kennas
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Nola- Discussion, by kennas on Nov 20, 2008 18:09:18 GMT 1, I've started a seperate thread to discuss the print, as opposed to happy/sad stories of f5ing cramp!!
So what are the forum's thoughts on the print?
What do people see as the message/meaning?
etc....?
I've started a seperate thread to discuss the print, as opposed to happy/sad stories of f5ing cramp!!
So what are the forum's thoughts on the print?
What do people see as the message/meaning?
etc....?
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medicjones
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Nola- Discussion, by medicjones on Nov 20, 2008 18:13:46 GMT 1, How many Nolas are there ?
How many Nolas are there ?
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Nola- Discussion, by Sundowner on Nov 20, 2008 18:15:49 GMT 1, I think this is the best Banksy print in a long time......probably since Grin reaper
I think this is the best Banksy print in a long time......probably since Grin reaper
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Nola- Discussion, by bert on Nov 20, 2008 18:17:59 GMT 1, Hero made a good point in the other thread regarding the rain - it doesn't look as though the rain is under the umbrella as much as in the street piece...which kinda defeats the point a little bit.
I still like it a lot though, wish I had got one and well done to those that did!
Hero made a good point in the other thread regarding the rain - it doesn't look as though the rain is under the umbrella as much as in the street piece...which kinda defeats the point a little bit.
I still like it a lot though, wish I had got one and well done to those that did!
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kennas
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Nola- Discussion, by kennas on Nov 20, 2008 18:19:30 GMT 1, Seems it is an edition of 289 signed. Much speculation about whether unsigned or not will follow. 289 is sigificant as is the number of years old new orleans is.
Seems it is an edition of 289 signed. Much speculation about whether unsigned or not will follow. 289 is sigificant as is the number of years old new orleans is.
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kennas
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Nola- Discussion, by kennas on Nov 20, 2008 18:20:12 GMT 1, I love the image. Totally agree about the rain though, looks much better in the original.
I love the image. Totally agree about the rain though, looks much better in the original.
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Nola- Discussion, by graeme501 on Nov 20, 2008 18:31:08 GMT 1, i like the image very much, this seems to be from a sketch, rather than the street stencil
i like the image very much, this seems to be from a sketch, rather than the street stencil
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Nola- Discussion, by Sliding on the Walls on Nov 20, 2008 18:36:00 GMT 1, I really love this image. I think it will stand the test of time and appeal to people who aren't already Banksy fans. It has a certain haunting gothic presence about it don't you think?
I really love this image. I think it will stand the test of time and appeal to people who aren't already Banksy fans. It has a certain haunting gothic presence about it don't you think?
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Nola- Discussion, by Daniel Silk on Nov 20, 2008 18:37:14 GMT 1, I really love this image. I think it will stand the test of time and appeal to people who aren't already Banksy fans. It has a certain haunting gothic presence about it don't you think?
Yeah, its gonna win over a lot of people to really start looking at Banksy's work 
I really love this image. I think it will stand the test of time and appeal to people who aren't already Banksy fans. It has a certain haunting gothic presence about it don't you think? Yeah, its gonna win over a lot of people to really start looking at Banksy's work |
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Nola- Discussion, by They call me Stephen on Nov 20, 2008 18:37:27 GMT 1, now that would be a print silky ;D ;D
beautiful print....
first street piece to be made into a print since cnd if i'm correct(??)
now that would be a print silky ;D ;D
beautiful print....
first street piece to be made into a print since cnd if i'm correct(??)
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Nola- Discussion, by iAmCxxx on Nov 20, 2008 18:37:39 GMT 1, The image is beautiful but......it is wrong. The rain has to be inside the brolly. If not it makes no sense. Banksy should really have done better. Kinda surprised he released it as it is. No disrespect to the big-guy but my tuppence worth.
The image is beautiful but......it is wrong. The rain has to be inside the brolly. If not it makes no sense. Banksy should really have done better. Kinda surprised he released it as it is. No disrespect to the big-guy but my tuppence worth.
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Nola- Discussion, by Standard on Nov 20, 2008 20:10:55 GMT 1, I like it, although the rain could have been a little better, like the street piece.
I like it, although the rain could have been a little better, like the street piece.
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Nola- Discussion, by Michael Jacob on Nov 20, 2008 20:14:40 GMT 1, I like it. A hell of alot more thought went into it than the signed London brick!
I like it. A hell of alot more thought went into it than the signed London brick!
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Nola- Discussion, by lalinea on Nov 20, 2008 20:27:27 GMT 1, What time did they finally show up??
What time did they finally show up??
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Nola- Discussion, by rosstierney on Nov 20, 2008 20:31:02 GMT 1, What time did they finally show up??
