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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by jamieb on Jan 17, 2009 12:29:33 GMT 1, Just thought I'd share some pics of a few prints that I have framed myself lately.
I'm luckly enough to have a mate who's a wood machine and can make me the odd moulding, although you can go to somewhere like Lion who do a chop service for moulding.
I bought a hand tool for joining the frame and a band strap to hold it while doing this and went to Lion and bought conservation board, tape etc... d-rings, picture cord, sealing tape, frame bumpers etc. - all in all cost about £140, but have enough sundries to do about another 80 frames. Just will need to get mount board each time.
Admittedly I am a designer so are not that scared of cutting mounts etc. but its only about patience and practice.
I say give it a go and get your art on the walls and save yourself a fair amount on framing.
Just thought I'd share some pics of a few prints that I have framed myself lately. I'm luckly enough to have a mate who's a wood machine and can make me the odd moulding, although you can go to somewhere like Lion who do a chop service for moulding. I bought a hand tool for joining the frame and a band strap to hold it while doing this and went to Lion and bought conservation board, tape etc... d-rings, picture cord, sealing tape, frame bumpers etc. - all in all cost about £140, but have enough sundries to do about another 80 frames. Just will need to get mount board each time. Admittedly I am a designer so are not that scared of cutting mounts etc. but its only about patience and practice. I say give it a go and get your art on the walls and save yourself a fair amount on framing. |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by grantb on Jan 17, 2009 12:32:56 GMT 1, and i thought you was offering a framing service 
and i thought you was offering a framing service |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by atomone on Jan 17, 2009 12:37:05 GMT 1, Great stuff there Jame! I think you may even get a few frame orders from this post! (inc mine)  So is the S&S yours? really like the subtle blue mount on that one and the VLH is really sweet! Nice one!
Great stuff there Jame! I think you may even get a few frame orders from this post! (inc mine) So is the S&S yours? really like the subtle blue mount on that one and the VLH is really sweet! Nice one! |
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jamieb
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by jamieb on Jan 17, 2009 12:39:48 GMT 1, the S&S is mine, the mount is actually super white, its just the frame and print are a bit more creamy and make it look pale blue
the S&S is mine, the mount is actually super white, its just the frame and print are a bit more creamy and make it look pale blue
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by Ruggs on Jan 17, 2009 12:40:11 GMT 1, Some nice pieces there jamieb! Excellent framing too. Nice and simple. Especially like the VLH. Must have saved yourself a packet.
Some nice pieces there jamieb! Excellent framing too. Nice and simple. Especially like the VLH. Must have saved yourself a packet.
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by headzup on Jan 17, 2009 12:49:59 GMT 1, great skills. i think it's a really interesting point as too how much cash you spend on framing with all the doom and gloom on the financials. it is after all about the print - the frame compliments the print. i'd love to have a bash and save a few £, but just like my diy skills it's all about big cahoonahs and the right kit. well done buddy.
great skills. i think it's a really interesting point as too how much cash you spend on framing with all the doom and gloom on the financials. it is after all about the print - the frame compliments the print. i'd love to have a bash and save a few £, but just like my diy skills it's all about big cahoonahs and the right kit. well done buddy.
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by wiz on Jan 17, 2009 12:51:38 GMT 1, They look great, i like the Scary.
They look great, i like the Scary.
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by neale on Jan 17, 2009 13:05:03 GMT 1, bloody hell...nice job!!!
bloody hell...nice job!!!
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by asabrush on Jan 17, 2009 13:47:31 GMT 1, top job,they look very well, Heres a frame I just made myself also. I'm lucky enough to have my own woodworking machines.Sourcing the conserv glass and mount board was the biggest pain for me.
top job,they look very well, Heres a frame I just made myself also. I'm lucky enough to have my own woodworking machines.Sourcing the conserv glass and mount board was the biggest pain for me. |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by cashman on Jan 17, 2009 13:50:44 GMT 1, your friends a wood machine ?
your friends a wood machine ?
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by funster on Jan 17, 2009 13:52:27 GMT 1, Great job. Nice collection too!
Great job. Nice collection too!
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by funyoung on Jan 17, 2009 19:52:20 GMT 1, Nice work Jamie B.
Hope they gave you a bulk discount on that white paint!
Nice work Jamie B.
Hope they gave you a bulk discount on that white paint!
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by elwheel on Jan 17, 2009 21:33:24 GMT 1, They look perfect Jamie and love the double mount on the Banksys - glad you got a SAS in the end  . How did you learn to do it - did you shadow someone or get a book on it or what?
