moleman
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you can all have the finger, by moleman on Feb 8, 2009 11:40:28 GMT 1, thats it flip like fuck and take the piss its the way forward
i sold a special bit ( i think it was) to a member on here at cost in dec as i didnt want to flip it as a i got it as a favour. They then sold the framed one they had. now there selling the one i sold them foe over 200 profit.
Beware all members trust is easily lost and there are many shady people on here.
I have now had my fingers burnt and will think twice in future before being nice to any members on here again.
you know who you are if you want to sell it back to me at cost ill take it back
thats it flip like fuck and take the piss its the way forward
i sold a special bit ( i think it was) to a member on here at cost in dec as i didnt want to flip it as a i got it as a favour. They then sold the framed one they had. now there selling the one i sold them foe over 200 profit.
Beware all members trust is easily lost and there are many shady people on here.
I have now had my fingers burnt and will think twice in future before being nice to any members on here again.
you know who you are if you want to sell it back to me at cost ill take it back
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you can all have the finger, by dh on Feb 8, 2009 13:15:45 GMT 1, Sounds like the person has a good business head to me haha! have you got anything else you would like to sell at cost? Banksy would be good.
Sounds like the person has a good business head to me haha! have you got anything else you would like to sell at cost? Banksy would be good.
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moleman
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you can all have the finger, by moleman on Feb 8, 2009 13:24:59 GMT 1, thanks for that dave
knob
you right probably about his head but it shows alot about his character
should see his other items for sale
thanks for that dave
knob
you right probably about his head but it shows alot about his character
should see his other items for sale
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etched
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you can all have the finger, by etched on Feb 8, 2009 13:31:59 GMT 1, what is it-
what is it-
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you can all have the finger, by manty on Feb 8, 2009 15:35:53 GMT 1, Would be cool if the person did sell it back to you at cost
Would be cool if the person did sell it back to you at cost
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gbh
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you can all have the finger, by gbh on Feb 8, 2009 15:54:12 GMT 1, moleman, I feel your pain.
Of late I have taken to a specific guideline for sales and swaps.
I'll only deal with known members or those that have been around over a certain time frame.
way too much tripe coming through of late.
stars mean nothing
moleman, I feel your pain.
Of late I have taken to a specific guideline for sales and swaps.
I'll only deal with known members or those that have been around over a certain time frame.
way too much tripe coming through of late.
stars mean nothing
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you can all have the finger, by bigwilly on Feb 8, 2009 16:06:16 GMT 1, are you upset that you didn't make the $200 profit? Or maybe he should split the proceeds with you?
are you upset that you didn't make the $200 profit? Or maybe he should split the proceeds with you?
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moleman
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you can all have the finger, by moleman on Feb 8, 2009 16:07:11 GMT 1, Long standing member many stars i thought well respected. I will keep you up to date when/if the member replies
Long standing member many stars i thought well respected. I will keep you up to date when/if the member replies
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gbh
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you can all have the finger, by gbh on Feb 8, 2009 16:10:15 GMT 1, on the flipside (of the issue, I don't necessarily mean WK), I have done (both ways) some outstanding deals with trusted members here over time
Deals that in no way could be gotten on the open market, and those type of deals are down to/possible because of relationship/trust
hasn't happened to me but that sucks arse when it's taken advantage of
big will, it's not always about the $$$$
edit: flipside clarification
on the flipside (of the issue, I don't necessarily mean WK), I have done (both ways) some outstanding deals with trusted members here over time Deals that in no way could be gotten on the open market, and those type of deals are down to/possible because of relationship/trust hasn't happened to me but that sucks arse when it's taken advantage of big will, it's not always about the $$$$ edit: flipside clarification |
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you can all have the finger, by cashman on Feb 8, 2009 16:32:24 GMT 1, Once you have done a deal imo its got not nothing to do with you
In only the last couple of weeks ive traded prints and they have ended up on here over this weekend.....not my problem
Ive also agreed deals in the past knowing that by the time id actually finalized the deal i was loosing out on upto ยฃ1000
If I buy a print today and sell it next week for 10 x the amount next week, it has nothing to do with the previous owner
unless a agreement had been made on a profit split
Once you have done a deal imo its got not nothing to do with you
