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AMs work hanging..., by slowmo on Jul 29, 2008 22:19:24 GMT 1, I'm more than happy to agree to disagree, wish I had ยฃ40K though.
I'm more than happy to agree to disagree, wish I had ยฃ40K though.
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AMs work hanging..., by graeme501 on Jul 29, 2008 22:25:02 GMT 1, u'd still be short on the vat tho 
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AMs work hanging..., by guest2 on Jul 29, 2008 22:25:49 GMT 1, I'm more than happy to agree to disagree, wish I had ยฃ40K though.
Honestly, if you won 40k tomorrow, you'd go borrow the extra 17.5% and go buy a micallef picture would you? Honestly?
I'm more than happy to agree to disagree, wish I had ยฃ40K though. Honestly, if you won 40k tomorrow, you'd go borrow the extra 17.5% and go buy a micallef picture would you? Honestly? |
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AMs work hanging..., by felix on Jul 29, 2008 22:26:29 GMT 1, but surely LAZ's top end clientele has evolved into people that wont need to sell it, even for 1/2 the price, if they had too, and thats the point im sure when micallef has his next solo show there will be cheaper canvases and works on paper on sale
I'd be hugely pissed if I had bought something elitist for 40k and then that same artist comes out with a huge catalogue of work for less money. Micallef will now have to release at this price mark, I hope he has the buyers ready and i'm out  (I was along time ago anyway ;D)
but surely LAZ's top end clientele has evolved into people that wont need to sell it, even for 1/2 the price, if they had too, and thats the point im sure when micallef has his next solo show there will be cheaper canvases and works on paper on sale I'd be hugely pissed if I had bought something elitist for 40k and then that same artist comes out with a huge catalogue of work for less money. Micallef will now have to release at this price mark, I hope he has the buyers ready and i'm out (I was along time ago anyway ;D) |
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AMs work hanging..., by slowmo on Jul 29, 2008 22:30:14 GMT 1, I'm more than happy to agree to disagree, wish I had ยฃ40K though. Honestly, if you won 40k tomorrow, you'd go borrow the extra 17.5% and go buy a micallef picture would you? Honestly?
Yeah man, I like him more than I did when I first saw his work, everything I have ever seen of his work has only ever grown on me. I cannot say that about any other artist producing work today.
EDIT - Wouldnt be paying the VAT, I'd walk in and offer cash, off the books like
I'm more than happy to agree to disagree, wish I had ยฃ40K though. Honestly, if you won 40k tomorrow, you'd go borrow the extra 17.5% and go buy a micallef picture would you? Honestly? Yeah man, I like him more than I did when I first saw his work, everything I have ever seen of his work has only ever grown on me. I cannot say that about any other artist producing work today. EDIT - Wouldnt be paying the VAT, I'd walk in and offer cash, off the books like |
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AMs work hanging..., by felix on Jul 29, 2008 22:30:34 GMT 1, u'd still be short on the vat tho
Buy it from your offshore property, then carry it back on the plane in your hand luggage. Job done. Or just turn up with cash and the beers.
u'd still be short on the vat tho Buy it from your offshore property, then carry it back on the plane in your hand luggage. Job done. Or just turn up with cash and the beers. |
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AMs work hanging..., by afroken on Jul 29, 2008 22:31:36 GMT 1, Come on people, this is an artist at the top of his game clearly...
Come on people, this is an artist at the top of his game clearly... |
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AMs work hanging..., by graeme501 on Jul 29, 2008 22:31:52 GMT 1, u'd still be short on the vat tho Buy it from your offshore property, then carry it back on the plane in your hand luggage. Job done. Or just turn up with cash and the beers.
