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Parla Watercolour, by lobster on Aug 12, 2009 22:55:35 GMT 1, Pal of mine is selling a fantastic Parla Watercolour from the recent Elms show and is being VERY realistic on price.
Possibly swap for Banksy canvas / older signed print with Cash either way.
Have tried to post pic but PC keeps crashing !!!
Please PM for pics or nick325583@btinternet.com
Many thanks
Pal of mine is selling a fantastic Parla Watercolour from the recent Elms show and is being VERY realistic on price.
Possibly swap for Banksy canvas / older signed print with Cash either way.
Have tried to post pic but PC keeps crashing !!!
Please PM for pics or nick325583@btinternet.com
Many thanks
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Parla Watercolour, by jB on Aug 13, 2009 2:18:26 GMT 1, VERY realistic on price and / swap for banksy canvas seems counterintuitive - would really like to see the piece on offer though.
VERY realistic on price and / swap for banksy canvas seems counterintuitive - would really like to see the piece on offer though.
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Parla Watercolour, by Collection 1 on Aug 13, 2009 2:46:09 GMT 1, i want to see it too!
i want to see it too!
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Parla Watercolour, by lobster on Aug 13, 2009 9:08:04 GMT 1, JB - if you READ the post after it says "cash either way" - so if a signed Banksy then depending on what it is then it may need cash added to it OR a Banksy canvas again need Cash but from the sellers end and indeed a LOT of cash but for the right deal then trust me that would not be a problem.
If you are GENUNINELY interested then I am happy to send you pictures but frankly if you are just trying to look clever and "score points" why don t you do me and yourself a favour and just mind your own business ?
JB - if you READ the post after it says "cash either way" - so if a signed Banksy then depending on what it is then it may need cash added to it OR a Banksy canvas again need Cash but from the sellers end and indeed a LOT of cash but for the right deal then trust me that would not be a problem.
If you are GENUNINELY interested then I am happy to send you pictures but frankly if you are just trying to look clever and "score points" why don t you do me and yourself a favour and just mind your own business ?
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Parla Watercolour, by jB on Aug 13, 2009 9:16:50 GMT 1, Gotcha - not looking to score any 'points' - I would like to see this piece however
Gotcha - not looking to score any 'points' - I would like to see this piece however
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Parla Watercolour, by lobster on Aug 13, 2009 9:21:18 GMT 1, fine - well as I say if you are GENUNINELY interested in buying this then by all means send me your email and I will gladly get some pictures over to you.
fine - well as I say if you are GENUNINELY interested in buying this then by all means send me your email and I will gladly get some pictures over to you.
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Parla Watercolour, by adewilliams on Aug 13, 2009 10:33:49 GMT 1, I saw it at Elms. Does that make me clever?
I saw it at Elms. Does that make me clever?
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Parla Watercolour, by erzengel on Aug 13, 2009 10:44:07 GMT 1, But it would be also nice to see the parla. For all they don't have so much money but like to see a wonderfull artwork.
But it would be also nice to see the parla. For all they don't have so much money but like to see a wonderfull artwork.
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Parla Watercolour, by Eton Groover on Aug 13, 2009 11:01:30 GMT 1, Don't worry. it'll just look like all the other ones.
Don't worry. it'll just look like all the other ones.
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Parla Watercolour, by Cocteau 101 on Aug 13, 2009 11:32:13 GMT 1, Yeh a bit like how all Jackson Pollocks drip paintings look the same. Insightful comments.
Yeh a bit like how all Jackson Pollocks drip paintings look the same. Insightful comments.
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Parla Watercolour, by Photoxtc on Aug 13, 2009 17:34:11 GMT 1, I like these watercolors, I especially like the one JB has hanging on his wall...
I too would like to see a picture, even though I'm not in the market for one at the moment...
I like these watercolors, I especially like the one JB has hanging on his wall... I too would like to see a picture, even though I'm not in the market for one at the moment...
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Parla Watercolour, by snausages on Aug 13, 2009 17:40:11 GMT 1, Yeh a bit like how all Jackson Pollocks drip paintings look the same. Insightful comments. Haha yes, these are on par with Pollock for sure
Yeh a bit like how all Jackson Pollocks drip paintings look the same. Insightful comments. Haha yes, these are on par with Pollock for sure
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Parla Watercolour, by Cocteau 101 on Aug 13, 2009 18:10:37 GMT 1, I didn't say on a par I said that people make the same somewhat smallminded comment about them all looking the same the same way people said that about Pollock.
Snausages - not surprised to see you chipping in when it comes to Parla.
I didn't say on a par I said that people make the same somewhat smallminded comment about them all looking the same the same way people said that about Pollock.
