pezlow
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January 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by pezlow on Sept 4, 2008 12:22:54 GMT 1, POW's worst year yet? Its depends what POW are after If its about money, then this might not have been a good year for them, but I think we all know thats not their motivation. All the good that was done with money raised at the last Santa's Ghetto, plus two events at the Cans Tunnel that have pushed the whole scene forwards, and have helped make Graffiti seen as a true form of Art by the public ;D What more can was ask for?
Well said silky. What short memories we all have. Santas Ghetto 2007 was without doubt one of the most well thought out events ever, requiring huge planning and secrecy. It wasn't all about raising cash for charity (although that was pretty amazing) but raising the conciousness of a massive political issue. POW rightly were lauded for their efforts. Quit with the moaning people.
POW's worst year yet? Its depends what POW are after If its about money, then this might not have been a good year for them, but I think we all know thats not their motivation. All the good that was done with money raised at the last Santa's Ghetto, plus two events at the Cans Tunnel that have pushed the whole scene forwards, and have helped make Graffiti seen as a true form of Art by the public ;D What more can was ask for? Well said silky. What short memories we all have. Santas Ghetto 2007 was without doubt one of the most well thought out events ever, requiring huge planning and secrecy. It wasn't all about raising cash for charity (although that was pretty amazing) but raising the conciousness of a massive political issue. POW rightly were lauded for their efforts. Quit with the moaning people.
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spencerlee
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May 2006
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POW's worst year yet?, by spencerlee on Sept 4, 2008 12:30:21 GMT 1, Maybe the original post should have read.
'In your opinion have POW's print releases in 2008 been a little weak considering the works they have released in the past'
Maybe the original post should have read.
'In your opinion have POW's print releases in 2008 been a little weak considering the works they have released in the past'
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spirit
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POW's worst year yet?, by spirit on Sept 4, 2008 12:38:41 GMT 1, Maybe the original post should have read. 'In your opinion have POW's print releases in 2008 been a little weak considering the works they have released in the past'
;D Exactly.
Maybe the original post should have read. 'In your opinion have POW's print releases in 2008 been a little weak considering the works they have released in the past' ;D Exactly.
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Francis
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POW's worst year yet?, by Francis on Sept 4, 2008 17:22:37 GMT 1, oh f**k now its POW bashing now - just because you cannot get your grubby mitts on a banksy print to flip. I hope Banksy never releases a print via POW ever again and that the only way you will get one is by going to war torn or depressed places, at least you will appreciate the piece more, rather than sit in front of a pc screen with your site scraper, ready to alert you the moment the print has dropped, or f5ing all the time
Why are you being so defensive, alsbabar? I wasn't bashing POW. Where in my post was I bashing POW? Worst year for anyone is a relative term. For any business that has been in operation for many years, there will be a worst year and a best year. That doesn't mean it's a bash. If this year isn't their worst, then which is? And when did I even bring up Banksy? The only artist I mentioned was them bringing in new artists.
oh f**k now its POW bashing now - just because you cannot get your grubby mitts on a banksy print to flip. I hope Banksy never releases a print via POW ever again and that the only way you will get one is by going to war torn or depressed places, at least you will appreciate the piece more, rather than sit in front of a pc screen with your site scraper, ready to alert you the moment the print has dropped, or f5ing all the time Why are you being so defensive, alsbabar? I wasn't bashing POW. Where in my post was I bashing POW? Worst year for anyone is a relative term. For any business that has been in operation for many years, there will be a worst year and a best year. That doesn't mean it's a bash. If this year isn't their worst, then which is? And when did I even bring up Banksy? The only artist I mentioned was them bringing in new artists.
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POW's worst year yet?, by Daniel Silk on Sept 4, 2008 17:29:49 GMT 1, POW's worst year yet? Its depends what POW are after If its about money, then this might not have been a good year for them, but I think we all know thats not their motivation. All the good that was done with money raised at the last Santa's Ghetto, plus two events at the Cans Tunnel that have pushed the whole scene forwards, and have helped make Graffiti seen as a true form of Art by the public ;D What more can was ask for? Well said silky. What short memories we all have. Santas Ghetto 2007 was without doubt one of the most well thought out events ever, requiring huge planning and secrecy. It wasn't all about raising cash for charity (although that was pretty amazing) but raising the conciousness of a massive political issue. POW rightly were lauded for their efforts. Quit with the moaning people.