In only the last couple of weeks ive traded prints and they have ended up on here over this weekend.....not my problem
Ive also agreed deals in the past knowing that by the time id actually finalized the deal i was loosing out on upto ยฃ1000
If I buy a print today and sell it next week for 10 x the amount next week, it has nothing to do with the previous owner
unless a agreement had been made on a profit split
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moleman
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you can all have the finger, by moleman on Feb 8, 2009 16:38:23 GMT 1, Its not that big willy im sure some people think so. As i said the member in question was keen to get it at the time and i thought they were a decent type. I was running out of space and wobs was coming. They then advertised there one which was framed on here for all i know they made money on that. Then less than 2 month there selling it with no thought as to how i would take it. I could have flipped it when i got it and made more than 200 but through respect to the gallery decided otherwise. Its not that this is the only thing there are selling on ebay that they have bought and promoted on here very recently. I realise people flip to increase there collection but i think this is a little under handed and way out of order. they seem to be very lucky with out ripping me off that is my opinion of what happened
Its not that big willy im sure some people think so. As i said the member in question was keen to get it at the time and i thought they were a decent type. I was running out of space and wobs was coming. They then advertised there one which was framed on here for all i know they made money on that. Then less than 2 month there selling it with no thought as to how i would take it. I could have flipped it when i got it and made more than 200 but through respect to the gallery decided otherwise. Its not that this is the only thing there are selling on ebay that they have bought and promoted on here very recently. I realise people flip to increase there collection but i think this is a little under handed and way out of order. they seem to be very lucky with out ripping me off that is my opinion of what happened
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moleman
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you can all have the finger, by moleman on Feb 8, 2009 16:56:51 GMT 1, in that case cash man the heading says it all
in that case cash man the heading says it all
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etched
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you can all have the finger, by etched on Feb 8, 2009 17:09:44 GMT 1, Its not that big willy im sure some people think so. As i said the member in question was keen to get it at the time and i thought they were a decent type. I was running out of space and wobs was coming. They then advertised there one which was framed on here for all i know they made money on that. Then less than 2 month there selling it with no thought as to how i would take it. I could have flipped it when i got it and made more than 200 but through respect to the gallery decided otherwise. Its not that this is the only thing there are selling on ebay that they have bought and promoted on here very recently. I realise people flip to increase there collection but i think this is a little under handed and way out of order. they seem to be very lucky with out ripping me off that is my opinion of what happened
whats the piece?
Its not that big willy im sure some people think so. As i said the member in question was keen to get it at the time and i thought they were a decent type. I was running out of space and wobs was coming. They then advertised there one which was framed on here for all i know they made money on that. Then less than 2 month there selling it with no thought as to how i would take it. I could have flipped it when i got it and made more than 200 but through respect to the gallery decided otherwise. Its not that this is the only thing there are selling on ebay that they have bought and promoted on here very recently. I realise people flip to increase there collection but i think this is a little under handed and way out of order. they seem to be very lucky with out ripping me off that is my opinion of what happened whats the piece? |
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moleman
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you can all have the finger, by moleman on Feb 8, 2009 17:15:44 GMT 1, pm'ed
pm'ed
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you can all have the finger, by cashman on Feb 8, 2009 17:31:56 GMT 1, in that case cash man the heading says it all
what me personally ?? get a grip
I sell most of my stuff at cost, hoping that the favour will be returned sometime... NOT presuming ill get a cut of the cash, on a piece that I obviously didn't want in the first place. Do you know the circumstances that lead to this person selling ?
in that case cash man the heading says it all what me personally ?? get a grip I sell most of my stuff at cost, hoping that the favour will be returned sometime... NOT presuming ill get a cut of the cash, on a piece that I obviously didn't want in the first place. Do you know the circumstances that lead to this person selling ? |
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moleman
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you can all have the finger, by moleman on Feb 8, 2009 17:39:15 GMT 1, no not to you personaly its a general notice that im fucked off
the3 person flips print and concert tickets and next time they start on someone about fore mentioned they will get some abuse.
