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DIY Framing, by APM on Jun 13, 2010 13:58:09 GMT 1, Oh and as for the valuable contact, I got over 2grands worth of frames for £90...! I'm not going to have any framing/cost issues in my mind for a long time comming now 
Oh and as for the valuable contact, I got over 2grands worth of frames for £90...! I'm not going to have any framing/cost issues in my mind for a long time comming now |
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DIY Framing, by Deleted on Jun 13, 2010 14:11:16 GMT 1, wow APM, your DIY framing looks great on your works!
wow APM, your DIY framing looks great on your works!
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DIY Framing, by APM on Jun 15, 2010 22:06:50 GMT 1, Thank you... I spent today framing up some pieces:
(Photo doesn't show scale very well - the redheads are around a meter in height)
Pair of the frames for the redheads, including glass backing etc, £20, sourced from a carboot sale. Luckily they're spot-on the right dimensions for the pieces so no mytering was needed. Sanded them, painted silver, varnised... Cost of mount board for both is bang on £20... So basically, each one cost £20 to mount and frame... How much would a frame shop charge? Well over a 100 each, I could imagine over 200 in certain places too...
The front piece, frame cost £15 inc glass, backing etc, sourced from a carboot sale... Painted silver and 'aged' back. Cost of mount board £6... £21 all in all... I'm not sure how much it would cost in a frame shop, but considering the moulding of the frame it would certainly be over 100quid...
Thank you... I spent today framing up some pieces: (Photo doesn't show scale very well - the redheads are around a meter in height) Pair of the frames for the redheads, including glass backing etc, £20, sourced from a carboot sale. Luckily they're spot-on the right dimensions for the pieces so no mytering was needed. Sanded them, painted silver, varnised... Cost of mount board for both is bang on £20... So basically, each one cost £20 to mount and frame... How much would a frame shop charge? Well over a 100 each, I could imagine over 200 in certain places too... The front piece, frame cost £15 inc glass, backing etc, sourced from a carboot sale... Painted silver and 'aged' back. Cost of mount board £6... £21 all in all... I'm not sure how much it would cost in a frame shop, but considering the moulding of the frame it would certainly be over 100quid... |
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DIY Framing, by Karl Read on Jun 16, 2010 12:41:44 GMT 1, Wow, they look great!
Wow, they look great!
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DIY Framing, by curiousgeorge on Jul 5, 2010 19:40:34 GMT 1, Thank you... I spent today framing up some pieces: (Photo doesn't show scale very well - the redheads are around a meter in height) Pair of the frames for the redheads, including glass backing etc, £20, sourced from a carboot sale. Luckily they're spot-on the right dimensions for the pieces so no mytering was needed. Sanded them, painted silver, varnised... Cost of mount board for both is bang on £20... So basically, each one cost £20 to mount and frame... How much would a frame shop charge? Well over a 100 each, I could imagine over 200 in certain places too... The front piece, frame cost £15 inc glass, backing etc, sourced from a carboot sale... Painted silver and 'aged' back. Cost of mount board £6... £21 all in all... I'm not sure how much it would cost in a frame shop, but considering the moulding of the frame it would certainly be over 100quid...
You should also consider a 'proper' framer would/should use materials TOTALLY different to those in these frames.Anything else is akin to comparing apples to oranges
Thank you... I spent today framing up some pieces: (Photo doesn't show scale very well - the redheads are around a meter in height) Pair of the frames for the redheads, including glass backing etc, £20, sourced from a carboot sale. Luckily they're spot-on the right dimensions for the pieces so no mytering was needed. Sanded them, painted silver, varnised... Cost of mount board for both is bang on £20... So basically, each one cost £20 to mount and frame... How much would a frame shop charge? Well over a 100 each, I could imagine over 200 in certain places too... The front piece, frame cost £15 inc glass, backing etc, sourced from a carboot sale... Painted silver and 'aged' back. Cost of mount board £6... £21 all in all... I'm not sure how much it would cost in a frame shop, but considering the moulding of the frame it would certainly be over 100quid... You should also consider a 'proper' framer would/should use materials TOTALLY different to those in these frames.Anything else is akin to comparing apples to oranges |
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DIY Framing, by APM on Jul 9, 2010 6:57:15 GMT 1, How so?
