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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 19:56:44 GMT 1, Wow Im shocked.. Thanks
Wow Im shocked.. Thanks
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Banksy provenance, by numusic on Aug 26, 2007 20:03:51 GMT 1,
Careful, you might wanna earth the plug ;D
*Prices would be with full provenance
Careful, you might wanna earth the plug ;D *Prices would be with full provenance |
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 20:06:01 GMT 1, so this is accepted as genuine now is it..?
..fail to see how this is any different to the various stencils that pop up regularly on ebay
if you like it, great, have it on your wall but 8 to 20k for a not brilliant stencil with no prov? come on..
so this is accepted as genuine now is it..?
..fail to see how this is any different to the various stencils that pop up regularly on ebay
if you like it, great, have it on your wall but 8 to 20k for a not brilliant stencil with no prov? come on..
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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 20:06:49 GMT 1, damn... Is there any way Laz might authenticate it? I have a letter from Harvey and all that...
damn... Is there any way Laz might authenticate it? I have a letter from Harvey and all that...
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Banksy provenance, by baldwin on Aug 26, 2007 20:07:13 GMT 1, Careful, you might wanna earth the plug ;D *Prices would be with full provenance
What do people think the chances of getting provenance is? It's probably been discussed to death, so just give a percentage ;D
Careful, you might wanna earth the plug ;D *Prices would be with full provenance What do people think the chances of getting provenance is? It's probably been discussed to death, so just give a percentage ;D |
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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 20:09:46 GMT 1, I know its genuine and its not for sale so to be honest Im the only one who needs/knows its real...and Harvey, and Banksy! Thats all that matters really. Just wanna get it restored and framed and Ill pride of place in the hosue.
I know its genuine and its not for sale so to be honest Im the only one who needs/knows its real...and Harvey, and Banksy! Thats all that matters really. Just wanna get it restored and framed and Ill pride of place in the hosue.
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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 20:10:30 GMT 1, prob 0% Laz doesnt wanna ever know!
prob 0% Laz doesnt wanna ever know!
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 20:11:32 GMT 1, just out of curiousity..did 'harvey' give this to you or did you buy it off him?
just out of curiousity..did 'harvey' give this to you or did you buy it off him?
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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 20:15:20 GMT 1, bought it
bought it
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Banksy provenance, by baldwin on Aug 26, 2007 20:16:08 GMT 1, I don't think I could live with something like that without ever knowing. At the end of the day, it's real or it isn't and there is somebody out there that knows. So I personally wouldn't stop until I found out. It would annoy me too much that there was an answer out there in the big wide world. ;D
And it has nothing to do with value (ok, maybe a little), it would mainly be for my sanity.
I don't think I could live with something like that without ever knowing. At the end of the day, it's real or it isn't and there is somebody out there that knows. So I personally wouldn't stop until I found out. It would annoy me too much that there was an answer out there in the big wide world. ;D
And it has nothing to do with value (ok, maybe a little), it would mainly be for my sanity.
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Banksy provenance, by corblimeylimey on Aug 26, 2007 20:17:02 GMT 1, I know its genuine and its not for sale so to be honest Im the only one who needs/knows its real...and Harvey, and Banksy! Thats all that matters really. Just wanna get it restored and framed and Ill pride of place in the hosue.
I thought you said you were putting it up for auction?
I know its genuine and its not for sale so to be honest Im the only one who needs/knows its real...and Harvey, and Banksy! Thats all that matters really. Just wanna get it restored and framed and Ill pride of place in the hosue. I thought you said you were putting it up for auction? |
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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 20:18:32 GMT 1, nooooo, was just wondering what it was worth as I heard a few banksy originals were coming up for auction in october. It Isnt up for auction.
nooooo, was just wondering what it was worth as I heard a few banksy originals were coming up for auction in october. It Isnt up for auction.
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 20:19:41 GMT 1,
..for a 'fair' market price? Im guessing that this bloke being banksys mate would know his stuff is worth a fair bit..
Im curious if there are still 'originals' out there still changing hands cheaply
..as all that crop up on ebay are laughed out of town pretty quick
..for a 'fair' market price? Im guessing that this bloke being banksys mate would know his stuff is worth a fair bit.. Im curious if there are still 'originals' out there still changing hands cheaply ..as all that crop up on ebay are laughed out of town pretty quick |
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Banksy provenance, by numusic on Aug 26, 2007 20:21:53 GMT 1, so this is accepted as genuine now is it..? ..fail to see how this is any different to the various stencils that pop up regularly on ebay if you like it, great, have it on your wall but 8 to 20k for a not brilliant stencil with no prov? come on..
