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Faile - Buy Now, by dirk on Jul 3, 2008 18:44:00 GMT 1, Still up this evening at 6.40.
Any thoughts on why this hasn't sold out in seconds? Price? Image? Edition number?
Still up this evening at 6.40.
Any thoughts on why this hasn't sold out in seconds? Price? Image? Edition number?
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iAmCxxx
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Faile - Buy Now, by iAmCxxx on Jul 3, 2008 18:48:42 GMT 1, Slightly off topic here but I bought one of these on monday and although I've got my Paypal receipt and the money's certainly gone I've heard nowt from Faile yet. Is this normal? Am I being paranoid?
Slightly off topic here but I bought one of these on monday and although I've got my Paypal receipt and the money's certainly gone I've heard nowt from Faile yet. Is this normal? Am I being paranoid?
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Faile - Buy Now, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Jul 3, 2008 18:51:41 GMT 1, Slightly off topic here but I bought one of these on monday and although I've got my Paypal receipt and the money's certainly gone I've heard nowt from Faile yet. Is this normal? Am I being paranoid?
it's a pre-order, plus you only have a paypal receipt for 'normal' faile purchases....
Slightly off topic here but I bought one of these on monday and although I've got my Paypal receipt and the money's certainly gone I've heard nowt from Faile yet. Is this normal? Am I being paranoid? it's a pre-order, plus you only have a paypal receipt for 'normal' faile purchases....
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Faile - Buy Now, by melmoth on Jul 3, 2008 18:52:41 GMT 1, Slightly off topic here but I bought one of these on monday and although I've got my Paypal receipt and the money's certainly gone I've heard nowt from Faile yet. Is this normal? Am I being paranoid?
A little I think. This print is a pre-order at this point, so I wouldn't expect anything immediately.
Slightly off topic here but I bought one of these on monday and although I've got my Paypal receipt and the money's certainly gone I've heard nowt from Faile yet. Is this normal? Am I being paranoid? A little I think. This print is a pre-order at this point, so I wouldn't expect anything immediately.
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iAmCxxx
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Faile - Buy Now, by iAmCxxx on Jul 3, 2008 18:55:14 GMT 1, Yeah, I know it's a pre-order but when Paypal yoiks ยฃ700 straight out of your bank account you kinda want to know it's gone to the right place........... I'm sure it's cool.
Yeah, I know it's a pre-order but when Paypal yoiks ยฃ700 straight out of your bank account you kinda want to know it's gone to the right place........... I'm sure it's cool.
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Prescription Art
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Faile - Buy Now, by Prescription Art on Jul 3, 2008 19:15:52 GMT 1, Still up this evening at 6.40. Any thoughts on why this hasn't sold out in seconds? Price? Image? Edition number?
ยฃ600 for an edition of 315... plus it doesn't look up to their usual screenprinted sexiness. For that reason, i'm out.
Still up this evening at 6.40. Any thoughts on why this hasn't sold out in seconds? Price? Image? Edition number? ยฃ600 for an edition of 315... plus it doesn't look up to their usual screenprinted sexiness. For that reason, i'm out.
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Andy'77
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Faile - Buy Now, by Andy'77 on Jul 3, 2008 19:22:18 GMT 1, I think I'll reserve judgement until I see some close up pictures of it. I loved the image at the Tate but I'm just thinking there's way too much colour and detail for the size of the print, I guess the onscreen preview is too small to get a good idea. Will wait til mid August when folks' start arriving and hopefully then pick one up near cost on ebay if I like.
I think I'll reserve judgement until I see some close up pictures of it. I loved the image at the Tate but I'm just thinking there's way too much colour and detail for the size of the print, I guess the onscreen preview is too small to get a good idea. Will wait til mid August when folks' start arriving and hopefully then pick one up near cost on ebay if I like.
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tmccarthy41
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Faile - Buy Now, by tmccarthy41 on Jul 3, 2008 19:27:21 GMT 1, I missed out on all the lotteries, and still haven't bought a BIN print.... I guess its the image, because edition size doesn't bother me ever...
really gutted about missing the Brett Hart original........
I missed out on all the lotteries, and still haven't bought a BIN print.... I guess its the image, because edition size doesn't bother me ever...
really gutted about missing the Brett Hart original........
