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Neate print original prices, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2007 13:44:38 GMT 1, Am looking to get one of the new Neate prints that are cropping up on e-bay, but, as a matter of interest, would like to know what they went for at the Elms show.
Am looking to get one of the new Neate prints that are cropping up on e-bay, but, as a matter of interest, would like to know what they went for at the Elms show.
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Neate print original prices, by arcam on Aug 7, 2007 13:46:51 GMT 1, Am looking to get one of the new Neate prints that are cropping up on e-bay, but, as a matter of interest, would like to know what they went for at the Elms show.
2am blog ed100 ยฃ900
the cold war continues ed100 ยฃ900
the deepend ed 100 ยฃ900
the bigger picture ed75 ยฃ1250
the queens special ed75 ยฃ1250
come on ed75 ยฃ1250
white self portrait ed 50 ยฃ1350
red self portrait ed 50 ยฃ1350
triptych with chair ed 50 ยฃ1500
Am looking to get one of the new Neate prints that are cropping up on e-bay, but, as a matter of interest, would like to know what they went for at the Elms show. 2am blog ed100 ยฃ900 the cold war continues ed100 ยฃ900 the deepend ed 100 ยฃ900 the bigger picture ed75 ยฃ1250 the queens special ed75 ยฃ1250 come on ed75 ยฃ1250 white self portrait ed 50 ยฃ1350 red self portrait ed 50 ยฃ1350 triptych with chair ed 50 ยฃ1500 |
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Neate print original prices, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2007 15:21:07 GMT 1, Cheers Arcam.
Do these prices seem high to anyone else??
I know they have gone straight onto Ebay for twice the original sale amount, but compare them with the original sale price of a Banksy or a Micallef.
Does this mean that Banksy and Micaleff (Micallef, can't remember or be bothered to check) are good guys who are making good money but aren't greedy, that Neate is not not greedy or that Elms is greedy.
Or what???
Cheers Arcam.
Do these prices seem high to anyone else??
I know they have gone straight onto Ebay for twice the original sale amount, but compare them with the original sale price of a Banksy or a Micallef.
Does this mean that Banksy and Micaleff (Micallef, can't remember or be bothered to check) are good guys who are making good money but aren't greedy, that Neate is not not greedy or that Elms is greedy.
Or what???
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Neate print original prices, by slowmo on Aug 7, 2007 15:23:26 GMT 1, Hmm, the last three micallefs prints were runs of 50 and cost ยฃ4700 each?
Hmm, the last three micallefs prints were runs of 50 and cost ยฃ4700 each?
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Neate print original prices, by Existencil on Aug 7, 2007 15:27:11 GMT 1, Hey,
I think it's just that Adam Neate is good enough to justify the prices. Also, if you look at it from an investment standpoint (not that you should) then these prints could be become more valuable than anything Banksy & Micallef will ever produce. When people are talking about an artist in the same breath as Picasso, you have to take those prices on the chin!
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Hey,
I think it's just that Adam Neate is good enough to justify the prices. Also, if you look at it from an investment standpoint (not that you should) then these prints could be become more valuable than anything Banksy & Micallef will ever produce. When people are talking about an artist in the same breath as Picasso, you have to take those prices on the chin!
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Neate print original prices, by ABC on Aug 7, 2007 15:28:00 GMT 1, Its not about greed its about trying to get the stuff to collectors, the galleries are trying to stop the flow on ebay, I know Paul from Elms was.
Its not about greed its about trying to get the stuff to collectors, the galleries are trying to stop the flow on ebay, I know Paul from Elms was.
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Neate print original prices, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2007 15:31:23 GMT 1, Got me there.
I was thinking of the other lot that went for about 500 quid and the Banksy's that went for a few hundred quid.
OK, scratch Micallef from my theory and leave Banksy there.
Got me there.
I was thinking of the other lot that went for about 500 quid and the Banksy's that went for a few hundred quid.
OK, scratch Micallef from my theory and leave Banksy there.
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Neate print original prices, by RBK on Aug 7, 2007 15:32:32 GMT 1, Do these prices seem high to anyone else?? I know they have gone straight onto Ebay for twice the original sale amount, but compare them with the original sale price of a Banksy or a Micallef. Does this mean that Banksy and Micaleff (Micallef, can't remember or be bothered to check) are good guys who are making good money but aren't greedy, that Neate is not not greedy or that Elms is greedy. Or what???
