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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by deal on Apr 2, 2008 16:58:17 GMT 1, :Bump: to the top.
Still For Sale.
:Bump: to the top.
Still For Sale.
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by deal on Apr 2, 2008 23:28:41 GMT 1, here here heavy, its usually the same moaners who b**ch about people selling prints they cannot afford. $15K is quite cheap in reflection for a print of 112, and limited to those who went to bethlehem. Hard one to figure out alsababba. I know we;ve gone through this before, But here you go from the Horse's mouth: www.picturesonwalls.com/Archive.aspClick on Gangsta Rat in the archive. Note how it reads EDITION 500, 150 signed 350 unsigned. That's how it works. Flags is an edition of 1112, 112 signed, 1000 unsigned.
You are wrong. It's an entirely different edition, using the same image. Read this:
www.Expressobeans/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1355&sid=8b095740821ac968653ee5f63ae5fa5b
Any professional publisher, printer, artist, dealer, etc... Would agree that formally speaking; this is a separate edition. They are obligated by this code of ethics.
Although, with that said, you can call it whatever you like... It really only matters to the people that own, sell, or buy the print, which I guess doesn't include you...
Good Luck. Thanks for the comment.
here here heavy, its usually the same moaners who b**ch about people selling prints they cannot afford. $15K is quite cheap in reflection for a print of 112, and limited to those who went to bethlehem. Hard one to figure out alsababba. I know we;ve gone through this before, But here you go from the Horse's mouth: www.picturesonwalls.com/Archive.aspClick on Gangsta Rat in the archive. Note how it reads EDITION 500, 150 signed 350 unsigned. That's how it works. Flags is an edition of 1112, 112 signed, 1000 unsigned. You are wrong. It's an entirely different edition, using the same image. Read this: www.Expressobeans/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1355&sid=8b095740821ac968653ee5f63ae5fa5bAny professional publisher, printer, artist, dealer, etc... Would agree that formally speaking; this is a separate edition. They are obligated by this code of ethics. Although, with that said, you can call it whatever you like... It really only matters to the people that own, sell, or buy the print, which I guess doesn't include you... Good Luck. Thanks for the comment. |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by funyoung on Apr 3, 2008 0:03:38 GMT 1, Hard one to figure out alsababba. I know we;ve gone through this before, But here you go from the Horse's mouth: www.picturesonwalls.com/Archive.aspClick on Gangsta Rat in the archive. Note how it reads EDITION 500, 150 signed 350 unsigned. That's how it works. Flags is an edition of 1112, 112 signed, 1000 unsigned. You are wrong. It's an entirely different edition, using the same image. Read this: www.Expressobeans/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1355&sid=8b095740821ac968653ee5f63ae5fa5bAny professional publisher, printer, artist, dealer, etc... Would agree that formally speaking; this is a separate edition. They are obligated by this code of ethics. Although, with that said, you can call it whatever you like... It really only matters to the people that own, sell, or buy the print, which I guess doesn't include you... Good Luck. Thanks for the comment.
Interesting read if you have the time and effort.
According to that 'guide', adherence to which is essentially optional i presume, should these have not been labelled as 'reproduction'?
Quote: "Any facsimile, moulding or reproduction of a work of art by photographic or other mechanical processes which creates the illusion of authenticity must be labelled <<reproduction>> or bear another sufficiently clear and explicit sign or mark to avoid confusion." (about half way down under article 7)
LOL.
Hard one to figure out alsababba. I know we;ve gone through this before, But here you go from the Horse's mouth: www.picturesonwalls.com/Archive.aspClick on Gangsta Rat in the archive. Note how it reads EDITION 500, 150 signed 350 unsigned. That's how it works. Flags is an edition of 1112, 112 signed, 1000 unsigned. You are wrong. It's an entirely different edition, using the same image. Read this: www.Expressobeans/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1355&sid=8b095740821ac968653ee5f63ae5fa5bAny professional publisher, printer, artist, dealer, etc... Would agree that formally speaking; this is a separate edition. They are obligated by this code of ethics. Although, with that said, you can call it whatever you like... It really only matters to the people that own, sell, or buy the print, which I guess doesn't include you... Good Luck. Thanks for the comment. Interesting read if you have the time and effort. According to that 'guide', adherence to which is essentially optional i presume, should these have not been labelled as 'reproduction'? Quote: "Any facsimile, moulding or reproduction of a work of art by photographic or other mechanical processes which creates the illusion of authenticity must be labelled <<reproduction>> or bear another sufficiently clear and explicit sign or mark to avoid confusion." (about half way down under article 7) LOL. |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by deal on Apr 3, 2008 1:08:24 GMT 1, Yeah, and people don't spend hours each day looking at useless opinions and mindless BS here? If you have the effort to call yourself a "collector" or even a print "buyer", and you haven't the effort to read through this, and any other number of documents, then you are a fool.