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iAmCxxx
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Faile - Buy Now, by iAmCxxx on Jul 3, 2008 19:31:40 GMT 1, It's all about the 'relief print' aspect that's going to be a winner with this. We're not talking pushing ink through screens here...we're talking cutting 25 different magnesium plates and then stamping each individual colour. I may be wrong but the screen image is not the print. The print is going to be amazing in it's finish. ยฃ700 quid is expensive maybe...but not for the technique used. It must be costing them dollar and plenty time to get the plates ready and that's why it's delivery in august... Anyone got a 25 colour relief print on their wall at the moment....? Seriously, when the reality of this print hits people are going to be kicking themselves all the way to the bay...
It's all about the 'relief print' aspect that's going to be a winner with this. We're not talking pushing ink through screens here...we're talking cutting 25 different magnesium plates and then stamping each individual colour. I may be wrong but the screen image is not the print. The print is going to be amazing in it's finish. ยฃ700 quid is expensive maybe...but not for the technique used. It must be costing them dollar and plenty time to get the plates ready and that's why it's delivery in august... Anyone got a 25 colour relief print on their wall at the moment....? Seriously, when the reality of this print hits people are going to be kicking themselves all the way to the bay...
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bunnyboy
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Faile - Buy Now, by bunnyboy on Jul 3, 2008 19:35:37 GMT 1, I think genuine collectors may choose not to buy one of these for any of the reasons you mention - they're all valid. However, it's sad to say it, but I think a large proportion of the market is made up by flippers and I don't think they're biting on this one. As it's so expensive, it's quite a risk, especially as it's a large edition and with the market being as it is at the moment. I think putting off the flippers was partly what Faile wanted to achieve with this one (along with a nice bank balance - I'm guessing that's why it's a pre-order system too. People are less likely to buy to flip if they have to wait almost 2 months (and more than 1 credit card month) before payback.
Personally, I bought one and can't wait to see it. Love the piece at the Tate and think this will be a nice way to remember it.
I think genuine collectors may choose not to buy one of these for any of the reasons you mention - they're all valid. However, it's sad to say it, but I think a large proportion of the market is made up by flippers and I don't think they're biting on this one. As it's so expensive, it's quite a risk, especially as it's a large edition and with the market being as it is at the moment. I think putting off the flippers was partly what Faile wanted to achieve with this one (along with a nice bank balance - I'm guessing that's why it's a pre-order system too. People are less likely to buy to flip if they have to wait almost 2 months (and more than 1 credit card month) before payback. Personally, I bought one and can't wait to see it. Love the piece at the Tate and think this will be a nice way to remember it.
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dirk
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Faile - Buy Now, by dirk on Jul 3, 2008 19:35:48 GMT 1, Still think you can pick up a Fight for ยฃ600 on ebay which is a fantastic price taking on board the better image, hand finishing and smaller run size. Expect to see these snapped up sooner or later.
I am glad I got my Confessions now as I think it will appear a right bargain in 6 months time (my favourite image and I don't think I could ever part with it!)
Still think you can pick up a Fight for ยฃ600 on ebay which is a fantastic price taking on board the better image, hand finishing and smaller run size. Expect to see these snapped up sooner or later.
I am glad I got my Confessions now as I think it will appear a right bargain in 6 months time (my favourite image and I don't think I could ever part with it!)
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dirk
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Faile - Buy Now, by dirk on Jul 3, 2008 19:40:27 GMT 1, Bunnyboy - agree with your comments, appears to have scared the flippers. I think you will see the next Banksy signed print around the 2k mark from the off. The days of people being able to buy something for pennies and sell for big bucks minutes later are well over.
Bunnyboy - agree with your comments, appears to have scared the flippers. I think you will see the next Banksy signed print around the 2k mark from the off. The days of people being able to buy something for pennies and sell for big bucks minutes later are well over.
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Faile - Buy Now, by bunnyboy on Jul 3, 2008 19:45:31 GMT 1, To be honest, I'm not sure it would be a bad thing. I don't have a massive art budget by any means but anything that means I would have time to buy the prints I like without having to resort to hours spent refreshing a web page / eBay would be great.
To be honest, I'm not sure it would be a bad thing. I don't have a massive art budget by any means but anything that means I would have time to buy the prints I like without having to resort to hours spent refreshing a web page / eBay would be great.
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Faile - Buy Now, by brun on Jul 3, 2008 19:54:49 GMT 1, hasnt sold out cos the flippers are put off ...... and the faile lovers cant afford it and a go on the lotto ! some ยฃ600 for a 25 colour print i think thats worthwhile if you can stretch .
hasnt sold out cos the flippers are put off ...... and the faile lovers cant afford it and a go on the lotto ! some ยฃ600 for a 25 colour print i think thats worthwhile if you can stretch .
