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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by raiden on May 14, 2008 21:33:07 GMT 1, How many prints can Blek flood the market with at the moment? Please tell me he's going to stop releasing new prints for a while, or at least till all his prints languishing on Black Rat Press sell out!
By my count he's released over 1,500 new editions since his LA show just a little over a month ago.
Here's my feeling on Blek, I think he's a good buy overall because he's the godfather of street art and when they do all the museum retrospectives of this time period, Banksy will take center stage, while Blek Le Rat will be mentioned as the originator. They'll have his rat side by side with Banksy's and show his work in the first room as part of the "early period" display, etc.
Plus, I haven't seen Blek come up at auction yet and believe that when a piece of his does, it will beat estimates mostly for this "museum retrospective" reason and because his stuff is pretty and aesthetically French, which goes better on rich people's walls. I mean, if you're a stuffy, rich, sophisticate, Blek's Angel is pretty much where its at. Much easier to swallow for old money than, say Banksy's Napalm print.
That said, it all goes to shit if he's dumping print editions like Dali.
Fact is BRP and Blek are selling out the long time collectors with this dump of art.
Here's the counts...
LA Show
Angel - LA edition - 3 colours - 16-18 per colour (spelled it that way for you Brits) = 48 ed
Blek + Shepard Collaboration = 4 piece folio x 100 = 400 ed
London Show
Computer Man = 150 Ed
Dancer = 150 Ed
Death of Carravagio = 75 Ed
Diana and Angel = 100 Ed
Getting Through Walls Photo = 200 Ed
His Master - 4 Colour X 100 = 400 Ed
Jesus = 75 Ed
Running Man = 75 Ed
Grand Total = 1,675 New Prints on the Market since April
That's not counting the rat print in the new book. Was that another 100?
I can't believe how Blek has flooded the market. Perhaps he should spend less time making prints and more time coming up with new ideas for street art.
Seriously... Coming into the Cans Festival and stenciling just the same old "Walking through Walls" and "Sheep" ... that's phoning it in.
Hopefully Blek is reading this board... Here is my letter to him...
Blek,
Please make some new stencils. Preferrably ones that show you're still progressing as an artists, because you can only ride out this "god-father of street art" rep for so long. Tell me your new MO isn't just to cash out on your rep.
Stop screen printing! Back away from the screen printer. It is just doing you harm. I know making money on your art can be addictive. It starts with producing almost 2,000 ed in the span of two months, and next thing you know the addiction overtakes you till you hit the bottom - suddenly your work is sitting in the wall art bargain bin at Bed Bath and Beyond. (BRP, take away all pencils from the man before he signs and numbers another thing)
Now Blek, once you've undertaken 12 steps for your sudden screen printing addiction such that its in remission, you must get back to the things that made you successful.
Why don't you go bomb some walls? Perhaps show that you can still hang with the Nick Walkers and Banksy's of the world and aren't just the tired old grandpa in the corner whom everyone has been giving a free pass to as of late because you're some sort of legend. You want to know who else falls into the category of art legend Blek? Thomas Kinkade. Don't become street arts Thomas Kinkade, Blek. Don't.
This is your wake up call. Lets make some first steps. Throw out the sheep stencil. Just walk away. As a matter of fact, we've seen all of your stencils before. Lets get some new ones. And the good thing is, since you're French, anything you stencil immediately comes across as more Avant Garde than it really is, so go nuts. Just stencil a horse on a wall. Or something totally meaningless, like a filing cabinet. Don't worry, we'll all provide the meaning after the fact as people on message boards analyze and reanalyze precisely what you're trying to say.
And if you still have trouble coming up with a new stencil, honestly, just rip off Dolk and call it your own. Do it! You can probably get away with it anyhow because you came before him. Just claim that you were spray painting chimps with Banana's held up to their ear since 1988, and most of us will just have to take your word for it, because we were all still tagging our parents walls with Crayola at that point.
All I'm saying Blek, pull it together.
-R
How many prints can Blek flood the market with at the moment? Please tell me he's going to stop releasing new prints for a while, or at least till all his prints languishing on Black Rat Press sell out!
By my count he's released over 1,500 new editions since his LA show just a little over a month ago.
