dkla
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Damien • Opium, by dkla on Jun 23, 2009 1:32:02 GMT 1, I agree this is a great print. But boy the new spot prints are such a better deal imo - much larger and much smaller edition sizes. For less money. I've now seen mine (gold leaf) the silver and the gold glitter - all beautiful. And they're not lambda prints.
I agree this is a great print. But boy the new spot prints are such a better deal imo - much larger and much smaller edition sizes. For less money. I've now seen mine (gold leaf) the silver and the gold glitter - all beautiful. And they're not lambda prints.
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Damien • Opium, by graeme501 on Jun 23, 2009 2:10:08 GMT 1, i agree that the newer spot prints provide better value, for the same price you could get the gold glitter, which is much larger and basically an edition of 45, not 150, but the added glitter background is not for everyone, and this is a classic spot print and the cheapest one with a white background your going to get
i agree that the newer spot prints provide better value, for the same price you could get the gold glitter, which is much larger and basically an edition of 45, not 150, but the added glitter background is not for everyone, and this is a classic spot print and the cheapest one with a white background your going to get
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Damien • Opium, by wizzy on Jun 23, 2009 7:21:01 GMT 1, Better Value? i dont see what that has to do with it at all as they are different prints arent they?, imo this one is a classic Hirst and the new ones are just gawdy.
Better Value? i dont see what that has to do with it at all as they are different prints arent they?, imo this one is a classic Hirst and the new ones are just gawdy.
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weeble
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Damien • Opium, by weeble on Jun 23, 2009 7:30:19 GMT 1, Would rather this over the new ones any day of the week. Super cool, god luck with the sale. Wish I could take it off your hands 
Would rather this over the new ones any day of the week. Super cool, god luck with the sale. Wish I could take it off your hands |
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Damien • Opium, by graeme501 on Jun 23, 2009 8:12:59 GMT 1, Better Value? i dont see what that has to do with it at all as they are different prints arent they?, imo this one is a classic Hirst and the new ones are just gawdy.
i think when your dropping thousands of pounds on prints, then value for money comes into it - things like size, edition, process compared to similar prints at similar prices has to be taken into consideration, especially with hirst
Better Value? i dont see what that has to do with it at all as they are different prints arent they?, imo this one is a classic Hirst and the new ones are just gawdy. i think when your dropping thousands of pounds on prints, then value for money comes into it - things like size, edition, process compared to similar prints at similar prices has to be taken into consideration, especially with hirst |
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Damien • Opium, by wizzy on Jun 23, 2009 8:21:02 GMT 1, I think i see what you mean Graeme but i disagree, i still see them as being two different prints with this (Opium) one being the better one over the newer ones to my eyes, if i were thinking of spending thousands on a print then i would pick the one i liked the best.
I think i see what you mean Graeme but i disagree, i still see them as being two different prints with this (Opium) one being the better one over the newer ones to my eyes, if i were thinking of spending thousands on a print then i would pick the one i liked the best.
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hlarmy
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Damien • Opium, by hlarmy on Jun 23, 2009 8:26:34 GMT 1, Better Value? i dont see what that has to do with it at all as they are different prints arent they?, imo this one is a classic Hirst and the new ones are just gawdy. i think when your dropping thousands of pounds on prints, then value for money comes into it - things like size, edition, process compared to similar prints at similar prices has to be taken into consideration, especially with hirst
Can I agree with both of you 
Better Value? i dont see what that has to do with it at all as they are different prints arent they?, imo this one is a classic Hirst and the new ones are just gawdy. i think when your dropping thousands of pounds on prints, then value for money comes into it - things like size, edition, process compared to similar prints at similar prices has to be taken into consideration, especially with hirst Can I agree with both of you |
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Damien • Opium, by Guest on Jun 23, 2009 9:27:03 GMT 1, Agree with wiz, These are so much nicer than the newer prints, buy what you prefer on your wall.
Agree with wiz, These are so much nicer than the newer prints, buy what you prefer on your wall.
