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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by mose on Nov 7, 2008 18:48:07 GMT 1, These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop.
Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show.
These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop.
Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by bored with screen names on Nov 7, 2008 18:54:35 GMT 1, These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show.
I agree on the prints so far. They look drab to me.
However, the show IMO looks absolutely amazing. I think it's the use of color vs the lack of it in the prints shown that's the difference maker.
These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show. I agree on the prints so far. They look drab to me. However, the show IMO looks absolutely amazing. I think it's the use of color vs the lack of it in the prints shown that's the difference maker.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by Francis on Nov 7, 2008 19:49:53 GMT 1,
These would look great next to Hits and Crashes. It's like...the past...meet the recent past
These would look great next to Hits and Crashes. It's like...the past...meet the recent past
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by Philippe on Nov 7, 2008 21:30:57 GMT 1, Had a look earlier over at the print shop and like most faile's the jpeg's do the actual work no justice. All the prints are on key foods paper and are nice and messy a nice contrast from most of the work at the show. Some are definitely way better than others but I've got my eye on a couple.
Had a look earlier over at the print shop and like most faile's the jpeg's do the actual work no justice. All the prints are on key foods paper and are nice and messy a nice contrast from most of the work at the show. Some are definitely way better than others but I've got my eye on a couple.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by slowmo on Nov 7, 2008 21:40:28 GMT 1, These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show.
Parla = xxxxxxxx Made my opinion clear on that long ago. Stopped going near Parla threads long ago (if you have nothing good to say), but when you come onto a faile thread saying he stepped up and they didnt, its very subjective and pointless. no? Just don't comment, or I will unload on Parla threads again ;D.
These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show. Parla = xxxxxxxx Made my opinion clear on that long ago. Stopped going near Parla threads long ago (if you have nothing good to say), but when you come onto a faile thread saying he stepped up and they didnt, its very subjective and pointless. no? Just don't comment, or I will unload on Parla threads again ;D.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by pezlow on Nov 7, 2008 21:43:34 GMT 1, These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show.
I wouldn't disagree with you about the prints but having been to both the faile and the parla show in the last 24 hours the faile show wins HANDS DOWN for me. The Parla show is good but the faile show is genre-transforming.
These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show. I wouldn't disagree with you about the prints but having been to both the faile and the parla show in the last 24 hours the faile show wins HANDS DOWN for me. The Parla show is good but the faile show is genre-transforming.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by mcnuts on Nov 7, 2008 21:46:45 GMT 1, Mose, have you seen the faile show?
I would agree with you if: -you replaced Faile with Parla and Parla with Faile in your statement.
Edit: Like pezlow says, you are correct on the prints BUT...
These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show. Parla = xxxxxxxx Made my opinion clear on that long ago. Stopped going near Parla threads long ago (if you have nothing good to say), but when you come onto a faile thread saying he stepped up and they didnt, its very subjective and pointless. no? Just don't comment, or I will unload on Parla threads again ;D.
Mose, have you seen the faile show? I would agree with you if: -you replaced Faile with Parla and Parla with Faile in your statement. Edit: Like pezlow says, you are correct on the prints BUT... These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show. Parla = xxxxxxxx Made my opinion clear on that long ago. Stopped going near Parla threads long ago (if you have nothing good to say), but when you come onto a faile thread saying he stepped up and they didnt, its very subjective and pointless. no? Just don't comment, or I will unload on Parla threads again ;D.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by motor on Nov 7, 2008 21:56:23 GMT 1, These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show.
I haven't seen those prints with my own eyes (yet) so I reserve my judgment. But why bringing Parla to this? Sorry don't get this. Is this some kind of a contest? Or what is it? Anyway
I wouldn't disagree with you about the prints but having been to both the faile and the parla show in the last 24 hours the faile show wins HANDS DOWN for me. The Parla show is good but the faile show is genre-transforming.
really well said Pez.
These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show. I haven't seen those prints with my own eyes (yet) so I reserve my judgment. But why bringing Parla to this? Sorry don't get this. Is this some kind of a contest? Or what is it? Anyway I wouldn't disagree with you about the prints but having been to both the faile and the parla show in the last 24 hours the faile show wins HANDS DOWN for me. The Parla show is good but the faile show is genre-transforming. really well said Pez.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by mose on Nov 7, 2008 22:00:45 GMT 1, These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show. I haven't seen those prints with my own eyes (yet) so I reserve my judgment. But why bringing Parla to this? Sorry don't get this. Is this some kind of a contest? Or what is it? Anyway
It's natural to compare because these are the two biggest show openings in quite some time, both happened in London and both are Brooklyn-based artists associated with the urban contemporary. Sorry that you didn't get it.