Here's my feeling on Blek, I think he's a good buy overall because he's the godfather of street art and when they do all the museum retrospectives of this time period, Banksy will take center stage, while Blek Le Rat will be mentioned as the originator. They'll have his rat side by side with Banksy's and show his work in the first room as part of the "early period" display, etc.
Plus, I haven't seen Blek come up at auction yet and believe that when a piece of his does, it will beat estimates mostly for this "museum retrospective" reason and because his stuff is pretty and aesthetically French, which goes better on rich people's walls. I mean, if you're a stuffy, rich, sophisticate, Blek's Angel is pretty much where its at. Much easier to swallow for old money than, say Banksy's Napalm print.
That said, it all goes to shit if he's dumping print editions like Dali.
Fact is BRP and Blek are selling out the long time collectors with this dump of art.
Here's the counts...
LA Show
Angel - LA edition - 3 colours - 16-18 per colour (spelled it that way for you Brits) = 48 ed
Blek + Shepard Collaboration = 4 piece folio x 100 = 400 ed
London Show
Computer Man = 150 Ed
Dancer = 150 Ed
Death of Carravagio = 75 Ed
Diana and Angel = 100 Ed
Getting Through Walls Photo = 200 Ed
His Master - 4 Colour X 100 = 400 Ed
Jesus = 75 Ed
Running Man = 75 Ed
Grand Total = 1,675 New Prints on the Market since April
That's not counting the rat print in the new book. Was that another 100?
I can't believe how Blek has flooded the market. Perhaps he should spend less time making prints and more time coming up with new ideas for street art.
Seriously... Coming into the Cans Festival and stenciling just the same old "Walking through Walls" and "Sheep" ... that's phoning it in.
Hopefully Blek is reading this board... Here is my letter to him...
Blek,
Please make some new stencils. Preferrably ones that show you're still progressing as an artists, because you can only ride out this "god-father of street art" rep for so long. Tell me your new MO isn't just to cash out on your rep.
Stop screen printing! Back away from the screen printer. It is just doing you harm. I know making money on your art can be addictive. It starts with producing almost 2,000 ed in the span of two months, and next thing you know the addiction overtakes you till you hit the bottom - suddenly your work is sitting in the wall art bargain bin at Bed Bath and Beyond. (BRP, take away all pencils from the man before he signs and numbers another thing)
Now Blek, once you've undertaken 12 steps for your sudden screen printing addiction such that its in remission, you must get back to the things that made you successful.
Why don't you go bomb some walls? Perhaps show that you can still hang with the Nick Walkers and Banksy's of the world and aren't just the tired old grandpa in the corner whom everyone has been giving a free pass to as of late because you're some sort of legend. You want to know who else falls into the category of art legend Blek? Thomas Kinkade. Don't become street arts Thomas Kinkade, Blek. Don't.
This is your wake up call. Lets make some first steps. Throw out the sheep stencil. Just walk away. As a matter of fact, we've seen all of your stencils before. Lets get some new ones. And the good thing is, since you're French, anything you stencil immediately comes across as more Avant Garde than it really is, so go nuts. Just stencil a horse on a wall. Or something totally meaningless, like a filing cabinet. Don't worry, we'll all provide the meaning after the fact as people on message boards analyze and reanalyze precisely what you're trying to say.
And if you still have trouble coming up with a new stencil, honestly, just rip off Dolk and call it your own. Do it! You can probably get away with it anyhow because you came before him. Just claim that you were spray painting chimps with Banana's held up to their ear since 1988, and most of us will just have to take your word for it, because we were all still tagging our parents walls with Crayola at that point.
All I'm saying Blek, pull it together.
-R
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by buffin on May 14, 2008 21:36:33 GMT 1, Think the rat print in the book was an edition of 250.
Think the rat print in the book was an edition of 250.
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by snakes on May 14, 2008 21:40:48 GMT 1, I think there were 250 prints in that posh book..
I think there were 250 prints in that posh book..
