bill
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by bill on Jan 18, 2008 3:39:33 GMT 1, Wasn't it the Tate that is very short on money to make any acquisitions right now. If I do recall correctly Hirst just donated a couple of paintings to them because they couldn't afford to buy any.
Wasn't it the Tate that is very short on money to make any acquisitions right now. If I do recall correctly Hirst just donated a couple of paintings to them because they couldn't afford to buy any.
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by jam on Jan 18, 2008 6:34:32 GMT 1, Wasn't it the Tate that is very short on money to make any acquisitions right now. If I do recall correctly Hirst just donated a couple of paintings to them because they couldn't afford to buy any.
Superb gesture if thats fact.
Note to self: Message Damien and let him know I too am low on funds for acquisition of original Hirst pieces, perhaps he will donate one to me as well!  ;D
Wasn't it the Tate that is very short on money to make any acquisitions right now. If I do recall correctly Hirst just donated a couple of paintings to them because they couldn't afford to buy any. Superb gesture if thats fact. Note to self: Message Damien and let him know I too am low on funds for acquisition of original Hirst pieces, perhaps he will donate one to me as well! ;D |
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by patrese on Jan 18, 2008 23:11:59 GMT 1, definitely a collaboration. wouldn't be surprised to see this fetch close to 1m usd
definitely a collaboration. wouldn't be surprised to see this fetch close to 1m usd
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by cubrik on May 21, 2008 23:19:33 GMT 1, i thought it would be interseting to debate how relevant Damian Hirst is compared to Banksy
i thought it would be interseting to debate how relevant Damian Hirst is compared to Banksy
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by Billy Sport on May 21, 2008 23:28:16 GMT 1, theres only one way to decide this ....... FIGHT!!!!!!
theres only one way to decide this ....... FIGHT!!!!!!
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by slowmo on May 21, 2008 23:33:18 GMT 1, Its Hirst for me, guy is a genius, respect to him for introducing the punk ethic in art running rampant now through freeze.
Its Hirst for me, guy is a genius, respect to him for introducing the punk ethic in art running rampant now through freeze.
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by felix on May 21, 2008 23:41:51 GMT 1, 
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by jB on May 21, 2008 23:45:15 GMT 1, that napalm is massive!
that napalm is massive!
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by sausageboonwee on May 21, 2008 23:47:31 GMT 1, That zebra is flirting with Hirst
That zebra is flirting with Hirst
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by jam on May 21, 2008 23:53:32 GMT 1,
He's got a good eye for art. That Banksy is a great piece, and the Michael Joo is no slouch either.
He's got a good eye for art. That Banksy is a great piece, and the Michael Joo is no slouch either. |
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by jam on May 21, 2008 23:54:56 GMT 1, Oh... and I would pick Hirst (sans 'spin' paintings).
Oh... and I would pick Hirst (sans 'spin' paintings).
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by sausageboonwee on May 22, 2008 0:00:08 GMT 1, I've got an Opium which I love
I've got an Opium which I love
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by newmang on May 22, 2008 0:09:56 GMT 1, Are they comparable regarding the word "relevant" ? I would say Hirst is far more relevant to the world of art , whereas Banksy is more relevant to the street and the world at large.
Are they comparable regarding the word "relevant" ? I would say Hirst is far more relevant to the world of art , whereas Banksy is more relevant to the street and the world at large.
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by richy00 on May 22, 2008 1:18:15 GMT 1, doesnt mr banksy rent his flat off mr hirst?
doesnt mr banksy rent his flat off mr hirst?
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by idris on May 22, 2008 1:23:40 GMT 1, hirst is banksy
hirst is banksy
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by jamesreeve5 on May 22, 2008 1:24:46 GMT 1, Oh... and I would pick Hirst (sans 'spin' paintings).
funny you say that as I frequently use the fact that Las Vegas has the world's largest Hirst spin painting as a testament to the city's bad taste.
Oh... and I would pick Hirst (sans 'spin' paintings). funny you say that as I frequently use the fact that Las Vegas has the world's largest Hirst spin painting as a testament to the city's bad taste. |
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by idris on May 22, 2008 1:28:16 GMT 1, hirst rules - banksy is good but hirst is in a galaxy of his own
hirst rules - banksy is good but hirst is in a galaxy of his own
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by kronoopus on May 22, 2008 1:43:40 GMT 1, Oh... and I would pick Hirst (sans 'spin' paintings). funny you say that as I frequently use the fact that Las Vegas has the world's largest Hirst spin painting as a testament to the city's bad taste.
James,
Where is the Hirst Spin painting? I will be in Vegas in July?
