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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by jaimesl on Mar 19, 2008 13:04:02 GMT 1,
GUTTTTEDDDDD!!!!!!
I missed this and have been F5'ing like a maniac for the last hour.
Please, if anyone has one, and is sitting on the fence, I'd love to take it off your hands.
Would consider swaps if you let me know what you're into.
GUTTTTEDDDDD!!!!!!
I missed this and have been F5'ing like a maniac for the last hour.
Please, if anyone has one, and is sitting on the fence, I'd love to take it off your hands.
Would consider swaps if you let me know what you're into.
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by ABC on Mar 19, 2008 13:04:04 GMT 1, In fact to grab one from this BRP, you have to be a flipper or to use something illegal as a software, a backdoor.....
Rubbish......With only an Ed of 150 and some being kept for staff etc, the chance of getting one is slim, have a look at the amount of lurkers that read the threads and dont post then times that by xxx amount. Luck of the draw.
In fact to grab one from this BRP, you have to be a flipper or to use something illegal as a software, a backdoor..... Rubbish......With only an Ed of 150 and some being kept for staff etc, the chance of getting one is slim, have a look at the amount of lurkers that read the threads and dont post then times that by xxx amount. Luck of the draw. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by ABC on Mar 19, 2008 13:07:21 GMT 1, Why the uproar, who ACTUALLY likes these?! Awful. But that's just my opinion ;D
Lol, thats why I'm not bothered, Dface has his core fans and I can sympathise with those who did not get one one, but In my experience of "after release" drips it's all about the money that could have been made but wasn't, harsh but true.
Why the uproar, who ACTUALLY likes these?! Awful. But that's just my opinion ;D Lol, thats why I'm not bothered, Dface has his core fans and I can sympathise with those who did not get one one, but In my experience of "after release" drips it's all about the money that could have been made but wasn't, harsh but true. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by syprux on Mar 19, 2008 13:08:42 GMT 1, In fact to grab one from this BRP, you have to be a flipper or to use something illegal as a software, a backdoor..... Bro, for a newcomer you certainly moan a lot. Do you plan on giving anything positive to the forum before you make your 10th post??
I don't put everyone here in the same basket. I just said I'm complaining because I can't imagine that it has been too fast. I have succeed to grab the last josh keyes and it was also 150 copies but it last around some hours due to website crashs... I didn't expected that it could be so fast, thaw as I am novice on british artists, I just find that ....Strange.
In fact to grab one from this BRP, you have to be a flipper or to use something illegal as a software, a backdoor..... Bro, for a newcomer you certainly moan a lot. Do you plan on giving anything positive to the forum before you make your 10th post?? I don't put everyone here in the same basket. I just said I'm complaining because I can't imagine that it has been too fast. I have succeed to grab the last josh keyes and it was also 150 copies but it last around some hours due to website crashs... I didn't expected that it could be so fast, thaw as I am novice on british artists, I just find that ....Strange. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by displaced bear on Mar 19, 2008 13:11:35 GMT 1, the keyes only survived 7 hours due to the website errors everyone experiences at each step. otherwise if their server could hold up it would've been gone in under a minute i'm sure. the kawasaki release of 90 the other day went in under a minute.
the keyes only survived 7 hours due to the website errors everyone experiences at each step. otherwise if their server could hold up it would've been gone in under a minute i'm sure. the kawasaki release of 90 the other day went in under a minute.
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by sid on Mar 19, 2008 13:14:31 GMT 1, Josh keyes release had over half a million hits - Dface probably more so probably a 1 in 3500 chance of getting one so i think it is a bit harsh to blame the galleries for every release that is sold out in seconds
Josh keyes release had over half a million hits - Dface probably more so probably a 1 in 3500 chance of getting one so i think it is a bit harsh to blame the galleries for every release that is sold out in seconds
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by Winter on Mar 19, 2008 13:16:16 GMT 1, Weakest of the bunch so far
Weakest of the bunch so far
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by syprux on Mar 19, 2008 13:22:10 GMT 1, Josh keyes release had over half a million hits - Dface probably more so probably a 1 in 3500 chance of getting one so i think it is a bit harsh to blame the galleries for every release that is sold out in seconds
Just wanted to know..
Josh keyes release had over half a million hits - Dface probably more so probably a 1 in 3500 chance of getting one so i think it is a bit harsh to blame the galleries for every release that is sold out in seconds Just wanted to know.. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by carlito on Mar 19, 2008 13:22:58 GMT 1, you'd think the discerning flipper would realise there's not a gr8 deal of profit to be made from these and leave em be....
you'd think the discerning flipper would realise there's not a gr8 deal of profit to be made from these and leave em be....
