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Framing Pictures, by alvington89 on Oct 26, 2006 11:48:10 GMT 1, Thinking about getting my DFace 'Dog Save the Queen' framed and want to dit it right!
What's the best way of framing pictures? With a surround or not?
UV Glass I guess but not sure about using the PH7-70 tape to secure it at the back if using a surround. Is it best to keep it simple? - ie: silver aluminium or timber frame or to go OTT with big relief detail in the frame.
Any views/advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
Thinking about getting my DFace 'Dog Save the Queen' framed and want to dit it right!
What's the best way of framing pictures? With a surround or not?
UV Glass I guess but not sure about using the PH7-70 tape to secure it at the back if using a surround. Is it best to keep it simple? - ie: silver aluminium or timber frame or to go OTT with big relief detail in the frame.
Any views/advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
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Framing Pictures, by HowAboutNo on Oct 26, 2006 15:31:55 GMT 1, Thinking about getting my DFace 'Dog Save the Queen' framed and want to dit it right! What's the best way of framing pictures? With a surround or not? UV Glass I guess but not sure about using the PH7-70 tape to secure it at the back if using a surround. Is it best to keep it simple? - ie: silver aluminium or timber frame or to go OTT with big relief detail in the frame. Any views/advice would be appreciated. Cheers
My advice?? Read the section about framing pictures perhaps??
Sorry, just being like a disgruntled tour guide now....."and on your left we have the city wall"
LOOK AROUND BEFORE POSTING A QUESTION THATS BEEN ASKED A TRILLION TIMES PREVIOUS.
Thank you, have a nice day y'all.
Thinking about getting my DFace 'Dog Save the Queen' framed and want to dit it right! What's the best way of framing pictures? With a surround or not? UV Glass I guess but not sure about using the PH7-70 tape to secure it at the back if using a surround. Is it best to keep it simple? - ie: silver aluminium or timber frame or to go OTT with big relief detail in the frame. Any views/advice would be appreciated. Cheers My advice?? Read the section about framing pictures perhaps?? Sorry, just being like a disgruntled tour guide now....."and on your left we have the city wall" LOOK AROUND BEFORE POSTING A QUESTION THATS BEEN ASKED A TRILLION TIMES PREVIOUS. Thank you, have a nice day y'all.
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Framing Pictures, by alvington89 on Oct 26, 2006 17:41:41 GMT 1, Thanks for that.
This is the best advice I could find (see below) but doesn't have any specific info relating to the use of PH-70 conservation archival tape to fix rear top edge of paper to rear mount board.
Dear All, Just thought that I would add some info to this section because as well as being a Banksy fan / collector I am also a picture framer and run my own framing business in Whitstable, Kent. I have been framing for a number of years and have to date framed between 25-30 different Banksy images. The first thing that I would say to anyone with a Banksy print that they wish to frame is that if you can't afford to frame it properly, then don't frame it and wait until you can afford it! Having something framed professionally needn't cost the earth, whilst framing something poorly can cause long-term damage which may be impossible to fix. Let me explain: Paper is a material which is grealty affected by various elements such as light, heat and moisture, and if your print is not protected from these elements then it is at risk of being damaged. So you've bought your £75 print and you go into the framers and they quote you more than that to frame it, 'F**k O**' you think given that the print cost you less than that, but hold on a minute that £75 print could easily be worth £500 in a couple of years time so is it such a bad idea paying for a decent framing job? You wouldn't by yourself a new BMW coupe and then take it round to honest John under the arches would you? The first thing with the framing of any screen print is to make sure that it's kept away from the glass, this should be done using a mount (piece of card with a window or aperture cut out of it) although if you don't want a mount a fillet could be placed round the edge of the frame, in between the glass and the image - just like a spacer. Standard mountboard can contain acids, and over time these acids can bleed into the artwork and cause damage, this can often be seen in old prints by what looks like blotching. A way to eliminate the risk of acids is to use Conservation mountboard, this is board where the acids have been removed so that the board is pure. Please be aware that in mountboards which are 'PH Neutral' it is still possible for acids to return over time and so always stipulate that you want conservation board. Clip frames should never be used to frame screen prints, the clips that are used to hold the frames together place an un-even pressure on to the image and over time this can cause the image to ripple - if this happens it may be impossible to get the creases/ripples out of a print. Nielsen or Aluminium frames are fine as long as they are sealed at the back, the back of a frame must always be sealed, usually with tape, so as to prevent bugs and dust from entering into a frame. IF THUNDER FLIES GET INTO YOUR FRAME AND ARE SQUASHED BETWEEN THE GLASS