Me personally, I am going to be comparing the curent shows of Parla and Kaws as, well, they are both Brooklyn-based artists, both associated with contemporary urban art, and both are taking place in Manhattan and will be open this weekend.
Parla = xxxxxxxx Made my opinion clear on that long ago. Stopped going near Parla threads long ago (if you have nothing good to say), but when you come onto a faile thread saying he stepped up and they didnt, its very subjective and pointless. no?
Kind of subjective, well yes as it is opinion. But if we are going to call something genre-transforming, isn't it worth comparing and contrasting to what is currently occuring in that 'genre'? I really didn't think it was any more complex than that. You have two enormous openings within a month's time, by two of the leading artists(Faile being a group of coruse), isn't it a natural to compare/contrast in order to see how the 'genre' is progressing?
Sorry a small line caused this much angst for some. Next time I will start a new thread in order to discuss something like this. But I will say, no Parla involved, this Faile show looks weak to me. Size doesn't equal quality, quality = quality and I just don't see it here with the exception of 3-4 of the canvas works.
These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show. I haven't seen those prints with my own eyes (yet) so I reserve my judgment. But why bringing Parla to this? Sorry don't get this. Is this some kind of a contest? Or what is it? Anyway It's natural to compare because these are the two biggest show openings in quite some time, both happened in London and both are Brooklyn-based artists associated with the urban contemporary. Sorry that you didn't get it. Me personally, I am going to be comparing the curent shows of Parla and Kaws as, well, they are both Brooklyn-based artists, both associated with contemporary urban art, and both are taking place in Manhattan and will be open this weekend. Parla = xxxxxxxx Made my opinion clear on that long ago. Stopped going near Parla threads long ago (if you have nothing good to say), but when you come onto a faile thread saying he stepped up and they didnt, its very subjective and pointless. no? Kind of subjective, well yes as it is opinion. But if we are going to call something genre-transforming, isn't it worth comparing and contrasting to what is currently occuring in that 'genre'? I really didn't think it was any more complex than that. You have two enormous openings within a month's time, by two of the leading artists(Faile being a group of coruse), isn't it a natural to compare/contrast in order to see how the 'genre' is progressing? Sorry a small line caused this much angst for some. Next time I will start a new thread in order to discuss something like this. But I will say, no Parla involved, this Faile show looks weak to me. Size doesn't equal quality, quality = quality and I just don't see it here with the exception of 3-4 of the canvas works.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by baznyc on Nov 7, 2008 22:05:59 GMT 1, I haven't seen those prints with my own eyes (yet) so I reserve my judgment. But why bringing Parla to this? Sorry don't get this. Is this some kind of a contest? Or what is it? Anyway It's natural to compare because these are the two biggest show openings in quite some time, both happened in London and both are Brooklyn-based artists associated with the urban contemporary. Sorry that you didn't get it. Me personally, I am going to be comparing the curent shows of Parla and Kaws as, well, they are both Brooklyn-based artists, both associated with contemporary urban art, and both are taking place in Manhattan.
Kaws! To quote a very well known west coast American street artist is 'little more than a kids toy designer'
Shocking.
I haven't seen those prints with my own eyes (yet) so I reserve my judgment. But why bringing Parla to this? Sorry don't get this. Is this some kind of a contest? Or what is it? Anyway It's natural to compare because these are the two biggest show openings in quite some time, both happened in London and both are Brooklyn-based artists associated with the urban contemporary. Sorry that you didn't get it. Me personally, I am going to be comparing the curent shows of Parla and Kaws as, well, they are both Brooklyn-based artists, both associated with contemporary urban art, and both are taking place in Manhattan. Kaws! To quote a very well known west coast American street artist is 'little more than a kids toy designer' Shocking.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by motor on Nov 7, 2008 22:10:36 GMT 1, Fair enough. Being priviledged to see both of these exhibitions I would say that Parla show was great but can't really compare to the recent Faile show.
