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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by slowmo on Jun 14, 2008 12:43:14 GMT 1, Any chance of pics from you last weekends work? Or should I just give up
Any chance of pics from you last weekends work? Or should I just give up
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by thebleedingedge on Jun 14, 2008 12:47:41 GMT 1, As a last word from me, I'm gonna let you guys chat about it, call me all the names and justify your static opinions ("I'm no great fan of D but spent 5 hours defending him last time too") and then when the dust settles I'll be back and show you why we did what we did.
If you still don't agree with it then, then I don't want to be on the same page as you... just because you don't have access to the facts doesnt mean they aren't there.
As a last word from me, I'm gonna let you guys chat about it, call me all the names and justify your static opinions ("I'm no great fan of D but spent 5 hours defending him last time too") and then when the dust settles I'll be back and show you why we did what we did.
If you still don't agree with it then, then I don't want to be on the same page as you... just because you don't have access to the facts doesnt mean they aren't there.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by thebleedingedge on Jun 14, 2008 12:50:03 GMT 1, slowmo: check the thread, find my site, talk to girona.. you have options, but I can't hang around here
P.S. Could someone just get me nicked already?
slowmo: check the thread, find my site, talk to girona.. you have options, but I can't hang around here
P.S. Could someone just get me nicked already?
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by slowmo on Jun 14, 2008 12:51:20 GMT 1, Seen the site, asked girona to post, but what are the two things that went up last weekend? Was it the bubble tank?
Seen the site, asked girona to post, but what are the two things that went up last weekend? Was it the bubble tank?
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 14, 2008 12:56:11 GMT 1, As a last word from me, I'm gonna let you guys chat about it, call me all the names and justify your static opinions ("I'm no great fan of D but spent 5 hours defending him last time too") and then when the dust settles I'll be back and show you why we did what we did. If you still don't agree with it then, then I don't want to be on the same page as you... just because you don't have access to the facts doesnt mean they aren't there.
If you are going to stop posting just stop posting. I have read that from you twice now...
if you are trying to help yourself you are doing no favours on here my friend.
im off to appreciate some tox tagging on london transport.
As a last word from me, I'm gonna let you guys chat about it, call me all the names and justify your static opinions ("I'm no great fan of D but spent 5 hours defending him last time too") and then when the dust settles I'll be back and show you why we did what we did. If you still don't agree with it then, then I don't want to be on the same page as you... just because you don't have access to the facts doesnt mean they aren't there. If you are going to stop posting just stop posting. I have read that from you twice now... if you are trying to help yourself you are doing no favours on here my friend. im off to appreciate some tox tagging on london transport.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by sahoria on Jun 14, 2008 12:59:46 GMT 1, no offence - world doesnt revolve around you police have alot more better things to do i would say than deal with your one man protest...
its almost as if you think it is cool that comment about police arresting you already... well done you have read personal emails between d* and alot of his fans.. you release any of that then no one will be contacting you because you will prove to everyone that nothing they send to you is safe...
sell your prints but keep it a low edition so you can come back on here and say they all completely sold out... no doubt your thinking of doing odd few paste ups of that image aswell...
all this oh talk about it and then we will release more information is a annoying also... the time you had everyones attention you could have said whatever issues you have with d* but instead you didnt... so no doubt page will grow to 5 or 6 and then will go quiet... then you will be back and even less people will comment... s
no offence - world doesnt revolve around you police have alot more better things to do i would say than deal with your one man protest...
its almost as if you think it is cool that comment about police arresting you already... well done you have read personal emails between d* and alot of his fans.. you release any of that then no one will be contacting you because you will prove to everyone that nothing they send to you is safe...
sell your prints but keep it a low edition so you can come back on here and say they all completely sold out... no doubt your thinking of doing odd few paste ups of that image aswell...
all this oh talk about it and then we will release more information is a annoying also... the time you had everyones attention you could have said whatever issues you have with d* but instead you didnt... so no doubt page will grow to 5 or 6 and then will go quiet... then you will be back and even less people will comment... s
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 14, 2008 13:00:12 GMT 1, P.S. Could someone just get me nicked already?
All i can imagine is a weeping 15 year old being dragged from a musty bedroom by the police past his parents and out the front door to be slapped on the hand and told he is a naughty naughty boy.
street cred this is not.