16:00 (UK)
What time did they finally show up?? 16:00 (UK) |
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Nola- Discussion, by spenie1975 on Nov 20, 2008 20:31:12 GMT 1, 16.00
16.00
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lalinea
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Nola- Discussion, by lalinea on Nov 20, 2008 20:34:54 GMT 1, Thanks!
Thanks!
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Nola- Discussion, by raiden on Nov 20, 2008 20:57:40 GMT 1, Anyone else notice that the umbrella in this print looks photo realistic in the same way you saw with 'Applause'? Interesting that more and more Banksy's print pieces seem to be diverging from the traditional use of stencil.
Anyone else notice that the umbrella in this print looks photo realistic in the same way you saw with 'Applause'? Interesting that more and more Banksy's print pieces seem to be diverging from the traditional use of stencil.
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Nola- Discussion, by Bram on Nov 20, 2008 21:17:05 GMT 1, I like it a lot. I think it is very poignant without being too obvious / cheesy
I like it a lot. I think it is very poignant without being too obvious / cheesy
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Nola- Discussion, by grantb on Nov 20, 2008 21:22:48 GMT 1, one of my favourite banksy images. so happy i managed to get a print aswell.
one of my favourite banksy images. so happy i managed to get a print aswell.
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Nola- Discussion, by angel41 on Nov 20, 2008 21:29:47 GMT 1, Was a great lover of the street piece and I am of the print, but as mentioned on this thread the rain doesn't look as if its coming from underneath the umberella. Original was far superior.
Was a great lover of the street piece and I am of the print, but as mentioned on this thread the rain doesn't look as if its coming from underneath the umberella. Original was far superior.
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Nola- Discussion, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 21:35:41 GMT 1, I don't know how he achieves it with such a simple design, but this just screams banksy. Love it
I don't know how he achieves it with such a simple design, but this just screams banksy. Love it
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Standard
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Nola- Discussion, by Standard on Nov 20, 2008 21:40:22 GMT 1, I wish I was around today when these went up as I certainly would of had a go at getting my first Bansky, but if I was lucky enugh I would of probably put it for a swap for one of my favourites, WSM or a nice rat.
I wish I was around today when these went up as I certainly would of had a go at getting my first Bansky, but if I was lucky enugh I would of probably put it for a swap for one of my favourites, WSM or a nice rat.
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Nola- Discussion, by raiden on Nov 20, 2008 21:48:38 GMT 1, What do you think the eventual aftermarket for it will be? One's been bid up to ยฃ1,750.00 at this point. I predict by January it will settle in at ยฃ1,500.00 given that an S/N S&S on the bay went for ยฃ1,300.00.
I would have to imagine that they would do what they did with Flags and Trolleys and release another Santa's Ghetto Edition of 289 as well.
I agree with what I've heard about no unsigned editions. There has been a move away from unsigned editions throughout the market and I've heard this reiterated by people too often - but when something sells out in seconds, I could see POW pushing for it.
What do you think the eventual aftermarket for it will be? One's been bid up to ยฃ1,750.00 at this point. I predict by January it will settle in at ยฃ1,500.00 given that an S/N S&S on the bay went for ยฃ1,300.00.
I would have to imagine that they would do what they did with Flags and Trolleys and release another Santa's Ghetto Edition of 289 as well.
I agree with what I've heard about no unsigned editions. There has been a move away from unsigned editions throughout the market and I've heard this reiterated by people too often - but when something sells out in seconds, I could see POW pushing for it.
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Nola- Discussion, by thesewalls on Nov 20, 2008 22:16:57 GMT 1, 
personally, i do not like the image. well, not as a Banksy print at least. it's historical context makes it a 'witty' choice for the artist, but to me it's tired and played out. that girl with the umbrella has been around for almost 100 years, rain falling under and all. Banksy used this very American image to comment on exactly that, but did so poorly (no pun intended) in my opinion. almost as boring (or as genius) as a can of soup. he did get the whole 'salt in the wound' thing down though, which i believe to be a big part of this images meaning. that and not so much the fact that it's raining under the umbrella, but that the girl is checking the weather outside of the umbrella...a world that is inches away, but lifetimes apart.
The Umbrella Girl through the Years
1914
The original Morton Salt Umbrella Girl appeared in 1914 with the now familiar slogan 'When It Rains It Pours".
1921
The second Morton Salt Umbrella Girl danced on the scene 1921. The twenties were roaring and the little Morton girl was still pouring.
1933
In the post-Depression years from 1933 to 1941, jazz was king. And as it reigned, our little girl kept pouring.
1941
The fourth Morton Salt Umbrella Girl was introduced to America in 1941. While our boys were off to war, our little girl was serving at home.
1956
Rock and roll was starting to shake things up in 1956 and our little girl was still filling salt shakers.