You can presume all you like saying i didnt want it but you try do some one a favour and this is what can happen.
im sure pud wanted that canvas he sold to that guy for cost to.
I dont think there short of cash going by there recent purchases.
And as for get a grip no thanks im happy with the values i have shame others arnt so high as mine.
I can say hands up i have never stitched a forum member before over any print sales
no not to you personaly its a general notice that im fucked off
the3 person flips print and concert tickets and next time they start on someone about fore mentioned they will get some abuse.
You can presume all you like saying i didnt want it but you try do some one a favour and this is what can happen.
im sure pud wanted that canvas he sold to that guy for cost to.
I dont think there short of cash going by there recent purchases.
And as for get a grip no thanks im happy with the values i have shame others arnt so high as mine.
I can say hands up i have never stitched a forum member before over any print sales
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you can all have the finger, by cashman on Feb 8, 2009 17:47:39 GMT 1, I only said get a grip as I thought u were starting a personal attack on me..
I can indeed see where your coming from, but unless u name and shame
this person the rant is pointless....I agree with your values as ive never stitched anyone up myself
although im Shaw ive been turned over a few times...I just try and learn from it
I only said get a grip as I thought u were starting a personal attack on me..
I can indeed see where your coming from, but unless u name and shame
this person the rant is pointless....I agree with your values as ive never stitched anyone up myself
although im Shaw ive been turned over a few times...I just try and learn from it
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patrese
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you can all have the finger, by patrese on Feb 8, 2009 19:39:52 GMT 1, either spit it out or stop moaning like a teenage girl, seriously
either spit it out or stop moaning like a teenage girl, seriously
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you can all have the finger, by hero on Feb 8, 2009 19:46:24 GMT 1, it is the art market, do you think POW complain to every tom, dick and harry about the secondary market...its just how it goes in the art market...
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it is the art market, do you think POW complain to every tom, dick and harry about the secondary market...its just how it goes in the art market...
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moleman
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you can all have the finger, by moleman on Feb 8, 2009 20:06:36 GMT 1, can winge all i like its a forum
im waiting for a reply from the guy
and hero your right about pow but what they make in one release is more than i make in a year if you piss on the little guy whats left
can winge all i like its a forum
im waiting for a reply from the guy
and hero your right about pow but what they make in one release is more than i make in a year if you piss on the little guy whats left
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olapig
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you can all have the finger, by olapig on Feb 8, 2009 20:06:50 GMT 1, With all due respect Hero, POW earn their money on the print release in the first place and demand on the secondary market is good for them as it ensures that they sell out next time round. I don't think that you can compare the two.
I also think some people are missing the point a bit here, i don't think it's about Moleman losing out on ยฃ200, i think he feels as if he's been taken for a ride. If i was him i would be pi**ed off
With all due respect Hero, POW earn their money on the print release in the first place and demand on the secondary market is good for them as it ensures that they sell out next time round. I don't think that you can compare the two.
I also think some people are missing the point a bit here, i don't think it's about Moleman losing out on ยฃ200, i think he feels as if he's been taken for a ride. If i was him i would be pi**ed off
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you can all have the finger, by hero on Feb 8, 2009 20:15:40 GMT 1, all i was trying to say is that, it happens in the art world...art is worth what somebody will pay for it, sure id like to know what the piece was, and it was a very nice thing for moley to sell it at cost, but you have to be aware that people sell stuff at a mark up all the time, the market fluctuates a lot...
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all i was trying to say is that, it happens in the art world...art is worth what somebody will pay for it, sure id like to know what the piece was, and it was a very nice thing for moley to sell it at cost, but you have to be aware that people sell stuff at a mark up all the time, the market fluctuates a lot...
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you can all have the finger, by dh on Feb 8, 2009 20:21:41 GMT 1, Wrong, from what I can tell from previous posts this piece of art was sold at a below market value on the understanding it was going to a good home. Surely it would of been correct to at least contact Moleman and let him know it's going on eBay.
Wrong, from what I can tell from previous posts this piece of art was sold at a below market value on the understanding it was going to a good home. Surely it would of been correct to at least contact Moleman and let him know it's going on eBay.