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by Heavyconsumer on May 14, 2008 21:47:10 GMT 1, Haha, you sound like someone who's angry because he buys for investment purposes and wants his collection to be a little exclusive so it wil retain value. No disrespect, but if you're just buying pieces because you like them who gives a sh1t? The images don't change with the values! You really seem pretty upset about it. Why? I'm sure if nothing else, Blek will be grateful for all your career advice, he's clearly not vey popular and needs a hand!
Maybe Blek doesn't give a toss about secondary market print values! I don't know. Why should artists worry about buyers who are only in it for the profits? Personally I think it's great that people who love Blek's work can buy it without the headache of oversubscription.
Haha, you sound like someone who's angry because he buys for investment purposes and wants his collection to be a little exclusive so it wil retain value. No disrespect, but if you're just buying pieces because you like them who gives a sh1t? The images don't change with the values! You really seem pretty upset about it. Why? I'm sure if nothing else, Blek will be grateful for all your career advice, he's clearly not vey popular and needs a hand!
Maybe Blek doesn't give a toss about secondary market print values! I don't know. Why should artists worry about buyers who are only in it for the profits? Personally I think it's great that people who love Blek's work can buy it without the headache of oversubscription.
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by snakes on May 14, 2008 21:49:31 GMT 1, Ps. Mr Banksy can you take a leaf out of Mr Bleks book please.
Release lots and lots of and lots of prints all at once and only allow one print per household..
Ta very much 
Ps. Mr Banksy can you take a leaf out of Mr Bleks book please. Release lots and lots of and lots of prints all at once and only allow one print per household.. Ta very much |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by bobbymeachamjr on May 14, 2008 21:52:53 GMT 1, Heavy, if you are a serious collector of anything from stamps to toys to whatever, its "worth" is of utmost importance.
Do you have any idea what traditional gallery-artist-collector relationships are about? In case you don't know, its a thing called money - difference is that its process is achieved with more integrity...
Heavy, if you are a serious collector of anything from stamps to toys to whatever, its "worth" is of utmost importance.
Do you have any idea what traditional gallery-artist-collector relationships are about? In case you don't know, its a thing called money - difference is that its process is achieved with more integrity...
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by mcnuts on May 14, 2008 22:04:24 GMT 1, great letter. me thinks Blek has cashed his chips in.
great letter. me thinks Blek has cashed his chips in.
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by Heavyconsumer on May 14, 2008 22:14:04 GMT 1, Heavy, if you are a serious collector of anything from stamps to toys to whatever, its "worth" is of utmost importance. Do you have any idea what traditional gallery-artist-collector relationships are about? In case you don't know, its a thing called money - difference is that its process is achieved with more integrity...
Hi Bobby, I'm not sure I consider myself a "serious collector".
I do buy prints and art that I like within the ambit of what Ican afford. If I get bored of a piece or change my mind later, it's bye bye. I think that the whole focus of collecting being so very focussed on financial gaine is the cause of all the negative aspects of this particular scene. There are way too many people (no finger pointing intended at all) who buy many of these prints with zero thought for whether they like them or not imo. We all know the results of this. While I was only turned on to the scene quite recently (last year) I respect that many members here have probably either made a lot of money or accumulated plenty of assett wealth from it, but I doubt that this was the intention of the artists when they were painting/spraying/drawing etc. I am also much more interested in the art itself than it's resale value. I guess if I had picked up all the old Banksies I may feel differently, but we all have our own perspectives!
Heavy, if you are a serious collector of anything from stamps to toys to whatever, its "worth" is of utmost importance. Do you have any idea what traditional gallery-artist-collector relationships are about? In case you don't know, its a thing called money - difference is that its process is achieved with more integrity... Hi Bobby, I'm not sure I consider myself a "serious collector". I do buy prints and art that I like within the ambit of what Ican afford. If I get bored of a piece or change my mind later, it's bye bye. I think that the whole focus of collecting being so very focussed on financial gaine is the cause of all the negative aspects of this particular scene. There are way too many people (no finger pointing intended at all) who buy many of these prints with zero thought for whether they like them or not imo. We all know the results of this. While I was only turned on to the scene quite recently (last year) I respect that many members here have probably either made a lot of money or accumulated plenty of assett wealth from it, but I doubt that this was the intention of the artists when they were painting/spraying/drawing etc. I am also much more interested in the art itself than it's resale value. I guess if I had picked up all the old Banksies I may feel differently, but we all have our own perspectives! |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by bobbyt23 on May 14, 2008 22:14:07 GMT 1, Personally I don't care if Blek is the Godfather of the Dalai Lama, in my opinion the vast majority of his stuff (artistically) is crap. His career is one big retrospective as in he repeats and repeats and repeats...