AND THE IMAGE THEN THEY WILL STAIN YOUR IMAGE PERMANENTLY! You might also want to consider using glass which protects your image from ultra-violet light, there are many glass products available to framers now which block out 98+% of 'UV' rays and the prices of these products are coming down all the time. Please note that 'Diffused' or 'Non-reflective Glass' offers no protection from UV light. The best advice I can give you is to find a framer who is prepared to spend some time with you, tell them your budget and see what they can do for you. Prices will vary massively around the country but as a guide I will mount and frame a Jack & Jill with a 2-3 inch mount and in a 1 and a half inch black frame for about £55, for the same print with a much better frame, conservation materials and UV protective glass your looking at £90-100. Remember that you're only going to frame your print once so you want to frame it right! For any further advice please feel free to mail me, please only ring the shop if you really have to. Hope that the above information is helpful! Ben
Thanks for that.
This is the best advice I could find (see below) but doesn't have any specific info relating to the use of PH-70 conservation archival tape to fix rear top edge of paper to rear mount board.
Dear All, Just thought that I would add some info to this section because as well as being a Banksy fan / collector I am also a picture framer and run my own framing business in Whitstable, Kent. I have been framing for a number of years and have to date framed between 25-30 different Banksy images. The first thing that I would say to anyone with a Banksy print that they wish to frame is that if you can't afford to frame it properly, then don't frame it and wait until you can afford it! Having something framed professionally needn't cost the earth, whilst framing something poorly can cause long-term damage which may be impossible to fix. Let me explain: Paper is a material which is grealty affected by various elements such as light, heat and moisture, and if your print is not protected from these elements then it is at risk of being damaged. So you've bought your £75 print and you go into the framers and they quote you more than that to frame it, 'F**k O**' you think given that the print cost you less than that, but hold on a minute that £75 print could easily be worth £500 in a couple of years time so is it such a bad idea paying for a decent framing job? You wouldn't by yourself a new BMW coupe and then take it round to honest John under the arches would you? The first thing with the framing of any screen print is to make sure that it's kept away from the glass, this should be done using a mount (piece of card with a window or aperture cut out of it) although if you don't want a mount a fillet could be placed round the edge of the frame, in between the glass and the image - just like a spacer. Standard mountboard can contain acids, and over time these acids can bleed into the artwork and cause damage, this can often be seen in old prints by what looks like blotching. A way to eliminate the risk of acids is to use Conservation mountboard, this is board where the acids have been removed so that the board is pure. Please be aware that in mountboards which are 'PH Neutral' it is still possible for acids to return over time and so always stipulate that you want conservation board. Clip frames should never be used to frame screen prints, the clips that are used to hold the frames together place an un-even pressure on to the image and over time this can cause the image to ripple - if this happens it may be impossible to get the creases/ripples out of a print. Nielsen or Aluminium frames are fine as long as they are sealed at the back, the back of a frame must always be sealed, usually with tape, so as to prevent bugs and dust from entering into a frame. IF THUNDER FLIES GET INTO YOUR FRAME AND ARE SQUASHED BETWEEN THE GLASS AND THE IMAGE THEN THEY WILL STAIN YOUR IMAGE PERMANENTLY! You might also want to consider using glass which protects your image from ultra-violet light, there are many glass products available to framers now which block out 98+% of 'UV' rays and the prices of these products are coming down all the time. Please note that 'Diffused' or 'Non-reflective Glass' offers no protection from UV light. The best advice I can give you is to find a framer who is prepared to spend some time with you, tell them your budget and see what they can do for you. Prices will vary massively around the country but as a guide I will mount and frame a Jack & Jill with a 2-3 inch mount and in a 1 and a half inch black frame for about £55, for the same print with a much better frame, conservation materials and UV protective glass your looking at £90-100. Remember that you're only going to frame your print once so you want to frame it right! For any further advice please feel free to mail me, please only ring the shop if you really have to. Hope that the above information is helpful! Ben
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Framing Pictures, by bristolmassive on Nov 21, 2006 17:13:52 GMT 1, Hi all - first post so please be gentle I'd really like to know how best to attach the actual print to a mount within the frame. I've bought a couple of really nice oversize wooden frames but really don't want to use have to use masking tape or such like to hold the print and mount together. Am I best taking my frames and prints to a pro framer??
