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Neate print original prices, by corblimeylimey on Aug 7, 2007 16:12:38 GMT 1, It's NOT all about the image. If they were unlimited litho prints (which would look identical to the giclees btw) lots of people that are now interested wouldn't be.
It's NOT all about the image. If they were unlimited litho prints (which would look identical to the giclees btw) lots of people that are now interested wouldn't be.
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Neate print original prices, by ricosg11 on Aug 7, 2007 16:14:39 GMT 1, white portrait is my favorite piece I have ever come across, if there is an unlimited editon of the same quality sign me up
white portrait is my favorite piece I have ever come across, if there is an unlimited editon of the same quality sign me up
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Neate print original prices, by carlito on Aug 7, 2007 16:18:57 GMT 1, It's NOT all about the image. If they were unlimited litho prints (which would look identical to the giclees btw) lots of people that are now interested wouldn't be.
true of most pieces tho cbl, even Banksy's
It's NOT all about the image. If they were unlimited litho prints (which would look identical to the giclees btw) lots of people that are now interested wouldn't be. true of most pieces tho cbl, even Banksy's
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Neate print original prices, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 7, 2007 16:19:08 GMT 1, It's NOT all about the image. If they were unlimited litho prints (which would look identical to the giclees btw) lots of people that are now interested wouldn't be.
you can apply that to anything.. if 'morons' was an unlimited screenprint etc..
for me its all about the image. I dont care if its a litho or a giclee or whatever I love neates work and feel having had my nose 2 inches from them I can judge that the prints (esp. come on) looked fantastic and I wanted to buy one
It's NOT all about the image. If they were unlimited litho prints (which would look identical to the giclees btw) lots of people that are now interested wouldn't be. you can apply that to anything.. if 'morons' was an unlimited screenprint etc.. for me its all about the image. I dont care if its a litho or a giclee or whatever I love neates work and feel having had my nose 2 inches from them I can judge that the prints (esp. come on) looked fantastic and I wanted to buy one
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Neate print original prices, by alderevans2007 on Aug 7, 2007 16:19:25 GMT 1, It's NOT all about the image. If they were unlimited litho prints (which would look identical to the giclees btw) lots of people that are now interested wouldn't be.
edited:
Thats why I said "and what it represents".
I meant "what the print represents". What it represents is a desire to own something that not many other own. So we kinda agree.
Sorry, I wasn't too clear.
It's NOT all about the image. If they were unlimited litho prints (which would look identical to the giclees btw) lots of people that are now interested wouldn't be. edited: Thats why I said "and what it represents". I meant "what the print represents". What it represents is a desire to own something that not many other own. So we kinda agree. Sorry, I wasn't too clear.
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Neate print original prices, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 7, 2007 16:19:49 GMT 1, white portrait is my favorite piece I have ever come across, if there is an unlimited editon of the same quality sign me up
i'll have one too
white portrait is my favorite piece I have ever come across, if there is an unlimited editon of the same quality sign me up i'll have one too
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Neate print original prices, by carlito on Aug 7, 2007 16:21:07 GMT 1, i was bugging Fiona to check behind the sofa for a red portrait today...she was having none of it
i was bugging Fiona to check behind the sofa for a red portrait today...she was having none of it
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Neate print original prices, by mwjm0 on Aug 7, 2007 16:28:20 GMT 1, if they cost ยฃ900 at the gallery and you can only flog them for ยฃ450 on ebay they are overpriced. If you can double or triple your outlay as soon as you've paid how can the initial cost look high? Elms Lesters could have charged ยฃ3000 per print and they would have sold out just as quick. Not to me they wouldn't. It's all very well saying that the prints are cheap because they are going for double or triple that on ebay but if you want to keep the art that you buy the amount that the print is selling on ebay is completely irrelevant. There are clearly some seriously rich guys on this board who are prepared/able to drop ยฃ3k on art but I am not one of them. Even if I'd been at the preview of the Neate show I would still have bought only one print because that is all I could afford.
i never said they were cheap! if you keep them you are still approx 3 times better off than when you bought them.
if they cost ยฃ900 at the gallery and you can only flog them for ยฃ450 on ebay they are overpriced. If you can double or triple your outlay as soon as you've paid how can the initial cost look high? Elms Lesters could have charged ยฃ3000 per print and they would have sold out just as quick. Not to me they wouldn't. It's all very well saying that the prints are cheap because they are going for double or triple that on ebay but if you want to keep the art that you buy the amount that the print is selling on ebay is completely irrelevant. There are clearly some seriously rich guys on this board who are prepared/able to drop ยฃ3k on art but I am not one of them. Even if I'd been at the preview of the Neate show I would still have bought only one print because that is all I could afford. i never said they were cheap! if you keep them you are still approx 3 times better off than when you bought them.
