry for launch.
I heard March 20.
Someone posted all 3 are almost sold out through presales. No more presales and a few held back for possible lottery entry for launch.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by thisisthesam on Feb 8, 2024 15:41:13 GMT 1, I also believe it's March 20.
Not heard anything off the back of my meeting so assume I'm out the running.
Props to whoever does snag it; just make sure it ends up on a wall somewhere, although let's be real, most of them will probably end up in auctions, haha.
I also believe it's March 20.
Not heard anything off the back of my meeting so assume I'm out the running.
Props to whoever does snag it; just make sure it ends up on a wall somewhere, although let's be real, most of them will probably end up in auctions, haha.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by ignition0 on Feb 8, 2024 16:07:44 GMT 1, Interesting. I heard that the pre-sales are ongoing as there are 400+ to sort so I guess itโs the usual rumour mill.
Interesting. I heard that the pre-sales are ongoing as there are 400+ to sort so I guess itโs the usual rumour mill.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by kawsect on Feb 8, 2024 20:48:59 GMT 1, Had a call. No indication that preorders are done. Weโll see what happens.
Had a call. No indication that preorders are done. Weโll see what happens.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by LJCal on Feb 8, 2024 21:07:09 GMT 1, These haven't all been allocated, please tell me people aren't trying to flip already? That's really not smart especially on here, someone will quite happily grass you up to take your allocation. On these the smart money will hold onto them, inevitably dozens will come to market in next year or two, need to wait until all the ones being flipped are absorbed into stable collections (which they will be).
These haven't all been allocated, please tell me people aren't trying to flip already? That's really not smart especially on here, someone will quite happily grass you up to take your allocation. On these the smart money will hold onto them, inevitably dozens will come to market in next year or two, need to wait until all the ones being flipped are absorbed into stable collections (which they will be).
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by alibertine on Feb 9, 2024 0:17:16 GMT 1, Inspiring, yes I like the idea - maybe next level shโt would be conscious recall through groups in subject of a chapter - very rock n roll. Page 17 uaa 8224
Inspiring, yes I like the idea - maybe next level shโt would be conscious recall through groups in subject of a chapter - very rock n roll. Page 17 uaa 8224
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by LJCal on Feb 9, 2024 7:19:07 GMT 1, If anyone is tempted to buy from the flipper on here, I would ask them to bear in mind the following points. 1. If AA hear about this (and they do read posts on here) they will probably cancel the guy's order. You will therefore be paying him for something he never actually receives anyway. 2. I remember reading in an interview that AA never sell all the editions in pre-sales. They always hold a few back for the official release date. In other words, you still have a chance to buy one at retail and from source. Don't waste your money. 3. You have absolutely no knowledge of the secondary price on these. You could easily end up paying the flipper a few thousand more than they actually sell for at auction. Flippers will inevitably hype the prices up but like the recent Invader prints from Heni, they end up selling at auction for far less than people imagine. And, of course, you shouldn't be encouraging flippers anyway. We all lose out when flippers are around. Just say no.
If anyone is tempted to buy from the flipper on here, I would ask them to bear in mind the following points. 1. If AA hear about this (and they do read posts on here) they will probably cancel the guy's order. You will therefore be paying him for something he never actually receives anyway. 2. I remember reading in an interview that AA never sell all the editions in pre-sales. They always hold a few back for the official release date. In other words, you still have a chance to buy one at retail and from source. Don't waste your money. 3. You have absolutely no knowledge of the secondary price on these. You could easily end up paying the flipper a few thousand more than they actually sell for at auction. Flippers will inevitably hype the prices up but like the recent Invader prints from Heni, they end up selling at auction for far less than people imagine. And, of course, you shouldn't be encouraging flippers anyway. We all lose out when flippers are around. Just say no. Whilst I agree with the sentiment and the bulk of your comments, these wonโt go the way of the Heni Invaders (or most other recent drops) and I highly doubt anyone will be buying these below primary prices. Not trying to hype (I still havenโt even got an allocation yet), but thatโs just how I see it. It may be that the mark up is not massive for flips as AA releases do get quite heavily traded early on, and whilst I agree that no one should be taking a turn yet, after the drop if you miss out and get offered one for a modest premium itโs probably worth it especially if youโre planning to hold. |
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Black Wolf on Feb 9, 2024 9:54:28 GMT 1, the flipper trying to flip wont even give a price on what hes after 
the flipper trying to flip wont even give a price on what hes after |
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by keyser on Feb 9, 2024 10:51:28 GMT 1, I've bought a few things from AA over the years and got offered a phone call. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't really like the idea of being vetted for the chance to give thousands of pounds to a company so I skipped it. All feels very pretentious. I can understand why they are doing it but the majority of flippers and bedroom dealers are savvy enough to pretend to have a passion for art and talk shit on a phone call for 15 minutes.
