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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by bouncer300 on Aug 17, 2024 16:41:38 GMT 1, Queen Vic, and Grannies all unsigned unframed, in great condition with COA.
I thought I had put this on the other day but I cant see it so sorry if its a duplicate.
I was messed about by Prescription art telling me they had a buyer and wasted 2-3 months on it, so hence still available. I have been looking on an auction site and the prices I have given to some are probably not high enough. Here is the link to it.
www.banksy-value.com/realised.php. If you are only going to contact me to tell me that they are work stupid money please do not bother. I am looking for ยฃ12500 or offers in that region. Anyone posting nonsense about the value will be blocked and posting their opinion to put others off from buying. As per usual people on here want things for nothing but when they are selling want the correct price.
Queen Vic, and Grannies all unsigned unframed, in great condition with COA. I thought I had put this on the other day but I cant see it so sorry if its a duplicate. I was messed about by Prescription art telling me they had a buyer and wasted 2-3 months on it, so hence still available. I have been looking on an auction site and the prices I have given to some are probably not high enough. Here is the link to it. www.banksy-value.com/realised.php. If you are only going to contact me to tell me that they are work stupid money please do not bother. I am looking for ยฃ12500 or offers in that region. Anyone posting nonsense about the value will be blocked and posting their opinion to put others off from buying. As per usual people on here want things for nothing but when they are selling want the correct price. |
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china man
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by china man on Aug 17, 2024 17:05:25 GMT 1, Good luck! Like both of them. Price might be helpful for some?
Good luck! Like both of them. Price might be helpful for some?
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by bouncer300 on Aug 17, 2024 17:13:08 GMT 1, Iol 12500 for each
Iol 12500 for each
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by Quinnster on Aug 17, 2024 19:00:49 GMT 1, Is the market really this low?
Is the market really this low?
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bouncer300
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by bouncer300 on Aug 17, 2024 19:05:09 GMT 1, Hi I wasnโt exactly sure of the prices but looked at the auction and I should be a bit higher and for Trollies itโs 41k at least
Hi I wasnโt exactly sure of the prices but looked at the auction and I should be a bit higher and for Trollies itโs 41k at least
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by bouncer300 on Aug 17, 2024 19:05:59 GMT 1, I should be higher ! I wasnโt sure of the prices .
I should be higher ! I wasnโt sure of the prices .
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by dbm on Aug 17, 2024 20:03:18 GMT 1, Great prints GLWTSโฆ
Great prints GLWTSโฆ
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bouncer300
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by bouncer300 on Aug 17, 2024 20:05:16 GMT 1, Thank you ๐๐ป
Thank you ๐๐ป
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by Richard on Aug 18, 2024 10:22:42 GMT 1, Definitely not 41k for unsigned trolleys.
Definitely not 41k for unsigned trolleys.
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by Gunny on Aug 18, 2024 10:44:57 GMT 1, Unfortunately you re two years out with your pricing.
Unfortunately you re two years out with your pricing.
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by bouncer300 on Aug 23, 2024 7:30:45 GMT 1, Yes it has creases the one in the auction it says on the description of the auction description and it sold for 18K
Yes it has creases the one in the auction it says on the description of the auction description and it sold for 18K
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by sevrin on Aug 23, 2024 9:23:44 GMT 1, The Banksy-Value site is way off, it shows the last 3 results at Tate ward being all at 54000 USD.
Below are the actual results.
You may wish to adjust your expectations.
The Banksy-Value site is way off, it shows the last 3 results at Tate ward being all at 54000 USD. Below are the actual results. You may wish to adjust your expectations. |
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by artlike on Aug 27, 2024 9:40:09 GMT 1, Is the market really this low?
Is the market really this low? Lower. Where have you been?? |
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by LJCal on Aug 27, 2024 17:51:04 GMT 1, The Banksy-Value site is way off, it shows the last 3 results at Tate ward being all at 54000 USD. Below are the actual results. You may wish to adjust your expectations.
The Banksy-Value site is way off, it shows the last 3 results at Tate ward being all at 54000 USD. Below are the actual results. You may wish to adjust your expectations. Youโre wasting your breath. One of those situations where the seller wonโt allow pesky facts to impact their fantasy valuation. Apparently theyโre worth $41k because some random gallery is asking this much for one, and one sold 3 years ago at this price, who knew? |
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by mission on Aug 27, 2024 18:18:55 GMT 1, I think yet again the market has been expected /demanded a jump in prices after the recent banksy events in London โฆ. Yet again this has not materialised. Same as Glasgow Exhibtion . Itโs going to take more than this to revitalise and stimulate this market .
