reznyce
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May 2007
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by reznyce on Oct 30, 2007 0:20:51 GMT 1, I may be wrong or just pissed off that I couldn't get a print today. But it's very difficult for me to believe that POW sold out over 900 prints in seconds.
Let's go back to a few months to the Morons release. Taking advantage of the Morons frenzy, POW released a bunch of prints by "Beautiful Losers." All of those prints sold out in a matter of minutes. But go back to the Beautiful Losers page now and you'll see that there are quite a few of those prints available today. How did that happen? Harmony Korine's Osama/ET print was sold out. Now there are 31 prints available!!
So, what I want to know from POW is if they actually sell every print of an edition or do they keep a whole bunch for the secondary market? I would not be very surprised if in a few months, we find out that POW is there to create the hype for prints sold by insiders in auctions, galleries and even on Ebay. I'm not comparing Beautiful Losers to Banksy. But I have a feeling that those prints are back on POW because there was no interest in the secondary market.
Again, I hope I don't sound like a conspiracy theorist or a disgruntled bi&ch, but I really have a hard time believing that so many prints sold out so fast. I have a VERY fast connection. I was reloading like a Banksy fan on crack. I didn't see the "add to cart" button once. That makes me suspicious.
I may be wrong or just pissed off that I couldn't get a print today. But it's very difficult for me to believe that POW sold out over 900 prints in seconds.
Let's go back to a few months to the Morons release. Taking advantage of the Morons frenzy, POW released a bunch of prints by "Beautiful Losers." All of those prints sold out in a matter of minutes. But go back to the Beautiful Losers page now and you'll see that there are quite a few of those prints available today. How did that happen? Harmony Korine's Osama/ET print was sold out. Now there are 31 prints available!!
So, what I want to know from POW is if they actually sell every print of an edition or do they keep a whole bunch for the secondary market? I would not be very surprised if in a few months, we find out that POW is there to create the hype for prints sold by insiders in auctions, galleries and even on Ebay. I'm not comparing Beautiful Losers to Banksy. But I have a feeling that those prints are back on POW because there was no interest in the secondary market.
Again, I hope I don't sound like a conspiracy theorist or a disgruntled bi&ch, but I really have a hard time believing that so many prints sold out so fast. I have a VERY fast connection. I was reloading like a Banksy fan on crack. I didn't see the "add to cart" button once. That makes me suspicious.
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Winter
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by Winter on Oct 30, 2007 0:22:43 GMT 1, I am thinking of more to come
I am thinking of more to come
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Dead Elvis
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by Dead Elvis on Oct 30, 2007 0:31:46 GMT 1, For some reason I don't see POW spitting out very many prints like Morons due to the fact that the server was up and functioning flawlessly the entire time I was refreshing. There will be around 50-100 U/S that will get recycled, but not expecting anything more than that. I still have a glimmer of hope and am still going to refresh like crazy for the next few hours, but I have pretty low expectations...
For some reason I don't see POW spitting out very many prints like Morons due to the fact that the server was up and functioning flawlessly the entire time I was refreshing. There will be around 50-100 U/S that will get recycled, but not expecting anything more than that. I still have a glimmer of hope and am still going to refresh like crazy for the next few hours, but I have pretty low expectations...
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jB
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by jB on Oct 30, 2007 0:35:56 GMT 1, plenty of people DID see an add to cart button and bought. basically everyone moaned after morons and applause for a working server..... now you have it and they sell out in seconds - literally seconds- as predicted , you cant really moan about it. More people than you think were lurking for todays release- it was pretty obvious it would be monday tues or weds this week..
Agree completely, not to mention Silky givinig everyone the heads up for the weekend so it didnt go to waste...cheers silky for that! ;D
plenty of people DID see an add to cart button and bought. basically everyone moaned after morons and applause for a working server..... now you have it and they sell out in seconds - literally seconds- as predicted , you cant really moan about it. More people than you think were lurking for todays release- it was pretty obvious it would be monday tues or weds this week.. Agree completely, not to mention Silky givinig everyone the heads up for the weekend so it didnt go to waste...cheers silky for that! ;D |
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by arcam on Oct 30, 2007 0:55:41 GMT 1, I have a VERY fast connection. I was reloading like a Banksy fan on crack. I didn't see the "add to cart" button once. That makes me suspicious.
When thousands of people are clicking refresh, a few hundred prints will go in the blink of an eye.