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Neate print original prices, by corblimeylimey on Aug 7, 2007 16:35:10 GMT 1, You could get your Neate giclee professionally scanned and have another giclee made which would be identical, you could then sell your original giclee and have the replacement for under ยฃ200 including all the scanning and printing costs.
Who would do that?
I've already scanned my Grannies and Jack & Jill prints and in due course will have giclees made of them and I'll probably sell the originals, and put the giclees in the same frames, day to day I'll hardly notice the difference, but the difference will be larger than replacing a giclee with a giclee.
You could get your Neate giclee professionally scanned and have another giclee made which would be identical, you could then sell your original giclee and have the replacement for under ยฃ200 including all the scanning and printing costs.
Who would do that?
I've already scanned my Grannies and Jack & Jill prints and in due course will have giclees made of them and I'll probably sell the originals, and put the giclees in the same frames, day to day I'll hardly notice the difference, but the difference will be larger than replacing a giclee with a giclee.
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Neate print original prices, by finsburyparkranger on Aug 7, 2007 16:41:56 GMT 1, You could get your Neate giclee professionally scanned and have another giclee made which would be identical, you could then sell your original giclee and have the replacement for under ยฃ200 including all the scanning and printing costs. Who would do that? I've already scanned my Grannies and Jack & Jill prints and in due course will have giclees made of them and I'll probably sell the originals, and put the giclees in the same frames, day to day I'll hardly notice the difference, but the difference will be larger than replacing a giclee with a giclee.
Not that is the law is the best way to guide you in life, but is that legal?
You could get your Neate giclee professionally scanned and have another giclee made which would be identical, you could then sell your original giclee and have the replacement for under ยฃ200 including all the scanning and printing costs. Who would do that? I've already scanned my Grannies and Jack & Jill prints and in due course will have giclees made of them and I'll probably sell the originals, and put the giclees in the same frames, day to day I'll hardly notice the difference, but the difference will be larger than replacing a giclee with a giclee. Not that is the law is the best way to guide you in life, but is that legal?
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Neate print original prices, by slowmo on Aug 7, 2007 16:42:06 GMT 1, Careful what you're saying there CBL! You'll give people ideas . Have you printed any of your scanned images yet? I would love to have a spot the difference competition.
Careful what you're saying there CBL! You'll give people ideas . Have you printed any of your scanned images yet? I would love to have a spot the difference competition.
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Neate print original prices, by corblimeylimey on Aug 7, 2007 16:48:12 GMT 1, You could get your Neate giclee professionally scanned and have another giclee made which would be identical, you could then sell your original giclee and have the replacement for under ยฃ200 including all the scanning and printing costs. Who would do that? I've already scanned my Grannies and Jack & Jill prints and in due course will have giclees made of them and I'll probably sell the originals, and put the giclees in the same frames, day to day I'll hardly notice the difference, but the difference will be larger than replacing a giclee with a giclee. Not that is the law is the best way to guide you in life, but is that legal?
Not sure about the strict legality, but for personal use I think it'll be alright, the big problems would come if they were printed by the hundred and sold for profit.
Slomo, I intend to take my originals to the printer and make adjustments to the photoshop files myself to make sure they 100% match, when done, (won't be for a month or 2, I'm in no hurry and need to wait until the printer has free time) I'll post the results.
You could get your Neate giclee professionally scanned and have another giclee made which would be identical, you could then sell your original giclee and have the replacement for under ยฃ200 including all the scanning and printing costs. Who would do that? I've already scanned my Grannies and Jack & Jill prints and in due course will have giclees made of them and I'll probably sell the originals, and put the giclees in the same frames, day to day I'll hardly notice the difference, but the difference will be larger than replacing a giclee with a giclee. Not that is the law is the best way to guide you in life, but is that legal? Not sure about the strict legality, but for personal use I think it'll be alright, the big problems would come if they were printed by the hundred and sold for profit. Slomo, I intend to take my originals to the printer and make adjustments to the photoshop files myself to make sure they 100% match, when done, (won't be for a month or 2, I'm in no hurry and need to wait until the printer has free time) I'll post the results.
