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Banksy provenance, by havana07 on Aug 26, 2007 21:06:44 GMT 1, I know its genuine and its not for sale so to be honest Im the only one who needs/knows its real...and Harvey, and Banksy! Thats all that matters really. Just wanna get it restored and framed and Ill pride of place in the hosue.
Though if Harvey is known to Banksy and known to Laz, it might be 'easier' to get
authentication, no?
I know its genuine and its not for sale so to be honest Im the only one who needs/knows its real...and Harvey, and Banksy! Thats all that matters really. Just wanna get it restored and framed and Ill pride of place in the hosue. Though if Harvey is known to Banksy and known to Laz, it might be 'easier' to get authentication, no? |
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Banksy provenance, by baldwin on Aug 26, 2007 21:12:48 GMT 1, It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it. if I was a multimillionaire then I doubt would get rich buying things 'for the sake of it' I would spend 40k and get a decent GWB double canvas or something which actually had some aesthetic appeal..
If I was a multimillionaire, I would buy every bloody banksy I could get my hands on! It wouldn't matter, would it? This stencil has a certain quality that many people would like a piece of.
If I owned it, I may not even put it on the wall, I may just put it in the cupboard and every now and again take it out and think 'wow, f**k me, that's an original banksy stencil, cool!'. If I was a multimillionaire, then I would probably happily pay 20K for that pleasure. i wouldn't give a s**t.
Banksy is such a legend now that this is the sort of thing that starts happening.
It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it. if I was a multimillionaire then I doubt would get rich buying things 'for the sake of it' I would spend 40k and get a decent GWB double canvas or something which actually had some aesthetic appeal.. If I was a multimillionaire, I would buy every bloody banksy I could get my hands on! It wouldn't matter, would it? This stencil has a certain quality that many people would like a piece of. If I owned it, I may not even put it on the wall, I may just put it in the cupboard and every now and again take it out and think 'wow, f**k me, that's an original banksy stencil, cool!'. If I was a multimillionaire, then I would probably happily pay 20K for that pleasure. i wouldn't give a s**t. Banksy is such a legend now that this is the sort of thing that starts happening. |
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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 21:18:57 GMT 1,
Though if Harvey is known to Banksy and known to Laz, it might be 'easier' to get
authentication, no?[/quote]
Hopefully!
Though if Harvey is known to Banksy and known to Laz, it might be 'easier' to get
authentication, no?[/quote]
Hopefully!
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 21:56:14 GMT 1, It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it. Maybe we should be discussing the lower end of that quote, i.e 5-8k and not 20k.. the lurkers might be getting ideas 
also true..every ebay stencil will start coming with 'a letter from harvey' otherwise..
anyway, doubtful this would reach that sort of figure IMO more like the 5-8k Nuart mentioned.
still, highly unlikely this will get prov, 'banksys mate' or not..
again, it would be interesting to know what this set you back
..cos if the price for you was 'too good to be true' then it probably is 'too good to be true' full stop
It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it. Maybe we should be discussing the lower end of that quote, i.e 5-8k and not 20k.. the lurkers might be getting ideas also true..every ebay stencil will start coming with 'a letter from harvey' otherwise.. anyway, doubtful this would reach that sort of figure IMO more like the 5-8k Nuart mentioned. still, highly unlikely this will get prov, 'banksys mate' or not.. again, it would be interesting to know what this set you back ..cos if the price for you was 'too good to be true' then it probably is 'too good to be true' full stop |
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Banksy provenance, by arcam on Aug 26, 2007 22:03:57 GMT 1, Though if Harvey is known to Banksy and known to Laz, it might be 'easier' to get authentication, no?
Who is Harvey? 
Though if Harvey is known to Banksy and known to Laz, it might be 'easier' to get authentication, no? Who is Harvey? |
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Banksy provenance, by cashman on Aug 26, 2007 22:10:49 GMT 1, It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it. if I was a multimillionaire then I doubt would get rich buying things 'for the sake of it' I would spend 40k and get a decent GWB double canvas or something which actually had some aesthetic appeal..
multimillionaires dont need to get rich, they all ready are!!! 