Seems as if you are starting your post by indicating one's laziness and reluctance to adhere to a professional code of ethics which dictates the norms or the very subject of which you collect. That seems wholly irresponsible on your part, no?
I disagree with your other comment as well. In the article, their use of the phrase "illusion of authenticity" is in reference to any unsigned, unnumbered prints. If the prints are signed, or if the prints are numbered, then the artist is indicating his responsibility towards the entire edition.
If the print is made to look like an original print, and is not part of the edition or an entirely new edition, and there are others that have been signed and/or numbered, then yes, the print MUST be stamped or marked "reproduction" in some way.
I would think that any art publisher would be more than familiar with theses norms, as well as the laws of authenticity, etc... Maybe rather than making up your own rules, you could just go along with what the artist and publisher have agreed with...
...unless you already know it all?
Yeah, and people don't spend hours each day looking at useless opinions and mindless BS here? If you have the effort to call yourself a "collector" or even a print "buyer", and you haven't the effort to read through this, and any other number of documents, then you are a fool.
Seems as if you are starting your post by indicating one's laziness and reluctance to adhere to a professional code of ethics which dictates the norms or the very subject of which you collect. That seems wholly irresponsible on your part, no?
I disagree with your other comment as well. In the article, their use of the phrase "illusion of authenticity" is in reference to any unsigned, unnumbered prints. If the prints are signed, or if the prints are numbered, then the artist is indicating his responsibility towards the entire edition.
If the print is made to look like an original print, and is not part of the edition or an entirely new edition, and there are others that have been signed and/or numbered, then yes, the print MUST be stamped or marked "reproduction" in some way.
I would think that any art publisher would be more than familiar with theses norms, as well as the laws of authenticity, etc... Maybe rather than making up your own rules, you could just go along with what the artist and publisher have agreed with...
...unless you already know it all?
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Dec 19, 2007 12:46:48 GMT 1, I was wondering if anyone has heard back from Laz or POW about the gold flag?
I was wondering if anyone has heard back from Laz or POW about the gold flag?
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by krazy on Dec 19, 2007 12:58:55 GMT 1, No.. the voucher says they'll call in Jan.
No.. the voucher says they'll call in Jan.
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by Existencil on Dec 19, 2007 12:59:04 GMT 1, How exactly did this work? You got a token and they ask for payment later???
How exactly did this work? You got a token and they ask for payment later???
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by Francis on Dec 19, 2007 13:04:43 GMT 1, What if you lost your vaucher?
What if you lost your vaucher?
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Dec 19, 2007 13:06:03 GMT 1, thanks guys
thanks guys
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by graeme501 on Dec 19, 2007 13:06:05 GMT 1, well they took ur phonenumber, address and all that, so im sure u could prove it was u that was there
well they took ur phonenumber, address and all that, so im sure u could prove it was u that was there
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by jam on Jun 30, 2007 18:44:09 GMT 1, This thread is for photos only for framed FLAG prints. Rather than spending all that time looking for examples of a this print framed up... you can see and post examples in this thread! This will allow everyone on the board to have a look at what other people have done with each print to see how different mats, frames, and mountings look for each individual print. This should be a good way to save time from searching all over, plus it will give you some nice ideas for your Banksy!
Feel free to add photos of your framed example in each of the appropriate threads, there is a "Framed" thread under each print listed in the 'Banksy Limited Edition Prints' section. To keep each thread manageable and on topic, please refrain from commenting. Also, remember to resize images that may be oversized so everyone can have a proper look at your framing work! 