hahaha that works with some galleries on here 
u'd still be short on the vat tho Buy it from your offshore property, then carry it back on the plane in your hand luggage. Job done. Or just turn up with cash and the beers. hahaha that works with some galleries on here |
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AMs work hanging..., by graeme501 on Jul 29, 2008 22:35:06 GMT 1, but surely LAZ's top end clientele has evolved into people that wont need to sell it, even for 1/2 the price, if they had too, and thats the point im sure when micallef has his next solo show there will be cheaper canvases and works on paper on sale I'd be hugely pissed if I had bought something elitist for 40k and then that same artist comes out with a huge catalogue of work for less money. Micallef will now have to release at this price mark, I hope he has the buyers ready and i'm out (I was along time ago anyway ;D)
but in micallef's LA show, there were canvases that were more expensive than these
im not saying that he would have huge catalogue's of work for less money, but i guess it would be like most artists solo show's, there is work of various sizes and mediums, with a variety of prices
but surely LAZ's top end clientele has evolved into people that wont need to sell it, even for 1/2 the price, if they had too, and thats the point im sure when micallef has his next solo show there will be cheaper canvases and works on paper on sale I'd be hugely pissed if I had bought something elitist for 40k and then that same artist comes out with a huge catalogue of work for less money. Micallef will now have to release at this price mark, I hope he has the buyers ready and i'm out (I was along time ago anyway ;D) but in micallef's LA show, there were canvases that were more expensive than these im not saying that he would have huge catalogue's of work for less money, but i guess it would be like most artists solo show's, there is work of various sizes and mediums, with a variety of prices |
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AMs work hanging..., by bobbymeachamjr on Jul 29, 2008 22:35:37 GMT 1, Is that all it takes to justify 100K prices - by having the seller have a "sold" sign up? well yes ... because they sold, so some1 agree's that the prices are correct
you're missing the point. I set up gallery x with artisty y. I put up 10 works by artist y. I put "sold" next to 5 of them @ price z. Hey if the gullible sheep now believe the artist is worth price z, I got a good thing going...
Is that all it takes to justify 100K prices - by having the seller have a "sold" sign up? well yes ... because they sold, so some1 agree's that the prices are correct you're missing the point. I set up gallery x with artisty y. I put up 10 works by artist y. I put "sold" next to 5 of them @ price z. Hey if the gullible sheep now believe the artist is worth price z, I got a good thing going... |
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AMs work hanging..., by guest2 on Jul 29, 2008 22:36:06 GMT 1, ....Micallef is very very talented - the test often being that if you saw a work when you were in a different country and did not expect it or know anything about him would you rate him. I think I would. Not into the guns and corporate logos but his portraits are really special in my opinion..
i'm confused, doesn't a good piece of art look good in any country? as for the portraits, there are a couple on Lazinc. Go fill your boots.
Any corporate logos in the upcoming dface show?
....Micallef is very very talented - the test often being that if you saw a work when you were in a different country and did not expect it or know anything about him would you rate him. I think I would. Not into the guns and corporate logos but his portraits are really special in my opinion.. i'm confused, doesn't a good piece of art look good in any country? as for the portraits, there are a couple on Lazinc. Go fill your boots. Any corporate logos in the upcoming dface show? |
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AMs work hanging..., by graeme501 on Jul 29, 2008 22:37:01 GMT 1, so ur disputing that LAZ has sold the work then ?
so ur disputing that LAZ has sold the work then ?
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AMs work hanging..., by guest2 on Jul 29, 2008 22:39:17 GMT 1, Honestly, if you won 40k tomorrow, you'd go borrow the extra 17.5% and go buy a micallef picture would you? Honestly? Yeah man, I like him more than I did when I first saw his work, everything I have ever seen of his work has only ever grown on me. I cannot say that about any other artist producing work today. EDIT - Wouldnt be paying the VAT, I'd walk in and offer cash, off the books like
Fair-do's Slomo, I do like the bethlehem number.
Honestly, if you won 40k tomorrow, you'd go borrow the extra 17.5% and go buy a micallef picture would you? Honestly? Yeah man, I like him more than I did when I first saw his work, everything I have ever seen of his work has only ever grown on me. I cannot say that about any other artist producing work today. EDIT - Wouldnt be paying the VAT, I'd walk in and offer cash, off the books like Fair-do's Slomo, I do like the bethlehem number. |
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AMs work hanging..., by bobbymeachamjr on Jul 29, 2008 22:44:05 GMT 1, I'm just open to doubt, thats all. This is a guy whos a marketing machine, buys his own art @auctions, pulls art from his gallery just prior to auctions then magically reappear right after, etc etc etc....
I'm just open to doubt, thats all. This is a guy whos a marketing machine, buys his own art @auctions, pulls art from his gallery just prior to auctions then magically reappear right after, etc etc etc....