Fair enough. Being priviledged to see both of these exhibitions I would say that Parla show was great but can't really compare to the recent Faile show.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by mose on Nov 7, 2008 22:12:15 GMT 1, Kaws! To quote a very well known west coast American street artist is 'little more than a kids toy designer' Shocking.
And see, I'd place him with McGee and Fairey as the three American heavyweights to come out of the 1990's. McGee went museum, Fairey went graphic design, and KAWS went merchandising, but all three blazed the way for the current generation to actually make a living through their art. First ballot hall-of-famers.
Kaws! To quote a very well known west coast American street artist is 'little more than a kids toy designer' Shocking. And see, I'd place him with McGee and Fairey as the three American heavyweights to come out of the 1990's. McGee went museum, Fairey went graphic design, and KAWS went merchandising, but all three blazed the way for the current generation to actually make a living through their art. First ballot hall-of-famers.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by skanky on Nov 7, 2008 22:19:26 GMT 1, These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show.
For me its not a matter of choosing one or the other , having been to both exhibitions its quite clear that both artists are at the top of their game. You get the feeling for both it is effortless and a natural progression, the work in this Faile exhibition has so much quality and maturity its frightening.
These look rather boring and a bit lazy. Makes me long for releases like the legendary summer 2007 drop. Overall, rather let down by Faile's new show. Wasn't really a fan to begin with, save for a few images here and there, and this makes me even less of one. Looks especially poor compared to the step-up taken by Parla in his new show. For me its not a matter of choosing one or the other , having been to both exhibitions its quite clear that both artists are at the top of their game. You get the feeling for both it is effortless and a natural progression, the work in this Faile exhibition has so much quality and maturity its frightening.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by mcnuts on Nov 7, 2008 22:23:00 GMT 1, i think mose is right to compare the two shows and it's hard not to. from my perspective, comparing the parla show which I only saw for the first time today hung over from the faile show they are both great but i really see the whole spectacle and showmanship of the Faile show as turning point; being at the event, as pezlow implies in his post, you could tell that plebs like me - while we still can get in to the party - arent the target audience for buying art For me, the boxes were cool, i didnt like many of the palette pieces, and couldnt get my head around the functionality of the prayer wheels but the canvases were museum quality.
PS the same could be said about a couple of the large Parla pieces at Elms but, as a whole show particularly with Faile's rise/evolution and position in the scene I agree with Pez on this one.
i think mose is right to compare the two shows and it's hard not to. from my perspective, comparing the parla show which I only saw for the first time today hung over from the faile show they are both great but i really see the whole spectacle and showmanship of the Faile show as turning point; being at the event, as pezlow implies in his post, you could tell that plebs like me - while we still can get in to the party - arent the target audience for buying art For me, the boxes were cool, i didnt like many of the palette pieces, and couldnt get my head around the functionality of the prayer wheels but the canvases were museum quality.
PS the same could be said about a couple of the large Parla pieces at Elms but, as a whole show particularly with Faile's rise/evolution and position in the scene I agree with Pez on this one.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by hitme on Nov 7, 2008 22:27:19 GMT 1, I stand by Mose. Parla is leaps and bounds ahead of Faile.
I stand by Mose. Parla is leaps and bounds ahead of Faile.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by mose on Nov 7, 2008 22:31:15 GMT 1, For me its not a matter of choosing one or the other , having been to both exhibitions its quite clear that both artists are at the top of their game. You get the feeling for both it is effortless and a natural progression, the work in this Faile exhibition has so much quality and maturity its frightening.
Very cool to hear. The genre has come far in the past few years and I think the economic crisis will hasten the separation of the wheat from the chaff. Some will step up and away, others just away.
Now, if only we could get a bit more scholarship.
For me its not a matter of choosing one or the other , having been to both exhibitions its quite clear that both artists are at the top of their game. You get the feeling for both it is effortless and a natural progression, the work in this Faile exhibition has so much quality and maturity its frightening. Very cool to hear. The genre has come far in the past few years and I think the economic crisis will hasten the separation of the wheat from the chaff. Some will step up and away, others just away. Now, if only we could get a bit more scholarship.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by bobbymeachamjr on Nov 7, 2008 22:54:19 GMT 1, Fan of both Parla and Faile. However, the ambition of the latter is overwhelming. This creative ambition is defining and expanding this genre. As beautiful as some of Parlas work can be, thats all it is - a pretty picture. Like they say here in nyc, "oh shes just a model"...