I agree. I dont care for any of his images. Just too boring.
Personally I don't care if Blek is the Godfather of the Dalai Lama, in my opinion the vast majority of his stuff (artistically) is crap. His career is one big retrospective as in he repeats and repeats and repeats... I agree. I dont care for any of his images. Just too boring. |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by Heavyconsumer on May 14, 2008 22:15:07 GMT 1, Personally I don't care if Blek is the Godfather of the Dalai Lama, in my opinion the vast majority of his stuff (artistically) is crap. His career is one big retrospective as in he repeats and repeats and repeats...
I find most of his images pretty boring too, but there are some I think are great.
Personally I don't care if Blek is the Godfather of the Dalai Lama, in my opinion the vast majority of his stuff (artistically) is crap. His career is one big retrospective as in he repeats and repeats and repeats... I find most of his images pretty boring too, but there are some I think are great. |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by onemandown72 on May 14, 2008 22:15:17 GMT 1, Sorry - what a load of b*llox.
Said it before, Banksy has released over 25,000 prints in 5 years, and I can't imagine there would be too much complaint if he carried on working at this rate.
For a man who has worked tirelessly for over 30 years I think he's earned the right to do what the f*ck he wants. I very much doubt he needs advice on what to do next from this forum.
Sorry - what a load of b*llox.
Said it before, Banksy has released over 25,000 prints in 5 years, and I can't imagine there would be too much complaint if he carried on working at this rate.
For a man who has worked tirelessly for over 30 years I think he's earned the right to do what the f*ck he wants. I very much doubt he needs advice on what to do next from this forum.
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by moleman on May 14, 2008 22:15:17 GMT 1, yes blek is old
but obey releases on average 400 a week and no one moans about that. good luck to him his stuff is iconic and at least its not like other stuff before. unlike the general disney or guns or war etc etc.
yes blek is old
but obey releases on average 400 a week and no one moans about that. good luck to him his stuff is iconic and at least its not like other stuff before. unlike the general disney or guns or war etc etc.
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by buffin on May 14, 2008 22:24:49 GMT 1, yes blek is old but obey releases on average 400 a week and no one moans about that. good luck to him his stuff is iconic and at least its not like other stuff before. unlike the general disney or guns or war etc etc.
Hold on a minute you can't compare this to Obey. The prints from there are only ยฃ25 or so.
yes blek is old but obey releases on average 400 a week and no one moans about that. good luck to him his stuff is iconic and at least its not like other stuff before. unlike the general disney or guns or war etc etc. Hold on a minute you can't compare this to Obey. The prints from there are only ยฃ25 or so. |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by alsbabar on May 14, 2008 22:29:23 GMT 1, if you dont care for any of his stuff, then dont bloody buy any. No one has the right to slag Blek or BRP off, and like onemandown said, he doesnt need your negative advice. If you recall his Resist Against the Imposter was released at White Noise in November, but didnt sell out till after Bonhams in February.
I myself would rather have a Blek on my wall, then half the crap I have seen for sale elsewhere, sometimes for more money!!!
if you dont care for any of his stuff, then dont bloody buy any. No one has the right to slag Blek or BRP off, and like onemandown said, he doesnt need your negative advice. If you recall his Resist Against the Imposter was released at White Noise in November, but didnt sell out till after Bonhams in February.
I myself would rather have a Blek on my wall, then half the crap I have seen for sale elsewhere, sometimes for more money!!!
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by bobbymeachamjr on May 14, 2008 22:30:54 GMT 1, Sorry - what a load of b*llox. Said it before, Banksy has released over 25,000 prints in 5 years, and I can't imagine there would be too much complaint if he carried on working at this rate. For a man who has worked tirelessly for over 30 years I think he's earned the right to do what the f*ck he wants. I very much doubt he needs advice on what to do next from this forum.