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Neate print original prices, by shavemysoul on Aug 7, 2007 16:49:09 GMT 1, i was bugging Fiona to check behind the sofa for a red portrait today...she was having none of it
Haha! ;D Elms obviously don't have a mystery, tempremental sofa like POW.
i was bugging Fiona to check behind the sofa for a red portrait today...she was having none of it Haha! ;D Elms obviously don't have a mystery, tempremental sofa like POW.
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Neate print original prices, by pezlow on Aug 7, 2007 16:49:55 GMT 1, Not to me they wouldn't. It's all very well saying that the prints are cheap because they are going for double or triple that on ebay but if you want to keep the art that you buy the amount that the print is selling on ebay is completely irrelevant. There are clearly some seriously rich guys on this board who are prepared/able to drop ยฃ3k on art but I am not one of them. Even if I'd been at the preview of the Neate show I would still have bought only one print because that is all I could afford. i never said they were cheap! if you keep them you are still approx 3 times better off than when you bought them.
Ok you didn't use the word cheap you just said the initial costs weren't high. I accept there is a semantic difference.
I don't get this idea that I am 3 times better off even if I keep the prints than when I bought them. If I am keeping the print I have ยฃ900 less in my bank account and a print on my walls that, if I ever were to sell it, might be worth ยฃ2000, say. But until I sell it I am not better off, I am worse off to the tune of ยฃ900. And the value of the art can go down as well as up.
Not to me they wouldn't. It's all very well saying that the prints are cheap because they are going for double or triple that on ebay but if you want to keep the art that you buy the amount that the print is selling on ebay is completely irrelevant. There are clearly some seriously rich guys on this board who are prepared/able to drop ยฃ3k on art but I am not one of them. Even if I'd been at the preview of the Neate show I would still have bought only one print because that is all I could afford. i never said they were cheap! if you keep them you are still approx 3 times better off than when you bought them. Ok you didn't use the word cheap you just said the initial costs weren't high. I accept there is a semantic difference. I don't get this idea that I am 3 times better off even if I keep the prints than when I bought them. If I am keeping the print I have ยฃ900 less in my bank account and a print on my walls that, if I ever were to sell it, might be worth ยฃ2000, say. But until I sell it I am not better off, I am worse off to the tune of ยฃ900. And the value of the art can go down as well as up.
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Neate print original prices, by headphonesex on Aug 7, 2007 16:56:39 GMT 1, -buying fantastic art should hurt.
Quote of the week!
-buying fantastic art should hurt. Quote of the week!
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Neate print original prices, by mwjm0 on Aug 7, 2007 16:57:04 GMT 1, i never said they were cheap! if you keep them you are still approx 3 times better off than when you bought them. Ok you didn't use the word cheap you just said the initial costs weren't high. I accept there is a semantic difference. I don't get this idea that I am 3 times better off even if I keep the prints than when I bought them. If I am keeping the print I have ยฃ900 less in my bank account and a print on my walls that, if I ever were to sell it, might be worth ยฃ2000, say. But until I sell it I am not better off, I am worse off to the tune of ยฃ900. And the value of the art can go down as well as up.
i'm not trying to be funny! if i bought my house for ยฃ100 and in 1 month it had risen to ยฃ300 my overall wealth would be ยฃ300 not minus ยฃ100. its about assests not whats in your current account!.
i never said they were cheap! if you keep them you are still approx 3 times better off than when you bought them. Ok you didn't use the word cheap you just said the initial costs weren't high. I accept there is a semantic difference. I don't get this idea that I am 3 times better off even if I keep the prints than when I bought them. If I am keeping the print I have ยฃ900 less in my bank account and a print on my walls that, if I ever were to sell it, might be worth ยฃ2000, say. But until I sell it I am not better off, I am worse off to the tune of ยฃ900. And the value of the art can go down as well as up. i'm not trying to be funny! if i bought my house for ยฃ100 and in 1 month it had risen to ยฃ300 my overall wealth would be ยฃ300 not minus ยฃ100. its about assests not whats in your current account!.