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by Joe J on Mar 19, 2008 13:26:49 GMT 1, 
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by sid on Mar 19, 2008 13:27:26 GMT 1, In that case then yes they do need to address that
Surely not too hard for them to come up with a random set of numbers or letters for each release
In that case then yes they do need to address that
Surely not too hard for them to come up with a random set of numbers or letters for each release
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by syprux on Mar 19, 2008 13:28:13 GMT 1,
GREAT but i supposed already SOLD OUT in seconds
GREAT but i supposed already SOLD OUT in seconds |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by giiiant on Mar 19, 2008 13:28:20 GMT 1,
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by aginghippie on Mar 19, 2008 13:29:39 GMT 1, I don't put everyone here in the same basket. I just said I'm complaining because I can't imagine that it has been too fast.
Do the maths. Lets say people refresh every 5 seconds on average (I think it's probably less) and you have 150 prints it only takes 150x5=750 people to sell the whole thing out in a second. Not a perfect model but you can see why it sells out. If the refresh is quicker it you need less people. So it is already a lottery for popular prints, you have to hit f5 at the right moment.
For what it's worth software is unlikely to help you beyond hitting the Buy key faster because the print still needs to be available and you have to wait for the buy button to appear. The only viable option is guessing what the Buy URL will be and that won't work for some sites like POW which use POST rather than GET.
I don't put everyone here in the same basket. I just said I'm complaining because I can't imagine that it has been too fast. Do the maths. Lets say people refresh every 5 seconds on average (I think it's probably less) and you have 150 prints it only takes 150x5=750 people to sell the whole thing out in a second. Not a perfect model but you can see why it sells out. If the refresh is quicker it you need less people. So it is already a lottery for popular prints, you have to hit f5 at the right moment. For what it's worth software is unlikely to help you beyond hitting the Buy key faster because the print still needs to be available and you have to wait for the buy button to appear. The only viable option is guessing what the Buy URL will be and that won't work for some sites like POW which use POST rather than GET. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by Joe J on Mar 19, 2008 13:39:16 GMT 1, 
Added a bit.
Added a bit. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by kahuna on Mar 19, 2008 16:55:35 GMT 1, Simple demand exceeds supply situation. Not much BRP can do.
If a multi-billion dollar company with the resources of Ticketmaster cannot resolve online ticket sales to flippers, why does anyone expect BRP to be able to achieve this?
BRP provide excellent customer service and have some nice Matt Small prints (that IMO are much more desirable than this D*Face offering) they will happily sell anyone
Simple demand exceeds supply situation. Not much BRP can do.
If a multi-billion dollar company with the resources of Ticketmaster cannot resolve online ticket sales to flippers, why does anyone expect BRP to be able to achieve this?
BRP provide excellent customer service and have some nice Matt Small prints (that IMO are much more desirable than this D*Face offering) they will happily sell anyone
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by pezlow on Mar 19, 2008 17:08:26 GMT 1, BRP provide excellent customer service and have some nice Matt Small prints (that IMO are much more desirable than this D*Face offering) they will happily sell anyone
Yup and some fantastic swoon prints, a belter by logan hicks and 2 slinkachu photographs. But you can't make money flipping those now can you 
BRP provide excellent customer service and have some nice Matt Small prints (that IMO are much more desirable than this D*Face offering) they will happily sell anyone Yup and some fantastic swoon prints, a belter by logan hicks and 2 slinkachu photographs. But you can't make money flipping those now can you |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by onemandown72 on Mar 19, 2008 17:15:17 GMT 1, Looks like the usual damned if you do/ damned if you don't. Gallery give a heads up on time of release, allowing all the chance to buy, they sell out quickly (not a surprise given the greed involved in any urban art) and the response is hackers / back door software / etc.
if they don't release the time available they still sell out incredibly quickly and even more conspiracy theories abound about who had prioir knowledge.
Fair play to the gallery for letting it known when the print was due to be released - and happy fro all those who managed to get one. For those who missed out if you are that desperate for the print I'm sure that it'll be available on the secondary market in the near future. And no I haven't bought one, nor were interested.
Looks like the usual damned if you do/ damned if you don't. Gallery give a heads up on time of release, allowing all the chance to buy, they sell out quickly (not a surprise given the greed involved in any urban art) and the response is hackers / back door software / etc.
if they don't release the time available they still sell out incredibly quickly and even more conspiracy theories abound about who had prioir knowledge.
Fair play to the gallery for letting it known when the print was due to be released - and happy fro all those who managed to get one. For those who missed out if you are that desperate for the print I'm sure that it'll be available on the secondary market in the near future. And no I haven't bought one, nor were interested.