Totally irrelevant analogy. Banksy is a superstar, a public sensation. Blek is a niche artist who has a handful of fans. Sorry to be abrupt but thats just the way it is.
Sorry - what a load of b*llox. Said it before, Banksy has released over 25,000 prints in 5 years, and I can't imagine there would be too much complaint if he carried on working at this rate. For a man who has worked tirelessly for over 30 years I think he's earned the right to do what the f*ck he wants. I very much doubt he needs advice on what to do next from this forum. Totally irrelevant analogy. Banksy is a superstar, a public sensation. Blek is a niche artist who has a handful of fans. Sorry to be abrupt but thats just the way it is. |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by steve on May 14, 2008 22:31:43 GMT 1, I was a little surprised he never used something new at Cans. Maybe he's not getting a buzz out of his new stenciled images?
Of the new batch I think Dancer is a lovely image. wasn't too keen on any of the others.
Can't begrudge him making a few bob though. Must be pension time soon ;D
I was a little surprised he never used something new at Cans. Maybe he's not getting a buzz out of his new stenciled images?
Of the new batch I think Dancer is a lovely image. wasn't too keen on any of the others.
Can't begrudge him making a few bob though. Must be pension time soon ;D
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by alsbabar on May 14, 2008 22:32:43 GMT 1, Sorry - what a load of b*llox. Said it before, Banksy has released over 25,000 prints in 5 years, and I can't imagine there would be too much complaint if he carried on working at this rate. For a man who has worked tirelessly for over 30 years I think he's earned the right to do what the f*ck he wants. I very much doubt he needs advice on what to do next from this forum. Totally irrelevant analogy. Banksy is a superstar, a public sensation. Blek is a niche artist who has a handful of fans. Sorry to be abrupt but thats just the way it is.
bollocks, blek is a legend and has a massive following, if you went to his show last week you would have seen for yourself - so dont judge him on his prints - all his canvas's sold!!!
Sorry - what a load of b*llox. Said it before, Banksy has released over 25,000 prints in 5 years, and I can't imagine there would be too much complaint if he carried on working at this rate. For a man who has worked tirelessly for over 30 years I think he's earned the right to do what the f*ck he wants. I very much doubt he needs advice on what to do next from this forum. Totally irrelevant analogy. Banksy is a superstar, a public sensation. Blek is a niche artist who has a handful of fans. Sorry to be abrupt but thats just the way it is. bollocks, blek is a legend and has a massive following, if you went to his show last week you would have seen for yourself - so dont judge him on his prints - all his canvas's sold!!! |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by bobbymeachamjr on May 14, 2008 22:36:54 GMT 1, Heavy, if you are a serious collector of anything from stamps to toys to whatever, its "worth" is of utmost importance. Do you have any idea what traditional gallery-artist-collector relationships are about? In case you don't know, its a thing called money - difference is that its process is achieved with more integrity... Hi Bobby, I'm not sure I consider myself a "serious collector". I do buy prints and art that I like within the ambit of what Ican afford. If I get bored of a piece or change my mind later, it's bye bye. I think that the whole focus of collecting being so very focussed on financial gaine is the cause of all the negative aspects of this particular scene. There are way too many people (no finger pointing intended at all) who buy many of these prints with zero thought for whether they like them or not imo. We all know the results of this. While I was only turned on to the scene quite recently (last year) I respect that many members here have probably either made a lot of money or accumulated plenty of assett wealth from it, but I doubt that this was the intention of the artists when they were painting/spraying/drawing etc. I am also much more interested in the art itself than it's resale value. I guess if I had picked up all the old Banksies I may feel differently, but we all have our own perspectives!
Blame the artist then because once you charge high prices you bet people are gonna talk valuation...