Snausages - not surprised to see you chipping in when it comes to Parla.
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Parla Watercolour, by afroken on Aug 13, 2009 18:26:08 GMT 1, here we go again. groundhog thread.
here we go again. groundhog thread.
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Parla Watercolour, by Eton Groover on Aug 13, 2009 19:14:15 GMT 1, The point about Jackson Pollock is that ANYONE could do what he did - however Pollock was the one that did it.
End of story - anyone else can reproduce that style of work. You do not need to be an artist, and consequently reproducing it does not make you one.
Pollock's work needs to be taken in context within art history and the development of abstract expressionism.
Anything else is just drips on canvas.
The point about Jackson Pollock is that ANYONE could do what he did - however Pollock was the one that did it.
End of story - anyone else can reproduce that style of work. You do not need to be an artist, and consequently reproducing it does not make you one.
Pollock's work needs to be taken in context within art history and the development of abstract expressionism.
Anything else is just drips on canvas.
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Parla Watercolour, by snelj8 on Aug 13, 2009 19:37:07 GMT 1, so, there's a parla for sale?
so, there's a parla for sale?
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Parla Watercolour, by Cocteau 101 on Aug 13, 2009 19:43:30 GMT 1, snausages - i'm in New York soon so I'll come and say hello to you. We'll see who's the smartarse then. Say hello to your mom from me!
snausages - i'm in New York soon so I'll come and say hello to you. We'll see who's the smartarse then. Say hello to your mom from me!
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Parla Watercolour, by lee3 on Aug 13, 2009 20:02:59 GMT 1, >>>The point about Jackson Pollock is that ANYONE could do what he did - however Pollock was the one that did it.
End of story - anyone else can reproduce that style of work. You do not need to be an artist, and consequently reproducing it does not make you one.<<<
I respectfully disagree. I've seen so many pollock imitators and few of them even come close. That man had a spiritual dance around a canvas laid on the floor (both of which to my knowledge had never been done before) and the madness and demons he carried with him in life seemed to be kept at bay while he worked and even he admitted that it calmed him. Those are masterpieces and while you and I may be able to lay a canvas on the ground and run around it with paint and toss some rocks and sand on it for good measure, i promise you that neither one of us will come close to the beauty that to me (and many others) only he could invoke.
I'll concede that you and I both could easily do a Warhol knock off but good luck on Pollock.
>>>The point about Jackson Pollock is that ANYONE could do what he did - however Pollock was the one that did it.
End of story - anyone else can reproduce that style of work. You do not need to be an artist, and consequently reproducing it does not make you one.<<<
I respectfully disagree. I've seen so many pollock imitators and few of them even come close. That man had a spiritual dance around a canvas laid on the floor (both of which to my knowledge had never been done before) and the madness and demons he carried with him in life seemed to be kept at bay while he worked and even he admitted that it calmed him. Those are masterpieces and while you and I may be able to lay a canvas on the ground and run around it with paint and toss some rocks and sand on it for good measure, i promise you that neither one of us will come close to the beauty that to me (and many others) only he could invoke.
I'll concede that you and I both could easily do a Warhol knock off but good luck on Pollock.
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Parla Watercolour, by Eton Groover on Aug 13, 2009 20:21:39 GMT 1, I agree regarding some aspects Lee and always respect your opinion on here.
The way something hangs together as a whole differentiates an artist from someone who just throws stuff together.
It is the same with Mondrian. When people are shown a Mondrian against the same colours laid out in a slightly different pattern, the vast majority of people select the Mondrian as the most visually pleasing image.
However my argument is that now producing work in a Pollock style is neither evolutionary, radical, fresh or innovative.
I really do like Parla's work, and could afford to buy one however what gets my goat is that the prices are so expensive that i am not prepared to pay it. It sometimes pays to be slightly cynical, however i may be the one eating my words when they are trading for millions.
Either that or i may buy one when someone spots that the emperor is not really wearing any clothes.
I agree regarding some aspects Lee and always respect your opinion on here.
The way something hangs together as a whole differentiates an artist from someone who just throws stuff together.
It is the same with Mondrian. When people are shown a Mondrian against the same colours laid out in a slightly different pattern, the vast majority of people select the Mondrian as the most visually pleasing image.
However my argument is that now producing work in a Pollock style is neither evolutionary, radical, fresh or innovative.
I really do like Parla's work, and could afford to buy one however what gets my goat is that the prices are so expensive that i am not prepared to pay it. It sometimes pays to be slightly cynical, however i may be the one eating my words when they are trading for millions.
Either that or i may buy one when someone spots that the emperor is not really wearing any clothes.