Someone has already done that part, gone to a framers and had them done.... 10 or so years down the line, end up at a carboot sale, for a fraction of the price! Can't complain about that
How so? Someone has already done that part, gone to a framers and had them done.... 10 or so years down the line, end up at a carboot sale, for a fraction of the price! Can't complain about that |
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DIY Framing, by frontierman on Jul 10, 2010 11:02:12 GMT 1, DIY framing will always be cheaper than a “Proper framer” for the following reason – Overheads
This is a list of the approximate cost for running a framing business for a year, depending on area( London would be a lot more)
Rent/lease £12,000.00
Business rates £3,000.00
Trade waste £750.00
Water Rates £500.00
Electric £1200.00
Public liability insurance £800.00
Insurance for Your artwork stored at the business £1,000.00 + (any extra premiums for extra value work) and not every framer has this cover
Professional fees (accountants, etc) £800.00
Bank charges £500.00 +
And then if you have staff, their wages can be anywhere from an average £18,000.00 per staff
Cost of machines, well that can be from £10,000.00 plus
All this is got to be covered in the price a “Proper Framer” will charge you , plus the cost of the materials to frame your artwork.
And that’s not taking into account any profit for future investment in new machinery and equipment.
So please bear this in mind when you get a quote from a “Proper Framer” , most of us are only trying to make a living like most of you.
DIY framing will always be cheaper than a “Proper framer” for the following reason – Overheads
This is a list of the approximate cost for running a framing business for a year, depending on area( London would be a lot more)
Rent/lease £12,000.00
Business rates £3,000.00
Trade waste £750.00
Water Rates £500.00
Electric £1200.00
Public liability insurance £800.00
Insurance for Your artwork stored at the business £1,000.00 + (any extra premiums for extra value work) and not every framer has this cover
Professional fees (accountants, etc) £800.00
Bank charges £500.00 +
And then if you have staff, their wages can be anywhere from an average £18,000.00 per staff
Cost of machines, well that can be from £10,000.00 plus
All this is got to be covered in the price a “Proper Framer” will charge you , plus the cost of the materials to frame your artwork.
And that’s not taking into account any profit for future investment in new machinery and equipment.
So please bear this in mind when you get a quote from a “Proper Framer” , most of us are only trying to make a living like most of you.
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DIY Framing, by jackson86 on Jul 21, 2010 9:15:52 GMT 1, Wow really above frame is so nice i have landscap natural pic in same frame..
Wow really above frame is so nice i have landscap natural pic in same frame..
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DIY Framing, by bazzj04 on Sept 1, 2010 23:05:05 GMT 1, .
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DIY Framing, by voodoo1967 on Oct 13, 2010 20:20:46 GMT 1, £100 for a frame !!! - blimey what are the dimensions ? - is it made of gold...
www.cadremont.co.uk/shop/picture-frames/
They deliver via Fedex - they do contract frames as well - I think 4 to a pack
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DIY Framing, by RetroCanvas on May 12, 2011 20:10:19 GMT 1, I recently used www.ezeframe.co.uk/ to order a few bespoke sized frames and mounts.
They were cheap, but thats all i needed, and their site was easy to use.
Just thought I'd big them up for exceeding my expectations. Very rare these days for companies to do that!