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Damien • Opium, by They call me Stephen on Jun 23, 2009 10:19:10 GMT 1, agree with wiz...don't like the newer spot prints at all...regardless of edition size/print methods etc they look cheap and tacky as opposed to the spots on white backgrounds which are classic hirst.
guess that doesn't matter as i can't afford either. good luck with the sale winter
agree with wiz...don't like the newer spot prints at all...regardless of edition size/print methods etc they look cheap and tacky as opposed to the spots on white backgrounds which are classic hirst.
guess that doesn't matter as i can't afford either. good luck with the sale winter
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Damien • Opium, by graeme501 on Jun 23, 2009 11:39:50 GMT 1, agree with wiz...don't like the newer spot prints at all...regardless of edition size/print methods etc they look cheap and tacky as opposed to the spots on white backgrounds which are classic hirst. guess that doesn't matter as i can't afford either. good luck with the sale winter
i think the fact the new ones look cheap and tacky make them a contender for classic hirst
agree with wiz...don't like the newer spot prints at all...regardless of edition size/print methods etc they look cheap and tacky as opposed to the spots on white backgrounds which are classic hirst. guess that doesn't matter as i can't afford either. good luck with the sale winter i think the fact the new ones look cheap and tacky make them a contender for classic hirst |
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Michael Jacob
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Damien • Opium, by Michael Jacob on Jun 23, 2009 13:42:05 GMT 1, while we always say buy what you like, Id take the Opium any day over the new ones. Opium, LSD and his other ones were where this idea came from. The new one look great, are priced great, but are nothing more than a rehash of his earlier work. Doesnt Hirst have enough money? Why is he redoing shit? It like Robert Indiana. His LOVE print is great, but he's been pumping it out for decades. Put it to rest.
Having said all that, good luck with your sale, someone will be getting a good deal. Wish it were me!
while we always say buy what you like, Id take the Opium any day over the new ones. Opium, LSD and his other ones were where this idea came from. The new one look great, are priced great, but are nothing more than a rehash of his earlier work. Doesnt Hirst have enough money? Why is he redoing shit? It like Robert Indiana. His LOVE print is great, but he's been pumping it out for decades. Put it to rest.
Having said all that, good luck with your sale, someone will be getting a good deal. Wish it were me!
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Damien • Opium, by wizzy on Jun 23, 2009 22:35:39 GMT 1, Bumpium.
Bumpium.
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Damien • Opium, by snausages on Jun 23, 2009 22:59:19 GMT 1, I think i see what you mean Graeme but i disagree, i still see them as being two different prints with this (Opium) one being the better one over the newer ones to my eyes, if i were thinking of spending thousands on a print then i would pick the one i liked the best.
If I'm allowed to chime in? Well then I agree with old wizzy here. The eyestorm prints are the original dot prints and the most iconic in my eyes. The glitter prints just seem tacky and rehashed and lacks the vigor and allure of the original that caught the art world by storm and off guard. I think value is something to consider but going for the more iconic piece usually pays off in the long run imo.
I think i see what you mean Graeme but i disagree, i still see them as being two different prints with this (Opium) one being the better one over the newer ones to my eyes, if i were thinking of spending thousands on a print then i would pick the one i liked the best. If I'm allowed to chime in? Well then I agree with old wizzy here. The eyestorm prints are the original dot prints and the most iconic in my eyes. The glitter prints just seem tacky and rehashed and lacks the vigor and allure of the original that caught the art world by storm and off guard. I think value is something to consider but going for the more iconic piece usually pays off in the long run imo. |
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low3
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Damien • Opium, by low3 on Jun 24, 2009 0:39:08 GMT 1, Originals are best IMO
I don't mean originals, i mean prints, no: original prints, i mean prints of the original series, i mean not an after thought in a different colourway..... oh forget it.
Good luck with the sale!
Originals are best IMO
I don't mean originals, i mean prints, no: original prints, i mean prints of the original series, i mean not an after thought in a different colourway..... oh forget it.
Good luck with the sale!
