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Devizes /\_/\
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Wonder if witchcrafter will go after this with the same energy as love is in the bin? |
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Interesting! , by Pete the Post on Mar 19, 2024 14:37:15 GMT 1, Wonder if witchcrafter will go after this with the same energy as love is in the bin?
Wonder if witchcrafter will go after this with the same energy as love is in the bin? Im no fan of JPS or his Mrs. But if this place keeps baiting her, she may be pushed over the edge. This is an obsession for them now, and that is in no way a healthy thing. Possibly better to ignore it now unless you fancy dealing with that responsibility.(by which i mean us all! i did my fair share too! its not just "sport" anymore though, its getting too serious) |
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Interesting! , by Happy Shopper on Mar 19, 2024 14:46:16 GMT 1, In my opinion it's fine for him to update existing pieces if they've been damaged or decomposed, but he seems to have crossed a line here. Dating new pieces to appear older, and presumably charging more for them!?
I wonder if he can prove they were concepted in the 90s, with sketches, etc?
In my opinion it's fine for him to update existing pieces if they've been damaged or decomposed, but he seems to have crossed a line here. Dating new pieces to appear older, and presumably charging more for them!?
I wonder if he can prove they were concepted in the 90s, with sketches, etc?
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Interesting! , by loui on Mar 19, 2024 14:49:51 GMT 1, In my opinion it's fine for him to update existing pieces if they've been damaged or decomposed, but he seems to have crossed a line here. Dating new pieces to appear older, and presumably charging more for them!? I wonder if he can prove they were concepted in the 90s, with sketches, etc?
In my opinion it's fine for him to update existing pieces if they've been damaged or decomposed, but he seems to have crossed a line here. Dating new pieces to appear older, and presumably charging more for them!? I wonder if he can prove they were concepted in the 90s, with sketches, etc? I wonder who cares about Hirst and his pieces in the first place ;-) |
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Interesting! , by LJCal on Mar 19, 2024 15:15:01 GMT 1, I mean itโs a dead animal in a tank, who gives a shit? Slow news day for the Guardian.
I mean itโs a dead animal in a tank, who gives a shit? Slow news day for the Guardian.
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Interesting! , by Georgie Poppit on Mar 19, 2024 15:22:40 GMT 1, Pretty sure the Banksy GWB artist proof colourways were printed later then backdated along with his old style signature.
Pretty sure the Banksy GWB artist proof colourways were printed later then backdated along with his old style signature.
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topper
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Interesting! , by topper on Mar 19, 2024 15:32:31 GMT 1, The thing with these stories is, who's interest are they in?
Action houses, no interest. Artists, no interest. Owners, no interest. Police, no interest.
Nobody care except a few obsessive date collectors.
The thing with these stories is, who's interest are they in?
Action houses, no interest. Artists, no interest. Owners, no interest. Police, no interest.
Nobody care except a few obsessive date collectors.
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Interesting! , by Happy Shopper on Mar 19, 2024 15:35:03 GMT 1, The thing with these stories is, who's interest are they in? Action houses, no interest. Artists, no interest. Owners, no interest. Police, no interest. Nobody care except a few obsessive date collectors.
I'd assume a collector, paying top dollar for a "classic" 90s Hirst, would be interested that their piece is not actually from the 90s.
The thing with these stories is, who's interest are they in? Action houses, no interest. Artists, no interest. Owners, no interest. Police, no interest. Nobody care except a few obsessive date collectors. I'd assume a collector, paying top dollar for a "classic" 90s Hirst, would be interested that their piece is not actually from the 90s. |
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Interesting! , by topper on Mar 19, 2024 16:49:18 GMT 1, The thing with these stories is, who's interest are they in? Action houses, no interest. Artists, no interest. Owners, no interest. Police, no interest. Nobody care except a few obsessive date collectors. I'd assume a collector, paying top dollar for a "classic" 90s Hirst, would be interested that their piece is not actually from the 90s.
The thing with these stories is, who's interest are they in? Action houses, no interest. Artists, no interest. Owners, no interest. Police, no interest. Nobody care except a few obsessive date collectors. I'd assume a collector, paying top dollar for a "classic" 90s Hirst, would be interested that their piece is not actually from the 90s. Not if it devalued their piece, they wouldn't. They would be quite happy with the provenance from the artist saying it's a 90's classic. |
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Interesting! , by Happy Shopper on Mar 19, 2024 16:59:16 GMT 1, I'd assume a collector, paying top dollar for a "classic" 90s Hirst, would be interested that their piece is not actually from the 90s. Not if it devalued their piece, they wouldn't. They would be quite happy with the provenance from the artist saying it's a 90's classic.
That's a different question I suppose. Whether they'd like to know the truth, or stay happy in their ignorance.
Maybe they can get their money back, if they feel cheated!?
I'd assume a collector, paying top dollar for a "classic" 90s Hirst, would be interested that their piece is not actually from the 90s. Not if it devalued their piece, they wouldn't. They would be quite happy with the provenance from the artist saying it's a 90's classic. That's a different question I suppose. Whether they'd like to know the truth, or stay happy in their ignorance. Maybe they can get their money back, if they feel cheated!? |
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Interesting! , by Sixty Bells on Mar 19, 2024 17:24:52 GMT 1, I feel for the editor that gave their reporter a Guardian credit card to investigate this story.