Makes a change for me to be seen saying something right ;D
POW's worst year yet? Its depends what POW are after If its about money, then this might not have been a good year for them, but I think we all know thats not their motivation. All the good that was done with money raised at the last Santa's Ghetto, plus two events at the Cans Tunnel that have pushed the whole scene forwards, and have helped make Graffiti seen as a true form of Art by the public ;D What more can was ask for? Well said silky. What short memories we all have. Santas Ghetto 2007 was without doubt one of the most well thought out events ever, requiring huge planning and secrecy. It wasn't all about raising cash for charity (although that was pretty amazing) but raising the conciousness of a massive political issue. POW rightly were lauded for their efforts. Quit with the moaning people. Makes a change for me to be seen saying something right ;D
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POW's worst year yet?, by funkrye on Sept 4, 2008 18:41:22 GMT 1, ..rather than the worst year for PoW this is the worst year yet for ppl joining the scene without the foggiest about the scene (and by that i mean love for it)
Too true. If you were really interested in this scene or even new to this scene there is that much out there (not just to buy) why waste your time trying to knock POW. Who's to say that your taste is right and they have only released sub standard work.
..rather than the worst year for PoW this is the worst year yet for ppl joining the scene without the foggiest about the scene (and by that i mean love for it) Too true. If you were really interested in this scene or even new to this scene there is that much out there (not just to buy) why waste your time trying to knock POW. Who's to say that your taste is right and they have only released sub standard work.
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POW's worst year yet?, by funkrye on Sept 4, 2008 18:43:15 GMT 1, POW's worst year yet? Its depends what POW are after If its about money, then this might not have been a good year for them, but I think we all know thats not their motivation. All the good that was done with money raised at the last Santa's Ghetto, plus two events at the Cans Tunnel that have pushed the whole scene forwards, and have helped make Graffiti seen as a true form of Art by the public ;D What more can was ask for?
Exactly. Cant ask for much more if your a fan of this art/scene.
POW's worst year yet? Its depends what POW are after If its about money, then this might not have been a good year for them, but I think we all know thats not their motivation. All the good that was done with money raised at the last Santa's Ghetto, plus two events at the Cans Tunnel that have pushed the whole scene forwards, and have helped make Graffiti seen as a true form of Art by the public ;D What more can was ask for? Exactly. Cant ask for much more if your a fan of this art/scene.
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POW's worst year yet?, by stender on Sept 4, 2008 19:25:11 GMT 1, I hope Banksy never releases a print via POW ever again and that the only way you will get one is by going to war torn or depressed places
Is Santas Ghetto in Canvey Island this year?
I hope Banksy never releases a print via POW ever again and that the only way you will get one is by going to war torn or depressed places Is Santas Ghetto in Canvey Island this year?
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POW's worst year yet?, by alsbabar on Sept 4, 2008 19:37:56 GMT 1, oh f**k now its POW bashing now - just because you cannot get your grubby mitts on a banksy print to flip. I hope Banksy never releases a print via POW ever again and that the only way you will get one is by going to war torn or depressed places, at least you will appreciate the piece more, rather than sit in front of a pc screen with your site scraper, ready to alert you the moment the print has dropped, or f5ing all the time Why are you being so defensive, alsbabar? I wasn't bashing POW. Where in my post was I bashing POW? Worst year for anyone is a relative term. For any business that has been in operation for many years, there will be a worst year and a best year. That doesn't mean it's a bash. If this year isn't their worst, then which is? And when did I even bring up Banksy? The only artist I mentioned was them bringing in new artists.
defensive? i thought i was being offensive!!!
You dont know what constitutes a bad year for POW or a good year. To me what they have done this year is/has been their best year, as its not about banksy prints or money, its about bringing the art to the masses. Also I can live without having to keep F5ing their site in the vain hope that i might catch a new Banksy release, and lets face it, 99% of people who visit their site, are doing so for a chance to snag a banksy print. I like the fact that I have discovered artists like Todd James, Vhils, Sam3, Elph and the others who established artists have released new prints, but also it has allowed me to go out and explore other galleries, shows, and see and appreciate more artists like Herakut, Eine, Monroe, Munoz, Baker, Grimshaw.