Retro
I recently used www.ezeframe.co.uk/ to order a few bespoke sized frames and mounts. They were cheap, but thats all i needed, and their site was easy to use. Just thought I'd big them up for exceeding my expectations. Very rare these days for companies to do that! Retro |
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DIY Framing, by bankside on Apr 30, 2013 17:16:32 GMT 1, Here are a couple of DIY float mounts I have done .. I cut down some ikea box frames made the frame spacers and float mounted the print using hinge tape on mount board . The orange frame I did the same but masked up and sprayed the outer and inner edges of the frame and cut glass for both
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DIY Framing, by docean on Dec 24, 2015 18:21:33 GMT 1, Here's one I recently made (the piece and the frame)
red in the lips is the same red on the frame. both sides of glass painted to give a 3D effect....can't tell from pic angle.
Here's one I recently made (the piece and the frame) red in the lips is the same red on the frame. both sides of glass painted to give a 3D effect....can't tell from pic angle. |
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DIY Framing, by Wearology on Mar 10, 2016 15:20:28 GMT 1, I like to make my own frames and mounting backs.
This is a piece by Jean Pascal on found cardboard
I like to make my own frames and mounting backs. This is a piece by Jean Pascal on found cardboard |
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DIY Framing, by Wearology on Mar 10, 2016 15:25:24 GMT 1, Frames purchased from A.C. Moore for less than $20.00
Artist - Futura
Frames purchased from A.C. Moore for less than $20.00 Artist - Futura |
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DIY Framing, by proffesser on Mar 10, 2016 15:31:54 GMT 1, 
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DIY Framing, by Wearology on Mar 10, 2016 16:16:24 GMT 1, I made a few frames from a deconstructed 100 year old fruit basket that was made of wire, wood & nails.
I made a few frames from a deconstructed 100 year old fruit basket that was made of wire, wood & nails. |
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DIY Framing, by proffesser on Mar 22, 2016 11:51:27 GMT 1, 
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DIY Framing, by iamzero on Mar 22, 2016 13:00:04 GMT 1, Nicely done but why a window mat and spacers? When I've seen this done in the past the matting always starts to become baggy as it doesn't have the pressure of the glass to hold it down.
Nicely done but why a window mat and spacers? When I've seen this done in the past the matting always starts to become baggy as it doesn't have the pressure of the glass to hold it down.
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DIY Framing, by proffesser on Mar 22, 2016 13:07:35 GMT 1, cheers... to be honest the frame was that thick just looked right sat back somewhat... and probably having too much time on my hands... the matting isn't the tightest admittedly so might end up re-doing it at some point, but it totally reversible so not too concerned at this point
cheers... to be honest the frame was that thick just looked right sat back somewhat... and probably having too much time on my hands... the matting isn't the tightest admittedly so might end up re-doing it at some point, but it totally reversible so not too concerned at this point
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DIY Framing, by brycepen on May 21, 2017 20:42:47 GMT 1, I'm a poor artist that typically makes large paintings with little regard for conventional dimensions. Accordingly, framing is the most cost prohibitive barrier to making my art presentable. One of my larger pieces can easy cost £300-400 to properly mount and frame.
Luckily, I'm incredibly cheap and also a bit of a handyman, so I invested in a contractor grade table saw which allows for mitering. You can buy long (8-10 meters) uncut pieces of wood for framing for about £5. Buy a piece made of unfinished wood so you can paint/stain it to fit the aesthetic of the piece. It's also cheaper than buying finished frame patterns.
For prints I purchase or my own non paintings, i found a budget matting cutter, and I try to mat a piece so that the dimensions are close to that of a commonly sold frame. I could do a tutorial or give some examples, but I'm brand spanking new here. I'll wait until I figure out if anyone might give as**t.
I'm a poor artist that typically makes large paintings with little regard for conventional dimensions. Accordingly, framing is the most cost prohibitive barrier to making my art presentable. One of my larger pieces can easy cost £300-400 to properly mount and frame.