You're kidding right? Prices aren't high at all - they barely had any to sell after the preview show and there were 9 prints!
Everyone needs to stop comparing Banksy/Micallef/Neate/Beejoir/etc. They are all different artists, with different gallery representation, with differing levels of talent, different PR vehicles, and different auction-house inclusion.
You obviously have had no dealings with Elms - as they are the least greedy people/gallery I have ever had dealings with in all my years of art collecting! And as an aside - that is one of the biggest reasons Mr. Neate chose them to represent him.
Do these prices seem high to anyone else?? I know they have gone straight onto Ebay for twice the original sale amount, but compare them with the original sale price of a Banksy or a Micallef. Does this mean that Banksy and Micaleff (Micallef, can't remember or be bothered to check) are good guys who are making good money but aren't greedy, that Neate is not not greedy or that Elms is greedy. Or what??? You're kidding right? Prices aren't high at all - they barely had any to sell after the preview show and there were 9 prints! Everyone needs to stop comparing Banksy/Micallef/Neate/Beejoir/etc. They are all different artists, with different gallery representation, with differing levels of talent, different PR vehicles, and different auction-house inclusion. You obviously have had no dealings with Elms - as they are the least greedy people/gallery I have ever had dealings with in all my years of art collecting! And as an aside - that is one of the biggest reasons Mr. Neate chose them to represent him. |
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Neate print original prices, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2007 15:32:47 GMT 1, Also not disrespecting anyone, just thinking out loud...
Also not disrespecting anyone, just thinking out loud...
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Neate print original prices, by mcnuts on Aug 7, 2007 15:35:17 GMT 1, Hey, I think it's just that Adam Neate is good enough to justify the prices. Also, if you look at it from an investment standpoint (not that you should) then these prints could be become more valuable than anything Banksy & Micallef will ever produce. When people are talking about an artist in the same breath as Picasso, you have to take those prices on the chin! Stuey*Esquire
banksy banksy banksy micallef micallef micallef warhol picasso --- all in the same breath 
Hey, I think it's just that Adam Neate is good enough to justify the prices. Also, if you look at it from an investment standpoint (not that you should) then these prints could be become more valuable than anything Banksy & Micallef will ever produce. When people are talking about an artist in the same breath as Picasso, you have to take those prices on the chin! Stuey*Esquire banksy banksy banksy micallef micallef micallef warhol picasso --- all in the same breath |
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Neate print original prices, by slowmo on Aug 7, 2007 15:36:32 GMT 1, No disrespect taken. The simple truth is that Banksy has undervalued his print work deliberately for some time. I guess a part of it is that he primarily sees himself as a street artist and is keen to be seen as this. If he priced his prints at ยฃ5,000 each they would sell out still, but how quickly and at what price to his reputation?
No disrespect taken. The simple truth is that Banksy has undervalued his print work deliberately for some time. I guess a part of it is that he primarily sees himself as a street artist and is keen to be seen as this. If he priced his prints at ยฃ5,000 each they would sell out still, but how quickly and at what price to his reputation?
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Neate print original prices, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 7, 2007 15:38:34 GMT 1, Do these prices seem high to anyone else?? I know they have gone straight onto Ebay for twice the original sale amount, but compare them with the original sale price of a Banksy or a Micallef. Does this mean that Banksy and Micaleff (Micallef, can't remember or be bothered to check) are good guys who are making good money but aren't greedy, that Neate is not not greedy or that Elms is greedy. Or what???
-no they are very reasonably priced..
-elms are certainly not greedy
-buying fantastic art should hurt. If I had 30k I would want the 60k original..its part of being a collector, always push for the best
Do these prices seem high to anyone else?? I know they have gone straight onto Ebay for twice the original sale amount, but compare them with the original sale price of a Banksy or a Micallef. Does this mean that Banksy and Micaleff (Micallef, can't remember or be bothered to check) are good guys who are making good money but aren't greedy, that Neate is not not greedy or that Elms is greedy. Or what??? -no they are very reasonably priced.. -elms are certainly not greedy -buying fantastic art should hurt. If I had 30k I would want the 60k original..its part of being a collector, always push for the best |
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Neate print original prices, by wlsp4657 on Aug 7, 2007 15:45:29 GMT 1, I agree that the prices are high. The Neate reproductions are exactly that REPRODUCTIONS. The are just printed out from an high quality inkjet printer. There is no craft to the printing process and almost no labor. And that fact that you can get an OG street piece for less then the prints is unreal!. Adam Neate went from making free art, to making millions. I don't particularly like his work and I can't see how people are trading amazing OG art for an edition or signed inkjet prints ;D ;D ;D ;D
I agree that the prices are high. The Neate reproductions are exactly that REPRODUCTIONS. The are just printed out from an high quality inkjet printer. There is no craft to the printing process and almost no labor. And that fact that you can get an OG street piece for less then the prints is unreal!. Adam Neate went from making free art, to making millions. I don't particularly like his work and I can't see how people are trading amazing OG art for an edition or signed inkjet prints ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Neate print original prices, by manchestermike on Aug 7, 2007 15:46:27 GMT 1, OK, scratch Micallef from my theory and leave Banksy there.