The statement alone "POW's worst year yet?" - generates negativity and an element of POW bashing
rant over - toodles
oh f**k now its POW bashing now - just because you cannot get your grubby mitts on a banksy print to flip. I hope Banksy never releases a print via POW ever again and that the only way you will get one is by going to war torn or depressed places, at least you will appreciate the piece more, rather than sit in front of a pc screen with your site scraper, ready to alert you the moment the print has dropped, or f5ing all the time Why are you being so defensive, alsbabar? I wasn't bashing POW. Where in my post was I bashing POW? Worst year for anyone is a relative term. For any business that has been in operation for many years, there will be a worst year and a best year. That doesn't mean it's a bash. If this year isn't their worst, then which is? And when did I even bring up Banksy? The only artist I mentioned was them bringing in new artists. defensive? i thought i was being offensive!!! You dont know what constitutes a bad year for POW or a good year. To me what they have done this year is/has been their best year, as its not about banksy prints or money, its about bringing the art to the masses. Also I can live without having to keep F5ing their site in the vain hope that i might catch a new Banksy release, and lets face it, 99% of people who visit their site, are doing so for a chance to snag a banksy print. I like the fact that I have discovered artists like Todd James, Vhils, Sam3, Elph and the others who established artists have released new prints, but also it has allowed me to go out and explore other galleries, shows, and see and appreciate more artists like Herakut, Eine, Monroe, Munoz, Baker, Grimshaw. The statement alone "POW's worst year yet?" - generates negativity and an element of POW bashing rant over - toodles
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POW's worst year yet?, by bradpitt on Sept 4, 2008 19:48:30 GMT 1, Well said Alsbabar, Francis you are a banana.
Well said Alsbabar, Francis you are a banana.
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Francis
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September 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by Francis on Sept 4, 2008 19:50:46 GMT 1, OK...I'm sorry I voiced my opinion on how I felt POW's year was going along. I guess everyone can only only say positive things about POW.
OK...I'm sorry I voiced my opinion on how I felt POW's year was going along. I guess everyone can only only say positive things about POW.
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POW's worst year yet?, by snakes on Sept 4, 2008 20:16:21 GMT 1, I think POW have had a very productive year artistically - cannot comment on their behalf financially (but who cares)..
I just think that the flippers have had a bad year out of POW!
Thanks to POW not releasing much to my liking this year I have looked elsewhere and am very happy with what I have found. Thank you POW and Mr Banksy for Cans 1&2 and for saving me from spending too much money !!!!
I think POW have had a very productive year artistically - cannot comment on their behalf financially (but who cares)..
I just think that the flippers have had a bad year out of POW!
Thanks to POW not releasing much to my liking this year I have looked elsewhere and am very happy with what I have found. Thank you POW and Mr Banksy for Cans 1&2 and for saving me from spending too much money !!!!
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POW's worst year yet?, by alsbabar on Sept 4, 2008 20:40:03 GMT 1, OK...I'm sorry I voiced my opinion on how I felt POW's year was going along. I guess everyone can only only say positive things about POW.
and you say you are not POW bashing?
OK...I'm sorry I voiced my opinion on how I felt POW's year was going along. I guess everyone can only only say positive things about POW. and you say you are not POW bashing?
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Francis
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September 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by Francis on Sept 4, 2008 20:41:12 GMT 1, OK...I'm sorry I voiced my opinion on how I felt POW's year was going along. I guess everyone can only only say positive things about POW. and you say you are not POW bashing?
Nope, I was not, but you interpreted it that way and I do not know why you were being so defensive.
OK...I'm sorry I voiced my opinion on how I felt POW's year was going along. I guess everyone can only only say positive things about POW. and you say you are not POW bashing? Nope, I was not, but you interpreted it that way and I do not know why you were being so defensive.
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leumasdarnley
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May 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by leumasdarnley on Sept 4, 2008 20:47:48 GMT 1, If you were lucky enough to be able to go to one or both of the cans festivals I guess that would change your view on this year. Perhaps the conflicting points of view.
If you were lucky enough to be able to go to one or both of the cans festivals I guess that would change your view on this year. Perhaps the conflicting points of view.
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POW's worst year yet?, by snakes on Sept 4, 2008 20:59:22 GMT 1, Lets bash francis
Lets bash francis
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spirit
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August 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by spirit on Sept 4, 2008 21:02:56 GMT 1, It's interesting that most of the people defending POW on this thread have used Cans and SG as the reasons why they have had a good year (and full respect to POW for those) - no one seems to be saying their print releases have been great though - which I think is what Francis was originally getting at.
So the general consensus seems to be that although most of the prints this year have been a bit pants, Cans etc more than makes up for it. Anyone disagree with that?
It's interesting that most of the people defending POW on this thread have used Cans and SG as the reasons why they have had a good year (and full respect to POW for those) - no one seems to be saying their print releases have been great though - which I think is what Francis was originally getting at.