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AMs work hanging..., by felix on Jul 29, 2008 22:45:32 GMT 1, well yes ... because they sold, so some1 agree's that the prices are correct you're missing the point. I set up gallery x with artisty y. I put up 10 works by artist y. I put "sold" next to 5 of them @ price z. Hey if the gullible sheep now believe the artist is worth price z, I got a good thing going...
I wouldn't think and would hope Laz don't do this, but you are right - always be wary about somethings 'worth'. Anyway they would be stupid to, it works much better for others doing this practice at an auction 
well yes ... because they sold, so some1 agree's that the prices are correct you're missing the point. I set up gallery x with artisty y. I put up 10 works by artist y. I put "sold" next to 5 of them @ price z. Hey if the gullible sheep now believe the artist is worth price z, I got a good thing going... I wouldn't think and would hope Laz don't do this, but you are right - always be wary about somethings 'worth'. Anyway they would be stupid to, it works much better for others doing this practice at an auction |
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AMs work hanging..., by top on Jul 29, 2008 22:46:24 GMT 1, but surely LAZ's top end clientele has evolved into people that wont need to sell it, even for 1/2 the price, if they had too, and thats the point im sure when micallef has his next solo show there will be
Fair enough comment Graeme, but for me, the point is that they are overpriced at this point in AM's career. Just feel that the prices are solely aimed at those with bigger wallet's..even they won't want more than one big original on their wall..
Not sure about the 'cheaper canvases and works on paper on sale', do Laz / AM base their prices on size / worthiness?(!). Why sell for less? ..dangerous games imo.
but surely LAZ's top end clientele has evolved into people that wont need to sell it, even for 1/2 the price, if they had too, and thats the point im sure when micallef has his next solo show there will be Fair enough comment Graeme, but for me, the point is that they are overpriced at this point in AM's career. Just feel that the prices are solely aimed at those with bigger wallet's..even they won't want more than one big original on their wall.. Not sure about the 'cheaper canvases and works on paper on sale', do Laz / AM base their prices on size / worthiness?(!). Why sell for less? ..dangerous games imo. |
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AMs work hanging..., by slowmo on Jul 29, 2008 22:54:16 GMT 1, Funny that top, I constantly have to pull back from buying Micallef prints, I have three, I would like all of them but couldn't find the space and think its important to have diversity on the walls. However if I could buy originals like prints, Antony's work is diverse enough that one simply wouldn't do.
Funny that top, I constantly have to pull back from buying Micallef prints, I have three, I would like all of them but couldn't find the space and think its important to have diversity on the walls. However if I could buy originals like prints, Antony's work is diverse enough that one simply wouldn't do.
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AMs work hanging..., by Harveyn on Jul 29, 2008 22:55:00 GMT 1, Great contributions from Mose, James, Lou and Pez. To many points to comment on and to be honest at times each one of you have made points that have struck a cord with me.
I think I would certainly like to explore this subject matter more and be educated further about the impact other art genres have had on this particular art scene and how this scene might evolve or disappear due to its inability or ability to cross over into or stimulate interest in the mainstream art world / market.
The main question I have of myself is whether I have the time or the patience to allow that education process to occur. The internet age and pace at which globalization is occurring sort of suits me and my lifestyle. I think thats what appeals to me about this art movement. It may also mean that it has no longevity. Its accessible and moving at pace. I am quite happy to buy art on impulse and regret it. In fact thats been part of the fun. The evolution of my collection has been based on trial and error a process that has allowed me to develop my taste.
Great contributions from Mose, James, Lou and Pez. To many points to comment on and to be honest at times each one of you have made points that have struck a cord with me.
I think I would certainly like to explore this subject matter more and be educated further about the impact other art genres have had on this particular art scene and how this scene might evolve or disappear due to its inability or ability to cross over into or stimulate interest in the mainstream art world / market.
The main question I have of myself is whether I have the time or the patience to allow that education process to occur. The internet age and pace at which globalization is occurring sort of suits me and my lifestyle. I think thats what appeals to me about this art movement. It may also mean that it has no longevity. Its accessible and moving at pace. I am quite happy to buy art on impulse and regret it. In fact thats been part of the fun. The evolution of my collection has been based on trial and error a process that has allowed me to develop my taste.
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AMs work hanging..., by Richard on Jul 29, 2008 22:58:38 GMT 1, The new paintings are shown here with the original image on which they were based...
www.antonymicallef.com/115a.htm
Edit: I just noticed on the envelope with the doodle on Antony is spelt Anthony...hmmmm...