This thread is for photos only for framed FLAG prints. Rather than spending all that time looking for examples of a this print framed up... you can see and post examples in this thread! This will allow everyone on the board to have a look at what other people have done with each print to see how different mats, frames, and mountings look for each individual print. This should be a good way to save time from searching all over, plus it will give you some nice ideas for your Banksy! Feel free to add photos of your framed example in each of the appropriate threads, there is a "Framed" thread under each print listed in the 'Banksy Limited Edition Prints' section. To keep each thread manageable and on topic, please refrain from commenting. Also, remember to resize images that may be oversized so everyone can have a proper look at your framing work! |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by deal on Apr 4, 2008 6:55:09 GMT 1, 12 hours to go...
12 hours to go...
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by deal on Apr 4, 2008 18:29:05 GMT 1, 30 minutes left, and it sits quietly at $13K USD, or $6600 pounds.
30 minutes left, and it sits quietly at $13K USD, or $6600 pounds.
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by Guest on Apr 6, 2008 18:12:00 GMT 1, JetSet Graffiti is very happy to be able to offer this screaming deal to our good friends on the Banksy Forum.
Banksy Gold Flag FOR SALE.
New Condition, only out of the tube for photos
Full Provenance
Photos Available
Asking Price: $12,500 USD plus all transaction fees and shipping.
Print is located in Los Angeles, CA. USA.
For more information, feel free to contact me through this forum, or email me at info @ jetsetgraffiti .com (remove the spaces), and I can call you right back o the phone, or we can talk through email.
Thanks everyone...
This is also being advertised on ebay. Item #: 280215609084
JetSet Graffiti is very happy to be able to offer this screaming deal to our good friends on the Banksy Forum.
Banksy Gold Flag FOR SALE.
New Condition, only out of the tube for photos
Full Provenance
Photos Available
Asking Price: $12,500 USD plus all transaction fees and shipping.
Print is located in Los Angeles, CA. USA.
For more information, feel free to contact me through this forum, or email me at info @ jetsetgraffiti .com (remove the spaces), and I can call you right back o the phone, or we can talk through email.
Thanks everyone...
This is also being advertised on ebay. Item #: 280215609084
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by Guest on Apr 7, 2008 18:01:03 GMT 1, :bump: to the top.
:bump: to the top.
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by burnz on Apr 7, 2008 18:20:03 GMT 1, if you fly over to the uk with the print i will give you $12 000
if you fly over to the uk with the print i will give you $12 000
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by Guest on Apr 7, 2008 19:00:03 GMT 1, That's fine. I can easily call a courier with the time to do it. Like I said, buyer pays all shipping and transaction fees... If this is a cost that you are willing to accept, then yes hand-carry is no problem at all.
I will not take any less than $12,500 USD.
We can have the print to you by the end of the week... Let's take this to PM. I am sending you my contact information so we can discuss.
The print is still for sale.
That's fine. I can easily call a courier with the time to do it. Like I said, buyer pays all shipping and transaction fees... If this is a cost that you are willing to accept, then yes hand-carry is no problem at all.
I will not take any less than $12,500 USD.
We can have the print to you by the end of the week... Let's take this to PM. I am sending you my contact information so we can discuss.
The print is still for sale.
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by funyoung on Apr 7, 2008 20:04:49 GMT 1, Yeah, and people don't spend hours each day looking at useless opinions and mindless BS here? If you have the effort to call yourself a "collector" or even a print "buyer", and you haven't the effort to read through this, and any other number of documents, then you are a fool.
Sorry Deal, missed your post before. Read the guide as I said. But generally buy for a prints aesthetic value rather than how long the print run was. Basically have more money than sense in that respect. sorry.
Seems as if you are starting your post by indicating one's laziness and reluctance to adhere to a professional code of ethics which dictates the norms or the very subject of which you collect. That seems wholly irresponsible on your part, no?
A professional code of ethics? Why is it irresponsible of me to not care whether the artist has morals or adheres to the 'ethics' of painting? (of which i didn't realise there were any)
I disagree with your other comment as well. In the article, their use of the phrase "illusion of authenticity" is in reference to any unsigned, unnumbered prints. If the prints are signed, or if the prints are numbered, then the artist is indicating his responsibility towards the entire edition.
The guide needs to be made clearer in that respect then as that is not what i understood. Mea culpa.
I would think that any art publisher would be more than familiar with theses norms, as well as the laws of authenticity, etc... Maybe rather than making up your own rules, you could just go along with what the artist and publisher have agreed with... ...unless you already know it all?
Never said I knew it all, but not an accusation I haven't heard before as I do seem to know more that the average person.