It would depend on my situation - If I could just about afford 20K with loans and credit cards then I wouldn't. If i was a multi millionaire, then I would probably would, just for the sake of having it. if I was a multimillionaire then I doubt would get rich buying things 'for the sake of it' I would spend 40k and get a decent GWB double canvas or something which actually had some aesthetic appeal.. multimillionaires dont need to get rich, they all ready are!!! |
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 22:13:44 GMT 1, if I was a multimillionaire then I doubt would get rich buying things 'for the sake of it' I would spend 40k and get a decent GWB double canvas or something which actually had some aesthetic appeal.. multimillionaires dont need to get rich, they all ready are!!!
..that is what I was saying. you don't get rich by chucking large sums of money at average to poor stencil pieces 'for the sake of it'
if I was a multimillionaire then I doubt would get rich buying things 'for the sake of it' I would spend 40k and get a decent GWB double canvas or something which actually had some aesthetic appeal.. multimillionaires dont need to get rich, they all ready are!!! ..that is what I was saying. you don't get rich by chucking large sums of money at average to poor stencil pieces 'for the sake of it' |
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 22:15:40 GMT 1, or to put it another way..a lot of very rich people are careful with their money
..i.e quite tight really
or to put it another way..a lot of very rich people are careful with their money
..i.e quite tight really
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Banksy provenance, by cashman on Aug 26, 2007 22:23:34 GMT 1, if I was a multimillionaire then I doubt would get rich buying things 'for the sake of it' I would spend 40k and get a decent GWB double canvas or something which actually had some aesthetic appeal.. If I was a multimillionaire, I would buy every bloody banksy I could get my hands on! It wouldn't matter, would it? This stencil has a certain quality that many people would like a piece of. If I owned it, I may not even put it on the wall, I may just put it in the cupboard and every now and again take it out and think 'wow, f**k me, that's an original banksy stencil, cool!'. If I was a multimillionaire, then I would probably happily pay 20K for that pleasure. i wouldn't give a s**t. Banksy is such a legend now that this is the sort of thing that starts happening.
If I was a multimillionaire id buy Banksy prints to laminate and then use as porn Then i would literaly spunking my money up the wall !!
if I was a multimillionaire then I doubt would get rich buying things 'for the sake of it' I would spend 40k and get a decent GWB double canvas or something which actually had some aesthetic appeal.. If I was a multimillionaire, I would buy every bloody banksy I could get my hands on! It wouldn't matter, would it? This stencil has a certain quality that many people would like a piece of. If I owned it, I may not even put it on the wall, I may just put it in the cupboard and every now and again take it out and think 'wow, f**k me, that's an original banksy stencil, cool!'. If I was a multimillionaire, then I would probably happily pay 20K for that pleasure. i wouldn't give a s**t. Banksy is such a legend now that this is the sort of thing that starts happening. If I was a multimillionaire id buy Banksy prints to laminate and then use as porn Then i would literaly spunking my money up the wall !! |
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Banksy provenance, by Oliver Garland on Aug 26, 2007 22:26:10 GMT 1, Quick question, could you actually get someone to restore the piece?? Supose they restore 16th century masters so someones gotta be able to restore a stencil...
Quick question, could you actually get someone to restore the piece?? Supose they restore 16th century masters so someones gotta be able to restore a stencil...
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Banksy provenance, by baldwin on Aug 26, 2007 22:46:41 GMT 1, multimillionaires dont need to get rich, they all ready are!!! ..that is what I was saying. you don't get rich by chucking large sums of money at average to poor stencil pieces 'for the sake of it'
I really don't understand what you are trying to say. If I was a millionaire, I wouldn't be buying this piece because of it's investment potential. There has been a thread on this - investment speak bores alot of people.
I know what you mean, but what you are saying is totally irrelevant. If Roman Abromovich decides to drop 100K on a toilet seat that Picasso pissed on then nobody is going to turn around and tell him that he is a crap business man and that you don't make money by buying stuff like that.
When you are talking about millionaires, you are talking about a consumer not an investor. I know that some millionaires invest in art, but this isn't going to apply to a 20K stencil.
The reason I am feeling like this has anything to do with me is because you used my words "for the sake of it"
multimillionaires dont need to get rich, they all ready are!!! ..that is what I was saying. you don't get rich by chucking large sums of money at average to poor stencil pieces 'for the sake of it' I really don't understand what you are trying to say. If I was a millionaire, I wouldn't be buying this piece because of it's investment potential. There has been a thread on this - investment speak bores alot of people. I know what you mean, but what you are saying is totally irrelevant. If Roman Abromovich decides to drop 100K on a toilet seat that Picasso pissed on then nobody is going to turn around and tell him that he is a crap business man and that you don't make money by buying stuff like that. When you are talking about millionaires, you are talking about a consumer not an investor. I know that some millionaires invest in art, but this isn't going to apply to a 20K stencil. The reason I am feeling like this has anything to do with me is because you used my words "for the sake of it" |
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 23:00:02 GMT 1, I guess basically what it comes down to is for me, there always needs to be an attachment to a piece of work..
