spirit
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by spirit on May 19, 2008 17:59:41 GMT 1, Would you like to see a good traders/bad traders thread on this forum that allowed members to praise/name and shame other members depending on how they conduct themselves in trades?
Would you like to see a good traders/bad traders thread on this forum that allowed members to praise/name and shame other members depending on how they conduct themselves in trades?
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dmandpenfold
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by dmandpenfold on May 19, 2008 18:01:13 GMT 1, what happened to thread 1?
what happened to thread 1?
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spirit
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by spirit on May 19, 2008 18:03:36 GMT 1, I buggered it up - made the question too long so that half of it was missing. First time i've done a poll so a small learning curve involved. sorry about that! I asked silky to delete it so I guess he did.
I buggered it up - made the question too long so that half of it was missing. First time i've done a poll so a small learning curve involved. sorry about that! I asked silky to delete it so I guess he did.
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curiousgeorge
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by curiousgeorge on May 19, 2008 18:11:16 GMT 1, Just a thought, a name and shame thread could get messy,it would be like Christmas all over again 
Just a thought, a name and shame thread could get messy,it would be like Christmas all over again |
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dmandpenfold
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by dmandpenfold on May 19, 2008 18:15:30 GMT 1, yep your right there CG, but it may help to keep people honest too, thereby avoiding the shaming in the first place, but you're right its bound to descend into a farce
yep your right there CG, but it may help to keep people honest too, thereby avoiding the shaming in the first place, but you're right its bound to descend into a farce
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by rosstierney on May 19, 2008 18:17:01 GMT 1, it has to be done. i'm fed up of the same items being advertised on numerous occasions due to a select few members f**king about. knock the abuse on the head, just expose them & the situation.
it has to be done. i'm fed up of the same items being advertised on numerous occasions due to a select few members f**king about. knock the abuse on the head, just expose them & the situation.
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curiousgeorge
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by curiousgeorge on May 19, 2008 18:22:27 GMT 1, Can see you are well up for it Ross, i feel a rant coming on
In all seriousness it would decend into name calling etc,etc. And another point i would many members prefer privacy.
Can see you are well up for it Ross, i feel a rant coming on
In all seriousness it would decend into name calling etc,etc. And another point i would many members prefer privacy.
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spirit
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by spirit on May 19, 2008 18:22:28 GMT 1, I agree that the thread itself could get a bit messy but I honestly think it would significantly improve the quality of trades on here and a messy thread is a sacrifice worth paying for that. Also everything would be out in the open and anyone shamed would have the opportunity to defend themselves. Other members might even be able to help/arbitrate in disputes where 2 members are slagging each other off both thinking they are in the right.
I agree that the thread itself could get a bit messy but I honestly think it would significantly improve the quality of trades on here and a messy thread is a sacrifice worth paying for that. Also everything would be out in the open and anyone shamed would have the opportunity to defend themselves. Other members might even be able to help/arbitrate in disputes where 2 members are slagging each other off both thinking they are in the right.
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shaunyboy
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by shaunyboy on May 19, 2008 18:24:03 GMT 1, Well we can at least suck it and see.
If it descends into the playground too much then scrap it.
Well we can at least suck it and see.
If it descends into the playground too much then scrap it.
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by melmoth on May 19, 2008 18:25:34 GMT 1, Shouldn't it be 'traders' rather than 'trades'? I've done some VERY bad trades in the past, but the person I traded with was great 
Shouldn't it be 'traders' rather than 'trades'? I've done some VERY bad trades in the past, but the person I traded with was great |
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spirit
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by spirit on May 19, 2008 18:27:49 GMT 1, Fair point. My Zbiok for your Banksy lol :-)
Fair point. My Zbiok for your Banksy lol :-)
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by rosstierney on May 19, 2008 18:32:33 GMT 1, if a bad trade comes down to inexperience, it can only improve the trader?
if a bad trade comes down to inexperience, it can only improve the trader?
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by displaced bear on May 19, 2008 18:35:51 GMT 1, at the same time, people can change their display names... people would have to pay attn to username...
**i just checked and is that option no longer available? (the changing of display names)
at the same time, people can change their display names... people would have to pay attn to username...