The revamping or cessation of Pest Control in its current format being a starter โฆ just my humble opinion
I think yet again the market has been expected /demanded a jump in prices after the recent banksy events in London โฆ. Yet again this has not materialised. Same as Glasgow Exhibtion . Itโs going to take more than this to revitalise and stimulate this market .
The revamping or cessation of Pest Control in its current format being a starter โฆ just my humble opinion
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by mission on Aug 27, 2024 18:19:58 GMT 1, Ps both these prints are now sub ยฃ10k in a private sale โฆ not my opinion but pretty much fact now !
Ps both these prints are now sub ยฃ10k in a private sale โฆ not my opinion but pretty much fact now !
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by artcore on Aug 27, 2024 18:47:48 GMT 1, We'll be adding Banksy to our platform soon which should help give collectors greater visibility into individual pieces valuations. Banksy value does a great job at it regardless. What people need to understand is that the price levels seen around 2020/2021 were anomalies and do not reflect in any sense where the market lies now. Wouldn't even call it a crash - more so a correction. When you see how the market has grown since 2010, its quite easy to see how big of an anomaly the growth seen during pandemic era was, and in hindsight, how unsustainable that was. Market's in a much healthier state now and should continue to appreciate as it has for the last 15 years.
That said, a lot of people have gotten burned on their purchases over the last few years and will be significantly under water for a bit, which tends to turn them away from spending on art in general. Hence, any serious seller looking to move their works need to understand how important pricing it right is. It's no longer a sellers market and most buyer's aren't fussed dealing with someone who's asking double or triple what the work is worth
We'll be adding Banksy to our platform soon which should help give collectors greater visibility into individual pieces valuations. Banksy value does a great job at it regardless. What people need to understand is that the price levels seen around 2020/2021 were anomalies and do not reflect in any sense where the market lies now. Wouldn't even call it a crash - more so a correction. When you see how the market has grown since 2010, its quite easy to see how big of an anomaly the growth seen during pandemic era was, and in hindsight, how unsustainable that was. Market's in a much healthier state now and should continue to appreciate as it has for the last 15 years.
That said, a lot of people have gotten burned on their purchases over the last few years and will be significantly under water for a bit, which tends to turn them away from spending on art in general. Hence, any serious seller looking to move their works need to understand how important pricing it right is. It's no longer a sellers market and most buyer's aren't fussed dealing with someone who's asking double or triple what the work is worth
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by artlike on Aug 27, 2024 20:33:45 GMT 1, We'll be adding Banksy to our platform soon which should help give collectors greater visibility into individual pieces valuations. Banksy value does a great job at it regardless. What people need to understand is that the price levels seen around 2020/2021 were anomalies and do not reflect in any sense where the market lies now. Wouldn't even call it a crash - more so a correction. When you see how the market has grown since 2010, its quite easy to see how big of an anomaly the growth seen during pandemic era was, and in hindsight, how unsustainable that was. Market's in a much healthier state now and should continue to appreciate as it has for the last 15 years. That said, a lot of people have gotten burned on their purchases over the last few years and will be significantly under water for a bit, which tends to turn them away from spending on art in general. Hence, any serious seller looking to move their works need to understand how important pricing it right is. It's no longer a sellers market and most buyer's aren't fussed dealing with someone who's asking double or triple what the work is worth
I don't think you're doing your site any favours by trying to suggest that prices haven't crashed...some prints are down 70% from the peak and falling. Yes yes maybe v a few years back they haven't, but relative to two years ago. Crash is probably an understatement. Suggests you don't really know what you're talking about, which I'm sure is not the case, although your last post 
We'll be adding Banksy to our platform soon which should help give collectors greater visibility into individual pieces valuations. Banksy value does a great job at it regardless. What people need to understand is that the price levels seen around 2020/2021 were anomalies and do not reflect in any sense where the market lies now. Wouldn't even call it a crash - more so a correction. When you see how the market has grown since 2010, its quite easy to see how big of an anomaly the growth seen during pandemic era was, and in hindsight, how unsustainable that was. Market's in a much healthier state now and should continue to appreciate as it has for the last 15 years. That said, a lot of people have gotten burned on their purchases over the last few years and will be significantly under water for a bit, which tends to turn them away from spending on art in general. Hence, any serious seller looking to move their works need to understand how important pricing it right is. It's no longer a sellers market and most buyer's aren't fussed dealing with someone who's asking double or triple what the work is worth I really hate the term "correction" used in respect of pricing. By the by and nothing to do with you but it's just, such a poor term. Same with the term "progressive". I don't think you're doing your site any favours by trying to suggest that prices haven't crashed...some prints are down 70% from the peak and falling. Yes yes maybe v a few years back they haven't, but relative to two years ago. Crash is probably an understatement. Suggests you don't really know what you're talking about, which I'm sure is not the case, although your last post |