Now back to my assumption - adherence to this 'guide' would be optional would it not? Or do you have a copy of the one that Banksy signed when pledging his allegiance to this 'guide'?
Yeah, and people don't spend hours each day looking at useless opinions and mindless BS here? If you have the effort to call yourself a "collector" or even a print "buyer", and you haven't the effort to read through this, and any other number of documents, then you are a fool. Sorry Deal, missed your post before. Read the guide as I said. But generally buy for a prints aesthetic value rather than how long the print run was. Basically have more money than sense in that respect. sorry. Seems as if you are starting your post by indicating one's laziness and reluctance to adhere to a professional code of ethics which dictates the norms or the very subject of which you collect. That seems wholly irresponsible on your part, no? A professional code of ethics? Why is it irresponsible of me to not care whether the artist has morals or adheres to the 'ethics' of painting? (of which i didn't realise there were any) I disagree with your other comment as well. In the article, their use of the phrase "illusion of authenticity" is in reference to any unsigned, unnumbered prints. If the prints are signed, or if the prints are numbered, then the artist is indicating his responsibility towards the entire edition. The guide needs to be made clearer in that respect then as that is not what i understood. Mea culpa. I would think that any art publisher would be more than familiar with theses norms, as well as the laws of authenticity, etc... Maybe rather than making up your own rules, you could just go along with what the artist and publisher have agreed with... ...unless you already know it all? Never said I knew it all, but not an accusation I haven't heard before as I do seem to know more that the average person. Now back to my assumption - adherence to this 'guide' would be optional would it not? Or do you have a copy of the one that Banksy signed when pledging his allegiance to this 'guide'? |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by deal on Apr 7, 2008 21:44:05 GMT 1, Yeah, and people don't spend hours each day looking at useless opinions and mindless BS here? If you have the effort to call yourself a "collector" or even a print "buyer", and you haven't the effort to read through this, and any other number of documents, then you are a fool. Sorry Deal, missed your post before. Read the guide as I said. But generally buy for a prints aesthetic value rather than how long the print run was. Basically have more money than sense in that respect. sorry. A professional code of ethics? Why is it irresponsible of me to not care whether the artist has morals or adheres to the 'ethics' of painting? (of which i didn't realise there were any) The guide needs to be made clearer in that respect then as that is not what i understood. Mea culpa. I would think that any art publisher would be more than familiar with theses norms, as well as the laws of authenticity, etc... Maybe rather than making up your own rules, you could just go along with what the artist and publisher have agreed with... ...unless you already know it all? Never said I knew it all, but not an accusation I haven't heard before as I do seem to know more that the average person. Now back to my assumption - adherence to this 'guide' would be optional would it not? Or do you have a copy of the one that Banksy signed when pledging his allegiance to this 'guide'?
Couple things to reply to:
Nothing is official in the art world. There exists no regulatory commission, or group of law-men that hold everyone to this. However, there are certainly very specific norms that people in the industry, particularly respected people, are expected to adhere to. If these norms are not adhered to, then it is generally at the cost of reputation, sales, etc... If you don't adhere to the very basic principals behind these collective "norms", then you are shooting yourself in the foot, in a manner of speaking. Furthermore, there is a lot of pressure put on the publishers to adhere to these "norms".
Also, there are no ethics to artwork, but there are ethics that surround the context of the artwork. Noone in the world can ignore that fact. We aren't talking about the artwork here, we are talking about the markings on the artwork...
The above is just to clarify my points. I never meant to put words in your mouth, as you are quite articulate on your own. Sorry if I came off like that.