If I personally was a multimillionaire then regardless of who made it I wouldn't buy it, for any price because I don't like it or think it is particularly good..nothing to do with 'investment' or whatever
..I just struggle to see why, if you could afford it, you would buy it and stick it in a cupboard simply because it may be by banksy? if you like it- great get it. but to buy something you don't think is brilliant for a substantial amount of money because of who made it smacks of investment talk more than anything I have said..
I guess basically what it comes down to is for me, there always needs to be an attachment to a piece of work..
If I personally was a multimillionaire then regardless of who made it I wouldn't buy it, for any price because I don't like it or think it is particularly good..nothing to do with 'investment' or whatever
..I just struggle to see why, if you could afford it, you would buy it and stick it in a cupboard simply because it may be by banksy? if you like it- great get it. but to buy something you don't think is brilliant for a substantial amount of money because of who made it smacks of investment talk more than anything I have said..
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 23:02:07 GMT 1, BTW I do take your point about a mega-rich person being a consumer more than an investor..true
BTW I do take your point about a mega-rich person being a consumer more than an investor..true
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Banksy provenance, by baldwin on Aug 26, 2007 23:21:33 GMT 1, I guess basically what it comes down to is for me, there always needs to be an attachment to a piece of work.. If I personally was a multimillionaire then regardless of who made it I wouldn't buy it, for any price because I don't like it or think it is particularly good..nothing to do with 'investment' or whatever ..I just struggle to see why, if you could afford it, you would buy it and stick it in a cupboard simply because it may be by banksy? if you like it- great get it. but to buy something you don't think is brilliant for a substantial amount of money because of who made it smacks of investment talk more than anything I have said..
Let's just agree that I see something cool about owning that stencil, outside of it's artistic value, that you don't.
If I had five years to live and was worth trillions of pounds and that was the only original street piece left to buy, I would think "Ahhh, I remember good old banksy, he was a legend". Then I would proceed to pay one million pounds for it just for the pleasure it would bring and the memories it would prokove. It would obviously have to have provenance, otherwise my dying moments would be a lie. ;D
For some people, there are other factors involved than just the artistic merit. Although artistic merit is what started it all. That is how far banksy has come.
There is no real point to this because it just comes down to personal preference at the end of the day.
Sorry about my random little scenarios ;D
I guess basically what it comes down to is for me, there always needs to be an attachment to a piece of work.. If I personally was a multimillionaire then regardless of who made it I wouldn't buy it, for any price because I don't like it or think it is particularly good..nothing to do with 'investment' or whatever ..I just struggle to see why, if you could afford it, you would buy it and stick it in a cupboard simply because it may be by banksy? if you like it- great get it. but to buy something you don't think is brilliant for a substantial amount of money because of who made it smacks of investment talk more than anything I have said.. Let's just agree that I see something cool about owning that stencil, outside of it's artistic value, that you don't. If I had five years to live and was worth trillions of pounds and that was the only original street piece left to buy, I would think "Ahhh, I remember good old banksy, he was a legend". Then I would proceed to pay one million pounds for it just for the pleasure it would bring and the memories it would prokove. It would obviously have to have provenance, otherwise my dying moments would be a lie. ;D For some people, there are other factors involved than just the artistic merit. Although artistic merit is what started it all. That is how far banksy has come. There is no real point to this because it just comes down to personal preference at the end of the day. Sorry about my random little scenarios ;D |
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Banksy provenance, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 26, 2007 23:41:51 GMT 1, Let's just agree that I see something cool about owning that stencil, outside of it's artistic value, that you don't. There is no real point to this because it just comes down to personal preference at the end of the day.
fair enough..I take the points you make, it really is up to personal preference..
we shall agree to disagree on this one!
Let's just agree that I see something cool about owning that stencil, outside of it's artistic value, that you don't. There is no real point to this because it just comes down to personal preference at the end of the day. fair enough..I take the points you make, it really is up to personal preference.. we shall agree to disagree on this one! |
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