**i just checked and is that option no longer available? (the changing of display names)
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Matt-lock
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by Matt-lock on May 19, 2008 18:38:43 GMT 1, it will always get a bit messy with threads like that but I like a little mess in my life. It comes down to the fact of how bad somebody wants to buy/sell something. You can be a great buyer/seller/trader if you want the piece bad enough but if you're having second thoughts about something then you're ultimately just wasting everybodys time.
People just need to think before they make offers or decide to sell something. If you don't have the money right then...don't make an offer and then come back with excuses. If you're not going to pm people back inquiring about your sale then maybe you shouldn't start a sale thread. It's pretty simple but morons seem to enjoy making things difficult.
it will always get a bit messy with threads like that but I like a little mess in my life. It comes down to the fact of how bad somebody wants to buy/sell something. You can be a great buyer/seller/trader if you want the piece bad enough but if you're having second thoughts about something then you're ultimately just wasting everybodys time.
People just need to think before they make offers or decide to sell something. If you don't have the money right then...don't make an offer and then come back with excuses. If you're not going to pm people back inquiring about your sale then maybe you shouldn't start a sale thread. It's pretty simple but morons seem to enjoy making things difficult.
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shower
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by shower on May 19, 2008 18:39:37 GMT 1, there will only be arguments from people who know they are in the wrong. when they know they are they always argue back! it would be nice to know who do deal with, i have considered deals before but always thought twice due to other peoples bad experiences!
there will only be arguments from people who know they are in the wrong. when they know they are they always argue back! it would be nice to know who do deal with, i have considered deals before but always thought twice due to other peoples bad experiences!
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jfury
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by jfury on May 19, 2008 18:48:43 GMT 1, ....personaly I think this is a bad idea its going to cause lots of issues...people can be unfairly accused, confusion with actually what happened, lies etc etc etc - so many things that can go wrong on the both sides of a trade. People may have a valid reason for what happened rather than them being permanently tarnished. It will result in the guilty until proven innocent, which is never good.
The original + - was there for the very reason of trading (unless someone can correct me) until slowly but shortly it morphed into whether someone had written a good or bad post. That got removed due to so much bad feedback and now this is the very same thing but worse!?!?!
too many negatives than positives for me IMO
....personaly I think this is a bad idea its going to cause lots of issues...people can be unfairly accused, confusion with actually what happened, lies etc etc etc - so many things that can go wrong on the both sides of a trade. People may have a valid reason for what happened rather than them being permanently tarnished. It will result in the guilty until proven innocent, which is never good.
The original + - was there for the very reason of trading (unless someone can correct me) until slowly but shortly it morphed into whether someone had written a good or bad post. That got removed due to so much bad feedback and now this is the very same thing but worse!?!?!
too many negatives than positives for me IMO
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jfury
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by jfury on May 19, 2008 18:51:10 GMT 1, there will only be arguments from people who know they are in the wrong. when they know they are they always argue back! it would be nice to know who do deal with, i have considered deals before but always thought twice due to other peoples bad experiences!
...basically just ask people for references when looking to trade is always good I have done this in the past....again issues with this but nothing is perfect
there will only be arguments from people who know they are in the wrong. when they know they are they always argue back! it would be nice to know who do deal with, i have considered deals before but always thought twice due to other peoples bad experiences! ...basically just ask people for references when looking to trade is always good I have done this in the past....again issues with this but nothing is perfect |
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by fatherxmas on May 19, 2008 19:34:52 GMT 1, very good idea
im sure there is a number of people on here who will comment on how i do business.
A1 all the way
very good idea
im sure there is a number of people on here who will comment on how i do business.
A1 all the way
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nacional
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by nacional on May 19, 2008 20:12:00 GMT 1, How about extending it to galleries who provide a crap service?
How about extending it to galleries who provide a crap service? |
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DYL4N
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by DYL4N on May 19, 2008 20:19:59 GMT 1, As much as name and shame might be a good idea, reckon it would only create another spate of new accounts being opened.
And would need to be extreme caution as even people are sueing ebay about neg feedback.
As much as name and shame might be a good idea, reckon it would only create another spate of new accounts being opened.
And would need to be extreme caution as even people are sueing ebay about neg feedback.
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aginghippie
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by aginghippie on May 19, 2008 20:42:00 GMT 1, As much as name and shame might be a good idea, reckon it would only create another spate of new accounts being opened. And would need to be extreme caution as even people are sueing ebay about neg feedback.
This a lawsuit waiting to happen on many different fronts not to mention problems with proboards82 over takedown orders.