So the general consensus seems to be that although most of the prints this year have been a bit pants, Cans etc more than makes up for it. Anyone disagree with that?
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POW's worst year yet?, by bradpitt on Sept 4, 2008 21:12:57 GMT 1, Sam3 prints were nice. The thing is POW are the greatest printhouse ever, if they could release Banksy prints at ยฃ30 for everyone they probably would, but they can't due to money hungry flippers and the insatiable demand for them. I think people should respect them for the work they have done over the years.
The point is this thread is just trying to breed hate, just the same as people try to do with Laz, for no apparent reason apart from their own selfish gain.
Sam3 prints were nice. The thing is POW are the greatest printhouse ever, if they could release Banksy prints at ยฃ30 for everyone they probably would, but they can't due to money hungry flippers and the insatiable demand for them. I think people should respect them for the work they have done over the years.
The point is this thread is just trying to breed hate, just the same as people try to do with Laz, for no apparent reason apart from their own selfish gain.
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POW's worst year yet?, by snakes on Sept 4, 2008 21:13:40 GMT 1, I think POW have had a very productive year artistically - cannot comment on their behalf financially (but who cares).. I just think that the flippers have had a bad year out of POW! Thanks to POW not releasing much to my liking this year I have looked elsewhere and am very happy with what I have found. Thank you POW and Mr Banksy for Cans 1&2 and for saving me from spending too much money !!!!
Read between the lines.
POW's prints were sh1t, hence I did not buy and therefore that is why I have saved a packet
I think POW have had a very productive year artistically - cannot comment on their behalf financially (but who cares).. I just think that the flippers have had a bad year out of POW! Thanks to POW not releasing much to my liking this year I have looked elsewhere and am very happy with what I have found. Thank you POW and Mr Banksy for Cans 1&2 and for saving me from spending too much money !!!! Read between the lines. POW's prints were sh1t, hence I did not buy and therefore that is why I have saved a packet
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POW's worst year yet?, by master on Sept 4, 2008 21:14:22 GMT 1, It's interesting that most of the people defending POW on this thread have used Cans and SG as the reasons why they have had a good year (and full respect to POW for those) - no one seems to be saying their print releases have been great though - which I think is what Francis was originally getting at. So the general consensus seems to be that although most of the prints this year have been a bit pants, Cans etc more than makes up for it. Anyone disagree with that?
Nope, spot on!
It's interesting that most of the people defending POW on this thread have used Cans and SG as the reasons why they have had a good year (and full respect to POW for those) - no one seems to be saying their print releases have been great though - which I think is what Francis was originally getting at. So the general consensus seems to be that although most of the prints this year have been a bit pants, Cans etc more than makes up for it. Anyone disagree with that? Nope, spot on!
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leumasdarnley
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May 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by leumasdarnley on Sept 4, 2008 21:16:03 GMT 1, agreed
agreed
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Francis
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September 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by Francis on Sept 4, 2008 21:17:14 GMT 1, Sam3 prints were nice. The thing is POW are the greatest printhouse ever, if they could release Banksy prints at ยฃ30 for everyone they probably would, but they can't due to money hungry flippers and the insatiable demand for them. I think people should respect them for the work they have done over the years. The point is this thread is just trying to breed hate, just the same as people try to do with Laz, for no apparent reason apart from their own selfish gain.
Brad, if people just told you you were wicked in every movie, even though you were poo, you'll always be poo in every movie and never want to be better.
Sam3 prints were nice. The thing is POW are the greatest printhouse ever, if they could release Banksy prints at ยฃ30 for everyone they probably would, but they can't due to money hungry flippers and the insatiable demand for them. I think people should respect them for the work they have done over the years. The point is this thread is just trying to breed hate, just the same as people try to do with Laz, for no apparent reason apart from their own selfish gain. Brad, if people just told you you were wicked in every movie, even though you were poo, you'll always be poo in every movie and never want to be better.
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POW's worst year yet?, by bradpitt on Sept 4, 2008 21:21:17 GMT 1, Thing is I would know I wasn't poo and wouldn't feel the need to impress you. I am not an amateur actor starting out, if I was then I would agree with you. They still have a lot of great prints on their site, it is just us the consumer have a much wider choice now. Good on them for still finding new talent, Zbiok's street work is actually quite good : )
Thing is I would know I wasn't poo and wouldn't feel the need to impress you. I am not an amateur actor starting out, if I was then I would agree with you. They still have a lot of great prints on their site, it is just us the consumer have a much wider choice now. Good on them for still finding new talent, Zbiok's street work is actually quite good : )
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uksnowman
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August 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by uksnowman on Sept 4, 2008 21:25:20 GMT 1, what's all the fuss about, it's a nice change not to have to worry about when I'll next have to f5 my nuts off...
what's all the fuss about, it's a nice change not to have to worry about when I'll next have to f5 my nuts off...