They look perfect Jamie and love the double mount on the Banksys - glad you got a SAS in the end . How did you learn to do it - did you shadow someone or get a book on it or what? |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by Heavyconsumer on Jan 17, 2009 22:04:12 GMT 1, They look very professionally done on screen and to my untrained eye. Most impressive J.
They look very professionally done on screen and to my untrained eye. Most impressive J.
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by Zippy on Jan 18, 2009 0:30:36 GMT 1, Jamie,
good job on the prints. However, you are very brave to do this and wouldn't you rather get your Banksy's professionally framed so you know you dont have to worry in the future?
I understand framing normal pieces this way but I couldnt risk a signed banksy going in a 'home made' frame. This must be left to the experts!
Jamie,
good job on the prints. However, you are very brave to do this and wouldn't you rather get your Banksy's professionally framed so you know you dont have to worry in the future?
I understand framing normal pieces this way but I couldnt risk a signed banksy going in a 'home made' frame. This must be left to the experts!
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by cashman on Jan 18, 2009 0:34:45 GMT 1, Jamie, good job on the prints. However, you are very brave to do this and wouldn't you rather get your Banksy's professionally framed so you know you dont have to worry in the future? I understand framing normal pieces this way but I couldnt risk a signed banksy going in a 'home made' frame. This must be left to the experts!
been having the same discussion with a friend, at least the framers insured !
Jamie, good job on the prints. However, you are very brave to do this and wouldn't you rather get your Banksy's professionally framed so you know you dont have to worry in the future? I understand framing normal pieces this way but I couldnt risk a signed banksy going in a 'home made' frame. This must be left to the experts! been having the same discussion with a friend, at least the framers insured ! |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by jamieb on Jan 18, 2009 12:32:40 GMT 1, Jamie, good job on the prints. However, you are very brave to do this and wouldn't you rather get your Banksy's professionally framed so you know you dont have to worry in the future? I understand framing normal pieces this way but I couldnt risk a signed banksy going in a 'home made' frame. This must be left to the experts!
With respect I think this what framers want you to think. There is nothing "Home made" about these frames - the are made by a professional wood machinest and then painted in their factory. The mount board is conservation grade, with artbak conservation board behind it and the a further sheet of artbak mositure resistent board behind that.
It's all assembled using the same fixings and tapes that a framer uses. Nothing is attached to the print. It is held in place by PH neutral mylar strips which are attached to the backing board. It is all 100% reversible. TBH I'm happier knowing exactly how it's been done than getting a print back from a framer all sealed up not knowing what's happening behind the mount.
All the material were bought from Lion who are a very large trade supplier to framers and likely where a lot of framers buy their materials from.
I just don't see the risk. I understand this isn't for everyone but you shouldn't be frightened into not trying it.
j.
Jamie, good job on the prints. However, you are very brave to do this and wouldn't you rather get your Banksy's professionally framed so you know you dont have to worry in the future? I understand framing normal pieces this way but I couldnt risk a signed banksy going in a 'home made' frame. This must be left to the experts! With respect I think this what framers want you to think. There is nothing "Home made" about these frames - the are made by a professional wood machinest and then painted in their factory. The mount board is conservation grade, with artbak conservation board behind it and the a further sheet of artbak mositure resistent board behind that. It's all assembled using the same fixings and tapes that a framer uses. Nothing is attached to the print. It is held in place by PH neutral mylar strips which are attached to the backing board. It is all 100% reversible. TBH I'm happier knowing exactly how it's been done than getting a print back from a framer all sealed up not knowing what's happening behind the mount. All the material were bought from Lion who are a very large trade supplier to framers and likely where a lot of framers buy their materials from. I just don't see the risk. I understand this isn't for everyone but you shouldn't be frightened into not trying it. j. |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by curiousgeorge on Jan 18, 2009 12:36:37 GMT 1, In my experience all conservation grade materials are not equal, so much so it's a bit of a minefield out there talking to different suppliers about the products they carry.