Heavy, if you are a serious collector of anything from stamps to toys to whatever, its "worth" is of utmost importance. Do you have any idea what traditional gallery-artist-collector relationships are about? In case you don't know, its a thing called money - difference is that its process is achieved with more integrity... Hi Bobby, I'm not sure I consider myself a "serious collector". I do buy prints and art that I like within the ambit of what Ican afford. If I get bored of a piece or change my mind later, it's bye bye. I think that the whole focus of collecting being so very focussed on financial gaine is the cause of all the negative aspects of this particular scene. There are way too many people (no finger pointing intended at all) who buy many of these prints with zero thought for whether they like them or not imo. We all know the results of this. While I was only turned on to the scene quite recently (last year) I respect that many members here have probably either made a lot of money or accumulated plenty of assett wealth from it, but I doubt that this was the intention of the artists when they were painting/spraying/drawing etc. I am also much more interested in the art itself than it's resale value. I guess if I had picked up all the old Banksies I may feel differently, but we all have our own perspectives! Blame the artist then because once you charge high prices you bet people are gonna talk valuation... |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by bobbymeachamjr on May 14, 2008 22:38:39 GMT 1, No disrespect, Blek might be a legend (whatever that means) but hes a mere squirrel looking for a nut compared to Banksys following.
No disrespect, Blek might be a legend (whatever that means) but hes a mere squirrel looking for a nut compared to Banksys following.
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by moleman on May 14, 2008 22:39:11 GMT 1, ha ha superstar public sensation my god man get your head out of your arse he is an artist. a clever one with some good funny art and some times veiws but no more. I like his work ( some of it ) but superstar no.
ha ha superstar public sensation my god man get your head out of your arse he is an artist. a clever one with some good funny art and some times veiws but no more. I like his work ( some of it ) but superstar no.
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by Heavyconsumer on May 14, 2008 22:40:57 GMT 1, I wasn't moaning or blaming at all. I just don't think the more established artists on this scene are very worried about secondaty market print values in most cases. I know that some might be, but this is just a way for them to make money, especially someone like Blek, who's a proper street artist and all of a sudden he must be rolling in it, well good for him I say! If people wanna buy great, if they don't great. But this initial post was all about telling the artist he's doing something wrong! Seemed a bit off colour to me that's all. The one thing he isn't doing is putting a gun to our heads and saying "BUY or I'll shoot you."
I wasn't moaning or blaming at all. I just don't think the more established artists on this scene are very worried about secondaty market print values in most cases. I know that some might be, but this is just a way for them to make money, especially someone like Blek, who's a proper street artist and all of a sudden he must be rolling in it, well good for him I say! If people wanna buy great, if they don't great. But this initial post was all about telling the artist he's doing something wrong! Seemed a bit off colour to me that's all. The one thing he isn't doing is putting a gun to our heads and saying "BUY or I'll shoot you."
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by bobbymeachamjr on May 14, 2008 22:41:11 GMT 1, ha ha superstar public sensation my god man get your head out of your arse he is an artist. a clever one with some good funny art and some times veiws but no more. I like his work ( some of it ) but superstar no.
If you didn't know Banksys a superstar then I think you should really go out more...
ha ha superstar public sensation my god man get your head out of your arse he is an artist. a clever one with some good funny art and some times veiws but no more. I like his work ( some of it ) but superstar no. If you didn't know Banksys a superstar then I think you should really go out more... |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by alsbabar on May 14, 2008 22:41:49 GMT 1, bobby, banksy is not the be all and end all to all - and to me, Blek is a legend, not a fashion statement, but someone who pioneers new styles, new techniques, and I am sure to a lot of other collectors he is a legend also - including Banksy!!!!
bobby, banksy is not the be all and end all to all - and to me, Blek is a legend, not a fashion statement, but someone who pioneers new styles, new techniques, and I am sure to a lot of other collectors he is a legend also - including Banksy!!!!
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by bobbymeachamjr on May 14, 2008 22:44:29 GMT 1, I wasn't moaning or blaming at all. I just don't think the more established artists on this scene are very worried about secondaty market print values in most cases. I know that some might be, but this is just a way for them to make money, especially someone like Blek, who's a proper street artist and all of a sudden he must be rolling in it, well good for him I say! If people wanna buy great, if they don't great. But this initial post was all about telling the artist he's doing something wrong! Seemed a bit off colour to me that's all. The one thing he isn't doing is putting a gun to our heads and saying "BUY or I'll shoot you."
A collector has every right to moan - ie. Buyer x buys Micallef last summer @5k. Now its 1K because he dropped 2500 prints. Sorry but valuation is integral. Its just the way our society is.