Luckily, I'm incredibly cheap and also a bit of a handyman, so I invested in a contractor grade table saw which allows for mitering. You can buy long (8-10 meters) uncut pieces of wood for framing for about £5. Buy a piece made of unfinished wood so you can paint/stain it to fit the aesthetic of the piece. It's also cheaper than buying finished frame patterns.
For prints I purchase or my own non paintings, i found a budget matting cutter, and I try to mat a piece so that the dimensions are close to that of a commonly sold frame. I could do a tutorial or give some examples, but I'm brand spanking new here. I'll wait until I figure out if anyone might give as**t.
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DIY Framing, by k2 on May 22, 2017 13:30:24 GMT 1, I'm a poor artist that typically makes large paintings with little regard for conventional dimensions. Accordingly, framing is the most cost prohibitive barrier to making my art presentable. One of my larger pieces can easy cost £300-400 to properly mount and frame. Luckily, I'm incredibly cheap and also a bit of a handyman, so I invested in a contractor grade table saw which allows for mitering. You can buy long (8-10 meters) uncut pieces of wood for framing for about £5. Buy a piece made of unfinished wood so you can paint/stain it to fit the aesthetic of the piece. It's also cheaper than buying finished frame patterns. For prints I purchase or my own non paintings, i found a budget matting cutter, and I try to mat a piece so that the dimensions are close to that of a commonly sold frame. I could do a tutorial or give some examples, but I'm brand spanking new here. I'll wait until I figure out if anyone might give as**t.
I tried making a couple of tray frames last week, although I only have hand tools, and it was surprisingly fun. Really happy with the results.
I'm not sure I'd go as far as cutting my own mats as they're pretty easy / cheap to buy online, but would definitely be interested to see how you're constructing your frames.
I'm a poor artist that typically makes large paintings with little regard for conventional dimensions. Accordingly, framing is the most cost prohibitive barrier to making my art presentable. One of my larger pieces can easy cost £300-400 to properly mount and frame. Luckily, I'm incredibly cheap and also a bit of a handyman, so I invested in a contractor grade table saw which allows for mitering. You can buy long (8-10 meters) uncut pieces of wood for framing for about £5. Buy a piece made of unfinished wood so you can paint/stain it to fit the aesthetic of the piece. It's also cheaper than buying finished frame patterns. For prints I purchase or my own non paintings, i found a budget matting cutter, and I try to mat a piece so that the dimensions are close to that of a commonly sold frame. I could do a tutorial or give some examples, but I'm brand spanking new here. I'll wait until I figure out if anyone might give as**t. I for one would definitely be interested in reading this. I tried making a couple of tray frames last week, although I only have hand tools, and it was surprisingly fun. Really happy with the results. I'm not sure I'd go as far as cutting my own mats as they're pretty easy / cheap to buy online, but would definitely be interested to see how you're constructing your frames. |
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DIY Framing, by The True Cubs Fan on May 22, 2017 17:11:46 GMT 1, I'm a poor artist that typically makes large paintings with little regard for conventional dimensions. Accordingly, framing is the most cost prohibitive barrier to making my art presentable. One of my larger pieces can easy cost £300-400 to properly mount and frame. Luckily, I'm incredibly cheap and also a bit of a handyman, so I invested in a contractor grade table saw which allows for mitering. You can buy long (8-10 meters) uncut pieces of wood for framing for about £5. Buy a piece made of unfinished wood so you can paint/stain it to fit the aesthetic of the piece. It's also cheaper than buying finished frame patterns. For prints I purchase or my own non paintings, i found a budget matting cutter, and I try to mat a piece so that the dimensions are close to that of a commonly sold frame. I could do a tutorial or give some examples, but I'm brand spanking new here. I'll wait until I figure out if anyone might give as**t. I for one would definitely be interested in reading this. I tried making a couple of tray frames last week, although I only have hand tools, and it was surprisingly fun. Really happy with the results. I'm not sure I'd go as far as cutting my own mats as they're pretty easy / cheap to buy online, but would definitely be interested to see how you're constructing your frames.