I've bought a few things from AA over the years and got offered a phone call. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't really like the idea of being vetted for the chance to give thousands of pounds to a company so I skipped it. All feels very pretentious. I can understand why they are doing it but the majority of flippers and bedroom dealers are savvy enough to pretend to have a passion for art and talk shit on a phone call for 15 minutes.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Georgie Poppit on Feb 9, 2024 10:56:29 GMT 1, Iโm sure they can gauge in a call what they need to know to make a decision. Whatโs in your collection? What are the last 5 shows you went to? That should do it.
Iโm sure they can gauge in a call what they need to know to make a decision. Whatโs in your collection? What are the last 5 shows you went to? That should do it.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by its all about me on Feb 9, 2024 13:57:31 GMT 1, I've bought a few things from AA over the years and got offered a phone call. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't really like the idea of being vetted for the chance to give thousands of pounds to a company so I skipped it. All feels very pretentious. I can understand why they are doing it but the majority of flippers and bedroom dealers are savvy enough to pretend to have a passion for art and talk shit on a phone call for 15 minutes.
I've bought a few things from AA over the years and got offered a phone call. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't really like the idea of being vetted for the chance to give thousands of pounds to a company so I skipped it. All feels very pretentious. I can understand why they are doing it but the majority of flippers and bedroom dealers are savvy enough to pretend to have a passion for art and talk shit on a phone call for 15 minutes. I agree. I don't like the idea of being questioned over the phone before they allow me to spend 6K. They obviously want to try and filter out the flippers which is commendable but, as this site has already demonstrated, they have failed. |
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by drip on Feb 9, 2024 14:04:53 GMT 1, I wonder if they'll be recording the calls.
I wonder if they'll be recording the calls.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 9, 2024 14:08:53 GMT 1, I was more than happy to have a phone call to discuss my art interests, but when they started asking me to send pictures of my feet, I wasn't having any of it...
They can keep their condo print the dirty perverts...
I was more than happy to have a phone call to discuss my art interests, but when they started asking me to send pictures of my feet, I wasn't having any of it...
They can keep their condo print the dirty perverts...
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by drip on Feb 9, 2024 14:21:37 GMT 1, They should have Condo himself on the other end of the line. Make people lie to his face.
They should have Condo himself on the other end of the line. Make people lie to his face.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by drip on Feb 9, 2024 14:24:19 GMT 1, I was more than happy to have a phone call to discuss my art interests, but when they started asking me to send pictures of my feet, I wasn't having any of it... They can keep their condo print the dirty perverts...
I was more than happy to have a phone call to discuss my art interests, but when they started asking me to send pictures of my feet, I wasn't having any of it... They can keep their condo print the dirty perverts... I did that to get a RAE original a few years back. I dread to think what I'd do for a Condo. Take pictures of his feet or something. |
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Manty on Feb 9, 2024 14:33:15 GMT 1,
Maybe that is part of the reason to have the phone conversation with people. Prior to this, was there any control who got the stuff? look at the Weiwei 2 year resale, lots are around for sale.
There are 450 of the Condos, I am sure it would be much easier for them to just list them for sale and have a free for all. Would that be good for them on the artist long term?
I quite like the idea of the phone call, its good to talk!
Maybe that is part of the reason to have the phone conversation with people. Prior to this, was there any control who got the stuff? look at the Weiwei 2 year resale, lots are around for sale. There are 450 of the Condos, I am sure it would be much easier for them to just list them for sale and have a free for all. Would that be good for them on the artist long term? I quite like the idea of the phone call, its good to talk! |
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by brule on Feb 9, 2024 14:56:55 GMT 1, I memorized the Condo Wikipedia article and recited that on the call. Hope itโs enough.
I memorized the Condo Wikipedia article and recited that on the call. Hope itโs enough.
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