They were clearly hoping for a bit more bang for their buck.
I feel for the editor that gave their reporter a Guardian credit card to investigate this story.
They were clearly hoping for a bit more bang for their buck.
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Interesting! , by Arty Farty 15 on Mar 19, 2024 18:35:06 GMT 1, Itโs quite obvious too that The Currency pieces were not created in 2016 either
Itโs quite obvious too that The Currency pieces were not created in 2016 either
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Thank You
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Interesting! , by Thank You on Mar 20, 2024 3:55:12 GMT 1, With this level of deceptive behavior, imagine how many artworks are truly โsigned.โ
With this level of deceptive behavior, imagine how many artworks are truly โsigned.โ
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LJCal
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Interesting! , by LJCal on Mar 20, 2024 8:02:05 GMT 1, Hirst works from the 90s are more sought after but let's face it most of the animals in formaldehyde start falling to pieces after decades, it's not like any of it is crafted by his hand, and i've heard collectors have had animals replaced when they started decolouring or decomposing, essentially the whole piece is refabricated, should these be given new dates or new titles?
Hirst works from the 90s are more sought after but let's face it most of the animals in formaldehyde start falling to pieces after decades, it's not like any of it is crafted by his hand, and i've heard collectors have had animals replaced when they started decolouring or decomposing, essentially the whole piece is refabricated, should these be given new dates or new titles?
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Interesting! , by LJCal on Mar 20, 2024 8:11:24 GMT 1, www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/arts/design/01voge.html
I think based on this article there is certainly merit in terms of dating the work from when it was conceived, given it may be replaced at a later date. Whether he truly conceived of the works in question in the 90s only he knows I suppose, certainly the general concept started then, if I were a betting man I doubt he would have had specific plans for these works.
www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/arts/design/01voge.htmlI think based on this article there is certainly merit in terms of dating the work from when it was conceived, given it may be replaced at a later date. Whether he truly conceived of the works in question in the 90s only he knows I suppose, certainly the general concept started then, if I were a betting man I doubt he would have had specific plans for these works.
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Interesting! , by its all about me on Mar 20, 2024 13:19:01 GMT 1, Hirst works from the 90s are more sought after but let's face it most of the animals in formaldehyde start falling to pieces after decades, it's not like any of it is crafted by his hand, and i've heard collectors have had animals replaced when they started decolouring or decomposing, essentially the whole piece is refabricated, should these be given new dates or new titles?
Hirst works from the 90s are more sought after but let's face it most of the animals in formaldehyde start falling to pieces after decades, it's not like any of it is crafted by his hand, and i've heard collectors have had animals replaced when they started decolouring or decomposing, essentially the whole piece is refabricated, should these be given new dates or new titles? Talking of animals 'falling to pieces' I have a couple of early words by Polly Morgan. They too have decomposed and are gradually ending up as dust. I'm quite disappointed. |
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Interesting! , by Fluffy Pillow on Mar 20, 2024 14:39:12 GMT 1, Hirst works from the 90s are more sought after but let's face it most of the animals in formaldehyde start falling to pieces after decades, it's not like any of it is crafted by his hand, and i've heard collectors have had animals replaced when they started decolouring or decomposing, essentially the whole piece is refabricated, should these be given new dates or new titles? Talking of animals 'falling to pieces' I have a couple of early words by Polly Morgan. They too have decomposed and are gradually ending up as dust. I'm quite disappointed.
I picture you have the full size elk sprawled out in your entry room and a bell jar of the colorful birds ravaging the innards of another on your nightstand.. 
Hirst works from the 90s are more sought after but let's face it most of the animals in formaldehyde start falling to pieces after decades, it's not like any of it is crafted by his hand, and i've heard collectors have had animals replaced when they started decolouring or decomposing, essentially the whole piece is refabricated, should these be given new dates or new titles? Talking of animals 'falling to pieces' I have a couple of early words by Polly Morgan. They too have decomposed and are gradually ending up as dust. I'm quite disappointed. I picture you have the full size elk sprawled out in your entry room and a bell jar of the colorful birds ravaging the innards of another on your nightstand.. |
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Interesting! , by its all about me on Mar 20, 2024 14:58:07 GMT 1, Talking of animals 'falling to pieces' I have a couple of early words by Polly Morgan. They too have decomposed and are gradually ending up as dust. I'm quite disappointed. I picture you have the full size elk sprawled out in your entry room and a bell jar of the colorful birds ravaging the innards of another on your nightstand..
Talking of animals 'falling to pieces' I have a couple of early words by Polly Morgan. They too have decomposed and are gradually ending up as dust. I'm quite disappointed. I picture you have the full size elk sprawled out in your entry room and a bell jar of the colorful birds ravaging the innards of another on your nightstand.. l'd love to be able to say 'yes' to this but, sadly, no. |
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Interesting! , by ubl on Mar 29, 2024 14:31:27 GMT 1, He's such a plonker really.
He's such a plonker really.
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