brahim91
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by brahim91 on Nov 2, 2024 15:56:18 GMT 1, Hi,
An old friend purchased last week a GDP Flower Thrower
but seller wants to ship the print rolled in a tube, and was a red flag for him.
What are your thoughts?
Please PM with your thoughts if you own a GDP Flower Thrower
Best wishes,
B
Hi,
An old friend purchased last week a GDP Flower Thrower
but seller wants to ship the print rolled in a tube, and was a red flag for him.
What are your thoughts?
Please PM with your thoughts if you own a GDP Flower Thrower
Best wishes,
B
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artxatom
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by artxatom on Nov 2, 2024 16:18:27 GMT 1, DM'd. that is a red flag especially if the seller is insisting it to be sent in a tube.
DM'd. that is a red flag especially if the seller is insisting it to be sent in a tube.
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Wanchope
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by Wanchope on Nov 2, 2024 16:20:23 GMT 1, Why canโt it be sent in a tube? I would have thought that is completely normal??
Why canโt it be sent in a tube? I would have thought that is completely normal??
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by Wanchope on Nov 2, 2024 16:22:17 GMT 1, Just checking as Iโm assuming you mean the free flower poster given out, but if you mean the expensive triptych then yes it is totally a red flag to send in a tube imo
Just checking as Iโm assuming you mean the free flower poster given out, but if you mean the expensive triptych then yes it is totally a red flag to send in a tube imo
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by u%hdjfka c on Nov 2, 2024 16:23:43 GMT 1, DM'd. that is a red flag especially if the seller is insisting it to be sent in a tube.
DM'd. that is a red flag especially if the seller is insisting it to be sent in a tube. Why is it a red flag? Nothing wrong with shipping this in a tube. |
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by u%hdjfka c on Nov 2, 2024 16:24:25 GMT 1, Just checking as Iโm assuming you mean the free flower poster given out, but if you mean the expensive triptych then yes it is totally a red flag to send in a tube imo
Just checking as Iโm assuming you mean the free flower poster given out, but if you mean the expensive triptych then yes it is totally a red flag to send in a tube imo The triptych is on board and can't be rolled |
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brahim91
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by brahim91 on Nov 2, 2024 16:25:10 GMT 1, Just checking as Iโm assuming you mean the free flower poster given out, but if you mean the expensive triptych then yes it is totally a red flag to send in a tube imo
Just checking as Iโm assuming you mean the free flower poster given out, but if you mean the expensive triptych then yes it is totally a red flag to send in a tube imo Yes free flower poster |
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artxatom
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by artxatom on Nov 2, 2024 16:33:52 GMT 1, DM'd. that is a red flag especially if the seller is insisting it to be sent in a tube. Why is it a red flag? Nothing wrong with shipping this in a tube.
DM'd. that is a red flag especially if the seller is insisting it to be sent in a tube. Why is it a red flag? Nothing wrong with shipping this in a tube. as i thought he was talking about the triptych... as its the poster then its down to value and preference.. |
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brahim91
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by brahim91 on Nov 2, 2024 16:50:07 GMT 1, were these posters originally gifted rolled?
were these posters originally gifted rolled?
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by buffin on Nov 2, 2024 17:00:04 GMT 1, were these posters originally gifted rolled?
were these posters originally gifted rolled? Yes |
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by Gunny on Nov 2, 2024 17:29:43 GMT 1, were these posters originally gifted rolled?
were these posters originally gifted rolled? yes |
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by Quinnster on Nov 3, 2024 8:47:56 GMT 1, Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube.
I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives.
Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube.
I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives.
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by met on Nov 3, 2024 10:36:41 GMT 1, Hi, An old friend purchased last week a GDP Flower Thrower but seller wants to ship the print rolled in a tube, and was a red flag for him. What are your thoughts? Please PM with your thoughts if you own a GDP Flower Thrower Best wishes, B
Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube. I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives.
The aspect I would challenge is the buyer's motivation for spending money on this poster.
It is not standalone; it cannot really hold its own as a work of art.
The image of a hand clutching some flowers is but one‑third of an artwork. And it makes zero sense unless the viewer is already familiar with the complete, three‑part piece the poster is referencing.
To my mind, that makes it a derivative and somewhat pointless waste of space.