Fan of both Parla and Faile. However, the ambition of the latter is overwhelming. This creative ambition is defining and expanding this genre. As beautiful as some of Parlas work can be, thats all it is - a pretty picture. Like they say here in nyc, "oh shes just a model"...
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by loucastel on Nov 7, 2008 23:04:32 GMT 1, I'm no big fan of Faile. but I think the big canvas's were superb, even though Faile and Parla have thier roots in the same genre, it, in my eyes is naive to compare the two, as in style and subject they are worlds apart, why someone should even try to compare the two is beyond me, "both brooklyn artists" so what!! just seems like yet another bit of hype for good ole boy Jose, surely it is purely a matter of taste, or perhaps a bit of highbrow, "my cats blacker than your cat"!!
I'm no big fan of Faile. but I think the big canvas's were superb, even though Faile and Parla have thier roots in the same genre, it, in my eyes is naive to compare the two, as in style and subject they are worlds apart, why someone should even try to compare the two is beyond me, "both brooklyn artists" so what!! just seems like yet another bit of hype for good ole boy Jose, surely it is purely a matter of taste, or perhaps a bit of highbrow, "my cats blacker than your cat"!!
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by pezlow on Nov 8, 2008 8:33:09 GMT 1, Perhaps I ought to explain my comment about the faile show being genre transforming, which was a comment made in response to the critical comments of mose.
One of the criticisms that is often made in the mainstream press about art galleries showing street art (and to a certain extent that criticism is valid) is that it doesn't work because it is almost impossible for the artist to translate the scale of their street work on to small canvasses.
Street artists in the past have painted canvasses for homes - for collectors to buy and take home and hang in their living room. Each show may have one or two large pieces but they were mostly intended for punters who live in large loft style apartments.
This faile show completely changes things. The canvasses are huge and there are many of them. I would describe these pieces as museum pieces. Or maybe destined for some huge pile such as Damien Hirst's gloucester pad or some Russian Oligarch's house. Faile have now, through their sheer ambition and dedication, moved their work on to a different level. The reason this show wasn't in an art gallery is simply because there is no commercial art gallery big enough to house this work.
By their move to creating museum sized (and in my opinion museum quality pieces) Faile are progressing and changing the genre. They are bringing the scale of the street inside.
As for parla I guess it is inevitable to compare the two shows and I can understand why it would be done. I do see parla as a very talented artist and there are two or three pieces at the show which I really liked (and a couple of pieces that I would put in the museum size/quality bracket as per faile). But the Parla show doesn't raise the bar like the Faile show does.
Perhaps I ought to explain my comment about the faile show being genre transforming, which was a comment made in response to the critical comments of mose.
One of the criticisms that is often made in the mainstream press about art galleries showing street art (and to a certain extent that criticism is valid) is that it doesn't work because it is almost impossible for the artist to translate the scale of their street work on to small canvasses.
Street artists in the past have painted canvasses for homes - for collectors to buy and take home and hang in their living room. Each show may have one or two large pieces but they were mostly intended for punters who live in large loft style apartments.
This faile show completely changes things. The canvasses are huge and there are many of them. I would describe these pieces as museum pieces. Or maybe destined for some huge pile such as Damien Hirst's gloucester pad or some Russian Oligarch's house. Faile have now, through their sheer ambition and dedication, moved their work on to a different level. The reason this show wasn't in an art gallery is simply because there is no commercial art gallery big enough to house this work.
By their move to creating museum sized (and in my opinion museum quality pieces) Faile are progressing and changing the genre. They are bringing the scale of the street inside.
As for parla I guess it is inevitable to compare the two shows and I can understand why it would be done. I do see parla as a very talented artist and there are two or three pieces at the show which I really liked (and a couple of pieces that I would put in the museum size/quality bracket as per faile). But the Parla show doesn't raise the bar like the Faile show does.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by Simococo on Nov 8, 2008 9:09:02 GMT 1, Kaws! To quote a very well known west coast American street artist is 'little more than a kids toy designer' Shocking. And see, I'd place him with McGee and Fairey as the three American heavyweights to come out of the 1990's. McGee went museum, Fairey went graphic design, and KAWS went merchandising, but all three blazed the way for the current generation to actually make a living through their art. First ballot hall-of-famers.
totally agree mose
Kaws! To quote a very well known west coast American street artist is 'little more than a kids toy designer' Shocking. And see, I'd place him with McGee and Fairey as the three American heavyweights to come out of the 1990's. McGee went museum, Fairey went graphic design, and KAWS went merchandising, but all three blazed the way for the current generation to actually make a living through their art. First ballot hall-of-famers. totally agree mose
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by fool4faile on Nov 8, 2008 9:25:46 GMT 1, very well written, pezlow! couldn't agree more!
very well written, pezlow! couldn't agree more!