I don't think we will leave Banksy there for long.
I think at least one run of his next print will top ยฃ1,000
Also, what about the Soupcan prints at Laz?
Then there is the fact that none of the Neates was in a run bigger than 100
OK, scratch Micallef from my theory and leave Banksy there. I don't think we will leave Banksy there for long. I think at least one run of his next print will top ยฃ1,000 Also, what about the Soupcan prints at Laz? Then there is the fact that none of the Neates was in a run bigger than 100 |
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Neate print original prices, by bond on Aug 7, 2007 15:48:00 GMT 1, Personally , although i am gutted i could'nt get to the gallery i don't think that the ebay prices are too bad considering .
The pieces are amazing ,some of the best i have personally seen by anyone for some time - ( my opinion so don't neg me if you don't agree !! )
most are reaching a 100 % markup for the seller but when you consider the quality and insane mark ups for other artists the value becomes a lot more relative.
Depends on the reasons for buying i guess . I just wish i had some more available funds so i could add to my " deepend "
Personally , although i am gutted i could'nt get to the gallery i don't think that the ebay prices are too bad considering .
The pieces are amazing ,some of the best i have personally seen by anyone for some time - ( my opinion so don't neg me if you don't agree !! )
most are reaching a 100 % markup for the seller but when you consider the quality and insane mark ups for other artists the value becomes a lot more relative.
Depends on the reasons for buying i guess . I just wish i had some more available funds so i could add to my " deepend "
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Neate print original prices, by corblimeylimey on Aug 7, 2007 15:51:33 GMT 1, Personally , although i am gutted i could'nt get to the gallery i don't think that the ebay prices are too bad considering . The pieces are amazing ,some of the best i have personally seen by anyone for some time - ( may opinion so don't neg me if you don't agree !! ) most are reaching a 100 % markup for the seller but when you consider the quality and insane mark ups for other artists the value becomes a lot more relative. Depends on the reasons for buying i guess . I just wish i had some more available funds so i could add to my " deepend "
It's the scale though, a 100% Neate markup is around ยฃ1000 - ยฃ1500 other artists may make a 300% markup but the increase is only ยฃ300 or less.
Personally , although i am gutted i could'nt get to the gallery i don't think that the ebay prices are too bad considering . The pieces are amazing ,some of the best i have personally seen by anyone for some time - ( may opinion so don't neg me if you don't agree !! ) most are reaching a 100 % markup for the seller but when you consider the quality and insane mark ups for other artists the value becomes a lot more relative. Depends on the reasons for buying i guess . I just wish i had some more available funds so i could add to my " deepend " It's the scale though, a 100% Neate markup is around ยฃ1000 - ยฃ1500 other artists may make a 300% markup but the increase is only ยฃ300 or less. |
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Neate print original prices, by carlito on Aug 7, 2007 15:52:06 GMT 1, I agree that the prices are high. The Neate reproductions are exactly that REPRODUCTIONS. The are just printed out from an high quality inkjet printer. There is no craft to the printing process and almost no labor. And that fact that you can get an OG street piece for less then the prints is unreal!. Adam Neate went from making free art, to making millions. I don't particularly like his work and I can't see how people are trading amazing OG art for an edition or signed inkjet prints ;D ;D ;D ;D
do you know what I couldn't care less what printing process is used...they look absolutely superb, the images are some of the best I've seen in a very long time, all are very limited runs, are all signed, and he's the top upcoming artist in the UK (in my opinion)... so I'm not complaining at the money Elms and Adam have made they're alot more deserving than others i can think of...
