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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by storm breaker on Jun 14, 2024 16:11:35 GMT 1, As title
Banksy
I hate Mondays
The Village Pet Store and Grill business card
ยฃ75 plus postage and fees
As title Banksy I hate Mondays The Village Pet Store and Grill business card ยฃ75 plus postage and fees |
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 14, 2024 17:22:20 GMT 1, But how can we be sure it's genuine, Stormbreaker?
But how can we be sure it's genuine, Stormbreaker?
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by Lroy on Jun 15, 2024 8:22:32 GMT 1, But how can we be sure it's genuine, Stormbreaker?
Itโs a real one : I mean why people would make fakes of these for a few followers or collectors of this kind of memorabilia?! Thatโs what I donโt understand, all these goodies at such a price : I gave mine to Agent Provocateur
But how can we be sure it's genuine, Stormbreaker? Itโs a real one : I mean why people would make fakes of these for a few followers or collectors of this kind of memorabilia?! Thatโs what I donโt understand, all these goodies at such a price : I gave mine to Agent Provocateur |
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 15, 2024 18:19:03 GMT 1, But there's really no way to know, is there? Banksy has a huge following, so there's always a market for "cheap" ephemera for people who don't know better. I mean, just type Banksy in ebay and you'll get all sorts of stuff coming up. So at the end of the day, it's caveat emptor.
But there's really no way to know, is there? Banksy has a huge following, so there's always a market for "cheap" ephemera for people who don't know better. I mean, just type Banksy in ebay and you'll get all sorts of stuff coming up. So at the end of the day, it's caveat emptor.
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 15, 2024 18:21:04 GMT 1, I mean, I'll take one for free (and you're very generous to give it to a friend). But when it comes to money, perhaps a certain caution might be warranted.
I mean, I'll take one for free (and you're very generous to give it to a friend). But when it comes to money, perhaps a certain caution might be warranted.
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by storm breaker on Jun 15, 2024 18:41:24 GMT 1, Jog on abc I'm hardly going to be retiring to the Seychelles selling an old banksy business card for ยฃ75.
Clearly you have an issue with me as I questioned your advertising of an artsy auction on here for an auction company nobody had heard of yet miraculously has over 13k following on Instagram even before it's first auction. Interesting that you never responded when I asked if the auction anything to do with you.
Jog on abc I'm hardly going to be retiring to the Seychelles selling an old banksy business card for ยฃ75. Clearly you have an issue with me as I questioned your advertising of an artsy auction on here for an auction company nobody had heard of yet miraculously has over 13k following on Instagram even before it's first auction. Interesting that you never responded when I asked if the auction anything to do with you. |
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by loui on Jun 15, 2024 18:59:07 GMT 1, As title Banksy I hate Mondays The Village Pet Store and Grill business card ยฃ75 plus postage and fees
As title Banksy I hate Mondays The Village Pet Store and Grill business card ยฃ75 plus postage and fees What is the size of this business card? |
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by storm breaker on Jun 15, 2024 19:25:20 GMT 1, 3.5 x 2 inch
3.5 x 2 inch
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by Adam The Collector on Jun 15, 2024 19:39:54 GMT 1, Wonderfully depressing
Wonderfully depressing
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 16, 2024 0:35:02 GMT 1, Stormbreaker, it seems that you're the one who can't seem to take it when the shoe is on the other foot.
I don't have a problem with you questioning my earlier auction post because you had an interesting viewpoint which I think deserved to be aired. However, when I question your post regarding the authenticity of what you're selling, you resort to personal attacks towards me.
Perhaps you should be more professional and maybe try to respond to my question: how can we be sure the card you're selling is authentic? Did you get them from Banksy himself? Authenticity might not be important to you, but as a COLLECTOR, this is rather important; it also goes to your credibility on this forum (and to your clients worldwide).
If you can't prove what you're selling is genuine, maybe you should keep it for yourself, rather than pass the doubt onto other members of the forum.
Stormbreaker, it seems that you're the one who can't seem to take it when the shoe is on the other foot.
I don't have a problem with you questioning my earlier auction post because you had an interesting viewpoint which I think deserved to be aired. However, when I question your post regarding the authenticity of what you're selling, you resort to personal attacks towards me.
Perhaps you should be more professional and maybe try to respond to my question: how can we be sure the card you're selling is authentic? Did you get them from Banksy himself? Authenticity might not be important to you, but as a COLLECTOR, this is rather important; it also goes to your credibility on this forum (and to your clients worldwide).
If you can't prove what you're selling is genuine, maybe you should keep it for yourself, rather than pass the doubt onto other members of the forum.
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 16, 2024 0:40:50 GMT 1, And Stormbreaker, to respond to your earlier question, the auction that I posted had nothing to do with me; I did not organize it nor did/do profit from it in any way.
Unlike this sale which you clearly have a vested interest in.