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by spirit on Mar 19, 2008 17:22:32 GMT 1, BRP provide excellent customer service and have some nice Matt Small prints (that IMO are much more desirable than this D*Face offering) they will happily sell anyone Yup and some fantastic swoon prints, a belter by logan hicks and 2 slinkachu photographs. But you can't make money flipping those now can you
Well said. I think that the prints available on BRP are a real indicator of just how many people are into this scene for the money as opposed to the art.
BRP provide excellent customer service and have some nice Matt Small prints (that IMO are much more desirable than this D*Face offering) they will happily sell anyone Yup and some fantastic swoon prints, a belter by logan hicks and 2 slinkachu photographs. But you can't make money flipping those now can you Well said. I think that the prints available on BRP are a real indicator of just how many people are into this scene for the money as opposed to the art. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by jh153 on Mar 19, 2008 17:29:01 GMT 1, 7 minute timeout!- So I felt the usual vertigo when I bagged one!!! followed by an abrupt dissapointment on losing something that was essentially mine. Timeout needs to be doubled thanks. V. unimpressed.
7 minute timeout!- So I felt the usual vertigo when I bagged one!!! followed by an abrupt dissapointment on losing something that was essentially mine. Timeout needs to be doubled thanks. V. unimpressed.
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by shower on Mar 19, 2008 17:45:30 GMT 1, i like the dface street improvement prints but im not going to waste my time refreshing a website all day hoping to get one, as well as spending a grand on getting my hands on all 5, or in this case 300 or 400 on each one off ebay!
i havnt been into this scene for long but when i started buying prints it was all about the popular artists, banksy, dface, faile, eine etc, as it felt like i could get a foot in the door and like the same art as everyone else. they sold out in seconds and it seemed "cool"! im not saying i dont like these artists because i do, i love their work and am lucky to own some of it, but as i have learnt more about street art and this scene i have started to love the smaller less flippable artists too.
i bought both of rene gagnons graffiti soup prints yesterday and that purchase will have given me more pleasure than managing to get a print that sold out in 1second that im not 100% about. i like to have time to think about my purchases as being a student doesnt give me much money to spend. i would rather have the satisfaction of buying a print i know i love rather than one i buy on impulse. i bought the nick walker bristol tma when it was released on his site, it took me a week to decide whether to and i managed to get the last one. i love nicks work but to me 260 was a lot of money and i needed to think it over. since novemeberish time it seems that i am now unable to do this with so many artists and thats why i favour the skills of some smaller artists i apreciate without some t**t buying only to sell on!
i dont think you can fault BRP with this or any other release, demand equals a very quick sell out. its been said that they dont have software on their site to prevent flippers from using software themselves to buy prints. if they could include this like POW apparently do then that would be ace. i have always wanted a banksy and never been able to get one and now it seems i will never be able to buy a dface or add to my nick walkers and my faile print!
i like the dface street improvement prints but im not going to waste my time refreshing a website all day hoping to get one, as well as spending a grand on getting my hands on all 5, or in this case 300 or 400 on each one off ebay!
i havnt been into this scene for long but when i started buying prints it was all about the popular artists, banksy, dface, faile, eine etc, as it felt like i could get a foot in the door and like the same art as everyone else. they sold out in seconds and it seemed "cool"! im not saying i dont like these artists because i do, i love their work and am lucky to own some of it, but as i have learnt more about street art and this scene i have started to love the smaller less flippable artists too.
i bought both of rene gagnons graffiti soup prints yesterday and that purchase will have given me more pleasure than managing to get a print that sold out in 1second that im not 100% about. i like to have time to think about my purchases as being a student doesnt give me much money to spend. i would rather have the satisfaction of buying a print i know i love rather than one i buy on impulse. i bought the nick walker bristol tma when it was released on his site, it took me a week to decide whether to and i managed to get the last one. i love nicks work but to me 260 was a lot of money and i needed to think it over. since novemeberish time it seems that i am now unable to do this with so many artists and thats why i favour the skills of some smaller artists i apreciate without some t**t buying only to sell on!
i dont think you can fault BRP with this or any other release, demand equals a very quick sell out. its been said that they dont have software on their site to prevent flippers from using software themselves to buy prints. if they could include this like POW apparently do then that would be ace. i have always wanted a banksy and never been able to get one and now it seems i will never be able to buy a dface or add to my nick walkers and my faile print!