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Damien • Opium, by manty on Jun 24, 2009 3:16:13 GMT 1, WTF do you mean? You're just dotty man
Originals are best IMO I don't mean originals, i mean prints, no: original prints, i mean prints of the original series, i mean not an after thought in a different colourway..... oh forget it. Good luck with the sale!
WTF do you mean? You're just dotty man Originals are best IMO I don't mean originals, i mean prints, no: original prints, i mean prints of the original series, i mean not an after thought in a different colourway..... oh forget it. Good luck with the sale! |
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Damien • Opium, by Guest on Jun 24, 2009 10:10:55 GMT 1, P.M
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spanksy
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Damien • Opium, by spanksy on Jun 24, 2009 10:41:55 GMT 1, I WANT THIS PRINT SO MUCH. 3.5k is out of my price range tho. GREAT PIECE please someone buy it so the temptation is no longer there for me!!
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I WANT THIS PRINT SO MUCH. 3.5k is out of my price range tho. GREAT PIECE please someone buy it so the temptation is no longer there for me!!
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Winter
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Damien • Opium, by Winter on Jun 25, 2009 20:06:24 GMT 1, Lost track of who is interested in this. If anyone wants this for £3.5k let me know otherwise it goes to Eyestorm.
Lost track of who is interested in this. If anyone wants this for £3.5k let me know otherwise it goes to Eyestorm.
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Damien • Opium, by wizzy on Jun 26, 2009 9:51:13 GMT 1, Come along someone, buy this from Winter or old Eyepatch gets it!.
Come along someone, buy this from Winter or old Eyepatch gets it!.
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Damien • Opium, by cashman on Jun 26, 2009 13:07:41 GMT 1, wanted this at 3.5 but priced out
wanted this at 3.5 but priced out
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Damien • Opium, by wizzy on Jun 26, 2009 13:17:19 GMT 1, Did it go for more than that then?.
Did it go for more than that then?.
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klyde
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Damien • Opium, by klyde on Jun 26, 2009 13:49:06 GMT 1, Better Value? i dont see what that has to do with it at all as they are different prints arent they?, imo this one is a classic Hirst and the new ones are just gawdy.
True.
Better Value? i dont see what that has to do with it at all as they are different prints arent they?, imo this one is a classic Hirst and the new ones are just gawdy. True. |
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Damien • Opium, by poppy on Jun 26, 2009 14:51:51 GMT 1, personally i dont get it yes its a hirst but it week and been done just as well by others.
The best thing this image has ever done is to create great ideas for other artist, on how to rip it off or make fun of it .
I would much rather a bit of art from a nice guy not a gonklike hirst. And to top it of i hate the way these guys dont even make there own art like that t**t on arrested motion what a lazy git doing it on computer for other to copy.
personally i dont get it yes its a hirst but it week and been done just as well by others.
The best thing this image has ever done is to create great ideas for other artist, on how to rip it off or make fun of it .
I would much rather a bit of art from a nice guy not a gonklike hirst. And to top it of i hate the way these guys dont even make there own art like that t**t on arrested motion what a lazy git doing it on computer for other to copy.
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Damien • Opium, by afroken on Jun 26, 2009 19:20:21 GMT 1, I think i see what you mean Graeme but i disagree, i still see them as being two different prints with this (Opium) one being the better one over the newer ones to my eyes, if i were thinking of spending thousands on a print then i would pick the one i liked the best. If I'm allowed to chime in? Well then I agree with old wizzy here. The eyestorm prints are the original dot prints and the most iconic in my eyes. The glitter prints just seem tacky and rehashed and lacks the vigor and allure of the original that caught the art world by storm and off guard. I think value is something to consider but going for the more iconic piece usually pays off in the long run imo.
But they're just photographic prints in an edition of 500!
You obviously haven't seen one of the Paragon Press spot etchings. They are in a different league to the Eyestorm prints.