And the issue now is clearly larger than just the "card" you're selling. I'm questioning your integrity as a seller on this forum. Please do not bully me or other members on this forum when you don't like the question asked.
And Stormbreaker, to respond to your earlier question, the auction that I posted had nothing to do with me; I did not organize it nor did/do profit from it in any way.
Unlike this sale which you clearly have a vested interest in.
And the issue now is clearly larger than just the "card" you're selling. I'm questioning your integrity as a seller on this forum. Please do not bully me or other members on this forum when you don't like the question asked.
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 16, 2024 0:45:51 GMT 1, I just have a problem with sellers thinking they can't be held accountable just because the art they're selling is priced cheaply. This is the same problem regarding the $50 di-faced tenners on ebay (or the $100 "bargain" banksy spraycans) that fraudsters make/sell on ebay, in the auction houses, and on this forum.
I just have a problem with sellers thinking they can't be held accountable just because the art they're selling is priced cheaply. This is the same problem regarding the $50 di-faced tenners on ebay (or the $100 "bargain" banksy spraycans) that fraudsters make/sell on ebay, in the auction houses, and on this forum.
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 16, 2024 2:03:08 GMT 1, Also, what if an unsuspecting member buys your art (believing it to be real), then sells it on? And then this member gets contacted by the police for selling a fake? Would you then voluntarily fly in from England to take the blame?
I'm not saying that yours is a authentic or fake (as there is absolutely no evidence either way.
What I'm saying is that we have a RESPONSIBILITY to the things we say or sell.
Also, what if an unsuspecting member buys your art (believing it to be real), then sells it on? And then this member gets contacted by the police for selling a fake? Would you then voluntarily fly in from England to take the blame?
I'm not saying that yours is a authentic or fake (as there is absolutely no evidence either way.
What I'm saying is that we have a RESPONSIBILITY to the things we say or sell.
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by Lroy on Jun 16, 2024 9:29:46 GMT 1, But there's really no way to know, is there? Banksy has a huge following, so there's always a market for "cheap" ephemera for people who don't know better. I mean, just type Banksy in ebay and you'll get all sorts of stuff coming up. So at the end of the day, it's caveat emptor.
But there's really no way to know, is there? Banksy has a huge following, so there's always a market for "cheap" ephemera for people who don't know better. I mean, just type Banksy in ebay and you'll get all sorts of stuff coming up. So at the end of the day, it's caveat emptor. At the diffรฉrence that on eBay, we mostly know what is fake or not ( Dismaland things per ex ) |
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 16, 2024 13:22:21 GMT 1, Je ne comprends pas. I don't get it.
Shouldn't it be the other way round? I mean at least you can get your money back if a fake is being sold on ebay? So there would be MORE buyers protection on ebay than here.
Je ne comprends pas. I don't get it.
Shouldn't it be the other way round? I mean at least you can get your money back if a fake is being sold on ebay? So there would be MORE buyers protection on ebay than here.
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 16, 2024 13:26:26 GMT 1, BTW, Llroy, I love Agent Provocateur too and I think it's great you gifted your art to him.
BTW, Llroy, I love Agent Provocateur too and I think it's great you gifted your art to him.
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by ck1 on Jun 16, 2024 14:40:51 GMT 1, Is my forum broken?
How is it that the last 7 of 8 posts on this thread are from the same guy with 28 total posts. He must be replying to someone right? Not just talking to himself?
Is my forum broken?
How is it that the last 7 of 8 posts on this thread are from the same guy with 28 total posts. He must be replying to someone right? Not just talking to himself?
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 17, 2024 0:36:02 GMT 1, Ck1, I don't get why the number of posts have anything to do with the actual points made here.
Shouldn't we be answering the actual question at hand? Namely that there is a real RISK for buyers on this forum when sellers refuse/fail to prove the authenticity of the art sold?
Ck1, I don't get why the number of posts have anything to do with the actual points made here.
Shouldn't we be answering the actual question at hand? Namely that there is a real RISK for buyers on this forum when sellers refuse/fail to prove the authenticity of the art sold?
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 17, 2024 0:40:30 GMT 1, Is my forum broken? How is it that the last 7 of 8 posts on this thread are from the same guy with 28 total posts. He must be replying to someone right? Not just talking to himself? I don't have as many posts as you, but I certainly have been on the forum at least as long as you.
So my point is, the number of posts or the number of years a member had been in this forum is irrelevant. We should be more welcoming to members irrespective of the number of their posts.
Which ironically is exactly why Stormbreaker busted my balls with my posts (he dismissed me because I had less posts than him).