I agree that the prices are high. The Neate reproductions are exactly that REPRODUCTIONS. The are just printed out from an high quality inkjet printer. There is no craft to the printing process and almost no labor. And that fact that you can get an OG street piece for less then the prints is unreal!. Adam Neate went from making free art, to making millions. I don't particularly like his work and I can't see how people are trading amazing OG art for an edition or signed inkjet prints ;D ;D ;D ;D do you know what I couldn't care less what printing process is used...they look absolutely superb, the images are some of the best I've seen in a very long time, all are very limited runs, are all signed, and he's the top upcoming artist in the UK (in my opinion)... so I'm not complaining at the money Elms and Adam have made they're alot more deserving than others i can think of... |
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Neate print original prices, by mwjm0 on Aug 7, 2007 15:52:17 GMT 1, if they cost ยฃ900 at the gallery and you can only flog them for ยฃ450 on ebay they are overpriced. If you can double or triple your outlay as soon as you've paid how can the initial cost look high? Elms Lesters could have charged ยฃ3000 per print and they would have sold out just as quick.
if they cost ยฃ900 at the gallery and you can only flog them for ยฃ450 on ebay they are overpriced. If you can double or triple your outlay as soon as you've paid how can the initial cost look high? Elms Lesters could have charged ยฃ3000 per print and they would have sold out just as quick.
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Neate print original prices, by bond on Aug 7, 2007 15:53:55 GMT 1, Just out of interest for a newish Neate fan - could one of you more enlightened forum members pls let me know how long he's been producing available work ? Not long i believe but excuse my ignorance if i'm way off 
Just out of interest for a newish Neate fan - could one of you more enlightened forum members pls let me know how long he's been producing available work ? Not long i believe but excuse my ignorance if i'm way off |
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Neate print original prices, by RBK on Aug 7, 2007 15:55:51 GMT 1, First prints were at the Elms show in Feb. 2007 - 'In Selected Stores Only'
His original work was been in group shows at Elms since 2006.
Previous to that he had some exhibitions with: Beautiful Crime & Spacejunk Gallery
First prints were at the Elms show in Feb. 2007 - 'In Selected Stores Only'
His original work was been in group shows at Elms since 2006.
Previous to that he had some exhibitions with: Beautiful Crime & Spacejunk Gallery
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Neate print original prices, by carlito on Aug 7, 2007 15:58:09 GMT 1, street pieces etc around for a good few years prior to this, dating back to 2003 or so I think
street pieces etc around for a good few years prior to this, dating back to 2003 or so I think
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Neate print original prices, by pezlow on Aug 7, 2007 15:58:34 GMT 1, if they cost ยฃ900 at the gallery and you can only flog them for ยฃ450 on ebay they are overpriced. If you can double or triple your outlay as soon as you've paid how can the initial cost look high? Elms Lesters could have charged ยฃ3000 per print and they would have sold out just as quick.
Not to me they wouldn't. It's all very well saying that the prints are cheap because they are going for double or triple that on ebay but if you want to keep the art that you buy the amount that the print is selling on ebay is completely irrelevant. There are clearly some seriously rich guys on this board who are prepared/able to drop ยฃ3k on art but I am not one of them.
Even if I'd been at the preview of the Neate show I would still have bought only one print because that is all I could afford.
if they cost ยฃ900 at the gallery and you can only flog them for ยฃ450 on ebay they are overpriced. If you can double or triple your outlay as soon as you've paid how can the initial cost look high? Elms Lesters could have charged ยฃ3000 per print and they would have sold out just as quick. Not to me they wouldn't. It's all very well saying that the prints are cheap because they are going for double or triple that on ebay but if you want to keep the art that you buy the amount that the print is selling on ebay is completely irrelevant. There are clearly some seriously rich guys on this board who are prepared/able to drop ยฃ3k on art but I am not one of them. Even if I'd been at the preview of the Neate show I would still have bought only one print because that is all I could afford. |
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Neate print original prices, by corblimeylimey on Aug 7, 2007 15:59:11 GMT 1, From what I can deduce he's been leaving pieces in the street since around 2003/4
From what I can deduce he's been leaving pieces in the street since around 2003/4
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Neate print original prices, by mammal2 on Aug 7, 2007 16:04:02 GMT 1, if they cost ยฃ900 at the gallery and you can only flog them for ยฃ450 on ebay they are overpriced. If you can double or triple your outlay as soon as you've paid how can the initial cost look high? Elms Lesters could have charged ยฃ3000 per print and they would have sold out just as quick. Not to me they wouldn't. It's all very well saying that the prints are cheap because they are going for double or triple that on ebay but if you want to keep the art that you buy the amount that the print is selling on ebay is completely irrelevant. There are clearly some seriously rich guys on this board who are prepared/able to drop ยฃ3k on art but I am not one of them. Even if I'd been at the preview of the Neate show I would still have bought only one print because that is all I could afford.