1968-Today
Since her most recent makeover in 1968, the current Umbrella Girl has been with us through moon launches, hip-hop and the growth of the Internet.
personally, i do not like the image. well, not as a Banksy print at least. it's historical context makes it a 'witty' choice for the artist, but to me it's tired and played out. that girl with the umbrella has been around for almost 100 years, rain falling under and all. Banksy used this very American image to comment on exactly that, but did so poorly (no pun intended) in my opinion. almost as boring (or as genius) as a can of soup. he did get the whole 'salt in the wound' thing down though, which i believe to be a big part of this images meaning. that and not so much the fact that it's raining under the umbrella, but that the girl is checking the weather outside of the umbrella...a world that is inches away, but lifetimes apart. The Umbrella Girl through the Years 1914 The original Morton Salt Umbrella Girl appeared in 1914 with the now familiar slogan 'When It Rains It Pours". 1921 The second Morton Salt Umbrella Girl danced on the scene 1921. The twenties were roaring and the little Morton girl was still pouring. 1933 In the post-Depression years from 1933 to 1941, jazz was king. And as it reigned, our little girl kept pouring. 1941 The fourth Morton Salt Umbrella Girl was introduced to America in 1941. While our boys were off to war, our little girl was serving at home. 1956 Rock and roll was starting to shake things up in 1956 and our little girl was still filling salt shakers. 1968-Today Since her most recent makeover in 1968, the current Umbrella Girl has been with us through moon launches, hip-hop and the growth of the Internet. |
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Nola- Discussion, by froz on Nov 20, 2008 22:30:37 GMT 1, I like the image...i dont think that the rain is supposed to go under the umbrella but what it means is it is always raining on her hence why she sticks her hand out past the umbrella where it isnt raining a couple feet from her at all. I think it is a little bit more indepth than the Morton salt umbrella girl and I dont think that "rain" in the morton salt umbrella girl is coming from underneath...its an illusion to give depth...the rain that looks like it is underneath the umbrella is actually infront of it falling around.
I like the image...i dont think that the rain is supposed to go under the umbrella but what it means is it is always raining on her hence why she sticks her hand out past the umbrella where it isnt raining a couple feet from her at all. I think it is a little bit more indepth than the Morton salt umbrella girl and I dont think that "rain" in the morton salt umbrella girl is coming from underneath...its an illusion to give depth...the rain that looks like it is underneath the umbrella is actually infront of it falling around.
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Nola- Discussion, by becksaboo on Nov 21, 2008 0:34:45 GMT 1, Good points thesewalls. I like the image, you can view it as a cutting commentary on katrina but also as a take on the travis song, why does it always rain on me!
I know which meaning I'll use to interpret it!
I think it's insteresting that it's a street piece as I can't remember the last time he did that - CND?
So does this mean he hasn't put that much thought into it and just wanted the money to pay for some of the other shows / ghetto etc OR is it a sign of things to come in that he'll convert more street pieces into prints?
Good points thesewalls. I like the image, you can view it as a cutting commentary on katrina but also as a take on the travis song, why does it always rain on me!
I know which meaning I'll use to interpret it!
I think it's insteresting that it's a street piece as I can't remember the last time he did that - CND?
So does this mean he hasn't put that much thought into it and just wanted the money to pay for some of the other shows / ghetto etc OR is it a sign of things to come in that he'll convert more street pieces into prints?
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Nola- Discussion, by rosstierney on Nov 21, 2008 0:47:29 GMT 1, Weird the way it's Rene Magritte's 110th Birthday too
Weird the way it's Rene Magritte's 110th Birthday too |
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Nola- Discussion, by weeble on Nov 21, 2008 0:52:52 GMT 1, So have POW changed the Banksy images on their site to reflect that Banksy has consciously moved in some sort of direction with the monochrome?
And, I always thought the Nola image showed it was raining inside the umbrella. But my wife has just told me don't be stupid it's just rain pouring off the brolly as per everday life. So there was I thinking it was, albeit slightly cheesily, conceptual, but... now, not sure.
On the whole though, love it! Proper Bansky stylie, real street feel with a his own style that some say is impossible to achieve through stencil work, but Banksy is still in a class of his own and unmistakable. This is what this forum was about for me - the master!
So have POW changed the Banksy images on their site to reflect that Banksy has consciously moved in some sort of direction with the monochrome? And, I always thought the Nola image showed it was raining inside the umbrella. But my wife has just told me don't be stupid it's just rain pouring off the brolly as per everday life. So there was I thinking it was, albeit slightly cheesily, conceptual, but... now, not sure. On the whole though, love it! Proper Bansky stylie, real street feel with a his own style that some say is impossible to achieve through stencil work, but Banksy is still in a class of his own and unmistakable. This is what this forum was about for me - the master! |
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