As much as name and shame might be a good idea, reckon it would only create another spate of new accounts being opened. And would need to be extreme caution as even people are sueing ebay about neg feedback. This a lawsuit waiting to happen on many different fronts not to mention problems with proboards82 over takedown orders. |
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jam
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by jam on May 19, 2008 20:51:08 GMT 1, As much as name and shame might be a good idea, reckon it would only create another spate of new accounts being opened. And would need to be extreme caution as even people are sueing ebay about neg feedback. This a lawsuit waiting to happen on many different fronts not to mention problems with proboards82 over takedown orders.
Would you both agree that it is acceptable to post your individual trading experiences? I would think a name & shame is crossing the line, but if you post the details of the transaction and mention whom was involved, it gives proper context that would justify the comments and/or provide a good basis for debate or rebuttal from each party.
As much as name and shame might be a good idea, reckon it would only create another spate of new accounts being opened. And would need to be extreme caution as even people are sueing ebay about neg feedback. This a lawsuit waiting to happen on many different fronts not to mention problems with proboards82 over takedown orders. Would you both agree that it is acceptable to post your individual trading experiences? I would think a name & shame is crossing the line, but if you post the details of the transaction and mention whom was involved, it gives proper context that would justify the comments and/or provide a good basis for debate or rebuttal from each party. |
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aginghippie
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by aginghippie on May 19, 2008 21:03:04 GMT 1, As much as name and shame might be a good idea, reckon it would only create another spate of new accounts being opened. And would need to be extreme caution as even people are sueing ebay about neg feedback.
This is a nice idea but it's a lawsuit waiting to happen on many different fronts not to mention problems with proboards82 over takedowns. If it was limited to good transactions then that might be a different matter.
As much as name and shame might be a good idea, reckon it would only create another spate of new accounts being opened. And would need to be extreme caution as even people are sueing ebay about neg feedback. This is a nice idea but it's a lawsuit waiting to happen on many different fronts not to mention problems with proboards82 over takedowns. If it was limited to good transactions then that might be a different matter. |
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by ramraiders on May 19, 2008 21:08:48 GMT 1, As I said in the other thread - make it optional. That in itself is a statement of intent.
As I said in the other thread - make it optional. That in itself is a statement of intent.
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spirit
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by spirit on May 19, 2008 22:04:25 GMT 1, [ This is a nice idea but it's a lawsuit waiting to happen on many different fronts not to mention problems with proboards82 over takedowns. If it was limited to good transactions then that might be a different matter.
Interesting points you made there ah - but is naming/shaming really that different to say the feedback system on ebay?
[ This is a nice idea but it's a lawsuit waiting to happen on many different fronts not to mention problems with proboards82 over takedowns. If it was limited to good transactions then that might be a different matter. Interesting points you made there ah - but is naming/shaming really that different to say the feedback system on ebay? |
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by Bram on May 19, 2008 22:15:14 GMT 1, Anyone ever read Animal Farm?
Anyone ever read Animal Farm?
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by bobbyt23 on May 19, 2008 22:17:38 GMT 1, Anyone ever read Animal Farm?
No but I once saw a really dodgy film by that name when I was younger.
Anyone ever read Animal Farm? No but I once saw a really dodgy film by that name when I was younger. |
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Bram
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by Bram on May 19, 2008 22:19:01 GMT 1, Anyone ever read Animal Farm? No but I once saw a really dodgy film by that name when I was younger.
;D ;D ;D
Anyone ever read Animal Farm? No but I once saw a really dodgy film by that name when I was younger. ;D ;D ;D |
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by paulypaul on May 19, 2008 22:19:58 GMT 1, Anyone ever read Animal Farm?
I read it once but, in this case, the film was better than the book. I mean - you can describe a girl fucking a dog but nothing really replaces seeing it...
Anyone ever read Animal Farm? I read it once but, in this case, the film was better than the book. I mean - you can describe a girl fu cking a dog but nothing really replaces seeing it... |
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Good traders/bad traders thread 2, by arcam on May 19, 2008 22:20:15 GMT 1, I'd like us to incorporate something like they have at AV Forums where members are given a trader rating.
www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=761743
Members are able to leave feedback much like they can do on ebay. Works very well imo.
I'd like us to incorporate something like they have at AV Forums where members are given a trader rating. www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=761743Members are able to leave feedback much like they can do on ebay. Works very well imo. |
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