Thanks!
Kron
Oh... and I would pick Hirst (sans 'spin' paintings). funny you say that as I frequently use the fact that Las Vegas has the world's largest Hirst spin painting as a testament to the city's bad taste. James, Where is the Hirst Spin painting? I will be in Vegas in July? Thanks! Kron |
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by Michael Jacob on May 22, 2008 2:38:49 GMT 1, Hirst! Banksy is great, but he's still pretty new to the art world. Damien has been consistently producing some amazing stuff. Lets hope Banksy continues in his direction!
Hirst! Banksy is great, but he's still pretty new to the art world. Damien has been consistently producing some amazing stuff. Lets hope Banksy continues in his direction!
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by goffy on May 22, 2008 3:02:59 GMT 1, Bollox! Damien Hirst hasn't got or had an original idea ever. Everything he has ever done has been ripped off. Although I will admit that the man has a talent for making money.
Bollox! Damien Hirst hasn't got or had an original idea ever. Everything he has ever done has been ripped off. Although I will admit that the man has a talent for making money.
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by Gentle Mental on May 22, 2008 3:05:50 GMT 1, *** warning crappy analogy ahead ****
like comparing a football star with a swim star... both athletes, but they compete in very different sporting events.
The football star will obviously get more money, fame amongst sports fans in general, but the football star can never swim as well as the swimmer.
And, the football star is likely to be remembered by more and for a longer time. Cuz it's a more popular sport.
Will swimming be as popular as football one day? Very unlikely. It doesn't have the complexity, the history and the consistent big money support.
*** warning crappy analogy ahead ****
like comparing a football star with a swim star... both athletes, but they compete in very different sporting events.
The football star will obviously get more money, fame amongst sports fans in general, but the football star can never swim as well as the swimmer.
And, the football star is likely to be remembered by more and for a longer time. Cuz it's a more popular sport.
Will swimming be as popular as football one day? Very unlikely. It doesn't have the complexity, the history and the consistent big money support.
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by Heavyconsumer on May 22, 2008 3:10:13 GMT 1, a fifty million pound sale pretty much makes this debate a non-starter. You're talking 8 figures (even if you reduce the price by the value of the raw materials it must surely remain in the 10s of millions) versus six! I know that this was not the answer to the original question posed, but I think it's a clear indicator of who "the establishment" feels is the most relevant for the time being. I don't think that means this will always be the case, but we'll have to wait and see. Hirst is an undisputed superstar and one of the true heavyweights of contemporary art. I think Banksy may be knocking on that door. If he walks through it then he'll become massively relevant as the man to introduce a new genre to the art elite. Maybe I'm wrong in my opening statement, I don't pretend to be an expert, but this is my perception as pretty much an outsider.
a fifty million pound sale pretty much makes this debate a non-starter. You're talking 8 figures (even if you reduce the price by the value of the raw materials it must surely remain in the 10s of millions) versus six! I know that this was not the answer to the original question posed, but I think it's a clear indicator of who "the establishment" feels is the most relevant for the time being. I don't think that means this will always be the case, but we'll have to wait and see. Hirst is an undisputed superstar and one of the true heavyweights of contemporary art. I think Banksy may be knocking on that door. If he walks through it then he'll become massively relevant as the man to introduce a new genre to the art elite. Maybe I'm wrong in my opening statement, I don't pretend to be an expert, but this is my perception as pretty much an outsider.
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by Richard on May 22, 2008 9:09:45 GMT 1, a fifty million pound sale pretty much makes this debate a non-starter. You're talking 8 figures (even if you reduce the price by the value of the raw materials it must surely remain in the 10s of millions) versus six! I know that this was not the answer to the original question posed, but I think it's a clear indicator of who "the establishment" feels is the most relevant for the time being.
I am sure it was an investment trust he was involved in that bought it because no one else was willing to pay the price he was after. Very little information was ever disclosed about and there is a lot of speculation it never really sold...
Which would make sense...as it is sh1te. 
a fifty million pound sale pretty much makes this debate a non-starter. You're talking 8 figures (even if you reduce the price by the value of the raw materials it must surely remain in the 10s of millions) versus six! I know that this was not the answer to the original question posed, but I think it's a clear indicator of who "the establishment" feels is the most relevant for the time being.I am sure it was an investment trust he was involved in that bought it because no one else was willing to pay the price he was after. Very little information was ever disclosed about and there is a lot of speculation it never really sold... Which would make sense...as it is sh1te.
