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Source of prices, by chiefhk on Aug 6, 2009 9:01:58 GMT 1, Hi Guys,
Many apologies if this question has been asked before but what are the good sources of information or databases on current market prices? I hear about how some artists have fallen in prices compared to previously etc. etc. and would like to be able to make an informed decision in my investments.
Specifically, the current market prices on Micallef's Dirty Deluxe and 21st Century Love for example.
Thanks, very much appreciated!
Hi Guys,
Many apologies if this question has been asked before but what are the good sources of information or databases on current market prices? I hear about how some artists have fallen in prices compared to previously etc. etc. and would like to be able to make an informed decision in my investments.
Specifically, the current market prices on Micallef's Dirty Deluxe and 21st Century Love for example.
Thanks, very much appreciated!
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Source of prices, by richy00 on Aug 6, 2009 9:25:36 GMT 1, look on ebay under previous listings. or on expresso beans..
if your looking for investments however i would take alot at other artists rather than mic as.... and i know some people will bed to disagree.... but this ship is going down.. and only banksy will survive.
look on ebay under previous listings. or on expresso beans..
if your looking for investments however i would take alot at other artists rather than mic as.... and i know some people will bed to disagree.... but this ship is going down.. and only banksy will survive.
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Source of prices, by kitkit on Aug 6, 2009 9:43:23 GMT 1, i think expresso beans is probably the best bet
i think expresso beans is probably the best bet
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Source of prices, by chiefhk on Aug 6, 2009 10:19:09 GMT 1, look on ebay under previous listings. or on expresso beans.. if your looking for investments however i would take alot at other artists rather than mic as.... and i know some people will bed to disagree.... but this ship is going down.. and only banksy will survive.
Thanks! So Banksy is the only artist worth getting now? By "ship" do you mean urban art or the Micallef "Ship"?
look on ebay under previous listings. or on expresso beans.. if your looking for investments however i would take alot at other artists rather than mic as.... and i know some people will bed to disagree.... but this ship is going down.. and only banksy will survive. Thanks! So Banksy is the only artist worth getting now? By "ship" do you mean urban art or the Micallef "Ship"? |
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Source of prices, by richy00 on Aug 6, 2009 10:21:45 GMT 1, i mean urban art in general, a recession is not a good time for a fledgling art movement. I personally only believe banksy will survive, but this is only my opinion, there will be others.
i mean urban art in general, a recession is not a good time for a fledgling art movement. I personally only believe banksy will survive, but this is only my opinion, there will be others.
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Source of prices, by chiefhk on Aug 6, 2009 10:21:49 GMT 1, i think expresso beans is probably the best bet
Thanks!
i think expresso beans is probably the best bet Thanks! |
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Source of prices, by chiefhk on Aug 6, 2009 10:27:49 GMT 1, i mean urban art in general, a recession is not a good time for a fledgling art movement. I personally only believe banksy will survive, but this is only my opinion, there will be others.
Thanks, it seems that many are of the view that prices are depressed right now (with the exception of a couple of artists I suppose) including Banksy, so if you have the means it's a "good time to buy"?
It seems pretty drastic for an entire movement to just suddenly be irrelevant, perhaps this will be a good time to weed out the bad artists? The survivors are the real-deals
i mean urban art in general, a recession is not a good time for a fledgling art movement. I personally only believe banksy will survive, but this is only my opinion, there will be others. Thanks, it seems that many are of the view that prices are depressed right now (with the exception of a couple of artists I suppose) including Banksy, so if you have the means it's a "good time to buy"? It seems pretty drastic for an entire movement to just suddenly be irrelevant, perhaps this will be a good time to weed out the bad artists? The survivors are the real-deals |
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Source of prices, by chiefhk on Aug 6, 2009 10:28:48 GMT 1, That being said, i'm by no means any expert whatsoever and have waaayyy too much to learn
That being said, i'm by no means any expert whatsoever and have waaayyy too much to learn
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Source of prices, by richy00 on Aug 6, 2009 10:31:30 GMT 1, best bit of advice = buy what you like, so when it loses money you still have a pretty picture
best bit of advice = buy what you like, so when it loses money you still have a pretty picture
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Source of prices, by chiefhk on Aug 6, 2009 10:37:34 GMT 1, Thanks, let's hope for all our sakes that this isn't sinking. I think many on this forum are quite invested in urban art!
Speaking for myself and of my lowly status, I honestly do not need to spend a few thousand pounds on a pretty picture!
Thanks, let's hope for all our sakes that this isn't sinking. I think many on this forum are quite invested in urban art!
Speaking for myself and of my lowly status, I honestly do not need to spend a few thousand pounds on a pretty picture!