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Parla Watercolour, by lee3 on Aug 13, 2009 20:40:30 GMT 1, >>>However my argument is that now producing work in a Pollock style is neither evolutionary, radical, fresh or innovative.<<
Agreed
>>>I really do like Parla's work, and could afford to buy one however what gets my goat is that the prices are so expensive that i am not prepared to pay it. It sometimes pays to be slightly cynical, however i may be the one eating my words when they are trading for millions.<<
I'll echo your thoughts on this with the disclaimer that I believe there is a decent chance given the economies of the world that the price of art today, even after last years 50% correction, may look very expensive 5 years from now. We buy what we love and good for you if you get lucky and happen to collect an artist that someday trades for millions. I like Parla's work A LOT but the pricing concerns me as does the pricing of most artists to be honest. The beauty of this hobby is that it's subjective and even if you and I don't feel compelled to buy one of his canvases at 50 to 75k, there are plenty who do.
Maybe someone here can help me as I asked this question elsewhere and it went unanswered. On WK someone mentioned that Parla does not want photos posted publicly of his work even after the buyer has it in thier home. That's obviously tough to control but I've never heard of that before and I'm curious as to why. thx in advance for any color...
>>>However my argument is that now producing work in a Pollock style is neither evolutionary, radical, fresh or innovative.<<
Agreed
>>>I really do like Parla's work, and could afford to buy one however what gets my goat is that the prices are so expensive that i am not prepared to pay it. It sometimes pays to be slightly cynical, however i may be the one eating my words when they are trading for millions.<<
I'll echo your thoughts on this with the disclaimer that I believe there is a decent chance given the economies of the world that the price of art today, even after last years 50% correction, may look very expensive 5 years from now. We buy what we love and good for you if you get lucky and happen to collect an artist that someday trades for millions. I like Parla's work A LOT but the pricing concerns me as does the pricing of most artists to be honest. The beauty of this hobby is that it's subjective and even if you and I don't feel compelled to buy one of his canvases at 50 to 75k, there are plenty who do.
Maybe someone here can help me as I asked this question elsewhere and it went unanswered. On WK someone mentioned that Parla does not want photos posted publicly of his work even after the buyer has it in thier home. That's obviously tough to control but I've never heard of that before and I'm curious as to why. thx in advance for any color...
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Parla Watercolour, by Cocteau 101 on Aug 13, 2009 20:43:28 GMT 1, Lee, I'm not sure of the answer but heard he wasn't keen on the appearance of photos - maybe because they associate him with a particular genre that he does not feel is wholly representative of his work.
Lee, I'm not sure of the answer but heard he wasn't keen on the appearance of photos - maybe because they associate him with a particular genre that he does not feel is wholly representative of his work.
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Parla Watercolour, by curiousgeorge on Aug 13, 2009 20:50:29 GMT 1, snausages - i'm in New York soon so I'll come and say hello to you. We'll see who's the smartarse then. Say hello to your mom from me!
Haha Jose Parla = yo momma jokes
Take it Ease(y)
snausages - i'm in New York soon so I'll come and say hello to you. We'll see who's the smartarse then. Say hello to your mom from me! Haha Jose Parla = yo momma jokes Take it Ease(y)
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Parla Watercolour, by lalinea on Aug 13, 2009 20:54:33 GMT 1, Pic??
Pic??
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Parla Watercolour, by snelj8 on Aug 13, 2009 21:01:53 GMT 1, Lee, I'm not sure of the answer but heard he wasn't keen on the appearance of photos - maybe because they associate him with a particular genre that he does not feel is wholly representative of his work.
Interesting, first I heard of this. So what genre is this that he does not wish to be associated with? Isn't this essentially ripping on those who buy his work?
Lee, I'm not sure of the answer but heard he wasn't keen on the appearance of photos - maybe because they associate him with a particular genre that he does not feel is wholly representative of his work. Interesting, first I heard of this. So what genre is this that he does not wish to be associated with? Isn't this essentially ripping on those who buy his work?