P.S. Could someone just get me nicked already? All i can imagine is a weeping 15 year old being dragged from a musty bedroom by the police past his parents and out the front door to be slapped on the hand and told he is a naughty naughty boy. street cred this is not.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by Daniel Silk on Jun 14, 2008 13:00:15 GMT 1, Sorry BleedingEdge but Im just confused.
Can you tell us all what your beef with D*Face is, as clear and simple as you can within two or three sentences.
Thanks!
Sorry BleedingEdge but Im just confused. Can you tell us all what your beef with D*Face is, as clear and simple as you can within two or three sentences. Thanks!
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 14, 2008 13:01:56 GMT 1, i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site.
i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop.
J
i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site.
i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by graeme501 on Jun 14, 2008 13:05:08 GMT 1, out of interest, bleeding edge, u said that a few days ago i would feel stupid, and would hate you
well tbh, i feel quite chuffed and i got it 100% right, you seem to be trying to drum up a name for urself, ooooh i done some work on the streets, ill put some pictures up, no i wont, i hacked dface's site ... check me out, please will somebody give me a nickname
after all this fanfare leading upto, well nothing really, i feel a bit embarrased for u
out of interest, bleeding edge, u said that a few days ago i would feel stupid, and would hate you
well tbh, i feel quite chuffed and i got it 100% right, you seem to be trying to drum up a name for urself, ooooh i done some work on the streets, ill put some pictures up, no i wont, i hacked dface's site ... check me out, please will somebody give me a nickname
after all this fanfare leading upto, well nothing really, i feel a bit embarrased for u
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 14, 2008 13:10:04 GMT 1, an absolute clown
an absolute clown
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by dmandpenfold on Jun 14, 2008 13:33:18 GMT 1, agree with bigman, banning's just censorship.........we're almost back to the mugabe thread
agree with bigman, banning's just censorship.........we're almost back to the mugabe thread
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by felix on Jun 14, 2008 13:35:03 GMT 1, Debate is always good, he's no Fatherxmas
Debate is always good, he's no Fatherxmas
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by curiousgeorge on Jun 14, 2008 13:51:25 GMT 1, Reading between the lines, i think BE is trying to say. Most forum members have been sucked into a silly game which involves street art 'selling out', with more than a few forum members being some of people who pushed the gravy train along?
Last summer was a prime example of this, with eyes wide open it's clear to see. Of course many people say they buy things they like, and don't care about the value going up or down, this is IMO utter tosh.But ego's won't allow people to admit this.
I myself can see glaring examples of this in this thread, i fear it's totally lost on those who shout the loudest too
Reading between the lines, i think BE is trying to say. Most forum members have been sucked into a silly game which involves street art 'selling out', with more than a few forum members being some of people who pushed the gravy train along?
Last summer was a prime example of this, with eyes wide open it's clear to see. Of course many people say they buy things they like, and don't care about the value going up or down, this is IMO utter tosh.But ego's won't allow people to admit this.
I myself can see glaring examples of this in this thread, i fear it's totally lost on those who shout the loudest too
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by felix on Jun 14, 2008 14:11:01 GMT 1, I think everyone understands what he is saying, he has some valid points, but also talks some crap ones which I always get annoyed at:
Why should rich people be wankers if they are spending their money on something they want?
Why should someone who takes an interest in this type of art today be punished as they weren't their from the beginning? (eg I have only just discovered jaffa cakes, doesn't mean I don't love them)
Why all this hate for D*Face?
Read this interview
www.fecalface.com/SF/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1097&Itemid=92
and many others as he does not proclaim to be core street. Why do people attack him for not being a graffiti street artist, he is just doing something he loves.
Anyway, the phone is ringing.
I think everyone understands what he is saying, he has some valid points, but also talks some crap ones which I always get annoyed at: Why should rich people be wankers if they are spending their money on something they want? Why should someone who takes an interest in this type of art today be punished as they weren't their from the beginning? (eg I have only just discovered jaffa cakes, doesn't mean I don't love them) Why all this hate for D*Face? Read this interview www.fecalface.com/SF/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1097&Itemid=92 and many others as he does not proclaim to be core street. Why do people attack him for not being a graffiti street artist, he is just doing something he loves. Anyway, the phone is ringing.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Jun 14, 2008 15:06:15 GMT 1, i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site. i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop. J
who the fuck do you think you are?
that is the second time you have done that, trying to get someone removed who's views you can't understand and who makes you look stupid...
you may have got your way with ruralhick, but frankly i'd rather have bleedingedge on here than a sanctimonious graphic designer with a crush on d*face and a fucking jay-z avatar!