Its value, at best, is merely that of a souvenir โ for people who actually attended the 2019 Gross Domestic Product event in Croydon.
Hi, An old friend purchased last week a GDP Flower Thrower but seller wants to ship the print rolled in a tube, and was a red flag for him. What are your thoughts? Please PM with your thoughts if you own a GDP Flower Thrower Best wishes, B Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube. I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives. The aspect I would challenge is the buyer's motivation for spending money on this poster. It is not standalone; it cannot really hold its own as a work of art. The image of a hand clutching some flowers is but one‑third of an artwork. And it makes zero sense unless the viewer is already familiar with the complete, three‑part piece the poster is referencing. To my mind, that makes it a derivative and somewhat pointless waste of space. Its value, at best, is merely that of a souvenir โ for people who actually attended the 2019 Gross Domestic Product event in Cro ydon. |
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by u%hdjfka c on Nov 3, 2024 11:34:57 GMT 1, Hi, An old friend purchased last week a GDP Flower Thrower but seller wants to ship the print rolled in a tube, and was a red flag for him. What are your thoughts? Please PM with your thoughts if you own a GDP Flower Thrower Best wishes, B Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube. I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives. The aspect I would challenge is the buyer's motivation for spending money on this poster. It is not standalone; it cannot really hold its own as a work of art. The image of a hand clutching some flowers is but oneโthird of an artwork. And it makes zero sense unless the viewer is already familiar with the complete, threeโpart piece the poster is referencing. To my mind, that makes it a derivative and somewhat pointless waste of space. Its value, at best, is merely that of a souvenir โ for people who actually attended the 2019 Gross Domestic Product event in Cro ydon.
Hi, An old friend purchased last week a GDP Flower Thrower but seller wants to ship the print rolled in a tube, and was a red flag for him. What are your thoughts? Please PM with your thoughts if you own a GDP Flower Thrower Best wishes, B Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube. I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives. The aspect I would challenge is the buyer's motivation for spending money on this poster. It is not standalone; it cannot really hold its own as a work of art. The image of a hand clutching some flowers is but oneโthird of an artwork. And it makes zero sense unless the viewer is already familiar with the complete, threeโpart piece the poster is referencing. To my mind, that makes it a derivative and somewhat pointless waste of space. Its value, at best, is merely that of a souvenir โ for people who actually attended the 2019 Gross Domestic Product event in Cro ydon. |
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by hdduyddfj on Nov 3, 2024 11:50:09 GMT 1, Hi, An old friend purchased last week a GDP Flower Thrower but seller wants to ship the print rolled in a tube, and was a red flag for him. What are your thoughts? Please PM with your thoughts if you own a GDP Flower Thrower Best wishes, B Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube. I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives. The aspect I would challenge is the buyer's motivation for spending money on this poster. It is not standalone; it cannot really hold its own as a work of art. The image of a hand clutching some flowers is but oneโthird of an artwork. And it makes zero sense unless the viewer is already familiar with the complete, threeโpart piece the poster is referencing. To my mind, that makes it a derivative and somewhat pointless waste of space. Its value, at best, is merely that of a souvenir โ for people who actually attended the 2019 Gross Domestic Product event in Cro ydon.
Hi, An old friend purchased last week a GDP Flower Thrower but seller wants to ship the print rolled in a tube, and was a red flag for him. What are your thoughts? Please PM with your thoughts if you own a GDP Flower Thrower Best wishes, B Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube. I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives. The aspect I would challenge is the buyer's motivation for spending money on this poster. It is not standalone; it cannot really hold its own as a work of art. The image of a hand clutching some flowers is but oneโthird of an artwork. And it makes zero sense unless the viewer is already familiar with the complete, threeโpart piece the poster is referencing. To my mind, that makes it a derivative and somewhat pointless waste of space. Its value, at best, is merely that of a souvenir โ for people who actually attended the 2019 Gross Domestic Product event in Cro ydon. I agree. This was created as a screen print with coa as well, 1/3 the picture, it doesn't really work as a stand alone piece. There was an original version which tied in with Bast and it was quite powerful given the circumstances/his passing. The 1/3 of the picture makes more sense. |
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brahim91
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by brahim91 on Nov 3, 2024 12:05:01 GMT 1, Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube. I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives.
yes, 54 grms paper rolled for an international shipping is not an option
Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube. I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives. yes, 54 grms paper rolled for an international shipping is not an option |
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by Londown 01 on Nov 3, 2024 14:03:22 GMT 1, It is not standalone; it cannot really hold its own as a work of art. The image of a hand clutching some flowers is but oneโthird of an artwork. And it makes zero sense unless the viewer is already familiar with the complete, threeโpart piece the poster is referencing. To my mind, that makes it a derivative and somewhat pointless waste of space.