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Parla Watercolour, by wallwiss on Aug 13, 2009 22:05:13 GMT 1, why not just post pictures whats the big deal, parla watercolurs in this climate depending on the size go for between 6.5k and 12k, i don't get this elitist attitude that rears it's head whenever parla is mentioned or he has a piece for sale it's so stupid everyone turns into a connoisseur all of a sudden, also whats with the constant comparisons to pollock or twombly? bottom line is just show us the pictures mate. ive heard parla is selective about who he sells too and wont sell to anyone again if they sell a piece of his or some bullshit, if this is true then he's an imbicile but its probably just some stupid rumour
why not just post pictures whats the big deal, parla watercolurs in this climate depending on the size go for between 6.5k and 12k, i don't get this elitist attitude that rears it's head whenever parla is mentioned or he has a piece for sale it's so stupid everyone turns into a connoisseur all of a sudden, also whats with the constant comparisons to pollock or twombly? bottom line is just show us the pictures mate. ive heard parla is selective about who he sells too and wont sell to anyone again if they sell a piece of his or some bullshit, if this is true then he's an imbicile but its probably just some stupid rumour
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Parla Watercolour, by dudebro17 on Aug 13, 2009 22:06:04 GMT 1, Yeh a bit like how all Jackson Pollocks drip paintings look the same. Insightful comments. Haha yes, these are on par with Pollock for sure
Im pretty sure you understood what coctaeu meant. It was fairly obvious that it was not a direct comparison of the art and a direct comparison of the criticisms that people make in regards to the work. Come on lady.
Yeh a bit like how all Jackson Pollocks drip paintings look the same. Insightful comments. Haha yes, these are on par with Pollock for sure Im pretty sure you understood what coctaeu meant. It was fairly obvious that it was not a direct comparison of the art and a direct comparison of the criticisms that people make in regards to the work. Come on lady.
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Parla Watercolour, by dudebro17 on Aug 13, 2009 22:11:05 GMT 1, why not just post pictures whats the big deal, parla watercolurs in this climate depending on the size go for between 6.5k and 12k, i don't get this elitist attitude that rears it's head whenever parla is mentioned or he has a piece for sale it's so stupid everyone turns into a connoisseur all of a sudden, also whats with the constant comparisons to pollock or twombly? bottom line is just show us the pictures mate. ive heard parla is selective about who he sells too and wont sell to anyone again if they sell a piece of his or some bulls**t, if this is true then he's an imbicile but its probably just some stupid rumour
Any art gallery or artist is pretty aware and careful of where they place commissions or special works. Especially a younger, more successful artist. This ensures that when values rise everyone and their mother dont run to sell. Far from imbicile, more like protecting your career. All you need to do is look around at many of the artists on this board and look at what rampant flipping has done to their careers to see why this is a necessary practice.
why not just post pictures whats the big deal, parla watercolurs in this climate depending on the size go for between 6.5k and 12k, i don't get this elitist attitude that rears it's head whenever parla is mentioned or he has a piece for sale it's so stupid everyone turns into a connoisseur all of a sudden, also whats with the constant comparisons to pollock or twombly? bottom line is just show us the pictures mate. ive heard parla is selective about who he sells too and wont sell to anyone again if they sell a piece of his or some bulls**t, if this is true then he's an imbicile but its probably just some stupid rumour Any art gallery or artist is pretty aware and careful of where they place commissions or special works. Especially a younger, more successful artist. This ensures that when values rise everyone and their mother dont run to sell. Far from imbicile, more like protecting your career. All you need to do is look around at many of the artists on this board and look at what rampant flipping has done to their careers to see why this is a necessary practice.
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Parla Watercolour, by monkeyart on Aug 13, 2009 22:21:33 GMT 1, Don't really understand why all the secrecy? Its either brilliant PR or very Bad? Surely as an artist you would want to well know by everyone not just a very select few? (This goes back to the Guy discussion I guess?) Blimey I'm lost with all this. I LOVE parlas work though, but not sure I'd scrub up enough ever to be eligible :-)
Don't really understand why all the secrecy? Its either brilliant PR or very Bad? Surely as an artist you would want to well know by everyone not just a very select few? (This goes back to the Guy discussion I guess?) Blimey I'm lost with all this. I LOVE parlas work though, but not sure I'd scrub up enough ever to be eligible :-)
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Parla Watercolour, by lobster on Aug 13, 2009 23:15:02 GMT 1, ummm ... OK !!!
I actually DID have problems posting a pic and I assume it would have been the case if I were trying to post ANY pic !!!
Every time I put my pic in the "attachments" line it took ages to post then evenytually crashed ? I have sent the picture to Wiz in the hope that he can post it ?
Just to reiterate I DID try and post , the watercolour is up for sale , it looks great and is realistically priced.
ummm ... OK !!!
I actually DID have problems posting a pic and I assume it would have been the case if I were trying to post ANY pic !!!
Every time I put my pic in the "attachments" line it took ages to post then evenytually crashed ? I have sent the picture to Wiz in the hope that he can post it ?
Just to reiterate I DID try and post , the watercolour is up for sale , it looks great and is realistically priced.
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Parla Watercolour, by monkeyart on Aug 13, 2009 23:23:23 GMT 1, Fair enough fella, is your mate up for swaps for old signed B's, might be interested..
Fair enough fella, is your mate up for swaps for old signed B's, might be interested..
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