BE is so much more relevant to this scene than a "massively respected ebay collector"
i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site. i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop. J who the fuck do you think you are? that is the second time you have done that, trying to get someone removed who's views you can't understand and who makes you look stupid... you may have got your way with ruralhick, but frankly i'd rather have bleedingedge on here than a sanctimonious graphic designer with a crush on d*face and a fucking jay-z avatar! BE is so much more relevant to this scene than a "massively respected ebay collector"
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by Avian Security on Jun 14, 2008 15:12:44 GMT 1, TBE you have stirred things up a bit and you make some good points. However this is all overshadowed by your mindblowing level of arrogance. You insult everyone on this forum and all similar ones in one fell swoop, tarring everyone with the same "rich wanker mug" brush. This coming from someone who violently objects to being "put in a box". Every post you write smacks of the clique-ism and bullshit, pointless lawbreaker camaraderie that the "old school writers" you love are so full of. What you're basically saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that if someone doesn't live on economy beans and white toast, steal paint and get arrested at least once a month, then he isn't legit as an artist. If anyone dares to sell a picture, to try and make some money and do well for themselves, they're a sellout. Let me point something out. People just don't like old school graffiti and tags because 99% of it is total crap. It's a fucking eyesore and it's all about ego, all about the "look at me I'm badass", trying to get a name for yourself and look street. But you don't fool anyone, everyone knows most writers are obsessive geeks rather than the badass str33t gangsta you imply you are. People buy stuff by Banksy and others because they like it. They DON'T buy stuff by the likes of you because they don't fucking like it and they never will. Stop being a loudmouth martyr and get a fucking job, nobody cares that your stomach is rumbling, especially since there's a good chance you've tagged their house and they're going to have to paint over it now. Cunt.
TBE you have stirred things up a bit and you make some good points. However this is all overshadowed by your mindblowing level of arrogance. You insult everyone on this forum and all similar ones in one fell swoop, tarring everyone with the same "rich wanker mug" brush. This coming from someone who violently objects to being "put in a box". Every post you write smacks of the clique-ism and bullshit, pointless lawbreaker camaraderie that the "old school writers" you love are so full of. What you're basically saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that if someone doesn't live on economy beans and white toast, steal paint and get arrested at least once a month, then he isn't legit as an artist. If anyone dares to sell a picture, to try and make some money and do well for themselves, they're a sellout. Let me point something out. People just don't like old school graffiti and tags because 99% of it is total crap. It's a fucking eyesore and it's all about ego, all about the "look at me I'm badass", trying to get a name for yourself and look street. But you don't fool anyone, everyone knows most writers are obsessive geeks rather than the badass str33t gangsta you imply you are. People buy stuff by Banksy and others because they like it. They DON'T buy stuff by the likes of you because they don't fucking like it and they never will. Stop being a loudmouth martyr and get a fucking job, nobody cares that your stomach is rumbling, especially since there's a good chance you've tagged their house and they're going to have to paint over it now. Cunt.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by carlito on Jun 14, 2008 15:15:45 GMT 1, Reading between the lines, i think BE is trying to say. Most forum members have been sucked into a silly game which involves street art 'selling out', with more than a few forum members being some of people who pushed the gravy train along? Last summer was a prime example of this, with eyes wide open it's clear to see. Of course many people say they buy things they like, and don't care about the value going up or down, this is IMO utter tosh.But ego's won't allow people to admit this. I myself can see glaring examples of this in this thread, i fear it's totally lost on those who shout the loudest too
gr8 post CG .... this thread amazes me because yet again certain people seem to have totally forgotten where this movement came from and what it's about....BE aint well schooled in making his point eloquently but I'd rather read his entertaing rants than another 'why are you all selling your street improvements?' (because this hits the value of my collection pieces)