I think i see what you mean Graeme but i disagree, i still see them as being two different prints with this (Opium) one being the better one over the newer ones to my eyes, if i were thinking of spending thousands on a print then i would pick the one i liked the best. If I'm allowed to chime in? Well then I agree with old wizzy here. The eyestorm prints are the original dot prints and the most iconic in my eyes. The glitter prints just seem tacky and rehashed and lacks the vigor and allure of the original that caught the art world by storm and off guard. I think value is something to consider but going for the more iconic piece usually pays off in the long run imo. But they're just photographic prints in an edition of 500! You obviously haven't seen one of the Paragon Press spot etchings. They are in a different league to the Eyestorm prints. |
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Damien • Opium, by jam on Jun 26, 2009 19:29:23 GMT 1, If I'm allowed to chime in? Well then I agree with old wizzy here. The eyestorm prints are the original dot prints and the most iconic in my eyes. The glitter prints just seem tacky and rehashed and lacks the vigor and allure of the original that caught the art world by storm and off guard. I think value is something to consider but going for the more iconic piece usually pays off in the long run imo. But they're just photographic prints in an edition of 500! You obviously haven't seen one of the Paragon Press spot etchings. They are in a different league to the Eyestorm prints.
The Paragon spot etchings are tops, and I own a few so I'm not making the statement without being able to judge them side by side with the Eyestorm pieces. I don't much like the gold, glitter, bronze spots from Other Criteria though. While the quality of the prints themselves is solid, the look of the background isn't as appealing as the white background.
If I'm allowed to chime in? Well then I agree with old wizzy here. The eyestorm prints are the original dot prints and the most iconic in my eyes. The glitter prints just seem tacky and rehashed and lacks the vigor and allure of the original that caught the art world by storm and off guard. I think value is something to consider but going for the more iconic piece usually pays off in the long run imo. But they're just photographic prints in an edition of 500! You obviously haven't seen one of the Paragon Press spot etchings. They are in a different league to the Eyestorm prints. The Paragon spot etchings are tops, and I own a few so I'm not making the statement without being able to judge them side by side with the Eyestorm pieces. I don't much like the gold, glitter, bronze spots from Other Criteria though. While the quality of the prints themselves is solid, the look of the background isn't as appealing as the white background. |
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Damien • Opium, by wizzy on Jul 9, 2009 18:49:01 GMT 1, I know this has been asked before but sorry i have forgotten the answer, is Eyestorm owned by the same people as Opus Art making it in effect a different branch of the same business? or are they totally separate businesses and nothing to do with one another?.
I know this has been asked before but sorry i have forgotten the answer, is Eyestorm owned by the same people as Opus Art making it in effect a different branch of the same business? or are they totally separate businesses and nothing to do with one another?.
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Damien • Opium, by snausages on Jul 9, 2009 23:28:46 GMT 1, If I'm allowed to chime in? Well then I agree with old wizzy here. The eyestorm prints are the original dot prints and the most iconic in my eyes. The glitter prints just seem tacky and rehashed and lacks the vigor and allure of the original that caught the art world by storm and off guard. I think value is something to consider but going for the more iconic piece usually pays off in the long run imo. But they're just photographic prints in an edition of 500! You obviously haven't seen one of the Paragon Press spot etchings. They are in a different league to the Eyestorm prints.
Oh, I've seen em, nice but they are even more expensive. Call me sentimental but I still think the Eyestorm prints are tops, and C-prints are great quality, but that's a close call. As for Eyestorm vs. Other Criteria glitter bronze prints, it's Eyestorm by a mile.
If I'm allowed to chime in? Well then I agree with old wizzy here. The eyestorm prints are the original dot prints and the most iconic in my eyes. The glitter prints just seem tacky and rehashed and lacks the vigor and allure of the original that caught the art world by storm and off guard. I think value is something to consider but going for the more iconic piece usually pays off in the long run imo. But they're just photographic prints in an edition of 500! You obviously haven't seen one of the Paragon Press spot etchings. They are in a different league to the Eyestorm prints. Oh, I've seen em, nice but they are even more expensive. Call me sentimental but I still think the Eyestorm prints are tops, and C-prints are great quality, but that's a close call. As for Eyestorm vs. Other Criteria glitter bronze prints, it's Eyestorm by a mile. |
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Damien • Opium, by afroken on Jul 10, 2009 0:27:11 GMT 1, I know this has been asked before but sorry i have forgotten the answer, is Eyestorm owned by the same people as Opus Art making it in effect a different branch of the same business? or are they totally separate businesses and nothing to do with one another?.
