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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by Daniel Silk on Apr 4, 2008 15:06:07 GMT 1, A good picture should make people talk, and raise issues and its certainly doing that ;D no doubt!
Maybe its not meant so much to be a message about whatever! But just to get everyone talking? to ask questions?
A good picture should make people talk, and raise issues and its certainly doing that ;D no doubt! Maybe its not meant so much to be a message about whatever! But just to get everyone talking? to ask questions?
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by pezlow on Apr 4, 2008 15:06:34 GMT 1, Perhaps other arabic speakers could help with the translation of the words. If it does mean "god save the queen" then I am totally in agreement with bobbydazzle's very thoughtful post. I have to say that it also disturbs me that a gallery such as TLSG, who is supposed to be at the forefront of a new art movement which challenges popularly held political views in this country, can allow itself to sell images of this nature.
Perhaps other arabic speakers could help with the translation of the words. If it does mean "god save the queen" then I am totally in agreement with bobbydazzle's very thoughtful post. I have to say that it also disturbs me that a gallery such as TLSG, who is supposed to be at the forefront of a new art movement which challenges popularly held political views in this country, can allow itself to sell images of this nature.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by menace2sobriety on Apr 4, 2008 15:08:07 GMT 1, just an interesting fact, when they first came to TLSG at the Beejoir exhibition, Kguy was talking with James showing him the piece, I came over and had a look. He told James that the writing in Arabic said Peace love and unity and thats what the piece was about, my girlfriend who studied Arabic translated it to God save the queen, K guy said he had it translated on a website and they must have got it wrong, sounds a bit far fetched especially as it translated it to god save the queen which fits with the image. Anyway I have no problem people expressing themselves and tackling controversial issues, but to what I can only assume was a blatant lie, brings in to question the meaning of the piece even more. If the goal and motivation wa peace and social harmony as K-Guy explained then I believe this is at least a very naive and cock handed way of getting that message across (I don't know if the writing has now been changed) I agree totally with Pezlow that the islamification of Britain is a widely spread myth, unless of course you read and believe the scaremongering lies of the Right wing press and political party's. This piece is just too heavy handed and plays into the fear driven society that we live in, good art should challenge these lies, this for me is just another chink in the amour of the dark knights which demonise the Muslim community. The biggest problem is Islamaphobia not Islamification Racism is a tool used to divide and rule, in order to enslave black people, people had to invent the myth that Black people were sub human, so we could excuse ourselfs for treating them in such way, the same imply's to today. The rise of islamaphobia demonising a community by provoking fear serves the warlords in there quest to bomb and rob the resources of the middle east.
good post - couldnt agree more
just an interesting fact, when they first came to TLSG at the Beejoir exhibition, Kguy was talking with James showing him the piece, I came over and had a look. He told James that the writing in Arabic said Peace love and unity and thats what the piece was about, my girlfriend who studied Arabic translated it to God save the queen, K guy said he had it translated on a website and they must have got it wrong, sounds a bit far fetched especially as it translated it to god save the queen which fits with the image. Anyway I have no problem people expressing themselves and tackling controversial issues, but to what I can only assume was a blatant lie, brings in to question the meaning of the piece even more. If the goal and motivation wa peace and social harmony as K-Guy explained then I believe this is at least a very naive and cock handed way of getting that message across (I don't know if the writing has now been changed) I agree totally with Pezlow that the islamification of Britain is a widely spread myth, unless of course you read and believe the scaremongering lies of the Right wing press and political party's. This piece is just too heavy handed and plays into the fear driven society that we live in, good art should challenge these lies, this for me is just another chink in the amour of the dark knights which demonise the Muslim community. The biggest problem is Islamaphobia not Islamification Racism is a tool used to divide and rule, in order to enslave black people, people had to invent the myth that Black people were sub human, so we could excuse ourselfs for treating them in such way, the same imply's to today. The rise of islamaphobia demonising a community by provoking fear serves the warlords in there quest to bomb and rob the resources of the middle east. good post - couldnt agree more
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by Daniel Silk on Apr 4, 2008 15:10:06 GMT 1, Perhaps other arabic speakers could help with the translation of the words. If it does mean "god save the queen" then I am totally in agreement with bobbydazzle's very thoughtful post. I have to say that it also disturbs me that a gallery such as TLSG, who is supposed to be at the forefront of a new art movement which challenges popularly held political views in this country, can allow itself to sell images of this nature.
I think your getting it the wrong way round Pez Is the image not asking you to question or "challenge popularly held political views in this country"? It all depends on the direction you look at the piece from.