Completely disagree.
Wasn't it you who said that whatever the artist views as art is art?
Sure, it is only the fragment of another work, but that doesn't completely devalue it:
- There is a rich history of taking symbols, objects, or parts from other works and recontextualising / reinterpreting them. See Picasso's series on "Las Meninas", for example.
- Further, most modern artworks require some background information or explanation. So if the meaning of the flowers isn't obvious, there is nothing wrong with filling in the blanks.
- Finally, there is at least aesthetic value in the hand+flowers as they are. Again, the history of still lifes shows that collectors value works for that alone.
Don't get me wrong, I also think that a LIITA print or the GDP triptych are the "better" works. But if somebody loves Banksy and cannot afford the just mentioned: I don't see the problem with going for this one. (And, please, don't call them "posters", because they are not.)
It is not standalone; it cannot really hold its own as a work of art. The image of a hand clutching some flowers is but oneโthird of an artwork. And it makes zero sense unless the viewer is already familiar with the complete, threeโpart piece the poster is referencing. To my mind, that makes it a derivative and somewhat pointless waste of space. Completely disagree. Wasn't it you who said that whatever the artist views as art is art? Sure, it is only the fragment of another work, but that doesn't completely devalue it: - There is a rich history of taking symbols, objects, or parts from other works and recontextualising / reinterpreting them. See Picasso's series on "Las Meninas", for example. - Further, most modern artworks require some background information or explanation. So if the meaning of the flowers isn't obvious, there is nothing wrong with filling in the blanks. - Finally, there is at least aesthetic value in the hand+flowers as they are. Again, the history of still lifes shows that collectors value works for that alone. Don't get me wrong, I also think that a LIITA print or the GDP triptych are the "better" works. But if somebody loves Banksy and cannot afford the just mentioned: I don't see the problem with going for this one. (And, please, don't call them "posters", because they are not.) |
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by Quinnster on Nov 5, 2024 20:30:13 GMT 1, Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube. I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives. yes, 54 grms paper rolled for an international shipping is not an option
Iโd say the buyer was a red flag nothing wrong shipping in a tube. I bet the buyer will find some fault when it arrives. yes, 54 grms paper rolled for an international shipping is not an option I would 100% roll it. If you do it right then you would have no problem |
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by cemltz on Nov 5, 2024 21:19:13 GMT 1, While I'm not a fan of the piece, I think a generalization that it cannot standalone just because it is part of another piece, particularly if only recognizable to people that know that piece ("IYKYK")...well, as Hall & Oats say...
While I'm not a fan of the piece, I think a generalization that it cannot standalone just because it is part of another piece, particularly if only recognizable to people that know that piece ("IYKYK")...well, as Hall & Oats say... |
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by Posters And Prints Blog on Nov 6, 2024 0:22:40 GMT 1, Is this what the guards received for their services in Croydon at GDP? It would be great if the buyer ended up being named Trevor!
Is this what the guards received for their services in Croydon at GDP? It would be great if the buyer ended up being named Trevor!
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by Dutch Art Collector on Nov 6, 2024 7:55:08 GMT 1, Itโs a gift with a coa from Pest. Mmmmmmm
Itโs a gift with a coa from Pest. Mmmmmmm |
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cemltz
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BANKSY GDP Flower Thrower Print, by cemltz on Nov 6, 2024 14:48:35 GMT 1, Itโs a gift with a coa from Pest. Mmmmmmm
Well, if you take provenance of the piece (hint, it was made in 2020 and the owner had received it "by descent" and auctioned in by March of 2021) and look at the charity being supported by its sale...well, fair to say it was not your typical random B auction piece...
Itโs a gift with a coa from Pest. Mmmmmmm Well, if you take provenance of the piece (hint, it was made in 2020 and the owner had received it "by descent" and auctioned in by March of 2021) and look at the charity being supported by its sale...well, fair to say it was not your typical random B auction piece... |
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