Yeah, and people don't spend hours each day looking at useless opinions and mindless BS here? If you have the effort to call yourself a "collector" or even a print "buyer", and you haven't the effort to read through this, and any other number of documents, then you are a fool. Sorry Deal, missed your post before. Read the guide as I said. But generally buy for a prints aesthetic value rather than how long the print run was. Basically have more money than sense in that respect. sorry. A professional code of ethics? Why is it irresponsible of me to not care whether the artist has morals or adheres to the 'ethics' of painting? (of which i didn't realise there were any) The guide needs to be made clearer in that respect then as that is not what i understood. Mea culpa. I would think that any art publisher would be more than familiar with theses norms, as well as the laws of authenticity, etc... Maybe rather than making up your own rules, you could just go along with what the artist and publisher have agreed with... ...unless you already know it all? Never said I knew it all, but not an accusation I haven't heard before as I do seem to know more that the average person. Now back to my assumption - adherence to this 'guide' would be optional would it not? Or do you have a copy of the one that Banksy signed when pledging his allegiance to this 'guide'? Couple things to reply to: Nothing is official in the art world. There exists no regulatory commission, or group of law-men that hold everyone to this. However, there are certainly very specific norms that people in the industry, particularly respected people, are expected to adhere to. If these norms are not adhered to, then it is generally at the cost of reputation, sales, etc... If you don't adhere to the very basic principals behind these collective "norms", then you are shooting yourself in the foot, in a manner of speaking. Furthermore, there is a lot of pressure put on the publishers to adhere to these "norms". Also, there are no ethics to artwork, but there are ethics that surround the context of the artwork. Noone in the world can ignore that fact. We aren't talking about the artwork here, we are talking about the markings on the artwork... The above is just to clarify my points. I never meant to put words in your mouth, as you are quite articulate on your own. Sorry if I came off like that. |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by Guest on Apr 8, 2008 16:14:11 GMT 1, :bump: to the top.
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by Guest on Apr 10, 2008 20:55:32 GMT 1, Didn't sell, so I put up a new auction on ebay. Item #280216985744
Any takers? I can't understand why this wouldn't sell for $12,500 when the very next day, one went for over $13K USD.
Anyways, let me know if anyone's interested.
Didn't sell, so I put up a new auction on ebay. Item #280216985744
Any takers? I can't understand why this wouldn't sell for $12,500 when the very next day, one went for over $13K USD.
Anyways, let me know if anyone's interested.
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by Deleted on Apr 10, 2008 21:34:52 GMT 1, think $13k was on the high end. supply/demand. try doing a normal auction
think $13k was on the high end. supply/demand. try doing a normal auction
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by Guest on Apr 13, 2008 17:16:55 GMT 1, Price is now set at $11,500 USD due to lack of interest at $12,500... Buyer pays shipping.
Payment can be made in USD or in GBP. Price is $5,850 GBP
I don't know a single person in the world that wouldn't say that this is priced to sell.
Auction listing: cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280216985744
Price is now set at $11,500 USD due to lack of interest at $12,500... Buyer pays shipping. Payment can be made in USD or in GBP. Price is $5,850 GBP I don't know a single person in the world that wouldn't say that this is priced to sell. Auction listing: cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280216985744 |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by manchestermike on Apr 13, 2008 17:21:53 GMT 1, New Condition, only out of the tube for photos
Uh-oh!!!
Should really have been out of the tube as soon as you got it!!!
New Condition, only out of the tube for photos
Uh-oh!!!
Should really have been out of the tube as soon as you got it!!!
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by jB on Apr 13, 2008 17:29:59 GMT 1, that chromalux is pretty fragile eh mike?
that chromalux is pretty fragile eh mike?
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by manchestermike on Apr 13, 2008 17:34:17 GMT 1, that chromalux is pretty fragile eh mike?
Just a wee bit mate!
that chromalux is pretty fragile eh mike? Just a wee bit mate! |
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Banksy โข Flag GOLD, by Zippy on Apr 14, 2008 0:21:14 GMT 1, Price is now set at $11,500 USD due to lack of interest at $12,500... Buyer pays shipping. Payment can be made in USD or in GBP. Price is $5,850 GBP I don't know a single person in the world that wouldn't say that this is priced to sell.Auction listing: cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280216985744
Well then - let me be that single person.
ยฃ5,850 is not priced to sell. Its a price to make a 'right bleedin profit' from.
Did you travel to the Ghetto to buy it? What percentage will you be giving to Banksy's preffered charity?
Cost price plus a donation to charity would tell me 'its priced to sell'.
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Price is now set at $11,500 USD due to lack of interest at $12,500... Buyer pays shipping. Payment can be made in USD or in GBP. Price is $5,850 GBP I don't know a single person in the world that wouldn't say that this is priced to sell.Auction listing: cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280216985744Well then - let me be that single person. ยฃ5,850 is not priced to sell. Its a price to make a 'right bleedin profit' from. Did you travel to the Ghetto to buy it? What percentage will you be giving to Banksy's preffered charity? Cost price plus a donation to charity would tell me 'its priced to sell'. Z |
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