Reading between the lines, i think BE is trying to say. Most forum members have been sucked into a silly game which involves street art 'selling out', with more than a few forum members being some of people who pushed the gravy train along? Last summer was a prime example of this, with eyes wide open it's clear to see. Of course many people say they buy things they like, and don't care about the value going up or down, this is IMO utter tosh.But ego's won't allow people to admit this. I myself can see glaring examples of this in this thread, i fear it's totally lost on those who shout the loudest too gr8 post CG .... this thread amazes me because yet again certain people seem to have totally forgotten where this movement came from and what it's about....BE aint well schooled in making his point eloquently but I'd rather read his entertaing rants than another 'why are you all selling your street improvements?' (because this hits the value of my collection pieces)
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by carlito on Jun 14, 2008 15:17:30 GMT 1, i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site. i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop. J why not jboy? its a forum to discuss art! thats whats happening a good debate? no just cause you dont agree with someone they should not get band, when we have people on the forum and get up everyones nose they are still here!!(remember when lots wanted you banned?) if you agree with bleede or not he makes some valid points even though sometimes he may go about it the wrong way. i think debate is a good thing, just dont need all the slagging and playground bulls**t my 10p
thank fuck there's still some common sense left here - good post my man
i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site. i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop. J why not jboy? its a forum to discuss art! thats whats happening a good debate? no just cause you dont agree with someone they should not get band, when we have people on the forum and get up everyones nose they are still here!!(remember when lots wanted you banned?) if you agree with bleede or not he makes some valid points even though sometimes he may go about it the wrong way. i think debate is a good thing, just dont need all the slagging and playground bulls**t my 10p thank fuck there's still some common sense left here - good post my man
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by Avian Security on Jun 14, 2008 15:22:26 GMT 1, why not jboy? its a forum to discuss art! thats whats happening a good debate? no just cause you dont agree with someone they should not get band, when we have people on the forum and get up everyones nose they are still here!!(remember when lots wanted you banned?) if you agree with bleede or not he makes some valid points even though sometimes he may go about it the wrong way. i think debate is a good thing, just dont need all the slagging and playground bulls**t my 10p thank f**k there's still some common sense left here - good post my man
Yeah good point, I may not agree with thebleedingedge but banning him would be criminal.
why not jboy? its a forum to discuss art! thats whats happening a good debate? no just cause you dont agree with someone they should not get band, when we have people on the forum and get up everyones nose they are still here!!(remember when lots wanted you banned?) if you agree with bleede or not he makes some valid points even though sometimes he may go about it the wrong way. i think debate is a good thing, just dont need all the slagging and playground bulls**t my 10p thank f**k there's still some common sense left here - good post my man Yeah good point, I may not agree with thebleedingedge but banning him would be criminal.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by Daniel Silk on Jun 14, 2008 15:44:15 GMT 1, "The scene has been hijacked by money.. some of us are still doing our thing though."
Maybe the scene BleedingEdge is in is just not the same one as D*Face? Everyone has their own angle and direction, maybe D*Face has moved out of your scene (if he was ever in it) into one where its ok to sell to the rich and famous along with Banksy.
"The scene has been hijacked by money.. some of us are still doing our thing though."
Maybe the scene BleedingEdge is in is just not the same one as D*Face? Everyone has their own angle and direction, maybe D*Face has moved out of your scene (if he was ever in it) into one where its ok to sell to the rich and famous along with Banksy.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by Daniel Silk on Jun 14, 2008 15:48:13 GMT 1, "The scene has been hijacked by money.. some of us are still doing our thing though." Maybe the scene BleedingEdge is in is just not the same one as D*Face? Everyone has their own angle and direction, maybe D*Face has moved out of your scene (if he was ever in it) into one where its ok to sell to the rich and famous along with Banksy.
What Im saying is that maybe D* never realised that being part of a "Scene" you must follow some unwritten rules and if you dont you get your site hacked
"The scene has been hijacked by money.. some of us are still doing our thing though." Maybe the scene BleedingEdge is in is just not the same one as D*Face? Everyone has their own angle and direction, maybe D*Face has moved out of your scene (if he was ever in it) into one where its ok to sell to the rich and famous along with Banksy. What Im saying is that maybe D* never realised that being part of a "Scene" you must follow some unwritten rules and if you dont you get your site hacked
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by graeme501 on Jun 14, 2008 15:53:31 GMT 1, "The scene has been hijacked by money.. some of us are still doing our thing though."