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by snausages on Nov 8, 2008 17:44:27 GMT 1, I never thought that Faile's canvases were made to simply appease collectors. I felt more the opposite, like they would just throw up some paste-ups to appease street fans while concentrating on their studio work.
I also don't see the size issue quite the same way as Pezlow. In fact I tend to think the size of these canvases is over the top now. It's questionable that they're making such huge and expensive items in these times and hope that making them so large wasn't done solely to get museum interest—if there is any. It also comes at a time where there has been criticism in 'fine art' circles about all the 'size queens' making utterly massive paintings and photos and that the trend may be on the way out—to some degree. To me it can come across as a cheap way to add importance to a piece by making it so large that you have to pay attention—like it's screaming at you.
I like that Faile are trying new things, the prayer totem pole type things I think are a great idea and add a nice element to the installation. I don't think they're that important part of their work to warrant £20k though.
But overall, from the pics I've seen, the work, the installation and space doesn't look nearly as impressive as the last NYC show in 2007. In one pic I saw a huge canvas hanging on a brown brick wall, an open door about 2 feet to the left, just looked sloppy. At the NYC show, the hanging, layout, lighting, all seemed perfect.
And the new images, some of them are ok, but I'm not entirely digging it. I think it's stiff, just doesn't feel as natural as their earlier work. I thought the pieces that combined elements from old work with some of their new native american imagery looked especially odd.
But that said I still like Faile and would definitely check out the show if I were in London. But I'm not entirely convinced about it.
I never thought that Faile's canvases were made to simply appease collectors. I felt more the opposite, like they would just throw up some paste-ups to appease street fans while concentrating on their studio work.
I also don't see the size issue quite the same way as Pezlow. In fact I tend to think the size of these canvases is over the top now. It's questionable that they're making such huge and expensive items in these times and hope that making them so large wasn't done solely to get museum interest—if there is any. It also comes at a time where there has been criticism in 'fine art' circles about all the 'size queens' making utterly massive paintings and photos and that the trend may be on the way out—to some degree. To me it can come across as a cheap way to add importance to a piece by making it so large that you have to pay attention—like it's screaming at you.
I like that Faile are trying new things, the prayer totem pole type things I think are a great idea and add a nice element to the installation. I don't think they're that important part of their work to warrant £20k though.
But overall, from the pics I've seen, the work, the installation and space doesn't look nearly as impressive as the last NYC show in 2007. In one pic I saw a huge canvas hanging on a brown brick wall, an open door about 2 feet to the left, just looked sloppy. At the NYC show, the hanging, layout, lighting, all seemed perfect.
And the new images, some of them are ok, but I'm not entirely digging it. I think it's stiff, just doesn't feel as natural as their earlier work. I thought the pieces that combined elements from old work with some of their new native american imagery looked especially odd.
But that said I still like Faile and would definitely check out the show if I were in London. But I'm not entirely convinced about it.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by bobbymeachamjr on Nov 8, 2008 17:59:56 GMT 1, I never thought that Faile's canvases were made to simply appease collectors. I felt more the opposite, like they would just throw up some paste-ups to appease street fans while concentrating on their studio work. I also don't see the size issue quite the same way as Pezlow. In fact I tend to think the size of these canvases is over the top now. It's questionable that they're making such huge and expensive items in these times and hope that making them so large wasn't done solely to get museum interest—if there is any. It also comes at a time where there has been criticism in 'fine art' circles about all the 'size queens' making utterly massive paintings and photos and that the trend may be on the way out—to some degree. To me it can come across as a cheap way to add importance to a piece by making it so large that you have to pay attention—like it's screaming at you. I like that Faile are trying new things, the prayer totem pole type things I think are a great idea and add a nice element to the installation. I don't think they're that important part of their work to warrant £20k though. But overall, from the pics I've seen, the work, the installation and space doesn't look nearly as impressive as the last NYC show in 2007. In one pic I saw a huge canvas hanging on a brown brick wall, an open door about 2 feet to the left, just looked sloppy. At the NYC show, the hanging, layout, lighting, all seemed perfect. And the new images, some of them are ok, but I'm not entirely digging it. I think it's stiff, just doesn't feel as natural as their earlier work. I thought the pieces that combined elements from old work with some of their new native american imagery looked especially odd. But that said I still like Faile and would definitely check out the show if I were in London. But I'm not entirely convinced about it.