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POW's worst year yet?, by alsbabar on Sept 4, 2008 21:30:51 GMT 1, and you say you are not POW bashing? Nope, I was not, but you interpreted it that way and I do not know why you were being so defensive.
i am not being defensive, i just dont bite the hand that feeds me, nor do I get a hate campaign stirred up because it suits my ambiguous agenda/needs
and you say you are not POW bashing? Nope, I was not, but you interpreted it that way and I do not know why you were being so defensive. i am not being defensive, i just dont bite the hand that feeds me, nor do I get a hate campaign stirred up because it suits my ambiguous agenda/needs
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spirit
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August 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by spirit on Sept 4, 2008 22:08:03 GMT 1, I haven't seen any hate in this thread - only fair and reasonable discussion covering both the positives and negatives. What possible hidden agenda could this thread serve? Are you suggesting Francis runs a competing print house or something?
I haven't seen any hate in this thread - only fair and reasonable discussion covering both the positives and negatives. What possible hidden agenda could this thread serve? Are you suggesting Francis runs a competing print house or something?
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POW's worst year yet?, by weaver on Sept 4, 2008 22:10:18 GMT 1, I really dont understand the almost constant criticism the POW and Laz receive from the same weary sources. Without either of these groups of people we wouldnt be enjoying the subject we are all here for ( Thats Art for those who need reminding its not all about the cash). Francis, you seem to have spear headed a few of these discussions and seem to consistently fall on the anti POW / Laz side of the argument, any reason why? Alterior motives? previous bad experiences that have scarred you so deep that it continuously plays on your mind? please share your tale of woe ( if you have one) and let us know the source of your ire.
I really dont understand the almost constant criticism the POW and Laz receive from the same weary sources. Without either of these groups of people we wouldnt be enjoying the subject we are all here for ( Thats Art for those who need reminding its not all about the cash). Francis, you seem to have spear headed a few of these discussions and seem to consistently fall on the anti POW / Laz side of the argument, any reason why? Alterior motives? previous bad experiences that have scarred you so deep that it continuously plays on your mind? please share your tale of woe ( if you have one) and let us know the source of your ire.
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Francis
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September 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by Francis on Sept 4, 2008 22:20:13 GMT 1, Francis, you seem to have spear headed a few of these discussions and seem to consistently fall on the anti POW / Laz side of the argument, any reason why? Alterior motives? previous bad experiences that have scarred you so deep that it continuously plays on your mind? please share your tale of woe ( if you have one) and let us know the source of your ire.
What are you talking about? You must have me confused with someone else.
Francis, you seem to have spear headed a few of these discussions and seem to consistently fall on the anti POW / Laz side of the argument, any reason why? Alterior motives? previous bad experiences that have scarred you so deep that it continuously plays on your mind? please share your tale of woe ( if you have one) and let us know the source of your ire. What are you talking about? You must have me confused with someone else.
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leumasdarnley
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May 2007
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POW's worst year yet?, by leumasdarnley on Sept 4, 2008 22:39:56 GMT 1, The bottom line here francis thinks this year has been rather poor in regards to print releases for POW. regardless of Cans which isn't the issue its hard to say that he is wrong. If you feel he is wrong why not say how your Sam3 and Vhils prints looks great in your living room and show us some pics vs attacking him for stating his opinion also pretty sure Laz was never mentioned. The seemingly blind support for POW post Cans is interesting, I mean I get it but it is interesting none the less.
The bottom line here francis thinks this year has been rather poor in regards to print releases for POW. regardless of Cans which isn't the issue its hard to say that he is wrong. If you feel he is wrong why not say how your Sam3 and Vhils prints looks great in your living room and show us some pics vs attacking him for stating his opinion also pretty sure Laz was never mentioned. The seemingly blind support for POW post Cans is interesting, I mean I get it but it is interesting none the less.
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POW's worst year yet?, by bradpitt on Sept 4, 2008 22:45:36 GMT 1, Sorry, but I just find the thread title negative and a chance to throw insult at POW, when there really is no need for it.
Sorry, but I just find the thread title negative and a chance to throw insult at POW, when there really is no need for it.
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