I have a VERY fast connection. I was reloading like a Banksy fan on crack. I didn't see the "add to cart" button once. That makes me suspicious. When thousands of people are clicking refresh, a few hundred prints will go in the blink of an eye. |
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morrissey1
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October 2007
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by morrissey1 on Oct 30, 2007 0:57:48 GMT 1, and to POW's credit, they did a lot right this time.....from giving us a head's up for the weekend (via Silky..thank you)...from not raising the prices, from not having their system crash (even though Credit company's did), from telling people weeks ago that print would be released later in month....making the editions bigger so more people had a chance to buy one without watering down the system too much...all in all, a great performance from POW..IMO
and to POW's credit, they did a lot right this time.....from giving us a head's up for the weekend (via Silky..thank you)...from not raising the prices, from not having their system crash (even though Credit company's did), from telling people weeks ago that print would be released later in month....making the editions bigger so more people had a chance to buy one without watering down the system too much...all in all, a great performance from POW..IMO
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Dead Elvis
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by Dead Elvis on Oct 30, 2007 1:26:51 GMT 1, How do you guys feel about the email warning that was sent out? Thankful? Cheated? Indifferent?
How do you guys feel about the email warning that was sent out? Thankful? Cheated? Indifferent?
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Philippe
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by Philippe on Oct 30, 2007 1:29:40 GMT 1, I was a bit suspicious as well since I woke up a little after the signed's when up but when the u/s came up a buddy phoned me and the add cart option was there and I was succesful. I did read earlier that someone had emailed Dora and she had responded saying sorry but we did release all the prints once their appropriate links were uploaded.
Since this is the LA series would'nt you think POW would try to release the prints at a time, which LA buyers could reasonably be awake...it was at 4:17 in the morning over here...atleast they waited 3 hours to post the u/s...
I was a bit suspicious as well since I woke up a little after the signed's when up but when the u/s came up a buddy phoned me and the add cart option was there and I was succesful. I did read earlier that someone had emailed Dora and she had responded saying sorry but we did release all the prints once their appropriate links were uploaded.
Since this is the LA series would'nt you think POW would try to release the prints at a time, which LA buyers could reasonably be awake...it was at 4:17 in the morning over here...atleast they waited 3 hours to post the u/s...
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sindekat
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by sindekat on Oct 30, 2007 1:29:56 GMT 1, and to POW's credit, they did a lot right this time.....from giving us a head's up for the weekend (via Silky..thank you)...from not raising the prices, from not having their system crash (even though Credit company's did), from telling people weeks ago that print would be released later in month....making the editions bigger so more people had a chance to buy one without watering down the system too much...all in all, a great performance from POW..IMO
this is the truth here. a just about flawless release and people still complaining
and to POW's credit, they did a lot right this time.....from giving us a head's up for the weekend (via Silky..thank you)...from not raising the prices, from not having their system crash (even though Credit company's did), from telling people weeks ago that print would be released later in month....making the editions bigger so more people had a chance to buy one without watering down the system too much...all in all, a great performance from POW..IMO this is the truth here. a just about flawless release and people still complaining |
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Philippe
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by Philippe on Oct 30, 2007 1:34:45 GMT 1, How do you guys feel about the email warning that was sent out? Thankful? Cheated? Indifferent?
I wish they had'nt sent out an email I am a huge Banksy fan and have never signed up for POW's email updates. I believe the people that want a Banksy print bad enough wont need an email to tell thim its released...a phone call on the other hand now thats helpful!
How do you guys feel about the email warning that was sent out? Thankful? Cheated? Indifferent? I wish they had'nt sent out an email I am a huge Banksy fan and have never signed up for POW's email updates. I believe the people that want a Banksy print bad enough wont need an email to tell thim its released...a phone call on the other hand now thats helpful! |
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by giiiant on Oct 30, 2007 1:38:51 GMT 1, How do you guys feel about the email warning that was sent out? Thankful? Cheated? Indifferent?
Cheated. Mainly because they didn't send me one.
How do you guys feel about the email warning that was sent out? Thankful? Cheated? Indifferent? Cheated. Mainly because they didn't send me one. |
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by keepingitreal on Oct 30, 2007 2:01:29 GMT 1, I know i keep saying this but the fact is there will be 900 Signed + 500 Unsigned Trolley Hunters floating about, that's the biggest signed edition we have ever seen Banksy release and i can't help thinking Banksy has done it that way to make sure the baggers don't walk away with everything.