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Source of prices, by Octopus UK on Aug 6, 2009 21:41:00 GMT 1, Put the money in the bank then.
Put the money in the bank then.
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Source of prices, by linkd95 on Aug 6, 2009 21:46:20 GMT 1, look on ebay under previous listings. or on expresso beans.. if your looking for investments however i would take alot at other artists rather than mic as.... and i know some people will bed to disagree.... but this ship is going down.. and only banksy will survive.  )
look on ebay under previous listings. or on expresso beans.. if your looking for investments however i would take alot at other artists rather than mic as.... and i know some people will bed to disagree.... but this ship is going down.. and only banksy will survive. you mean only Banksy, KAWS, Jose Parla, Josh Keyes, Takashi Murakami and MANY MANY MANY other artists names who have not been mentioned will survive, there are people who dont like banksy and instead rather pay $$$$ for a Andrew Mcattee e.t.c, i think 99% of artists r going to survive its just that in this climate its the blue-chip artists that are surviving (for now anyway ) |
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Source of prices, by Cocteau 101 on Aug 6, 2009 23:16:03 GMT 1, Thanks, let's hope for all our sakes that this isn't sinking. I think many on this forum are quite invested in urban art! Speaking for myself and of my lowly status, I honestly do not need to spend a few thousand pounds on a pretty picture!
Buy some stocks then and leave the "scene" for the people who enjoy it rather than "invest" in it.
Thanks, let's hope for all our sakes that this isn't sinking. I think many on this forum are quite invested in urban art! Speaking for myself and of my lowly status, I honestly do not need to spend a few thousand pounds on a pretty picture! Buy some stocks then and leave the "scene" for the people who enjoy it rather than "invest" in it. |
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Source of prices, by bullet on Aug 6, 2009 23:19:38 GMT 1, KAWS?
Disney on acid.
KAWS?
Disney on acid.
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Source of prices, by monkeyballs on Aug 6, 2009 23:19:47 GMT 1, When all the Mics are worthless, I'll buy them all off of everyone and wallpaper my house with them. Can't see Micallef going away any time soon, far too established.
When all the Mics are worthless, I'll buy them all off of everyone and wallpaper my house with them. Can't see Micallef going away any time soon, far too established.
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Source of prices, by cashman on Aug 7, 2009 3:54:32 GMT 1,
Which is another reason to like the work
Which is another reason to like the work |
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Source of prices, by pork on Aug 7, 2009 8:26:01 GMT 1, look on ebay under previous listings. or on expresso beans.. if your looking for investments however i would take alot at other artists rather than mic as.... and i know some people will bed to disagree.... but this ship is going down.. and only banksy will survive.
Bollocks...
look on ebay under previous listings. or on expresso beans.. if your looking for investments however i would take alot at other artists rather than mic as.... and i know some people will bed to disagree.... but this ship is going down.. and only banksy will survive. Bollocks... |
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Source of prices, by richy00 on Aug 7, 2009 9:33:55 GMT 1, look on ebay under previous listings. or on expresso beans.. if your looking for investments however i would take alot at other artists rather than mic as.... and i know some people will bed to disagree.... but this ship is going down.. and only banksy will survive. you mean only Banksy, KAWS, Jose Parla, Josh Keyes, Takashi Murakami and MANY MANY MANY other artists names who have not been mentioned will survive, there are people who dont like banksy and instead rather pay $$$$ for a Andrew Mcattee e.t.c, i think 99% of artists r going to survive its just that in this climate its the blue-chip artists that are surviving (for now anyway )
Your only saying that as you like them, or are invested in them... 99.9% of the world has never heard of them. Out of every movement there is always one leader and a few taggers on.. Banksy is the leader.
(side note: parla is amazing yes but as it shows badly managed, his first auction flopped and would have badly hit prices, why buy something for 200k when its then worth 75? )
look on ebay under previous listings. or on expresso beans.. if your looking for investments however i would take alot at other artists rather than mic as.... and i know some people will bed to disagree.... but this ship is going down.. and only banksy will survive. you mean only Banksy, KAWS, Jose Parla, Josh Keyes, Takashi Murakami and MANY MANY MANY other artists names who have not been mentioned will survive, there are people who dont like banksy and instead rather pay $$$$ for a Andrew Mcattee e.t.c, i think 99% of artists r going to survive its just that in this climate its the blue-chip artists that are surviving (for now anyway ) Your only saying that as you like them, or are invested in them... 99.9% of the world has never heard of them. Out of every movement there is always one leader and a few taggers on.. Banksy is the leader. (side note: parla is amazing yes but as it shows badly managed, his first auction flopped and would have badly hit prices, why buy something for 200k when its then worth 75? ) |
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Source of prices, by wizzy on Aug 7, 2009 9:40:52 GMT 1, You got the "Movin house blues" Richy?.