Pezlow you look loaded to me. Dapper suit = nuff cash. I think you lie and have 18 ISA's on the go!
if they cost ยฃ900 at the gallery and you can only flog them for ยฃ450 on ebay they are overpriced. If you can double or triple your outlay as soon as you've paid how can the initial cost look high? Elms Lesters could have charged ยฃ3000 per print and they would have sold out just as quick. Not to me they wouldn't. It's all very well saying that the prints are cheap because they are going for double or triple that on ebay but if you want to keep the art that you buy the amount that the print is selling on ebay is completely irrelevant. There are clearly some seriously rich guys on this board who are prepared/able to drop ยฃ3k on art but I am not one of them. Even if I'd been at the preview of the Neate show I would still have bought only one print because that is all I could afford. Pezlow you look loaded to me. Dapper suit = nuff cash. I think you lie and have 18 ISA's on the go! |
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Neate print original prices, by corblimeylimey on Aug 7, 2007 16:05:19 GMT 1, From the Elms Lesters web site, about the July 2006 show
"A new range of t.shirts and clothing from PRADA features Adamโs skilful line drawings and paintings."
Any one got any links, pics, availability, prices etc?
From the Elms Lesters web site, about the July 2006 show
"A new range of t.shirts and clothing from PRADA features Adamโs skilful line drawings and paintings."
Any one got any links, pics, availability, prices etc?
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Neate print original prices, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 7, 2007 16:05:56 GMT 1, I agree that the prices are high. The Neate reproductions are exactly that REPRODUCTIONS. The are just printed out from an high quality inkjet printer. There is no craft to the printing process and almost no labor. And that fact that you can get an OG street piece for less then the prints is unreal!. Adam Neate went from making free art, to making millions. I don't particularly like his work and I can't see how people are trading amazing OG art for an edition or signed inkjet prints ;D ;D ;D ;D
god its the 'inkjet' argument again.. who gives a crap? if the image is fantastic then buy it..
just because a screenprint is 'hand-pulled' doesnt make it more worthy
I agree that the prices are high. The Neate reproductions are exactly that REPRODUCTIONS. The are just printed out from an high quality inkjet printer. There is no craft to the printing process and almost no labor. And that fact that you can get an OG street piece for less then the prints is unreal!. Adam Neate went from making free art, to making millions. I don't particularly like his work and I can't see how people are trading amazing OG art for an edition or signed inkjet prints ;D ;D ;D ;D god its the 'inkjet' argument again.. who gives a crap? if the image is fantastic then buy it.. just because a screenprint is 'hand-pulled' doesnt make it more worthy |
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Neate print original prices, by pezlow on Aug 7, 2007 16:06:26 GMT 1, Lol - having two kids quickly sucks up any disposable income mammal. I swear the little b*ggers get up in the middle of the night and clear out all my accounts.
Lol - having two kids quickly sucks up any disposable income mammal. I swear the little b*ggers get up in the middle of the night and clear out all my accounts.
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Neate print original prices, by bond on Aug 7, 2007 16:07:43 GMT 1, Thanks everyone - fountain of knowledge as usual !!! ;D
Thanks everyone - fountain of knowledge as usual !!! ;D
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Neate print original prices, by mammal2 on Aug 7, 2007 16:08:00 GMT 1, Lol - having two kids quickly sucks up any disposable income mammal. I swear the little b*ggers get up in the middle of the night and clear out all my accounts.
Ha, them or Laz!!!
Lol - having two kids quickly sucks up any disposable income mammal. I swear the little b*ggers get up in the middle of the night and clear out all my accounts. Ha, them or Laz!!! |
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Neate print original prices, by alderevans2007 on Aug 7, 2007 16:09:36 GMT 1, I agree. An inkjet has just as much intrinsic value as the original. People aren't paying for the materials used, they are paying for the image and what it represents
I agree. An inkjet has just as much intrinsic value as the original. People aren't paying for the materials used, they are paying for the image and what it represents
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