Perhaps other arabic speakers could help with the translation of the words. If it does mean "god save the queen" then I am totally in agreement with bobbydazzle's very thoughtful post. I have to say that it also disturbs me that a gallery such as TLSG, who is supposed to be at the forefront of a new art movement which challenges popularly held political views in this country, can allow itself to sell images of this nature. I think your getting it the wrong way round Pez Is the image not asking you to question or "challenge popularly held political views in this country"? It all depends on the direction you look at the piece from.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by pezlow on Apr 4, 2008 15:14:00 GMT 1, You might be right Silky. I note from Rattus' post that Kguy has pasted these up in and around brick lane and therefore his intention may well have been what you have inferred. It does, however, have the potential to be misunderstood in the way that myself and other on this thread have misunderstood it though.
Oh and as a peice of art, for all those reasons, I really really struggle to understand who in their right minds would want to buy this, let alone put it up on their wall.
You might be right Silky. I note from Rattus' post that Kguy has pasted these up in and around brick lane and therefore his intention may well have been what you have inferred. It does, however, have the potential to be misunderstood in the way that myself and other on this thread have misunderstood it though.
Oh and as a peice of art, for all those reasons, I really really struggle to understand who in their right minds would want to buy this, let alone put it up on their wall.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by manchestermike on Apr 4, 2008 15:14:32 GMT 1, I'm all for discussing sensitive issues. I'm not sure this is the best way to raise such things. If we want to discuss the UK's involvement in Iraq do we dress the Queen up as a commando and give her a gun?? Actually that would make a great print ;D
Why not:
I'm all for discussing sensitive issues. I'm not sure this is the best way to raise such things. If we want to discuss the UK's involvement in Iraq do we dress the Queen up as a commando and give her a gun?? Actually that would make a great print ;D Why not:
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by Daniel Silk on Apr 4, 2008 15:18:37 GMT 1, You might be right Silky. I note from Rattus' post that Kguy has pasted these up in and around brick lane and therefore his intention may well have been what you have inferred. It does, however, have the potential to be misunderstood in the way that myself and other on this thread have misunderstood it though. Oh and as a peice of art, for all those reasons, I really really struggle to understand who in their right minds would want to buy this, let alone put it up on their wall.
Yeah, I should think a big percentage of the population could take the image the wrong way and get pretty angry about it
Just the sort of art I love ;D
BTW I was just thinking if Cauty might have done an image along a similar vain at some point?
You might be right Silky. I note from Rattus' post that Kguy has pasted these up in and around brick lane and therefore his intention may well have been what you have inferred. It does, however, have the potential to be misunderstood in the way that myself and other on this thread have misunderstood it though. Oh and as a peice of art, for all those reasons, I really really struggle to understand who in their right minds would want to buy this, let alone put it up on their wall. Yeah, I should think a big percentage of the population could take the image the wrong way and get pretty angry about it Just the sort of art I love ;D BTW I was just thinking if Cauty might have done an image along a similar vain at some point?
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by AxB on Apr 4, 2008 15:18:56 GMT 1, i think the truth of the matter is your good folks are probably putting more thought into the picture than kguy did. i would wager he didnt really know what it 'represented' when he made it...a 'subverted' image of the queen is hardly groundbreaking....but it still sells....to give it a modern seemingly political spin well how about you stick her in one of those islamic rain mac things and make it look like a reference to current polemics....and he presto you have a piece of cutting edge street art....all you have to do now is stick it up around old street a few weeks before you release it for sale...which is surely viral advertising not art....and hey you have a product in demand.....sell it through a hip gallery which probably cares as much about politics or street art as it does about the clothing expo's or corporate sales pitches it also hosts.....job done... all you need now is a bunch of pseudo-political boardroom radicals to come along and snap them up... are they sold out yet ?
i think the truth of the matter is your good folks are probably putting more thought into the picture than kguy did. i would wager he didnt really know what it 'represented' when he made it...a 'subverted' image of the queen is hardly groundbreaking....but it still sells....to give it a modern seemingly political spin well how about you stick her in one of those islamic rain mac things and make it look like a reference to current polemics....and he presto you have a piece of cutting edge street art....all you have to do now is stick it up around old street a few weeks before you release it for sale...which is surely viral advertising not art....and hey you have a product in demand.....sell it through a hip gallery which probably cares as much about politics or street art as it does about the clothing expo's or corporate sales pitches it also hosts.....job done... all you need now is a bunch of pseudo-political boardroom radicals to come along and snap them up... are they sold out yet ?