You got the "Movin house blues" Richy?.
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Source of prices, by richy00 on Aug 7, 2009 9:48:41 GMT 1, kinda, there is NOTHING to do here.. taunton is a pile of shite, green fields and bugger all else.. i cant really leave the house as my bro, who is 17 and weighs a tonne cant walk after his operation so has to be carried about, sofa to kitchen to loo etc.. so boring
take me back to london!!
oh and regards to prices... who knows, i talk shit 99% of the time, buy what you like, most likely youll lose money but it will be fun.
kinda, there is NOTHING to do here.. taunton is a pile of shite, green fields and bugger all else.. i cant really leave the house as my bro, who is 17 and weighs a tonne cant walk after his operation so has to be carried about, sofa to kitchen to loo etc.. so boring
take me back to london!!
oh and regards to prices... who knows, i talk shit 99% of the time, buy what you like, most likely youll lose money but it will be fun.
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Source of prices, by wizzy on Aug 7, 2009 10:05:39 GMT 1, Hahaha you have grass n twig fever!, know what you mean though Richy, today i am mowing two lawns and having a wildlife field cut, trees pruned (Ongoing thing) and man supposed to be arriving anytime with his JCB to start a frog pit / wildlife pond, my new old rescue Staffie Betty may arrive to live with my two resident evil rescue Staffies and also a friend is sectioning the barn to accomodate the Horsey, i would sooner be scoffing on a Bagel in Brick Lane though.
Hahaha you have grass n twig fever!, know what you mean though Richy, today i am mowing two lawns and having a wildlife field cut, trees pruned (Ongoing thing) and man supposed to be arriving anytime with his JCB to start a frog pit / wildlife pond, my new old rescue Staffie Betty may arrive to live with my two resident evil rescue Staffies and also a friend is sectioning the barn to accomodate the Horsey, i would sooner be scoffing on a Bagel in Brick Lane though.
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Source of prices, by richy00 on Aug 7, 2009 10:27:04 GMT 1, indeed. it sounds rather like my day, the new cutter belt has arrived for one of the tractors so im mowing lawns today, then have to go to the planning permission people and try and change the plans for our meeting house so the builders can start asap..
I shall be at my flat on brick lane from the 14th to the 28th so your very welcome for a drink. Heneage street. 
indeed. it sounds rather like my day, the new cutter belt has arrived for one of the tractors so im mowing lawns today, then have to go to the planning permission people and try and change the plans for our meeting house so the builders can start asap.. I shall be at my flat on brick lane from the 14th to the 28th so your very welcome for a drink. Heneage street. |
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Source of prices, by mace on Aug 8, 2009 0:37:16 GMT 1, Thanks, let's hope for all our sakes that this isn't sinking. I think many on this forum are quite invested in urban art! Speaking for myself and of my lowly status, I honestly do not need to spend a few thousand pounds on a pretty picture!
Go get a Brainwash print, superb investment and outstanding art !
*What ? The guy has no heart for art anyways*
Thanks, let's hope for all our sakes that this isn't sinking. I think many on this forum are quite invested in urban art! Speaking for myself and of my lowly status, I honestly do not need to spend a few thousand pounds on a pretty picture! Go get a Brainwash print, superb investment and outstanding art ! *What ? The guy has no heart for art anyways* |
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Source of prices, by mose on Aug 9, 2009 18:45:36 GMT 1, (side note: parla is amazing yes but as it shows badly managed, his first auction flopped and would have badly hit prices, why buy something for 200k when its then worth 75? )
I'm sorry, how did Parla's first auction flop? I remember an older, less-detailed piece in less-than-perfect condition selling for 4x estimate. $50k on your first time out can't be considered a flop, can it?
(side note: parla is amazing yes but as it shows badly managed, his first auction flopped and would have badly hit prices, why buy something for 200k when its then worth 75? ) I'm sorry, how did Parla's first auction flop? I remember an older, less-detailed piece in less-than-perfect condition selling for 4x estimate. $50k on your first time out can't be considered a flop, can it? |
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Source of prices, by richy00 on Aug 9, 2009 19:14:59 GMT 1, because his agent is trying to sell new works of the same size or smaller for 4 times as much??
you wouldn't see an early less detailed Banksy canvas like heavy weaponry going for 4 times less than a newer Banksy canvas.. same with prints too. Parla is a great artist but the Market for him is screwed. I was surprised someone connected to him didn't buy it for a record price to generate a bit of press and reasure previous buyers that their art is still worth the paper it's printed on. not 4 times less....
because his agent is trying to sell new works of the same size or smaller for 4 times as much??
you wouldn't see an early less detailed Banksy canvas like heavy weaponry going for 4 times less than a newer Banksy canvas.. same with prints too. Parla is a great artist but the Market for him is screwed. I was surprised someone connected to him didn't buy it for a record price to generate a bit of press and reasure previous buyers that their art is still worth the paper it's printed on. not 4 times less....