It's not "not brilliant".. it's shit ;D but if it's genuine and secured provenance, then I imagine those prices could be attained by a half decent gallery.
so this is accepted as genuine now is it..? ..fail to see how this is any different to the various stencils that pop up regularly on ebay if you like it, great, have it on your wall but 8 to 20k for a not brilliant stencil with no prov? come on.. It's not "not brilliant".. it's shit ;D but if it's genuine and secured provenance, then I imagine those prices could be attained by a half decent gallery. |
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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 20:23:52 GMT 1, Dont you think its a good image?
Dont you think its a good image?
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Banksy provenance, by numusic on Aug 26, 2007 20:26:04 GMT 1, damn... Is there any way Laz might authenticate it? I have a letter from Harvey and all that...
Very very doubtful, probably zero chance. Though I guess it was a test piece and not knicked off the street so you never know. Doubt he'd ever want asnything to do with it. It's not very good is it. But maybe Haddocks letter is ok for a less reputable gallery... safets thing to do would be to insure it for 20k..
*and then burn it ;D
damn... Is there any way Laz might authenticate it? I have a letter from Harvey and all that... Very very doubtful, probably zero chance. Though I guess it was a test piece and not knicked off the street so you never know. Doubt he'd ever want asnything to do with it. It's not very good is it. But maybe Haddocks letter is ok for a less reputable gallery... safets thing to do would be to insure it for 20k.. *and then burn it ;D |
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 20:27:42 GMT 1, Dont you think its a good image?
in a word.. no
nuart makes a fair point that with laz prov a gallery could get some gullible banker to part with a large sum for it.. but it would be a case of a fool and his money being easily parted..
a case of "take a loook at mah baanksy, yah"
Dont you think its a good image? in a word.. no nuart makes a fair point that with laz prov a gallery could get some gullible banker to part with a large sum for it.. but it would be a case of a fool and his money being easily parted.. a case of "take a loook at mah baanksy, yah" |
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Banksy provenance, by baldwin on Aug 26, 2007 20:32:00 GMT 1, I don't think it's shit. There's a strong possibility that it's an original banksy.
If I were to buy something like that, it wouldn't be for the artistic value, it would be for the magic of having a banksy stencil on my wall. Personally, I would love it. People don't buy bits of Wembely grass beause it looks nice, it's because of what it represents.
I don't think it's shit. There's a strong possibility that it's an original banksy.
If I were to buy something like that, it wouldn't be for the artistic value, it would be for the magic of having a banksy stencil on my wall. Personally, I would love it. People don't buy bits of Wembely grass beause it looks nice, it's because of what it represents.
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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 20:32:18 GMT 1, What dont you like about the image? Is its qualitly? Or the actual rat image? Cus the quality is quite good, the flash makes it look well faded as does teh backgrund. Good to hear everyones opinion on it.
What dont you like about the image? Is its qualitly? Or the actual rat image? Cus the quality is quite good, the flash makes it look well faded as does teh backgrund. Good to hear everyones opinion on it.
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 20:35:45 GMT 1, I don't think it's s**t. There's a strong possibility that it's an original banksy. If I were to buy something like that, it wouldn't be for the artistic value, it would be for the magic of having a banksy stencil on my wall. Personally, I would love it. People don't buy bits of Wembely grass beause it looks nice, it's because of what it represents.
if you were going to spunk 20k on an 'original' I would be after a better piece than this..
..please dont tell me you would buy this old telly because 'banksy stencilled it'
cos if he did he did a sh!t job
I don't think it's s**t. There's a strong possibility that it's an original banksy. If I were to buy something like that, it wouldn't be for the artistic value, it would be for the magic of having a banksy stencil on my wall. Personally, I would love it. People don't buy bits of Wembely grass beause it looks nice, it's because of what it represents. if you were going to spunk 20k on an 'original' I would be after a better piece than this.. ..please dont tell me you would buy this old telly because 'banksy stencilled it' cos if he did he did a sh!t job |
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Banksy provenance, by numusic on Aug 26, 2007 20:38:55 GMT 1, What dont you like about the image? Is its qualitly? Or the actual rat image? Cus the quality is quite good, the flash makes it look well faded as does teh backgrund. Good to hear everyones opinion on it.
It's a nice little placard rat saying nothing.. maybe that's why it's on the TV hey. These have context on the street, and the screenprints are buying into a little piece of that message. A test spray on the side of a mates TV. Well, i'm just not sure.. but as a manic Banksy Fan, i'd happily frame it up and stick it on the wall if I'd pleased myself ( rather than everyone else) that it was genuine.