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by spirit on Apr 4, 2008 15:25:02 GMT 1, I'm all for discussing sensitive issues. I'm not sure this is the best way to raise such things. If we want to discuss the UK's involvement in Iraq do we dress the Queen up as a commando and give her a gun?? Actually that would make a great print ;D Why not:
classic! _ I want one!
I'm all for discussing sensitive issues. I'm not sure this is the best way to raise such things. If we want to discuss the UK's involvement in Iraq do we dress the Queen up as a commando and give her a gun?? Actually that would make a great print ;D Why not: classic! _ I want one!
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by spirit on Apr 4, 2008 15:38:56 GMT 1, Bobbydazzle's post about what K-Guy said the arabic writing meant was certainly interesting. I wonder why he would lie about it?
I think art can simply raise questions/issues without necessarly answering/making judgements about them. I don't think this piece is all about peace love and unity but nor is it a condemnation of muslims in Britain. I think it just raises the issue and promotes discussion which is surely what good art is supposed to do.
Also, as Islam is a religion I am not sure that islamophobia is actually racist. Is racism not a dislike/hatred of people who are of a different race than you? Maybe it's Xenophobic or Religionist (is that a word?). Muslims after all, like christians or believers in any other religious creed, can be of any race.
Bobbydazzle's post about what K-Guy said the arabic writing meant was certainly interesting. I wonder why he would lie about it?
I think art can simply raise questions/issues without necessarly answering/making judgements about them. I don't think this piece is all about peace love and unity but nor is it a condemnation of muslims in Britain. I think it just raises the issue and promotes discussion which is surely what good art is supposed to do.
Also, as Islam is a religion I am not sure that islamophobia is actually racist. Is racism not a dislike/hatred of people who are of a different race than you? Maybe it's Xenophobic or Religionist (is that a word?). Muslims after all, like christians or believers in any other religious creed, can be of any race.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by dotdot on Apr 4, 2008 15:39:01 GMT 1, another interesting thread. K guy does have a few interesting insights into what exactly the message is - the question is - how does the viewer interpret it.
Now if certain viewers can READ it - then their interpretation may then be different to those can't read it.
It certainly appears that what was described to TLSG was different to what it actually say - not that i can read it btw.
Wrt the original interpreted message - then no it won't be one for my collection.
Agitation and provocation - as others have said is fine generally - within the bounds of 'the viewer'. Alas this one is not for me. (up / down there - with beejoirs latest questionable attempt).
bobby - interesting read.
oh and manchestermike - me likewise.
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another interesting thread. K guy does have a few interesting insights into what exactly the message is - the question is - how does the viewer interpret it.
Now if certain viewers can READ it - then their interpretation may then be different to those can't read it.
It certainly appears that what was described to TLSG was different to what it actually say - not that i can read it btw.
Wrt the original interpreted message - then no it won't be one for my collection.
Agitation and provocation - as others have said is fine generally - within the bounds of 'the viewer'. Alas this one is not for me. (up / down there - with beejoirs latest questionable attempt).
bobby - interesting read.
oh and manchestermike - me likewise.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by bobbydazzle on Apr 4, 2008 15:50:30 GMT 1, Also, as Islam is a religion I am not sure that islamophobia is actually racist. Is racism not a dislike/hatred of people who are of a different race than you? Maybe it's Xenophobic or Religionist (is that a word?). Muslims after all, like christians or believers in any other religious creed, can be of any race.
Racism the word is merely semiotics, race, creed, colour, religion, sex, can all be vilified and demoised, islamaphobia is a form of such prejudice, it is no less/no more worse than racism against someone regarding there colour of there skin, see the Nazis and there treatment and scapegoating of the Jewish religion. It is a tool of division that should be challenged not pandered to.
Also, as Islam is a religion I am not sure that islamophobia is actually racist. Is racism not a dislike/hatred of people who are of a different race than you? Maybe it's Xenophobic or Religionist (is that a word?). Muslims after all, like christians or believers in any other religious creed, can be of any race. Racism the word is merely semiotics, race, creed, colour, religion, sex, can all be vilified and demoised, islamaphobia is a form of such prejudice, it is no less/no more worse than racism against someone regarding there colour of there skin, see the Nazis and there treatment and scapegoating of the Jewish religion. It is a tool of division that should be challenged not pandered to.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by spirit on Apr 4, 2008 15:57:15 GMT 1, Also, as Islam is a religion I am not sure that islamophobia is actually racist. Is racism not a dislike/hatred of people who are of a different race than you? Maybe it's Xenophobic or Religionist (is that a word?). Muslims after all, like christians or believers in any other religious creed, can be of any race. Racism the word is merely semiotics, race, creed, colour, religion, sex, can all be vilified and demoised, islamaphobia is a form of such prejudice, it is no less/no more worse than racism against someone regarding there colour of there skin, see the Nazis and there treatment and scapegoating of the Jewish religion. It is a tool of division that should be challenged not pandered to.