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Source of prices, by mose on Aug 9, 2009 20:59:36 GMT 1, because his agent is trying to sell new works of the same size or smaller for 4 times as much?? you wouldn't see an early less detailed Banksy canvas like heavy weaponry going for 4 times less than a newer Banksy canvas.. same with prints too. Parla is a great artist but the Market for him is screwed. I was surprised someone connected to him didn't buy it for a record price to generate a bit of press and reasure previous buyers that their art is still worth the paper it's printed on. not 4 times less....
The last gallery retail for a new Parla, a much more intricate and developed piece that show the advances and maturation of his style, almost the same size(4'x6') is about 50% more than what that piece went for.
I believe you may be coming at this with incorrect numbers, skewing your view of that auction. IMO, the auction was a success although I did think the piece would go for about 50% more.
and you most definitely will see lesser, older Banksy works go for multiples less than newer, better pieces. We've already seen it and the gulf in pricing will only get wider. Image i$ everything.
because his agent is trying to sell new works of the same size or smaller for 4 times as much?? you wouldn't see an early less detailed Banksy canvas like heavy weaponry going for 4 times less than a newer Banksy canvas.. same with prints too. Parla is a great artist but the Market for him is screwed. I was surprised someone connected to him didn't buy it for a record price to generate a bit of press and reasure previous buyers that their art is still worth the paper it's printed on. not 4 times less.... The last gallery retail for a new Parla, a much more intricate and developed piece that show the advances and maturation of his style, almost the same size(4'x6') is about 50% more than what that piece went for. I believe you may be coming at this with incorrect numbers, skewing your view of that auction. IMO, the auction was a success although I did think the piece would go for about 50% more. and you most definitely will see lesser, older Banksy works go for multiples less than newer, better pieces. We've already seen it and the gulf in pricing will only get wider. Image i$ everything. |
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Source of prices, by jickle on Aug 9, 2009 21:07:23 GMT 1, because his agent is trying to sell new works of the same size or smaller for 4 times as much?? you wouldn't see an early less detailed Banksy canvas like heavy weaponry going for 4 times less than a newer Banksy canvas.. same with prints too. Parla is a great artist but the Market for him is screwed. I was surprised someone connected to him didn't buy it for a record price to generate a bit of press and reasure previous buyers that their art is still worth the paper it's printed on. not 4 times less....
What on earth are you basing all of above on!!!!!! I very much doubt you have any intimate/ accurate knowledge of how either Banksy or Parla set prices for their work. It seems you're basing your assertions on what you read on this board - never the wisets or most accurate place to rely upon.
because his agent is trying to sell new works of the same size or smaller for 4 times as much?? you wouldn't see an early less detailed Banksy canvas like heavy weaponry going for 4 times less than a newer Banksy canvas.. same with prints too. Parla is a great artist but the Market for him is screwed. I was surprised someone connected to him didn't buy it for a record price to generate a bit of press and reasure previous buyers that their art is still worth the paper it's printed on. not 4 times less.... What on earth are you basing all of above on!!!!!! I very much doubt you have any intimate/ accurate knowledge of how either Banksy or Parla set prices for their work. It seems you're basing your assertions on what you read on this board - never the wisets or most accurate place to rely upon. |
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Source of prices, by wizzy on Aug 9, 2009 21:16:49 GMT 1, Surely that would depend on who has posted Jickle?.
Surely that would depend on who has posted Jickle?.
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Source of prices, by jickle on Aug 9, 2009 22:00:58 GMT 1, Surely that would depend on who has posted Jickle?.
Agreed Wiz, however the vast amount of info posted on here as fact, is generally inaccurate and riddled with holes.
In all honesty people who are closest to knowledge on pricing policy for artists are very unlikely to post on this board
Surely that would depend on who has posted Jickle?. Agreed Wiz, however the vast amount of info posted on here as fact, is generally inaccurate and riddled with holes. In all honesty people who are closest to knowledge on pricing policy for artists are very unlikely to post on this board |
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Source of prices, by wizzy on Aug 9, 2009 22:13:59 GMT 1, It happens Jickle.
It happens Jickle.
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