Is my forum broken? How is it that the last 7 of 8 posts on this thread are from the same guy with 28 total posts. He must be replying to someone right? Not just talking to himself? I don't have as many posts as you, but I certainly have been on the forum at least as long as you. So my point is, the number of posts or the number of years a member had been in this forum is irrelevant. We should be more welcoming to members irrespective of the number of their posts. Which ironically is exactly why Stormbreaker busted my balls with my posts (he dismissed me because I had less posts than him). |
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by ck1 on Jun 17, 2024 4:46:20 GMT 1, Is my forum broken? How is it that the last 7 of 8 posts on this thread are from the same guy with 28 total posts. He must be replying to someone right? Not just talking to himself? I don't have as many posts as you, but I certainly have been on the forum at least as long as you. So my point is, the number of posts or the number of years a member had been in this forum is irrelevant. We should be more welcoming to members irrespective of the number of their posts. Which ironically is exactly why Stormbreaker busted my balls with my posts (he dismissed me because I had less posts than him).
Is my forum broken? How is it that the last 7 of 8 posts on this thread are from the same guy with 28 total posts. He must be replying to someone right? Not just talking to himself? I don't have as many posts as you, but I certainly have been on the forum at least as long as you. So my point is, the number of posts or the number of years a member had been in this forum is irrelevant. We should be more welcoming to members irrespective of the number of their posts. Which ironically is exactly why Stormbreaker busted my balls with my posts (he dismissed me because I had less posts than him). My point was not that you have a small number of posts. Itโs that you keep posting in this thread when there is no need and it doesnโt match past behavior. Thus the large percentage of your overall voice is spent protecting us from losing $75 on a business card. Seems like you just have an axe to grind and I would rather my eyeballs not bleed for it. |
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 17, 2024 5:59:09 GMT 1, So my point is, the number of posts or the number of years a member had been in this forum is irrelevant. We should be more welcoming to members irrespective of the number of their posts. Which ironically is exactly why Stormbreaker busted my balls with my posts (he dismissed me because I had less posts than him). My point was not that you have a small number of posts. Itโs that you keep posting in this thread when there is no need and it doesnโt match past behavior. Thus the large percentage of your overall voice is spent protecting us from losing $75 on a business card. Seems like you just have an axe to grind and I would rather my eyeballs not bleed for it.
Respectfully, I think you might be missing the point. The point is that I find it troubling that there are individuals who think that they need not prove the authenticity of the works they sell just because it's priced cheaply. I am also rather concerned that members are also turning a "blind eye" to this phenomenon; this can't be healthy for the ethos of the community and a whole.
Having said that, I should note that this $75 banksy post has garnered over 600 views in the space of 2 days, so perhaps I might have raised something of interest/importance to other members of this forum. Especially since members attract criminal liability for buying fakes unknowingly (thinking it is a good deal) and then flipping it on to 3rd parties.
Last, does anybody have anything constructive to say? I would be grateful if someone with some legal knowledge can share their thoughts on the matter?
So my point is, the number of posts or the number of years a member had been in this forum is irrelevant. We should be more welcoming to members irrespective of the number of their posts. Which ironically is exactly why Stormbreaker busted my balls with my posts (he dismissed me because I had less posts than him). My point was not that you have a small number of posts. Itโs that you keep posting in this thread when there is no need and it doesnโt match past behavior. Thus the large percentage of your overall voice is spent protecting us from losing $75 on a business card. Seems like you just have an axe to grind and I would rather my eyeballs not bleed for it. First, I apologize that this thread is making your "eyeballs bleed." Perhaps you might consider not clicking in, as there are probably other posts more to your liking. Respectfully, I think you might be missing the point. The point is that I find it troubling that there are individuals who think that they need not prove the authenticity of the works they sell just because it's priced cheaply. I am also rather concerned that members are also turning a "blind eye" to this phenomenon; this can't be healthy for the ethos of the community and a whole. Having said that, I should note that this $75 banksy post has garnered over 600 views in the space of 2 days, so perhaps I might have raised something of interest/importance to other members of this forum. Especially since members attract criminal liability for buying fakes unknowingly (thinking it is a good deal) and then flipping it on to 3rd parties. Last, does anybody have anything constructive to say? I would be grateful if someone with some legal knowledge can share their thoughts on the matter? |
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For sale Banksy I Hate Mondays/Village Pet Store and Grill, by abc on Jun 17, 2024 6:31:04 GMT 1, Also, Ck1, I do not "have an axe to grind". If you look at my history dated June 4 (which I'm sure you have), I actually invited Stormbreaker (the vendor of the $75 banksy card) to come out for a friendly discussion about Art. It was Stormbreaker who did not take me up on my offer.
Having said that, when we talk about Art, I think we should stick to facts and arguments, rather than speculate on others' motivations (or the number of posts a member has). It would better keep things on track and promote more quality discussions.
Also, Ck1, I do not "have an axe to grind". If you look at my history dated June 4 (which I'm sure you have), I actually invited Stormbreaker (the vendor of the $75 banksy card) to come out for a friendly discussion about Art. It was Stormbreaker who did not take me up on my offer.
Having said that, when we talk about Art, I think we should stick to facts and arguments, rather than speculate on others' motivations (or the number of posts a member has). It would better keep things on track and promote more quality discussions.
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