I agree. I wasn't suggesting that because it wasn't racist it made it any better. I was just trying to be accurate. It is still prejudice.
Also, as Islam is a religion I am not sure that islamophobia is actually racist. Is racism not a dislike/hatred of people who are of a different race than you? Maybe it's Xenophobic or Religionist (is that a word?). Muslims after all, like christians or believers in any other religious creed, can be of any race. Racism the word is merely semiotics, race, creed, colour, religion, sex, can all be vilified and demoised, islamaphobia is a form of such prejudice, it is no less/no more worse than racism against someone regarding there colour of there skin, see the Nazis and there treatment and scapegoating of the Jewish religion. It is a tool of division that should be challenged not pandered to. I agree. I wasn't suggesting that because it wasn't racist it made it any better. I was just trying to be accurate. It is still prejudice.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by dotdot on Apr 4, 2008 16:12:05 GMT 1, Also, as Islam is a religion I am not sure that islamophobia is actually racist. Is racism not a dislike/hatred of people who are of a different race than you? Maybe it's Xenophobic or Religionist (is that a word?). Muslims after all, like christians or believers in any other religious creed, can be of any race. Racism the word is merely semiotics, race, creed, colour, religion, sex, can all be vilified and demoised, islamaphobia is a form of such prejudice, it is no less/no more worse than racism against someone regarding there colour of there skin, see the Nazis and there treatment and scapegoating of the Jewish religion. It is a tool of division that should be challenged not pandered to.
Agreed - it is again how these issue are presented to us / society - which will determine how society deal with the issues.
Don't forget the establishment has a role (!) here....
If you read the mail you could think X if you read the sun you may not think blah blah ...
if you bought x print - you think y ... (we've all been there !)
Take BRASS EYE - (don't all choke please) - Mr Morris stubbed then kicked the issues till it got messy - point made he left the scene (visually) - a form of situationist on the telly no less...
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Also, as Islam is a religion I am not sure that islamophobia is actually racist. Is racism not a dislike/hatred of people who are of a different race than you? Maybe it's Xenophobic or Religionist (is that a word?). Muslims after all, like christians or believers in any other religious creed, can be of any race. Racism the word is merely semiotics, race, creed, colour, religion, sex, can all be vilified and demoised, islamaphobia is a form of such prejudice, it is no less/no more worse than racism against someone regarding there colour of there skin, see the Nazis and there treatment and scapegoating of the Jewish religion. It is a tool of division that should be challenged not pandered to. Agreed - it is again how these issue are presented to us / society - which will determine how society deal with the issues. Don't forget the establishment has a role (!) here.... If you read the mail you could think X if you read the sun you may not think blah blah ... if you bought x print - you think y ... (we've all been there !) Take BRASS EYE - (don't all choke please) - Mr Morris stubbed then kicked the issues till it got messy - point made he left the scene (visually) - a form of situationist on the telly no less... ..
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by Daniel Silk on Apr 4, 2008 17:18:14 GMT 1, Cant get on Leonard Street Gallery's website Is it the same for everyone?
Cant get on Leonard Street Gallery's website Is it the same for everyone?
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by onemandown72 on Apr 4, 2008 18:08:59 GMT 1, Ring them and they'll sort out whatever print you are after 020 7033 9977.
Seen them earlier on today, very good in the flesh, quality of printing and paper used fantastic.
Ring them and they'll sort out whatever print you are after 020 7033 9977.
Seen them earlier on today, very good in the flesh, quality of printing and paper used fantastic.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by holden on Apr 4, 2008 23:00:15 GMT 1, I'm all for discussing sensitive issues. I'm not sure this is the best way to raise such things. If we want to discuss the UK's involvement in Iraq do we dress the Queen up as a commando and give her a gun?? Actually that would make a great print ;D Why not:
Good work, like it, like it a lot Any diamond dust?? ;D
I'm all for discussing sensitive issues. I'm not sure this is the best way to raise such things. If we want to discuss the UK's involvement in Iraq do we dress the Queen up as a commando and give her a gun?? Actually that would make a great print ;D Why not: Good work, like it, like it a lot Any diamond dust?? ;D
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by spenie1975 on Apr 5, 2008 0:01:39 GMT 1, I like to see the union jack, I don't see myself as a racist for that. I remember Morrissey taking the flak for waving a union jack, seems like you can't be proud to be British. Not talking about the BNP and such like but it sort of feels you have to be ashamed of your heritage. I remember when I was proud to feel British, now all decisions have been taken from or hands you don't feel that. Waving the flag seems racist, but by our own people and not people coming into our country. We seem to want to please to many people, but not the ones that can make a difference.