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by LJCal on Aug 27, 2024 22:31:21 GMT 1, We'll be adding Banksy to our platform soon which should help give collectors greater visibility into individual pieces valuations. Banksy value does a great job at it regardless. What people need to understand is that the price levels seen around 2020/2021 were anomalies and do not reflect in any sense where the market lies now. Wouldn't even call it a crash - more so a correction. When you see how the market has grown since 2010, its quite easy to see how big of an anomaly the growth seen during pandemic era was, and in hindsight, how unsustainable that was. Market's in a much healthier state now and should continue to appreciate as it has for the last 15 years. That said, a lot of people have gotten burned on their purchases over the last few years and will be significantly under water for a bit, which tends to turn them away from spending on art in general. Hence, any serious seller looking to move their works need to understand how important pricing it right is. It's no longer a sellers market and most buyer's aren't fussed dealing with someone who's asking double or triple what the work is worth I really hate the term "correction" used in respect of pricing. By the by and nothing to do with you but it's just, such a poor term. Same with the term "progressive". I don't think you're doing your site any favours by trying to suggest that prices haven't crashed...some prints are down 70% from the peak and falling. Yes yes maybe v a few years back they haven't, but relative to two years ago. Crash is probably an understatement. Suggests you don't really know what you're talking about, which I'm sure is not the case, although your last post
In fairness to artcore I think the point he's making is that the rises during Covid were really the anomaly and the recent falls are bringing values back into line with the long term trend, in that sense I think it's a fair use of the term. Whether the B market returns to pre-pandemic levels of growth off these rebased values remains to be seen. For what it's worth I actually agree with what Artcore is saying and share the opinion that what we are seeing now is really where prints would have been if Covid never happened (in fact arguably they're perhaps a little over sold), I hold the view that growth will likely return in the medium to long term. I have no idea at what rate or if the market has further to fall, and of course I could be completely wrong and values may recover very slowly, if at all (wouldn't be the first time I was wrong and won't be the last).
We'll be adding Banksy to our platform soon which should help give collectors greater visibility into individual pieces valuations. Banksy value does a great job at it regardless. What people need to understand is that the price levels seen around 2020/2021 were anomalies and do not reflect in any sense where the market lies now. Wouldn't even call it a crash - more so a correction. When you see how the market has grown since 2010, its quite easy to see how big of an anomaly the growth seen during pandemic era was, and in hindsight, how unsustainable that was. Market's in a much healthier state now and should continue to appreciate as it has for the last 15 years. That said, a lot of people have gotten burned on their purchases over the last few years and will be significantly under water for a bit, which tends to turn them away from spending on art in general. Hence, any serious seller looking to move their works need to understand how important pricing it right is. It's no longer a sellers market and most buyer's aren't fussed dealing with someone who's asking double or triple what the work is worth I really hate the term "correction" used in respect of pricing. By the by and nothing to do with you but it's just, such a poor term. Same with the term "progressive". I don't think you're doing your site any favours by trying to suggest that prices haven't crashed...some prints are down 70% from the peak and falling. Yes yes maybe v a few years back they haven't, but relative to two years ago. Crash is probably an understatement. Suggests you don't really know what you're talking about, which I'm sure is not the case, although your last post I'm not a fan of that term either, it's generally used by people with a vested interest in a market and can be broadly translated to mean that the ass has completely dropped out of the market. In fairness to artcore I think the point he's making is that the rises during Covid were really the anomaly and the recent falls are bringing values back into line with the long term trend, in that sense I think it's a fair use of the term. Whether the B market returns to pre-pandemic levels of growth off these rebased values remains to be seen. For what it's worth I actually agree with what Artcore is saying and share the opinion that what we are seeing now is really where prints would have been if Covid never happened (in fact arguably they're perhaps a little over sold), I hold the view that growth will likely return in the medium to long term. I have no idea at what rate or if the market has further to fall, and of course I could be completely wrong and values may recover very slowly, if at all (wouldn't be the first time I was wrong and won't be the last). |
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by artcore on Aug 27, 2024 23:04:20 GMT 1, It depends on what perspective you look at it from.. again, the point that we're trying to make is that if an artist's market has grown by 8-10% annually for 10+ years, and then all of a sudden shoots up by 400% in two years only for it to come down to price points that would've been observed had the 400% jump never happened to begin with (and instead, no COVID craziness happened and it continued to grow at the typical 8-10% rate), then the price levels we're seeing currently are fair. Again, when you compare them to 2021 peaks, yes, it seems like they crashed, but the point being made is that the 2021 price levels that were observed to begin with were a huge anomaly that was only observed because of the insane monetary policies around that era. Drawing comparisons to those price points are nonsensical for an artist whose print market has existed since way before then.