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Neate print original prices, by Existencil on Aug 7, 2007 17:00:17 GMT 1, Now somebody has put the first 'Bigger Picture' on the Bay.
Can't wait to see how high that goes...
Stuey*Esquire
Now somebody has put the first 'Bigger Picture' on the Bay.
Can't wait to see how high that goes...
Stuey*Esquire
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pezlow
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Neate print original prices, by pezlow on Aug 7, 2007 17:06:51 GMT 1, Ok you didn't use the word cheap you just said the initial costs weren't high. I accept there is a semantic difference. I don't get this idea that I am 3 times better off even if I keep the prints than when I bought them. If I am keeping the print I have ยฃ900 less in my bank account and a print on my walls that, if I ever were to sell it, might be worth ยฃ2000, say. But until I sell it I am not better off, I am worse off to the tune of ยฃ900. And the value of the art can go down as well as up. i'm not trying to be funny! if i bought my house for ยฃ100 and in 1 month it had risen to ยฃ300 my overall wealth would be ยฃ300 not minus ยฃ100. its about assests not whats in your current account!.
Perhaps but it is very very dangerous to think of a luxury item like art as an asset. Perhaps a picasso is an asset but a print by an up and coming artist (however sought after he may be) I'm not so sure.
Ok you didn't use the word cheap you just said the initial costs weren't high. I accept there is a semantic difference. I don't get this idea that I am 3 times better off even if I keep the prints than when I bought them. If I am keeping the print I have ยฃ900 less in my bank account and a print on my walls that, if I ever were to sell it, might be worth ยฃ2000, say. But until I sell it I am not better off, I am worse off to the tune of ยฃ900. And the value of the art can go down as well as up. i'm not trying to be funny! if i bought my house for ยฃ100 and in 1 month it had risen to ยฃ300 my overall wealth would be ยฃ300 not minus ยฃ100. its about assests not whats in your current account!. Perhaps but it is very very dangerous to think of a luxury item like art as an asset. Perhaps a picasso is an asset but a print by an up and coming artist (however sought after he may be) I'm not so sure.
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Neate print original prices, by mwjm0 on Aug 7, 2007 17:12:07 GMT 1, i'm not trying to be funny! if i bought my house for ยฃ100 and in 1 month it had risen to ยฃ300 my overall wealth would be ยฃ300 not minus ยฃ100. its about assests not whats in your current account!. Perhaps but it is very very dangerous to think of a luxury item like art as an asset. Perhaps a picasso is an asset but a print by an up and coming artist (however sought after he may be) I'm not so sure.
i agree. now, do you have any neate prints that you'll sell me?
i'm not trying to be funny! if i bought my house for ยฃ100 and in 1 month it had risen to ยฃ300 my overall wealth would be ยฃ300 not minus ยฃ100. its about assests not whats in your current account!. Perhaps but it is very very dangerous to think of a luxury item like art as an asset. Perhaps a picasso is an asset but a print by an up and coming artist (however sought after he may be) I'm not so sure. i agree. now, do you have any neate prints that you'll sell me?
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Neate print original prices, by pezlow on Aug 7, 2007 17:18:13 GMT 1, Nope - only have one (although I haven't yet got that one!) and that is not for sale
Nope - only have one (although I haven't yet got that one!) and that is not for sale
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Neate print original prices, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 7, 2007 17:27:46 GMT 1, -buying fantastic art should hurt. Quote of the week!
you knows it...
ta!
-buying fantastic art should hurt. Quote of the week! you knows it... ta!
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Neate print original prices, by corblimeylimey on Aug 7, 2007 17:40:26 GMT 1, Now somebody has put the first 'Bigger Picture' on the Bay. Can't wait to see how high that goes... Stuey*Esquire
Why?
Now somebody has put the first 'Bigger Picture' on the Bay. Can't wait to see how high that goes... Stuey*Esquire Why?
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Neate print original prices, by worlddomination on Aug 8, 2007 21:20:21 GMT 1, In a few years we will all look back on all these adam neate threads disect them and understand what happened!
In a few years we will all look back on all these adam neate threads disect them and understand what happened!
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