I like to see the union jack, I don't see myself as a racist for that. I remember Morrissey taking the flak for waving a union jack, seems like you can't be proud to be British. Not talking about the BNP and such like but it sort of feels you have to be ashamed of your heritage. I remember when I was proud to feel British, now all decisions have been taken from or hands you don't feel that. Waving the flag seems racist, but by our own people and not people coming into our country. We seem to want to please to many people, but not the ones that can make a difference.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by kahuna on Apr 5, 2008 0:06:04 GMT 1, Just ordered my Silver Lizlam with the two "poop boys". US Customs as sure going to be confused when those items are screened.
Just ordered my Silver Lizlam with the two "poop boys". US Customs as sure going to be confused when those items are screened.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by mocksy on Apr 5, 2008 0:47:57 GMT 1, Gold edition now sold out
Gold edition now sold out
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by Toykio on Apr 5, 2008 1:11:31 GMT 1, i wonder why they lasted that long! silver is next!
i wonder why they lasted that long! silver is next!
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by Montubu7 on Apr 5, 2008 1:15:45 GMT 1,
Thats the gold lv beejoir link, i think the post refers to the gold kguy print.
Thats the gold lv beejoir link, i think the post refers to the gold kguy print.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by giiiant on Apr 5, 2008 1:21:52 GMT 1, Thats the gold lv beejoir link, i think the post refers to the gold kguy print.
Dammit, time to sleep
Thats the gold lv beejoir link, i think the post refers to the gold kguy print. Dammit, time to sleep
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by Richard on Apr 6, 2008 18:54:55 GMT 1, I've had a couple of messages asking for the price I am after:
To be honest - I have no idea of it's worth as only one I think has been sold on eBay for ยฃ210 a few months ago.
If I knew the value I would have just said ยฃX first person gets it.
So could people send there best offers if you are interested in the print.
As I said, it's stunning in real life - but I have the opportunity to buy a Banksy and don't want to miss out!
Thanks.
I've had a couple of messages asking for the price I am after:
To be honest - I have no idea of it's worth as only one I think has been sold on eBay for ยฃ210 a few months ago.
If I knew the value I would have just said ยฃX first person gets it.
So could people send there best offers if you are interested in the print.
As I said, it's stunning in real life - but I have the opportunity to buy a Banksy and don't want to miss out!
Thanks.
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by tmccarthy41 on Apr 6, 2008 19:24:57 GMT 1, dude you aren't going to get anything near enough for a Banksy
dude you aren't going to get anything near enough for a Banksy
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by Richard on Apr 6, 2008 19:30:26 GMT 1, Hence why I said "put the money towards a Banksy".
Hence why I said "put the money towards a Banksy".
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by Francis on Apr 6, 2008 19:39:00 GMT 1, What proof do you have that you won't use the money you get from this towards alcohol or candy or petrol instead of a Banksy?
What proof do you have that you won't use the money you get from this towards alcohol or candy or petrol instead of a Banksy?
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by Richard on Apr 6, 2008 20:19:24 GMT 1, What proof do you have that you won't use the money you get from this towards alcohol or candy or petrol instead of a Banksy?
I would rather have another Banksy than food or drink. You have my word! ;D
What proof do you have that you won't use the money you get from this towards alcohol or candy or petrol instead of a Banksy? I would rather have another Banksy than food or drink. You have my word! ;D
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K-Guy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release โข For Sale, by mocksy on Apr 6, 2008 21:30:17 GMT 1, I like this print but i do like the new release on TLSG better. These were limited to 25 each @ ยฃ100.00 whereas this was a release of 35 @ ยฃ125.00.
I think the value would be a little more than cost but not much more.
I value it at around ยฃ150.00 - ยฃ200.00 but i may be wrong.
I like this print but i do like the new release on TLSG better. These were limited to 25 each @ ยฃ100.00 whereas this was a release of 35 @ ยฃ125.00.
I think the value would be a little more than cost but not much more.
I value it at around ยฃ150.00 - ยฃ200.00 but i may be wrong.
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