When you compare where most prints were at during 2018/2019, before the COVID craziness, to where they are now, you can see quite easily that they're at price levels that are in-line with Banksy's expected growth. Now, for example, if we start seeing prints go back to 2014 price point for example, I would agree that its no longer a "correction" (for the lack of a better term) and instead is a "crash". How this ends up playing - only time will tell - we're simply making an observation based on the current state that we see.
It depends on what perspective you look at it from.. again, the point that we're trying to make is that if an artist's market has grown by 8-10% annually for 10+ years, and then all of a sudden shoots up by 400% in two years only for it to come down to price points that would've been observed had the 400% jump never happened to begin with (and instead, no COVID craziness happened and it continued to grow at the typical 8-10% rate), then the price levels we're seeing currently are fair. Again, when you compare them to 2021 peaks, yes, it seems like they crashed, but the point being made is that the 2021 price levels that were observed to begin with were a huge anomaly that was only observed because of the insane monetary policies around that era. Drawing comparisons to those price points are nonsensical for an artist whose print market has existed since way before then.
When you compare where most prints were at during 2018/2019, before the COVID craziness, to where they are now, you can see quite easily that they're at price levels that are in-line with Banksy's expected growth. Now, for example, if we start seeing prints go back to 2014 price point for example, I would agree that its no longer a "correction" (for the lack of a better term) and instead is a "crash". How this ends up playing - only time will tell - we're simply making an observation based on the current state that we see.
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by artlike on Aug 28, 2024 8:45:33 GMT 1, Well it's easy to say all that now but I don't remember many people liquidating their portfolios with the price up 400%. I remember a lot of "to the moon" talk and "I've got 4 GWRBs". So if you data mine and compare prices to different years, then it will support any argument. I see your point, but the market has crashed/collapsed/dived since the peaks, in a bad way. If you bought in 2019 then well done...but unless you sold in 2021/22 there's a significant opportunity loss.
This forum sounded like a crypto forum for 6 months.
Well it's easy to say all that now but I don't remember many people liquidating their portfolios with the price up 400%. I remember a lot of "to the moon" talk and "I've got 4 GWRBs". So if you data mine and compare prices to different years, then it will support any argument. I see your point, but the market has crashed/collapsed/dived since the peaks, in a bad way. If you bought in 2019 then well done...but unless you sold in 2021/22 there's a significant opportunity loss.
This forum sounded like a crypto forum for 6 months.
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by needfoolthings on Sept 3, 2024 1:09:08 GMT 1, Fair prices for the market and love the grannies if I hadnโt just picked up another unsigned Iโd be all over it!
Fair prices for the market and love the grannies if I hadnโt just picked up another unsigned Iโd be all over it!
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by bouncer300 on Sept 3, 2024 8:03:31 GMT 1, Hi could I ask what you paid for it pls ?
Hi could I ask what you paid for it pls ?
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by Pistol on Sept 3, 2024 22:18:01 GMT 1, How much is the Grannies print please?
How much is the Grannies print please?
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by Patrick 01 on Sept 3, 2024 22:27:26 GMT 1, How much is the Grannies print please?
How much is the Grannies print please? Sold pending payment |
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by fq9 on Sept 15, 2024 21:01:48 GMT 1, Hello.. Payment received?
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Hello.. Payment received?
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by Londown 01 on Sept 15, 2024 21:05:47 GMT 1, How much is the Grannies print please? Sold pending payment
Where did that come from?
How much is the Grannies print please? Sold pending payment Where did that come from? |
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Banksy QUEEN VIC OR GRANNIES FOR SALE, by mandem on Sept 15, 2024 22:21:30 GMT 1, Where did that come from?
So hard keeping track of multiple accounts
Where did that come from? So hard keeping track of multiple accounts |
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