Doing this at home and true Archival framing are MILES apart
That said well done for getting stuck in, and learning along the way. You must be feeling rather smug now (rightly so)
In my experience all conservation grade materials are not equal, so much so it's a bit of a minefield out there talking to different suppliers about the products they carry. Doing this at home and true Archival framing are MILES apart That said well done for getting stuck in, and learning along the way. You must be feeling rather smug now (rightly so) |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by jamieb on Jan 18, 2009 12:37:01 GMT 1, They look perfect Jamie and love the double mount on the Banksys - glad you got a SAS in the end . How did you learn to do it - did you shadow someone or get a book on it or what?
thanks, well chuffed to get one in the end. I just read a lot on the net, there are quite a lot of sites will good information for home or hobbiest framers. Then I just gave it a go, did the bast and the eine first. If you are going to window mount it is dead easy. Float mounting requires a little more thought.
They look perfect Jamie and love the double mount on the Banksys - glad you got a SAS in the end . How did you learn to do it - did you shadow someone or get a book on it or what? thanks, well chuffed to get one in the end. I just read a lot on the net, there are quite a lot of sites will good information for home or hobbiest framers. Then I just gave it a go, did the bast and the eine first. If you are going to window mount it is dead easy. Float mounting requires a little more thought. |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by darhart on Jan 18, 2009 13:18:56 GMT 1, Hi, can you tell me what size mylar corners you are using and where you got them from please?
Thanks.
(oh and nice job by the way)
Hi, can you tell me what size mylar corners you are using and where you got them from please?
Thanks.
(oh and nice job by the way)
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by jamieb on Jan 18, 2009 13:55:59 GMT 1, Doing this at home and true Archival framing are MILES apart
I agree, but I'm not claiming this to be museum or archival, but I've paid £250 for a similar size frame done to conservation standard.
I think people get a little carried away, it's not like it an original DeVinci drawing. It's a screen print on modern paper using up to date inks that are UV proof etc...
Conservation is fine.
Doing this at home and true Archival framing are MILES apart I agree, but I'm not claiming this to be museum or archival, but I've paid £250 for a similar size frame done to conservation standard. I think people get a little carried away, it's not like it an original DeVinci drawing. It's a screen print on modern paper using up to date inks that are UV proof etc... Conservation is fine. |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by deckstar on Jan 18, 2009 14:01:17 GMT 1, really want to get some stuff framed up sometime, where did you get the wood for the frames?
really want to get some stuff framed up sometime, where did you get the wood for the frames?
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by darhart on Jan 18, 2009 14:43:46 GMT 1,
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by curiousgeorge on Jan 18, 2009 15:52:29 GMT 1, Doing this at home and true Archival framing are MILES apart I agree, but I'm not claiming this to be museum or archival, but I've paid £250 for a similar size frame done to conservation standard. I think people get a little carried away, it's not like it an original DeVinci drawing. It's a screen print on modern paper using up to date inks that are UV proof etc... Conservation is fine.
Sorry mate did not mean it to come across that way, my point being different brands often use mis-leading descriptions. The backing board in question came up on another forum. It's only the white faced side that can be considered conservation, so with that in mind.... Many purists/decent framers would consider it not to be a conservation product at all
Doing this at home and true Archival framing are MILES apart I agree, but I'm not claiming this to be museum or archival, but I've paid £250 for a similar size frame done to conservation standard. I think people get a little carried away, it's not like it an original DeVinci drawing. It's a screen print on modern paper using up to date inks that are UV proof etc... Conservation is fine. Sorry mate did not mean it to come across that way, my point being different brands often use mis-leading descriptions. The backing board in question came up on another forum. It's only the white faced side that can be considered conservation, so with that in mind.... Many purists/decent framers would consider it not to be a conservation product at all |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 16:33:04 GMT 1, Jamie, good job on the prints. However, you are very brave to do this and wouldn't you rather get your Banksy's professionally framed so you know you dont have to worry in the future? I understand framing normal pieces this way but I couldnt risk a signed banksy going in a 'home made' frame. This must be left to the experts! With respect I think this what framers want you to think. There is nothing "Home made" about these frames - the are made by a professional wood machinest and then painted in their factory. The mount board is conservation grade, with artbak conservation board behind it and the a further sheet of artbak mositure resistent board behind that. It's all assembled using the same fixings and tapes that a framer uses. Nothing is attached to the print. It is held in place by PH neutral mylar strips which are attached to the backing board. It is all 100% reversible. TBH I'm happier knowing exactly how it's been done than getting a print back from a framer all sealed up not knowing what's happening behind the mount. All the material were bought from Lion who are a very large trade supplier to framers and likely where a lot of framers buy their materials from. I just don't see the risk. I understand this isn't for everyone but you shouldn't be frightened into not trying it. j.
i agree,and i will be framing most if not all of my art work, great job at the fraction of the cost, and like you said you know what went into the framing of the print.