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by curiousgeorge on Mar 19, 2008 18:05:50 GMT 1, Not that I'm a hacker, but i do know some ethical hackers.And putting a system in place to stop multiple purchases etc just ain't going to cut it. Those that hack for profit would see that as a direct insult/challenge
I know of one office (not sure how many staff) but after Trolleys release, one of them was boasting of dozens being available at around 6k for b&w signed 
And from what i gathered this was just the tip of the iceberg, Micallef, Neate etc,etc. City boys too, greedy cnuts
Not that I'm a hacker, but i do know some ethical hackers.And putting a system in place to stop multiple purchases etc just ain't going to cut it. Those that hack for profit would see that as a direct insult/challenge I know of one office (not sure how many staff) but after Trolleys release, one of them was boasting of dozens being available at around 6k for b&w signed And from what i gathered this was just the tip of the iceberg, Micallef, Neate etc,etc. City boys too, greedy cnuts |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by ABC on Mar 19, 2008 18:12:54 GMT 1, I'm doing an Ethical Hacking course for work soon, taught by some of the best in the country, I will let you know if it's possible.
I'm doing an Ethical Hacking course for work soon, taught by some of the best in the country, I will let you know if it's possible.
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by curiousgeorge on Mar 19, 2008 18:18:50 GMT 1, The best in the country don't teach IMO, they are too busy 'working'
Pentagon + 16/17 yr old in Wales
The best in the country don't teach IMO, they are too busy 'working' Pentagon + 16/17 yr old in Wales |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by savilerogue on Mar 19, 2008 18:25:27 GMT 1, Why the uproar, who ACTUALLY likes these?! Awful. But that's just my opinion ;D
Not me! Glad I didn't have to bother with this bunfight.
Why the uproar, who ACTUALLY likes these?! Awful. But that's just my opinion ;D Not me! Glad I didn't have to bother with this bunfight. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by Avian Security on Mar 19, 2008 18:26:05 GMT 1, "robertlondon", thanks a lot for starting this thread, I missed out on another print due to 10000 lurker-fliptout retards. Please crawl back into your hole and shut the fuck up in future, kthnxbye
"robertlondon", thanks a lot for starting this thread, I missed out on another print due to 10000 lurker-fliptout retards. Please crawl back into your hole and shut the fuck up in future, kthnxbye
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by robinbanks on Mar 19, 2008 18:32:58 GMT 1, Another person complaining about a "heads up" that was pretty much common knowledge.
I only joined this forum 6 months ago, but even then it was a damn sight nicer place to be than it is now.
All I read these days is people whinging, fighting and flipping - I suppose that's what happens whenever money is involved though. 
Another person complaining about a "heads up" that was pretty much common knowledge. I only joined this forum 6 months ago, but even then it was a damn sight nicer place to be than it is now. All I read these days is people whinging, fighting and flipping - I suppose that's what happens whenever money is involved though. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by savilerogue on Mar 19, 2008 18:34:20 GMT 1, Another person complaining about a "heads up" that was pretty much common knowledge. I only joined this forum 6 months ago, but even then it was a damn sight nicer place to be than it is now. All I read these days is people whinging, fighting and flipping - I suppose that's what happens whenever money is involved though.
Yes, this particular whinge is pretty baffling as BRP sent out the details to all on the mailing list. Hardly a state secret.
I think the print's rubbish anyway. Either a lot of people were hoping to make a quick buck or a lot of people have bad taste.
Another person complaining about a "heads up" that was pretty much common knowledge. I only joined this forum 6 months ago, but even then it was a damn sight nicer place to be than it is now. All I read these days is people whinging, fighting and flipping - I suppose that's what happens whenever money is involved though. Yes, this particular whinge is pretty baffling as BRP sent out the details to all on the mailing list. Hardly a state secret. I think the print's rubbish anyway. Either a lot of people were hoping to make a quick buck or a lot of people have bad taste. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by spirit on Mar 19, 2008 18:38:00 GMT 1, Another person complaining about a "heads up" that was pretty much common knowledge. I only joined this forum 6 months ago, but even then it was a damn sight nicer place to be than it is now. All I read these days is people whinging, fighting and flipping - I suppose that's what happens whenever money is involved though.
and - I can't believe I'm actually saying this - no respect system... after all money has always been involved, nothing's changed there.
Another person complaining about a "heads up" that was pretty much common knowledge. I only joined this forum 6 months ago, but even then it was a damn sight nicer place to be than it is now. All I read these days is people whinging, fighting and flipping - I suppose that's what happens whenever money is involved though. and - I can't believe I'm actually saying this - no respect system... after all money has always been involved, nothing's changed there. |
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DFace Street Improvement Prints, by robertlondon on Mar 19, 2008 18:39:05 GMT 1, ... a real indicator of just how many people are into this scene for the money as opposed to the art.
I seem to recall a poll on this site in November 2007 which showed over 80% of people on this forum said there was a financial element to their collection (be it short/long term profit or investment)
... a real indicator of just how many people are into this scene for the money as opposed to the art. |
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