bleeding edge, u seem to be pissed off that some artists are doing well out of selling their art, whereas you are either not doing well, or not wanting to sell the stuff you make
its good that you are doing street stuff because you clearly feel very strongly about it, but ur ego and bitterness about artists earing money has overshadowed what you do on the streets, which you still havent posted any pics of yet
"The scene has been hijacked by money.. some of us are still doing our thing though."
bleeding edge, u seem to be pissed off that some artists are doing well out of selling their art, whereas you are either not doing well, or not wanting to sell the stuff you make
its good that you are doing street stuff because you clearly feel very strongly about it, but ur ego and bitterness about artists earing money has overshadowed what you do on the streets, which you still havent posted any pics of yet
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 14, 2008 16:28:28 GMT 1, i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site. i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop. J who the f**k do you think you are? that is the second time you have done that, trying to get someone removed who's views you can't understand and who makes you look stupid... you may have got your way with ruralhick, but frankly i'd rather have bleedingedge on here than a sanctimonious graphic designer with a crush on d*face and a f**king jay-z avatar! BE is so much more relevant to this scene than a "massively respected ebay collector"
<--- Who's she?
i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site. i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop. J who the f**k do you think you are? that is the second time you have done that, trying to get someone removed who's views you can't understand and who makes you look stupid... you may have got your way with ruralhick, but frankly i'd rather have bleedingedge on here than a sanctimonious graphic designer with a crush on d*face and a f**king jay-z avatar! BE is so much more relevant to this scene than a "massively respected ebay collector" <--- Who's she?
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Jun 14, 2008 17:23:33 GMT 1, who the f**k do you think you are? that is the second time you have done that, trying to get someone removed who's views you can't understand and who makes you look stupid... you may have got your way with ruralhick, but frankly i'd rather have bleedingedge on here than a sanctimonious graphic designer with a crush on d*face and a f**king jay-z avatar! BE is so much more relevant to this scene than a "massively respected ebay collector" <--- Who's she?
nice one.
your wit is one of the reasons you consider yourself a better "community member" no doubt
who the f**k do you think you are? that is the second time you have done that, trying to get someone removed who's views you can't understand and who makes you look stupid... you may have got your way with ruralhick, but frankly i'd rather have bleedingedge on here than a sanctimonious graphic designer with a crush on d*face and a f**king jay-z avatar! BE is so much more relevant to this scene than a "massively respected ebay collector" <--- Who's she? nice one. your wit is one of the reasons you consider yourself a better "community member" no doubt
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 14, 2008 17:27:05 GMT 1, there she is!
peekaboo!!
cute.
there she is!
peekaboo!!
cute.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Jun 14, 2008 17:32:55 GMT 1, fucking hell...
i'll leave it before you embarrass yourself further.
fucking hell...
i'll leave it before you embarrass yourself further.
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by alsbabar on Jun 14, 2008 17:51:54 GMT 1, i dont give two hoots for BE's opinion or reasons, hacking someones site, accessing peoples personal data and then using it to shame people on forums is pathetic and of the worst kind, actually its not art, its criminal. Tagging is the worst kind of graffiti, it shows the lowest form of creation.
So while some of you may agree with his/her/its view, I dont, I dont see the justification or the glory in it.
Why doesnt BE also hack other artist sites, like Banksy, Walker, or any other that has commissioned a piece, had shows in galleries, and sell pieces? The fact that its just D's site that is getting his/her/its wrath, smacks of more sinister reasons rather than artistic
i dont give two hoots for BE's opinion or reasons, hacking someones site, accessing peoples personal data and then using it to shame people on forums is pathetic and of the worst kind, actually its not art, its criminal. Tagging is the worst kind of graffiti, it shows the lowest form of creation.
So while some of you may agree with his/her/its view, I dont, I dont see the justification or the glory in it.
Why doesnt BE also hack other artist sites, like Banksy, Walker, or any other that has commissioned a piece, had shows in galleries, and sell pieces? The fact that its just D's site that is getting his/her/its wrath, smacks of more sinister reasons rather than artistic
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D*Face Website HACKED Again!, by bullet on Jun 14, 2008 17:54:45 GMT 1, Thats what im talking about alsbabar - its stupid to be even supporting this activity, its past art and into major criminal activity which carries a bigger sentence than a slap on the wrist and a visit from the social worker like she will get
Thats what im talking about alsbabar - its stupid to be even supporting this activity, its past art and into major criminal activity which carries a bigger sentence than a slap on the wrist and a visit from the social worker like she will get
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