Jamie, good job on the prints. However, you are very brave to do this and wouldn't you rather get your Banksy's professionally framed so you know you dont have to worry in the future? I understand framing normal pieces this way but I couldnt risk a signed banksy going in a 'home made' frame. This must be left to the experts! With respect I think this what framers want you to think. There is nothing "Home made" about these frames - the are made by a professional wood machinest and then painted in their factory. The mount board is conservation grade, with artbak conservation board behind it and the a further sheet of artbak mositure resistent board behind that. It's all assembled using the same fixings and tapes that a framer uses. Nothing is attached to the print. It is held in place by PH neutral mylar strips which are attached to the backing board. It is all 100% reversible. TBH I'm happier knowing exactly how it's been done than getting a print back from a framer all sealed up not knowing what's happening behind the mount. All the material were bought from Lion who are a very large trade supplier to framers and likely where a lot of framers buy their materials from. I just don't see the risk. I understand this isn't for everyone but you shouldn't be frightened into not trying it. j. i agree,and i will be framing most if not all of my art work, great job at the fraction of the cost, and like you said you know what went into the framing of the print. |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by Martin DK on Jan 18, 2009 22:53:58 GMT 1,
Im framing myself also, so completely agree what your saying in here.
I have these strips too, very easy to use, but my problem with them is that they take the mount board a bit to far away from the print - do you have that problem too?
Im framing myself also, so completely agree what your saying in here. I have these strips too, very easy to use, but my problem with them is that they take the mount board a bit to far away from the print - do you have that problem too? |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by cashman on Jan 19, 2009 2:07:44 GMT 1, My mum buys all the ingredients and follows all the steps in Jamie Olivers cook book....doesn't mean it tastes the same !
Jamie, good job on the prints. However, you are very brave to do this and wouldn't you rather get your Banksy's professionally framed so you know you dont have to worry in the future? I understand framing normal pieces this way but I couldnt risk a signed banksy going in a 'home made' frame. This must be left to the experts! With respect I think this what framers want you to think. There is nothing "Home made" about these frames - the are made by a professional wood machinest and then painted in their factory. The mount board is conservation grade, with artbak conservation board behind it and the a further sheet of artbak mositure resistent board behind that. It's all assembled using the same fixings and tapes that a framer uses. Nothing is attached to the print. It is held in place by PH neutral mylar strips which are attached to the backing board. It is all 100% reversible. TBH I'm happier knowing exactly how it's been done than getting a print back from a framer all sealed up not knowing what's happening behind the mount. All the material were bought from Lion who are a very large trade supplier to framers and likely where a lot of framers buy their materials from. I just don't see the risk. I understand this isn't for everyone but you shouldn't be frightened into not trying it. j.
My mum buys all the ingredients and follows all the steps in Jamie Olivers cook book....doesn't mean it tastes the same ! Jamie, good job on the prints. However, you are very brave to do this and wouldn't you rather get your Banksy's professionally framed so you know you dont have to worry in the future? I understand framing normal pieces this way but I couldnt risk a signed banksy going in a 'home made' frame. This must be left to the experts! With respect I think this what framers want you to think. There is nothing "Home made" about these frames - the are made by a professional wood machinest and then painted in their factory. The mount board is conservation grade, with artbak conservation board behind it and the a further sheet of artbak mositure resistent board behind that. It's all assembled using the same fixings and tapes that a framer uses. Nothing is attached to the print. It is held in place by PH neutral mylar strips which are attached to the backing board. It is all 100% reversible. TBH I'm happier knowing exactly how it's been done than getting a print back from a framer all sealed up not knowing what's happening behind the mount. All the material were bought from Lion who are a very large trade supplier to framers and likely where a lot of framers buy their materials from. I just don't see the risk. I understand this isn't for everyone but you shouldn't be frightened into not trying it. j. |
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Home Framing - save some cash - Banksy content, by jamieb on Jan 19, 2009 9:43:36 GMT 1, My mum buys all the ingredients and follows all the steps in Jamie Olivers cook book....doesn't mean it tastes the same !
maybe she's a crap cook then, works for me
My mum buys all the ingredients and follows all the steps in Jamie Olivers cook book....doesn't mean it tastes the same ! maybe she's a crap cook then, works for me |
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So is the S&S yours? really like the subtle blue mount on that one and the VLH is really sweet! Nice one!
. How did you learn to do it - did you shadow someone or get a book on it or what?