The new paintings are shown here with the original image on which they were based... www.antonymicallef.com/115a.htmEdit: I just noticed on the envelope with the doodle on Antony is spelt Anthony...hmmmm... |
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AMs work hanging..., by top on Jul 29, 2008 23:01:51 GMT 1, Funny that top, I constantly have to pull back from buying Micallef prints, I have three, I would like all of them but couldn't find the space and think its important to have diversity on the walls. However if I could buy originals like prints, Antony's work is diverse enough that one simply wouldn't do.
Ahh slowmo..but your a true fan ..don't think the big coins have as much passion as yourself
EDIT - ..over time that is 
Funny that top, I constantly have to pull back from buying Micallef prints, I have three, I would like all of them but couldn't find the space and think its important to have diversity on the walls. However if I could buy originals like prints, Antony's work is diverse enough that one simply wouldn't do. Ahh slowmo..but your a true fan ..don't think the big coins have as much passion as yourself EDIT - ..over time that is |
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AMs work hanging..., by graeme501 on Jul 29, 2008 23:02:43 GMT 1, what i mean is, micallef has taken a bit of a battering recently, so he would want these new canvases to be naturally his best work - these are his top end canvases produced for a group show
i would expect his solo show to include original work aimed at different levels at the market, like the head study on sale at laz for 25k, and the charcoal on paper - dumb girl, that sold for 10k (admittadly at an auction)
about the comment about the work being aimed at bigger wallets, and even they wont want more than one big original on their walls .... with big wallets, come many houses, and many walls
what i mean is, micallef has taken a bit of a battering recently, so he would want these new canvases to be naturally his best work - these are his top end canvases produced for a group show i would expect his solo show to include original work aimed at different levels at the market, like the head study on sale at laz for 25k, and the charcoal on paper - dumb girl, that sold for 10k (admittadly at an auction) about the comment about the work being aimed at bigger wallets, and even they wont want more than one big original on their walls .... with big wallets, come many houses, and many walls |
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AMs work hanging..., by felix on Jul 29, 2008 23:05:30 GMT 1, Hey what about my terrible contributions Harveyn! I agree with you on the trial and error part completely and think this is how it should be done, follow your heart. As in life though, some people live by the book, some throw it out the window. Neither are a given practice and nothing is for certain. Do / buy what you like, whatever suits you.
Hey what about my terrible contributions Harveyn! I agree with you on the trial and error part completely and think this is how it should be done, follow your heart. As in life though, some people live by the book, some throw it out the window. Neither are a given practice and nothing is for certain. Do / buy what you like, whatever suits you.
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AMs work hanging..., by graeme501 on Jul 29, 2008 23:07:56 GMT 1, its refreshing having a discussion with people that have a different opinion to yourself without being called a c**t:)
its refreshing having a discussion with people that have a different opinion to yourself without being called a c**t:)
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AMs work hanging..., by top on Jul 29, 2008 23:08:26 GMT 1, what i mean is, micallef has taken a bit of a battering recently, so he would want these new canvases to be naturally his best work - these are his top end canvases produced for a group show i would expect his solo show to include original work aimed at different levels at the market, like the head study on sale at laz for 25k, and the charcoal on paper - dumb girl, that sold for 10k (admittadly at an auction) about the comment about the work being aimed at bigger wallets, and even they wont want more than one big original on their walls .... with big wallets, come many houses, and many walls
Nice reply Graeme ..let's just hope it works for AM..