Apologies if this has been discussed somewhere else.
Thanks in advance.
Hi all - first post so please be gentle I'd really like to know how best to attach the actual print to a mount within the frame. I've bought a couple of really nice oversize wooden frames but really don't want to use have to use masking tape or such like to hold the print and mount together. Am I best taking my frames and prints to a pro framer?? Apologies if this has been discussed somewhere else. Thanks in advance.
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Framing Pictures, by thwaites on Nov 21, 2006 17:26:59 GMT 1, Hi all - first post so please be gentle I'd really like to know how best to attach the actual print to a mount within the frame. I've bought a couple of really nice oversize wooden frames but really don't want to use have to use masking tape or such like to hold the print and mount together. Am I best taking my frames and prints to a pro framer?? Apologies if this has been discussed somewhere else. Thanks in advance.
To attach a print to mountboard safely the best tape to use is conservation tape.. any good framers will stock it so you could buy a roll, or just ask them to cut you the length of tape you need.. which im sure they will do if they are decent!
Hi all - first post so please be gentle I'd really like to know how best to attach the actual print to a mount within the frame. I've bought a couple of really nice oversize wooden frames but really don't want to use have to use masking tape or such like to hold the print and mount together. Am I best taking my frames and prints to a pro framer?? Apologies if this has been discussed somewhere else. Thanks in advance. To attach a print to mountboard safely the best tape to use is conservation tape.. any good framers will stock it so you could buy a roll, or just ask them to cut you the length of tape you need.. which im sure they will do if they are decent!
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Framing Pictures, by pastiepie on Nov 22, 2006 1:31:04 GMT 1, You should take it to a framers and get it done right, If you really dont have any idea about framing (like myself) I figure it's better to let a pro do the job right and then be able to sleep easy knowing your print is safe and secure in its new frame.
You should take it to a framers and get it done right, If you really dont have any idea about framing (like myself) I figure it's better to let a pro do the job right and then be able to sleep easy knowing your print is safe and secure in its new frame.
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Framing Pictures, by bristolmassive on Nov 22, 2006 10:52:29 GMT 1, yeah thanks you're probably right. Although I've seen pics of peoples prints on here in Nielsen frames with mounts that they've obviously put together themselves. I'd also like the ability to easily change one print for another as I have quite a few different 500x700 prints. Decisions decisions! Wonder if this stuff comes off easily?....www.stix2.co.uk/erol.html#422x450
yeah thanks you're probably right. Although I've seen pics of peoples prints on here in Nielsen frames with mounts that they've obviously put together themselves. I'd also like the ability to easily change one print for another as I have quite a few different 500x700 prints. Decisions decisions! Wonder if this stuff comes off easily?.... www.stix2.co.uk/erol.html#422x450
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