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by mcster on May 22, 2008 9:25:04 GMT 1, My experience of Hirst's work is limited, but what I have seen hasn't really impressed me. Maybe I'm too dumb to understand it, or maybe the stuff I've seen of his is just at the more poncey stuff, but a cabinet full of sea shells does nothing or me. I think what's great about Street Art is the fact it's so accessable, whereas IMO a lot of Hirst's stuff just isn't.
My experience of Hirst's work is limited, but what I have seen hasn't really impressed me. Maybe I'm too dumb to understand it, or maybe the stuff I've seen of his is just at the more poncey stuff, but a cabinet full of sea shells does nothing or me. I think what's great about Street Art is the fact it's so accessable, whereas IMO a lot of Hirst's stuff just isn't.
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by cubrik on May 22, 2008 10:47:12 GMT 1, did hirst commision that napalm??
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by howlinhooker on May 22, 2008 10:51:03 GMT 1, ""ITS GETTING LIKE SPORT ON HERE """BANKSY "V"  ?? WHO FOKIN NEXT ? ........LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE FOR FUCK SAKE.............................................ANYWAY.............. HIRST!! AS MUCH AS I LOVE BANKSY
""ITS GETTING LIKE SPORT ON HERE """BANKSY "V" ?? WHO FOKIN NEXT ? ........LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE FOR FUCK SAKE.............................................ANYWAY.............. HIRST!! AS MUCH AS I LOVE BANKSY |
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by skylarkin on May 22, 2008 11:02:23 GMT 1, *** warning crappy analogy ahead **** like comparing a football star with a swim star... both athletes, but they compete in very different sporting events. The football star will obviously get more money, fame amongst sports fans in general, but the football star can never swim as well as the swimmer. And, the football star is likely to be remembered by more and for a longer time. Cuz it's a more popular sport. Will swimming be as popular as football one day? Very unlikely. It doesn't have the complexity, the history and the consistent big money support.
That analogy works for me. Hirst makes no bones about the fact that he knows how to work the system. In an interview with the Sunday Times he freely admits that all his art was created to make a noise within the art establishment. And with huge backers he got the publicity and colomn inchs to parade his wares. To do this he had to embrace the establishment and to a point get freindly with his old mate Sucky and sucky. Like it or not Hirst is an establishment whore.
To my knowledge Banksy has worked from the ground floor up. He has never looked to become part of the establishment, and to curtail to their expectations. He is definitly an independant artist that although maybe close to getting an invite into establishment hopefully will never except it.
Also at this moment in time, his art has never been based on somebody elses idea. Hirst cant say that.
(my 2 pence)
*** warning crappy analogy ahead **** like comparing a football star with a swim star... both athletes, but they compete in very different sporting events. The football star will obviously get more money, fame amongst sports fans in general, but the football star can never swim as well as the swimmer. And, the football star is likely to be remembered by more and for a longer time. Cuz it's a more popular sport. Will swimming be as popular as football one day? Very unlikely. It doesn't have the complexity, the history and the consistent big money support. That analogy works for me. Hirst makes no bones about the fact that he knows how to work the system. In an interview with the Sunday Times he freely admits that all his art was created to make a noise within the art establishment. And with huge backers he got the publicity and colomn inchs to parade his wares. To do this he had to embrace the establishment and to a point get freindly with his old mate Sucky and sucky. Like it or not Hirst is an establishment whore. To my knowledge Banksy has worked from the ground floor up. He has never looked to become part of the establishment, and to curtail to their expectations. He is definitly an independant artist that although maybe close to getting an invite into establishment hopefully will never except it. Also at this moment in time, his art has never been based on somebody elses idea. Hirst cant say that. (my 2 pence) |
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by angryboy on May 22, 2008 11:09:38 GMT 1, Hirst's work always seems like the emperor's new clothes to me.
Hirst's work always seems like the emperor's new clothes to me.
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by slowmo on May 22, 2008 11:23:15 GMT 1,
Also at this moment in time, his art has never been based on somebody elses idea. Hirst cant say that.
(my 2 pence)
Apart from those rats eh!
Also at this moment in time, his art has never been based on somebody elses idea. Hirst cant say that. (my 2 pence) Apart from those rats eh! |
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Banksy V Damien Hirst, by angryboy on May 22, 2008 11:31:56 GMT 1, Aye, didn't Banksy just say every time he thinks he's done something new he finds out Blek did it 20 years ago. Then again I suppose if you haven't seen the original before you have the idea then you haven't based it on their work.
Aye, didn't Banksy just say every time he thinks he's done something new he finds out Blek did it 20 years ago. Then again I suppose if you haven't seen the original before you have the idea then you haven't based it on their work.
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?? WHO FOKIN NEXT 