A nice sting in the tail, and hopefully everyone who missed out will get one for cost or near to it anyway. In fact it will be very intersting to see if people have the same desire for the trolley hunters if the price does go the other way?
I know i keep saying this but the fact is there will be 900 Signed + 500 Unsigned Trolley Hunters floating about, that's the biggest signed edition we have ever seen Banksy release and i can't help thinking Banksy has done it that way to make sure the baggers don't walk away with everything.
A nice sting in the tail, and hopefully everyone who missed out will get one for cost or near to it anyway. In fact it will be very intersting to see if people have the same desire for the trolley hunters if the price does go the other way?
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morrissey1
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October 2007
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by morrissey1 on Oct 30, 2007 2:53:44 GMT 1, if you can get a signed banksy at cost or neat to it in the secondary market, then please remember to play your lotto numbers that night too
if you can get a signed banksy at cost or neat to it in the secondary market, then please remember to play your lotto numbers that night too
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nmbr6
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by nmbr6 on Oct 30, 2007 2:58:50 GMT 1, They just kind of screw the other fans in our countries releasing them that early. As someone else pointed out we(USA) were still sleeping when they went up. Well at least the people that don't have to get up super early.
They just kind of screw the other fans in our countries releasing them that early. As someone else pointed out we(USA) were still sleeping when they went up. Well at least the people that don't have to get up super early.
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ctc2
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by ctc2 on Oct 30, 2007 2:59:59 GMT 1, Happy for those who got one but since I refuse to sit around f5ing my life away I was not refreshing at 4:00 in the morning so I missed out. The email was really inmaterial to me as I was sleeping. Not that anyone cares or feels sorry for me but those of us in the U.S. were really hampered on this one. Oh well, at least I saved the money, my kids education is more important I guess.
Happy for those who got one but since I refuse to sit around f5ing my life away I was not refreshing at 4:00 in the morning so I missed out. The email was really inmaterial to me as I was sleeping. Not that anyone cares or feels sorry for me but those of us in the U.S. were really hampered on this one. Oh well, at least I saved the money, my kids education is more important I guess.
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morrissey1
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by morrissey1 on Oct 30, 2007 3:01:27 GMT 1, They just kind of screw the other fans in our countries releasing them that early. As someone else pointed out we(USA) were still sleeping when they went up. Well at least the people that don't have to get up super early.
but they delayed the release of the u/s prints for about an hour or so, I think, which gave people in other time zones (like myself) the chance to maybe, hopefully nab something. They can't please everyone, but I think this was a much better release for them versus the last one...
They just kind of screw the other fans in our countries releasing them that early. As someone else pointed out we(USA) were still sleeping when they went up. Well at least the people that don't have to get up super early. but they delayed the release of the u/s prints for about an hour or so, I think, which gave people in other time zones (like myself) the chance to maybe, hopefully nab something. They can't please everyone, but I think this was a much better release for them versus the last one... |
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morrissey1
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by morrissey1 on Oct 30, 2007 3:02:49 GMT 1, and I never defend POW...but this time, I think the only real screw-up was the credit company...
and I never defend POW...but this time, I think the only real screw-up was the credit company...
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nmbr6
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by nmbr6 on Oct 30, 2007 3:08:14 GMT 1, The server probably only stayed up this time because most of the US was sleeping 
The server probably only stayed up this time because most of the US was sleeping |
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morrissey1
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by morrissey1 on Oct 30, 2007 3:11:17 GMT 1, and it probably helped that they didn't release all 3 at the exact same time...staggering the releases probably helped in some way...though I have no idea how the server works
and it probably helped that they didn't release all 3 at the exact same time...staggering the releases probably helped in some way...though I have no idea how the server works
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smuk
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by smuk on Oct 30, 2007 3:15:26 GMT 1, I live on the east coast of North America and got confirmation at 10:15am of my print. I was F5ing since 7am though 
I think POW did everything great for such a huge release.
I live on the east coast of North America and got confirmation at 10:15am of my print. I was F5ing since 7am though I think POW did everything great for such a huge release. |
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by ricosg11 on Oct 30, 2007 3:16:04 GMT 1, and even though I am in the US. You could argue that POW tried to protect their earlier fans by releasing the signed ones at a time when most in the US were asleep. Even though I was on that shit like white on rice. Booya
and even though I am in the US. You could argue that POW tried to protect their earlier fans by releasing the signed ones at a time when most in the US were asleep. Even though I was on that shit like white on rice. Booya
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ctc2
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by ctc2 on Oct 30, 2007 3:19:23 GMT 1, Can't please everyone. Congrats to those who got one.