what i mean is, micallef has taken a bit of a battering recently, so he would want these new canvases to be naturally his best work - these are his top end canvases produced for a group show i would expect his solo show to include original work aimed at different levels at the market, like the head study on sale at laz for 25k, and the charcoal on paper - dumb girl, that sold for 10k (admittadly at an auction) about the comment about the work being aimed at bigger wallets, and even they wont want more than one big original on their walls .... with big wallets, come many houses, and many walls Nice reply Graeme ..let's just hope it works for AM.. |
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AMs work hanging..., by top on Jul 29, 2008 23:09:13 GMT 1, its refreshing having a discussion with people that have a different opinion to yourself without being called a c**t
W@nker.. lol ;D
its refreshing having a discussion with people that have a different opinion to yourself without being called a c**t W@nker.. lol ;D |
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AMs work hanging..., by top on Jul 29, 2008 23:12:00 GMT 1, Great contributions from Mose, James, Lou and Pez. To many points to comment on and to be honest at times each one of you have made points that have struck a cord with me. I think I would certainly like to explore this subject matter more and be educated further about the impact other art genres have had on this particular art scene and how this scene might evolve or disappear due to its inability or ability to cross over into or stimulate interest in the mainstream art world / market. The main question I have of myself is whether I have the time or the patience to allow that education process to occur. The internet age and pace at which globalization is occurring sort of suits me and my lifestyle. I think thats what appeals to me about this art movement. It may also mean that it has no longevity. Its accessible and moving at pace. I am quite happy to buy art on impulse and regret it. In fact thats been part of the fun. The evolution of my collection has been based on trial and error a process that has allowed me to develop my taste.
Great honest post Neil
Yes, the main contributor's have been having a ball!! sparked off a great friendly discussion here
Great contributions from Mose, James, Lou and Pez. To many points to comment on and to be honest at times each one of you have made points that have struck a cord with me. I think I would certainly like to explore this subject matter more and be educated further about the impact other art genres have had on this particular art scene and how this scene might evolve or disappear due to its inability or ability to cross over into or stimulate interest in the mainstream art world / market. The main question I have of myself is whether I have the time or the patience to allow that education process to occur. The internet age and pace at which globalization is occurring sort of suits me and my lifestyle. I think thats what appeals to me about this art movement. It may also mean that it has no longevity. Its accessible and moving at pace. I am quite happy to buy art on impulse and regret it. In fact thats been part of the fun. The evolution of my collection has been based on trial and error a process that has allowed me to develop my taste. Great honest post Neil Yes, the main contributor's have been having a ball!! sparked off a great friendly discussion here |
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AMs work hanging..., by guest2 on Jul 29, 2008 23:20:26 GMT 1, ....... with big wallets, come many houses, and many walls
...and with great power - comes great responsibility. (so says uncle ben)
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AMs work hanging..., by graeme501 on Jul 29, 2008 23:20:38 GMT 1, Great contributions from Mose, James, Lou and Pez. To many points to comment on and to be honest at times each one of you have made points that have struck a cord with me. I think I would certainly like to explore this subject matter more and be educated further about the impact other art genres have had on this particular art scene and how this scene might evolve or disappear due to its inability or ability to cross over into or stimulate interest in the mainstream art world / market. The main question I have of myself is whether I have the time or the patience to allow that education process to occur. The internet age and pace at which globalization is occurring sort of suits me and my lifestyle. I think thats what appeals to me about this art movement. It may also mean that it has no longevity. Its accessible and moving at pace. I am quite happy to buy art on impulse and regret it. In fact thats been part of the fun. The evolution of my collection has been based on trial and error a process that has allowed me to develop my taste. Great honest post Neil Yes, the main contributor's have been having a ball!! sparked off a great friendly discussion here
t**t
Great contributions from Mose, James, Lou and Pez. To many points to comment on and to be honest at times each one of you have made points that have struck a cord with me. I think I would certainly like to explore this subject matter more and be educated further about the impact other art genres have had on this particular art scene and how this scene might evolve or disappear due to its inability or ability to cross over into or stimulate interest in the mainstream art world / market. The main question I have of myself is whether I have the time or the patience to allow that education process to occur. The internet age and pace at which globalization is occurring sort of suits me and my lifestyle. I think thats what appeals to me about this art movement. It may also mean that it has no longevity. Its accessible and moving at pace. I am quite happy to buy art on impulse and regret it. In fact thats been part of the fun. The evolution of my collection has been based on trial and error a process that has allowed me to develop my taste. Great honest post Neil Yes, the main contributor's have been having a ball!! sparked off a great friendly discussion here t**t |
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AMs work hanging..., by top on Jul 29, 2008 23:36:17 GMT 1, ....... with big wallets, come many houses, and many walls ...and with great power - comes great responsibility. (so says uncle ben)
Bloody hell!!! he's given up rice?
....... with big wallets, come many houses, and many walls ...and with great power - comes great responsibility. (so says uncle ben) Bloody hell!!! he's given up rice? |
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