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daddychaps
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Faile - Buy Now, by daddychaps on Jul 3, 2008 19:57:19 GMT 1, I am glad its still around. If i dont luck out with the Q's (once the multiples are dropped), i will pick one up! Will probs always view it as a second option though!
I am glad its still around. If i dont luck out with the Q's (once the multiples are dropped), i will pick one up! Will probs always view it as a second option though!
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Faile - Buy Now, by Argiebaji on Jul 3, 2008 20:11:44 GMT 1, It's all about the 'relief print' aspect that's going to be a winner with this. We're not talking pushing ink through screens here...we're talking cutting 25 different magnesium plates and then stamping each individual colour. I may be wrong but the screen image is not the print. The print is going to be amazing in it's finish. ยฃ700 quid is expensive maybe...but not for the technique used. It must be costing them dollar and plenty time to get the plates ready and that's why it's delivery in august... Anyone got a 25 colour relief print on their wall at the moment....? Seriously, when the reality of this print hits people are going to be kicking themselves all the way to the bay...
What exactly does the word 'relief' mean then in this case? Is it slightly raised ?
It's all about the 'relief print' aspect that's going to be a winner with this. We're not talking pushing ink through screens here...we're talking cutting 25 different magnesium plates and then stamping each individual colour. I may be wrong but the screen image is not the print. The print is going to be amazing in it's finish. ยฃ700 quid is expensive maybe...but not for the technique used. It must be costing them dollar and plenty time to get the plates ready and that's why it's delivery in august... Anyone got a 25 colour relief print on their wall at the moment....? Seriously, when the reality of this print hits people are going to be kicking themselves all the way to the bay... What exactly does the word 'relief' mean then in this case? Is it slightly raised ?
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Faile - Buy Now, by snakes on Jul 3, 2008 20:44:08 GMT 1, Still think you can pick up a Fight for ยฃ600 on ebay which is a fantastic price taking on board the better image, hand finishing and smaller run size. Expect to see these snapped up sooner or later. I am glad I got my Confessions now as I think it will appear a right bargain in 6 months time (my favourite image and I don't think I could ever part with it!)
The boxers are poop. If I had the money I would but the BIN print anytime - it's a nice looking print and I am sure in the flesh it will look 10x's better.
Still think you can pick up a Fight for ยฃ600 on ebay which is a fantastic price taking on board the better image, hand finishing and smaller run size. Expect to see these snapped up sooner or later. I am glad I got my Confessions now as I think it will appear a right bargain in 6 months time (my favourite image and I don't think I could ever part with it!) The boxers are poop. If I had the money I would but the BIN print anytime - it's a nice looking print and I am sure in the flesh it will look 10x's better.
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iAmCxxx
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Faile - Buy Now, by iAmCxxx on Jul 3, 2008 20:56:05 GMT 1, Don't know what the effect's going to be but I'm thinking that if Faile are going to all the effort to do this technique then it's going to be worth it. They are the artists after all..... (Well I hope so anyway)
Don't know what the effect's going to be but I'm thinking that if Faile are going to all the effort to do this technique then it's going to be worth it. They are the artists after all..... (Well I hope so anyway)
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iAmCxxx
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Faile - Buy Now, by iAmCxxx on Jul 3, 2008 20:57:25 GMT 1, ... I hope so meaning "it's going to be worth it", not that "they are the artists"...
... I hope so meaning "it's going to be worth it", not that "they are the artists"...
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Faile - Buy Now, by sputnikeye on Jul 3, 2008 21:05:17 GMT 1, i think it'll be fantastic a 25 colour relief print, like's been said it isn't a squeegee and a screen pushing ink
i think it'll be fantastic a 25 colour relief print, like's been said it isn't a squeegee and a screen pushing ink
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Faile - Buy Now, by themightyreds on Jul 4, 2008 10:12:30 GMT 1, A guy i work with had his fight vanity print arrive yesterday and its a real cracker! I'm gutted i missed out on it. That being that, i can only imagine this print being equally as stunning in its own way when it arrives.
& I think its great its still available as at the price it is its given people time to make their minds up about how much they want it. The fact that the fight vanitys are only selling for about ยฃ100 over cost, and that it won't be sent out until well after the credit card bills are in are probably whats keeping the flippers interest in this one down.