Eyestorm went bust. Opus Art was their Newcastle operation but I believe the management bought the remains and relaunched as Opus, as did the London management but they kept the name. So they are completely separate entities but both ended up with Eyestorm stock and initially there wasn't much to differentiate them apart from Opus charging twice as much as the same stuff as Eyestorm. Of course they've both moved in slightly different directions and Eyestorm now seems to be the one that charges silly prices. I think that's it in a nutshell.
Oh and before all that Britart.com went bust and Eyestorm bought them. Until that point Eyestorm specialised in photographic prints and had the rather genius idea of getting artists like Hirst to use photographic printing techniques to create affordable editions. Many of today's Eyestorm artists were Britart artists originally.
I know this has been asked before but sorry i have forgotten the answer, is Eyestorm owned by the same people as Opus Art making it in effect a different branch of the same business? or are they totally separate businesses and nothing to do with one another?. Eyestorm went bust. Opus Art was their Newcastle operation but I believe the management bought the remains and relaunched as Opus, as did the London management but they kept the name. So they are completely separate entities but both ended up with Eyestorm stock and initially there wasn't much to differentiate them apart from Opus charging twice as much as the same stuff as Eyestorm. Of course they've both moved in slightly different directions and Eyestorm now seems to be the one that charges silly prices. I think that's it in a nutshell. Oh and before all that Britart.com went bust and Eyestorm bought them. Until that point Eyestorm specialised in photographic prints and had the rather genius idea of getting artists like Hirst to use photographic printing techniques to create affordable editions. Many of today's Eyestorm artists were Britart artists originally. |
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afroken
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Damien • Opium, by afroken on Jul 10, 2009 0:41:34 GMT 1, But they're just photographic prints in an edition of 500! You obviously haven't seen one of the Paragon Press spot etchings. They are in a different league to the Eyestorm prints. Oh, I've seen em, nice but they are even more expensive. Call me sentimental but I still think the Eyestorm prints are tops, and C-prints are great quality, but that's a close call. As for Eyestorm vs. Other Criteria glitter bronze prints, it's Eyestorm by a mile.
You can pick up a Paragon print for less than an Eyestorm one. Contact Charles at Paragon direct. He's also very friendly and will spend hours showing you all the prints at his HQ if you're in London.
They are etchings and each spot is a separate plate. They are incredibly complex to make and have a unique quality that you can't compare any of the others to.
EDIT: although not cheaper then the one being offered here or anywhere near this price. I'm talking gallery prices. This is a good deal.
But they're just photographic prints in an edition of 500! You obviously haven't seen one of the Paragon Press spot etchings. They are in a different league to the Eyestorm prints. Oh, I've seen em, nice but they are even more expensive. Call me sentimental but I still think the Eyestorm prints are tops, and C-prints are great quality, but that's a close call. As for Eyestorm vs. Other Criteria glitter bronze prints, it's Eyestorm by a mile. You can pick up a Paragon print for less than an Eyestorm one. Contact Charles at Paragon direct. He's also very friendly and will spend hours showing you all the prints at his HQ if you're in London. They are etchings and each spot is a separate plate. They are incredibly complex to make and have a unique quality that you can't compare any of the others to. EDIT: although not cheaper then the one being offered here or anywhere near this price. I'm talking gallery prices. This is a good deal. |
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Damien • Opium, by wizzy on Jul 10, 2009 0:54:58 GMT 1, I emailed Paragon a while back Afroken to ask re. Hirsty Spots (as i am selling some works so thought i might buy one) and they got back to me saying they only Oleoylsarcosine had one left at 15k i think it was, would there be more there do you think?.
I emailed Paragon a while back Afroken to ask re. Hirsty Spots (as i am selling some works so thought i might buy one) and they got back to me saying they only Oleoylsarcosine had one left at 15k i think it was, would there be more there do you think?.
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