EXACTLY my sentiments. In particular the "size=wow?" w/regards to the times we live in. Looks out of touch. Thats where my prev post of "ambition" was about. What is their ambition? hmmm
I never thought that Faile's canvases were made to simply appease collectors. I felt more the opposite, like they would just throw up some paste-ups to appease street fans while concentrating on their studio work. I also don't see the size issue quite the same way as Pezlow. In fact I tend to think the size of these canvases is over the top now. It's questionable that they're making such huge and expensive items in these times and hope that making them so large wasn't done solely to get museum interest—if there is any. It also comes at a time where there has been criticism in 'fine art' circles about all the 'size queens' making utterly massive paintings and photos and that the trend may be on the way out—to some degree. To me it can come across as a cheap way to add importance to a piece by making it so large that you have to pay attention—like it's screaming at you. I like that Faile are trying new things, the prayer totem pole type things I think are a great idea and add a nice element to the installation. I don't think they're that important part of their work to warrant £20k though. But overall, from the pics I've seen, the work, the installation and space doesn't look nearly as impressive as the last NYC show in 2007. In one pic I saw a huge canvas hanging on a brown brick wall, an open door about 2 feet to the left, just looked sloppy. At the NYC show, the hanging, layout, lighting, all seemed perfect. And the new images, some of them are ok, but I'm not entirely digging it. I think it's stiff, just doesn't feel as natural as their earlier work. I thought the pieces that combined elements from old work with some of their new native american imagery looked especially odd. But that said I still like Faile and would definitely check out the show if I were in London. But I'm not entirely convinced about it. EXACTLY my sentiments. In particular the "size=wow?" w/regards to the times we live in. Looks out of touch. Thats where my prev post of "ambition" was about. What is their ambition? hmmm
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by weeble on Nov 8, 2008 20:35:40 GMT 1, I like those prints! I hope they are not too expensive!
Ah man I wish it was FairQ, really don't dig LAZ - reckon they're gonna be well expensive if they're releasing them.
I like those prints! I hope they are not too expensive! Ah man I wish it was FairQ, really don't dig LAZ - reckon they're gonna be well expensive if they're releasing them.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by Prescription Art on Nov 8, 2008 21:13:04 GMT 1, I like those prints! I hope they are not too expensive! Ah man I wish it was FairQ, really don't dig LAZ - reckon they're gonna be well expensive if they're releasing them.
Unlike the last Faile release?
I like those prints! I hope they are not too expensive! Ah man I wish it was FairQ, really don't dig LAZ - reckon they're gonna be well expensive if they're releasing them. Unlike the last Faile release?
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by weeble on Nov 8, 2008 21:28:46 GMT 1, Yeah they were pricey, I just have a feeling this means LAZ will pump em out even pricier especially after this new show. Maybe not. At a guess, what do you reckon the average price will be? I was thinking maybe around £2k.
Yeah they were pricey, I just have a feeling this means LAZ will pump em out even pricier especially after this new show. Maybe not. At a guess, what do you reckon the average price will be? I was thinking maybe around £2k.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by Simococo on Nov 8, 2008 21:36:36 GMT 1, I think higher
I think higher
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by wiz on Nov 8, 2008 21:39:44 GMT 1,
How much higher? higher than a king?
How much higher? higher than a king?
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by onemandown72 on Nov 8, 2008 22:00:35 GMT 1, I was told yesterday, whilst at the show, that Faile where going to sell them via lottery as before.
I was told yesterday, whilst at the show, that Faile where going to sell them via lottery as before.
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New Faile Prints are showing on their site., by wiz on Nov 8, 2008 22:03:17 GMT 1, Did that information come from an extremely reliable source? .
Did that information come from an extremely reliable source? .
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