Can't please everyone. Congrats to those who got one.
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nmbr6
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by nmbr6 on Oct 30, 2007 3:20:36 GMT 1, and even though I am in the US. You could argue that POW tried to protect their earlier fans by releasing the signed ones at a time when most in the US were asleep. Even though I was on that s**t like white on rice. Booya
blah you must be an east coaster either that or you get up way too early
and even though I am in the US. You could argue that POW tried to protect their earlier fans by releasing the signed ones at a time when most in the US were asleep. Even though I was on that s**t like white on rice. Booya blah you must be an east coaster either that or you get up way too early |
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morrissey1
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by morrissey1 on Oct 30, 2007 3:22:41 GMT 1, my u/s Trolleys is going to on my wall between my LV Child and my CrazyJake's Do You Think Wii Care prints....a pretty fascinating trio
my u/s Trolleys is going to on my wall between my LV Child and my CrazyJake's Do You Think Wii Care prints....a pretty fascinating trio
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by trebor on Oct 30, 2007 4:51:16 GMT 1, Its hard to sell the exact number of prints for each run and complete that many transactions, there will be loads left over and its totally up to them what they do with them, I'd just stick them on the rack and sell them to people who come in to say hi now and again like they used to. Thank how much hate mail and bullshit they got over the past 12 hours, it would put me off selling them to you alll again!
Its hard to sell the exact number of prints for each run and complete that many transactions, there will be loads left over and its totally up to them what they do with them, I'd just stick them on the rack and sell them to people who come in to say hi now and again like they used to. Thank how much hate mail and bullshit they got over the past 12 hours, it would put me off selling them to you alll again!
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easycraig
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by easycraig on Oct 30, 2007 5:38:51 GMT 1, -I agree... I would think there are more to come.... I was up trying to get the b & w signed... kept getting an error....... then the color dropped... and I got the same error immediately..... hard time believing that the color sold out in 25 seconds..... = just not likely... but who knows.... such is life.....
-I agree... I would think there are more to come.... I was up trying to get the b & w signed... kept getting an error....... then the color dropped... and I got the same error immediately..... hard time believing that the color sold out in 25 seconds..... = just not likely... but who knows.... such is life.....
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dmandpenfold
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by dmandpenfold on Oct 30, 2007 7:52:29 GMT 1, I have a VERY fast connection. I was reloading like a Banksy fan on crack. I didn't see the "add to cart" button once. That makes me suspicious. When thousands of people are clicking refresh, a few hundred prints will go in the blink of an eye.
spot on there arcam and the 'add to basket' was around for a good 5 minutes on the B&W signed prints just so many people were trying that they kept getting errors
I have a VERY fast connection. I was reloading like a Banksy fan on crack. I didn't see the "add to cart" button once. That makes me suspicious. When thousands of people are clicking refresh, a few hundred prints will go in the blink of an eye. spot on there arcam and the 'add to basket' was around for a good 5 minutes on the B&W signed prints just so many people were trying that they kept getting errors |
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barry cilit
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by barry cilit on Oct 30, 2007 8:07:32 GMT 1, "So, what I want to know from POW is if they actually sell every print of an edition or do they keep a whole bunch for the secondary market?"
If I owned a successful online print company with 1000's of people desperate to own a Banksy print I would do exactly the same thing.
"So, what I want to know from POW is if they actually sell every print of an edition or do they keep a whole bunch for the secondary market?" If I owned a successful online print company with 1000's of people desperate to own a Banksy print I would do exactly the same thing. |
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by trebor on Oct 30, 2007 8:18:56 GMT 1, Nope Steve Laz would keep say 10% of the signed run back for the future, then there will be a load left at POW for someone to pick up in the future, its just what happens. They are in no rush to sell them all and nor should they be.
Nope Steve Laz would keep say 10% of the signed run back for the future, then there will be a load left at POW for someone to pick up in the future, its just what happens. They are in no rush to sell them all and nor should they be.
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Philippe
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POW pulling shenanigans?, by Philippe on Oct 30, 2007 8:22:50 GMT 1, I agree with the jesus only because...nobody fucks with the jesus!
I agree with the jesus only because...nobody fucks with the jesus!
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