A guy i work with had his fight vanity print arrive yesterday and its a real cracker! I'm gutted i missed out on it. That being that, i can only imagine this print being equally as stunning in its own way when it arrives.
& I think its great its still available as at the price it is its given people time to make their minds up about how much they want it. The fact that the fight vanitys are only selling for about ยฃ100 over cost, and that it won't be sent out until well after the credit card bills are in are probably whats keeping the flippers interest in this one down.
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Faile - Buy Now, by angryboy on Jul 4, 2008 10:21:44 GMT 1, I would love one of these but I said I'd wait till after the lotto and as that went well I must stick by my guns. It's not my favourite Faile image either but I would love to see one in the flesh due to the technique and the fact's it's the Tate image.
It's an affordable way to have some of Faile's trademark torn stuff on the wall too.
I would love one of these but I said I'd wait till after the lotto and as that went well I must stick by my guns. It's not my favourite Faile image either but I would love to see one in the flesh due to the technique and the fact's it's the Tate image.
It's an affordable way to have some of Faile's trademark torn stuff on the wall too.
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Faile - Buy Now, by angryboy on Jul 4, 2008 10:24:19 GMT 1, And are flippers really part of the market as someone said earlier? The market is the end buyer not the chain it's gone down to get to them. There has to be at least one end purchaser for every flipped image so they don't add to demand/the market, merely act as an inefficiency in the market.
And are flippers really part of the market as someone said earlier? The market is the end buyer not the chain it's gone down to get to them. There has to be at least one end purchaser for every flipped image so they don't add to demand/the market, merely act as an inefficiency in the market.
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Faile - Buy Now, by bunnyboy on Jul 4, 2008 10:29:25 GMT 1, That's a good point, angryboy - didn't think of it like that. I do think that flippers buying up a print until its sold out stimulates demand though. People always want what they can't have..
That's a good point, angryboy - didn't think of it like that. I do think that flippers buying up a print until its sold out stimulates demand though. People always want what they can't have..
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Faile - Buy Now, by angryboy on Jul 4, 2008 10:31:44 GMT 1, Aye, I'd agree that the sell out factor probably affects desirability.
Aye, I'd agree that the sell out factor probably affects desirability.
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Faile - Buy Now, by daddychaps on Jul 4, 2008 12:10:20 GMT 1, As soon as this sells out there will be 20 of them on ebay with a buy it now of ยฃ2k!
Hope it stays around long enough for me to know i missed out in round 2 of the Q's
As soon as this sells out there will be 20 of them on ebay with a buy it now of ยฃ2k! Hope it stays around long enough for me to know i missed out in round 2 of the Q's
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Faile - Buy Now, by Octopus UK on Jul 4, 2008 13:01:12 GMT 1, Will these be shipped form the UK or the US? I'd be tempted if it is the UK but given the price is in $'s it looks likely to be the US. I'm looking at an extra 17.5% and plus ยฃ13.50 then.
Will these be shipped form the UK or the US? I'd be tempted if it is the UK but given the price is in $'s it looks likely to be the US. I'm looking at an extra 17.5% and plus ยฃ13.50 then.
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Faile - Buy Now, by proffesser on Jul 4, 2008 13:32:53 GMT 1, octo my "vanity" was shipped from the US and marked as a $4 gift so no added cost ,which was a relief but I here from others that some UK buyers were hit with tax so you might be lucky with the cost.....
octo my "vanity" was shipped from the US and marked as a $4 gift so no added cost ,which was a relief but I here from others that some UK buyers were hit with tax so you might be lucky with the cost.....
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Faile - Buy Now, by robstar on Jul 4, 2008 13:35:57 GMT 1, It's back on sale guys!
It's back on sale guys!
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Faile - Buy Now, by pimp on Jul 4, 2008 15:11:24 GMT 1, Will these be shipped form the UK or the US? I'd be tempted if it is the UK but given the price is in $'s it looks likely to be the US. I'm looking at an extra 17.5% and plus ยฃ13.50 then.
why in the name of god would you think these would be sent from INSIDE the UK?!
the FAILE studio is in Brooklyn ffs!
and, again, FAILE always have marked prints as low value so you may not be charged VAT
Will these be shipped form the UK or the US? I'd be tempted if it is the UK but given the price is in $'s it looks likely to be the US. I'm looking at an extra 17.5% and plus ยฃ13.50 then. why in the name of god would you think these would be sent from INSIDE the UK?! the FAILE studio is in Brooklyn ffs! and, again, FAILE always have marked prints as low value so you may not be charged VAT
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