I'd love to see this too!
As for diy framing, here's my Kenny Random in a simple IKEA frame. I find the only major downside is the highly reflective plastic cover, but I also only paid about $20 for the frame so I can't be too upset 
I'm a poor artist that typically makes large paintings with little regard for conventional dimensions. Accordingly, framing is the most cost prohibitive barrier to making my art presentable. One of my larger pieces can easy cost £300-400 to properly mount and frame. Luckily, I'm incredibly cheap and also a bit of a handyman, so I invested in a contractor grade table saw which allows for mitering. You can buy long (8-10 meters) uncut pieces of wood for framing for about £5. Buy a piece made of unfinished wood so you can paint/stain it to fit the aesthetic of the piece. It's also cheaper than buying finished frame patterns. For prints I purchase or my own non paintings, i found a budget matting cutter, and I try to mat a piece so that the dimensions are close to that of a commonly sold frame. I could do a tutorial or give some examples, but I'm brand spanking new here. I'll wait until I figure out if anyone might give as**t. I for one would definitely be interested in reading this. I tried making a couple of tray frames last week, although I only have hand tools, and it was surprisingly fun. Really happy with the results. I'm not sure I'd go as far as cutting my own mats as they're pretty easy / cheap to buy online, but would definitely be interested to see how you're constructing your frames. I'd love to see this too! As for diy framing, here's my Kenny Random in a simple IKEA frame. I find the only major downside is the highly reflective plastic cover, but I also only paid about $20 for the frame so I can't be too upset |
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DIY Framing, by easycraig on May 22, 2017 17:55:20 GMT 1, - I framed a couple pieces this weekend, -hit up the local artstore ( Aaron Bros ) - bought 2 solid wood frames that were an ugly teal blue, rightfully so they were in the 60% off bin, plus I had a coupon for an additional 20% off everything purchased. So 2 frames and piece of black mat board cost me $31 and change. I hit the frames with some black spray paint a few times, pulled out the mat cutter that I have not used for a couple years, and went to work, quite pleased with the results and you can't beat the price.
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DIY Framing, by brycepen on May 22, 2017 22:12:48 GMT 1, I'm a poor artist that typically makes large paintings with little regard for conventional dimensions. Accordingly, framing is the most cost prohibitive barrier to making my art presentable. One of my larger pieces can easy cost £300-400 to properly mount and frame. Luckily, I'm incredibly cheap and also a bit of a handyman, so I invested in a contractor grade table saw which allows for mitering. You can buy long (8-10 meters) uncut pieces of wood for framing for about £5. Buy a piece made of unfinished wood so you can paint/stain it to fit the aesthetic of the piece. It's also cheaper than buying finished frame patterns. For prints I purchase or my own non paintings, i found a budget matting cutter, and I try to mat a piece so that the dimensions are close to that of a commonly sold frame. I could do a tutorial or give some examples, but I'm brand spanking new here. I'll wait until I figure out if anyone might give as**t. I for one would definitely be interested in reading this. I tried making a couple of tray frames last week, although I only have hand tools, and it was surprisingly fun. Really happy with the results. I'm not sure I'd go as far as cutting my own mats as they're pretty easy / cheap to buy online, but would definitely be interested to see how you're constructing your frames.
What is it that you typically frame? Prints or canvases? Any style of framing you fancy? Just trying to get an idea of what I could share that's most useful.
Once upon a time I tried making frames with handtools... it was quite a time consuming nightmare honestly. Depending on how much art you anticipate to frame in the future, a refurbished fancy table saw for £300 (+about £20 for the router bits) you'd need is a pretty good long term investment.
I cut my own mats because, as I said, my pieces never seem to be the dimensions you can easily find precut. Anyway, if you guys give me an idea of what you want, I can give a pretty detailed guide on how to get started. The hard part is the initial setup, but with a bit of practice, you'll be making gallery worthy frames in no time!