I wasn't moaning or blaming at all. I just don't think the more established artists on this scene are very worried about secondaty market print values in most cases. I know that some might be, but this is just a way for them to make money, especially someone like Blek, who's a proper street artist and all of a sudden he must be rolling in it, well good for him I say! If people wanna buy great, if they don't great. But this initial post was all about telling the artist he's doing something wrong! Seemed a bit off colour to me that's all. The one thing he isn't doing is putting a gun to our heads and saying "BUY or I'll shoot you." A collector has every right to moan - ie. Buyer x buys Micallef last summer @5k. Now its 1K because he dropped 2500 prints. Sorry but valuation is integral. Its just the way our society is. |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by moleman on May 14, 2008 22:44:54 GMT 1, forget it half his followers on her are in it for money and the rest like his work, grow up will you he is a superstar in a very small part of the community. and most of them have never met him dont know him and take all they have read from books etc as the truth. As of twenty years ago he would of been a rebel or out cast, i dont think your veiws are wrong to you but they are very far fetched
forget it half his followers on her are in it for money and the rest like his work, grow up will you he is a superstar in a very small part of the community. and most of them have never met him dont know him and take all they have read from books etc as the truth. As of twenty years ago he would of been a rebel or out cast, i dont think your veiws are wrong to you but they are very far fetched
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by bobbymeachamjr on May 14, 2008 22:46:13 GMT 1, bobby, banksy is not the be all and end all to all - and to me, Blek is a legend, not a fashion statement, but someone who pioneers new styles, new techniques, and I am sure to a lot of other collectors he is a legend also - including Banksy!!!!
I'm not debating the artistic merits of Banksy. I'm just reiterating the fact that hes a superstar in the publics eye...
bobby, banksy is not the be all and end all to all - and to me, Blek is a legend, not a fashion statement, but someone who pioneers new styles, new techniques, and I am sure to a lot of other collectors he is a legend also - including Banksy!!!! I'm not debating the artistic merits of Banksy. I'm just reiterating the fact that hes a superstar in the publics eye... |
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by moleman on May 14, 2008 22:48:11 GMT 1, there are no blue peter banksy badges for sucking up ( but that would be a good print)
there are no blue peter banksy badges for sucking up ( but that would be a good print)
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by themightyreds on May 14, 2008 22:53:56 GMT 1, More prints the better for me.!
Means i can choose without rushing.
That being said, i did think that the prices were too high on the Blek show editions.
More prints the better for me.!
Means i can choose without rushing.
That being said, i did think that the prices were too high on the Blek show editions.
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by moleman on May 14, 2008 22:57:32 GMT 1, ithink they were high but as the popularity of this art goes up so willthe prices
i mean i have a dancer from the show what would happen if i said pm me for cost sale bet iwould get a few ( i do have one its not for sale)
ithink they were high but as the popularity of this art goes up so willthe prices
i mean i have a dancer from the show what would happen if i said pm me for cost sale bet iwould get a few ( i do have one its not for sale)
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Blek, Stop Releasing New Work! BRP Pay attention!, by Hoops on May 14, 2008 23:37:42 GMT 1,
I bought 1 of his Last Tango canvases about 2 years ago as the wife liked it and also had a sheep print which i later traded but he doesnt overly do it for me anymore and I find a lot of his images quite flat , but each to his own.
With regards to his works selling out though I find everyone has now just jumped on the bandwagon and can smell the flipping money ....Not one for the long run ( imho ) , but if you like the images then you cant go wrong.......... after all isnt that what this art game is supposed to be all about
ie BUYING AN IMAGE THAT YOU LIKE AND THAT YOU WANT ON YOUR WALL
I bought 1 of his Last Tango canvases about 2 years ago as the wife liked it and also had a sheep print which i later traded but he doesnt overly do it for me anymore and I find a lot of his images quite flat , but each to his own.
With regards to his works selling out though I find everyone has now just jumped on the bandwagon and can smell the flipping money ....Not one for the long run ( imho ) , but if you like the images then you cant go wrong.......... after all isnt that what this art game is supposed to be all about
ie BUYING AN IMAGE THAT YOU LIKE AND THAT YOU WANT ON YOUR WALL
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