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Grubster
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you can all have the finger, by Grubster on Feb 8, 2009 21:20:14 GMT 1, yes agrre with Dave and moleman and many others! Doing another member a solid and in return being lied to and manipulated is WRONG, IMMORAL, and definitely shouldn't be tolerated! i will be thinkin twice before dropin favors
yes agrre with Dave and moleman and many others! Doing another member a solid and in return being lied to and manipulated is WRONG, IMMORAL, and definitely shouldn't be tolerated! i will be thinkin twice before dropin favors
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gbh
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you can all have the finger, by gbh on Feb 8, 2009 22:21:48 GMT 1, under the circumstances, I think this is more suitable for where a finger was inserted
under the circumstances, I think this is more suitable for where a finger was inserted |
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you can all have the finger, by mcnuts on Feb 8, 2009 22:29:51 GMT 1,  For the fingers 
(it's special fx btw and not real if that helps you not chuck up your lunch)
For the fingers (it's special fx btw and not real if that helps you not chuck up your lunch) |
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you can all have the finger, by junkieart on Feb 8, 2009 23:05:45 GMT 1, Ouch, sorry to hear this story, lifes a bitch, hey ho. If all your worried about ยฃ200 plus a bit of respect then lucky you!
There a big world out there!! come on!!
Ouch, sorry to hear this story, lifes a bitch, hey ho. If all your worried about ยฃ200 plus a bit of respect then lucky you!
There a big world out there!! come on!!
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you can all have the finger, by junkieart on Feb 8, 2009 23:12:19 GMT 1, Sorry, just re-read the subject. Thats very kind of you I'd like a chocolate one please :-)
Sorry, just re-read the subject. Thats very kind of you I'd like a chocolate one please :-)
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you can all have the finger, by rosstierney on Feb 9, 2009 3:20:34 GMT 1, 
moleman's talking about me & a hush - little angels (artist proof)
he needed to sell not long after release & didn't want andrew (urban angel) to think he was a flipper so he had to advertise it at cost
after a few days of no takers, i knew he needed the cash & i had the readies so i bought it with the view of selling my framed regular edition that i bought off the show wall & frame the artist proof to my own specification
i don't know why you think you done me a favour?
i'm giving you permission to post any pm i sent regarding the purchase
also, i don't know what makes you think i've sold the framed print? the only reason i've advertised the artist proof is because that didn't sell & the time has come where i could do with the cash too so one or the other has to go
if anyone's really interested, use the forum search facility located at the top & bottom of the ebay board
you could have contacted me before embarrassing yourself
Its not that this is the only thing there are selling on ebay that they have bought and promoted on here very recently.
i'd love to know what that comment is regarding? i've got nothing to hide & i'm as transparent as they come. it's not in my interest for you to know anything about me but if you require an explanation for any of my adverts i'd be happy to do so publicly. i'm pretty sure the answer will be 'duplicate obtained via a swap' but i'm giving you the opportunity to fire away.
moleman's talking about me & a hush - little angels (artist proof) he needed to sell not long after release & didn't want andrew (urban angel) to think he was a flipper so he had to advertise it at cost after a few days of no takers, i knew he needed the cash & i had the readies so i bought it with the view of selling my framed regular edition that i bought off the show wall & frame the artist proof to my own specification i don't know why you think you done me a favour? i'm giving you permission to post any pm i sent regarding the purchase also, i don't know what makes you think i've sold the framed print? the only reason i've advertised the artist proof is because that didn't sell & the time has come where i could do with the cash too so one or the other has to go if anyone's really interested, use the forum search facility located at the top & bottom of the ebay board you could have contacted me before embarrassing yourself Its not that this is the only thing there are selling on ebay that they have bought and promoted on here very recently. i'd love to know what that comment is regarding? i've got nothing to hide & i'm as transparent as they come. it's not in my interest for you to know anything about me but if you require an explanation for any of my adverts i'd be happy to do so publicly. i'm pretty sure the answer will be 'duplicate obtained via a swap' but i'm giving you the opportunity to fire away. |
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