What dont you like about the image? Is its qualitly? Or the actual rat image? Cus the quality is quite good, the flash makes it look well faded as does teh backgrund. Good to hear everyones opinion on it. It's a nice little placard rat saying nothing.. maybe that's why it's on the TV hey. These have context on the street, and the screenprints are buying into a little piece of that message. A test spray on the side of a mates TV. Well, i'm just not sure.. but as a manic Banksy Fan, i'd happily frame it up and stick it on the wall if I'd pleased myself ( rather than everyone else) that it was genuine. |
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 20:38:56 GMT 1, ... safets thing to do would be to insure it for 20k.. *and then burn it ;D
best bit of advice on this thread..!
... safets thing to do would be to insure it for 20k.. *and then burn it ;D best bit of advice on this thread..! |
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Banksy provenance, by baldwin on Aug 26, 2007 20:40:01 GMT 1, I don't think it's s**t. There's a strong possibility that it's an original banksy. If I were to buy something like that, it wouldn't be for the artistic value, it would be for the magic of having a banksy stencil on my wall. Personally, I would love it. People don't buy bits of Wembely grass beause it looks nice, it's because of what it represents. if you were going to spunk 20k on an 'original' I would be after a better piece than this.. ..please dont tell me you would buy this old telly because 'banksy stencilled it' cos if he did he did a sh!t job
I would never spend 20k on this, nor would anybody else, because it has no provenance.
I don't think it's s**t. There's a strong possibility that it's an original banksy. If I were to buy something like that, it wouldn't be for the artistic value, it would be for the magic of having a banksy stencil on my wall. Personally, I would love it. People don't buy bits of Wembely grass beause it looks nice, it's because of what it represents. if you were going to spunk 20k on an 'original' I would be after a better piece than this.. ..please dont tell me you would buy this old telly because 'banksy stencilled it' cos if he did he did a sh!t job I would never spend 20k on this, nor would anybody else, because it has no provenance. |
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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 20:41:03 GMT 1, Actually up close it says Revolt but thats really faint.
Actually up close it says Revolt but thats really faint.
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Banksy provenance, by baldwin on Aug 26, 2007 20:42:39 GMT 1, but as a manic Banksy Fan, i'd happily frame it up and stick it on the wall if I'd pleased myself ( rather than everyone else) that it was genuine.
That's what I told ollie - To me, it has value because I could probably convince myself it's genuine.
but as a manic Banksy Fan, i'd happily frame it up and stick it on the wall if I'd pleased myself ( rather than everyone else) that it was genuine. That's what I told ollie - To me, it has value because I could probably convince myself it's genuine. |
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 20:46:20 GMT 1, I would never spend 20k on this, nor would anybody else, because it has no provenance.
exactly..
but if it did then you would happily put this rather shabby effort on your wall based solely on the fact that banksy did it?
I would never spend 20k on this, nor would anybody else, because it has no provenance. exactly.. but if it did then you would happily put this rather shabby effort on your wall based solely on the fact that banksy did it? |
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Banksy provenance, by baldwin on Aug 26, 2007 20:53:08 GMT 1, I would never spend 20k on this, nor would anybody else, because it has no provenance. exactly.. but if it did then you would happily put this rather shabby effort on your wall based solely on the fact that banksy did it?
It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it.
I would never spend 20k on this, nor would anybody else, because it has no provenance. exactly.. but if it did then you would happily put this rather shabby effort on your wall based solely on the fact that banksy did it? It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it. |
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 20:58:34 GMT 1, exactly.. but if it did then you would happily put this rather shabby effort on your wall based solely on the fact that banksy did it? It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it.
if I was a multimillionaire then I doubt would get rich buying things 'for the sake of it'
I would spend 40k and get a decent GWB double canvas or something which actually had some aesthetic appeal..
exactly.. but if it did then you would happily put this rather shabby effort on your wall based solely on the fact that banksy did it? It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it. if I was a multimillionaire then I doubt would get rich buying things 'for the sake of it' I would spend 40k and get a decent GWB double canvas or something which actually had some aesthetic appeal.. |
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Banksy provenance, by havana07 on Aug 26, 2007 20:59:55 GMT 1,
That belly has seen a few pints down the local. Deffo in need of a wax and crack sack 
That belly has seen a few pints down the local. Deffo in need of a wax and crack sack |
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Banksy provenance, by numusic on Aug 26, 2007 21:03:09 GMT 1, exactly.. but if it did then you would happily put this rather shabby effort on your wall based solely on the fact that banksy did it? It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it.
Maybe we should be discussing the lower end of that quote, i.e 5-8k and not 20k.. the lurkers might be getting ideas 
exactly.. but if it did then you would happily put this rather shabby effort on your wall based solely on the fact that banksy did it? It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it. Maybe we should be discussing the lower end of that quote, i.e 5-8k and not 20k.. the lurkers might be getting ideas |
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