I'm a poor artist that typically makes large paintings with little regard for conventional dimensions. Accordingly, framing is the most cost prohibitive barrier to making my art presentable. One of my larger pieces can easy cost £300-400 to properly mount and frame. Luckily, I'm incredibly cheap and also a bit of a handyman, so I invested in a contractor grade table saw which allows for mitering. You can buy long (8-10 meters) uncut pieces of wood for framing for about £5. Buy a piece made of unfinished wood so you can paint/stain it to fit the aesthetic of the piece. It's also cheaper than buying finished frame patterns. For prints I purchase or my own non paintings, i found a budget matting cutter, and I try to mat a piece so that the dimensions are close to that of a commonly sold frame. I could do a tutorial or give some examples, but I'm brand spanking new here. I'll wait until I figure out if anyone might give as**t. I for one would definitely be interested in reading this. I tried making a couple of tray frames last week, although I only have hand tools, and it was surprisingly fun. Really happy with the results. I'm not sure I'd go as far as cutting my own mats as they're pretty easy / cheap to buy online, but would definitely be interested to see how you're constructing your frames. What is it that you typically frame? Prints or canvases? Any style of framing you fancy? Just trying to get an idea of what I could share that's most useful. Once upon a time I tried making frames with handtools... it was quite a time consuming nightmare honestly. Depending on how much art you anticipate to frame in the future, a refurbished fancy table saw for £300 (+about £20 for the router bits) you'd need is a pretty good long term investment. I cut my own mats because, as I said, my pieces never seem to be the dimensions you can easily find precut. Anyway, if you guys give me an idea of what you want, I can give a pretty detailed guide on how to get started. The hard part is the initial setup, but with a bit of practice, you'll be making gallery worthy frames in no time! |
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DIY Framing, by swissmade on Dec 19, 2017 14:54:51 GMT 1, I am thinking of DIY Framing some art pieces which have been under the bed for long time.
I have been researching conservation mount boards and came across this site - www.bramptonframing.com/cut-to-size-picture-mounts -
has anyone on the forum come across them, used them or can anyone verify that what they sell are conservation mounts? How can you tell if a mount is conservation or not?
I am thinking of DIY Framing some art pieces which have been under the bed for long time. I have been researching conservation mount boards and came across this site - www.bramptonframing.com/cut-to-size-picture-mounts - has anyone on the forum come across them, used them or can anyone verify that what they sell are conservation mounts? How can you tell if a mount is conservation or not? |
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DIY Framing, by adewilliams on Dec 19, 2017 15:25:47 GMT 1, I recently made a very small tray frame, its pretty rough so I painted it and sanded it down to add a fake patina. Very difficult to achieve a 45 degree angle with a hand saw and mitre block but I got there in the end.
I recently made a very small tray frame, its pretty rough so I painted it and sanded it down to add a fake patina. Very difficult to achieve a 45 degree angle with a hand saw and mitre block but I got there in the end. |
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DIY Framing, by mrbagel on Dec 19, 2017 15:59:46 GMT 1, Keen to keep this one bumped since I can no longer afford to frame my purchases from this year ha...
I'm going to try both www.easyframe.co.uk and www.frames.co.uk, see how I get on. Sure it'll be fine - I think the devil in the detail will come down to the mounting.
Getting conservation supplies from www.lionpic.co.uk/ and www.preservationequipment.com/
Any other suggestions much appreciated! Maybe if this works I'll turn my hand to framing...
Keen to keep this one bumped since I can no longer afford to frame my purchases from this year ha... I'm going to try both www.easyframe.co.uk and www.frames.co.uk, see how I get on. Sure it'll be fine - I think the devil in the detail will come down to the mounting. Getting conservation supplies from www.lionpic.co.uk/ and www.preservationequipment.com/Any other suggestions much appreciated! Maybe if this works I'll turn my hand to framing... |
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