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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deux Spin on Mar 19, 2011 8:00:14 GMT 1, Hmm... Nice Invader Rubik piece. Quite a low estimate too for such a big piece 
I'll be following the auction.
Hmm... Nice Invader Rubik piece. Quite a low estimate too for such a big piece I'll be following the auction. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by volvic on Mar 24, 2011 4:13:08 GMT 1, surprised nobody has mentioned the parla, probably the nicest watercolor i have ever seen.
surprised nobody has mentioned the parla, probably the nicest watercolor i have ever seen.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by rinaceirde on Mar 24, 2011 10:50:42 GMT 1, Some really super pieces in this sale estimates seem a little on the low side though Nola 2-3k?
Some really super pieces in this sale estimates seem a little on the low side though Nola 2-3k? |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wizzy on Mar 24, 2011 10:56:36 GMT 1, Some really super pieces in this sale estimates seem a little on the low side though Nola 2-3k?
A. Its only an estimate, so could go more.......or less.
B. Dont forget commission on top of hammer.
Some really super pieces in this sale estimates seem a little on the low side though Nola 2-3k? A. Its only an estimate, so could go more.......or less. B. Dont forget commission on top of hammer. |
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balibob
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by balibob on Mar 24, 2011 11:14:47 GMT 1, Some lovely pieces...Micallef, D*face test print and the Russell Young stuff. Havn't come accross a lot of his work before, i really must look harder.
Some lovely pieces...Micallef, D*face test print and the Russell Young stuff. Havn't come accross a lot of his work before, i really must look harder.
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connecta1
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by connecta1 on Mar 24, 2011 11:46:39 GMT 1, ...that Micallef is a stunner
...that Micallef is a stunner
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sakyamuni
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by sakyamuni on Mar 24, 2011 12:41:38 GMT 1, the adam Neate self portrait is great. I like the two Know hope and the large denning, much nicer than what you usually see at auctions by him. Curious to see how much it will sell...
the adam Neate self portrait is great. I like the two Know hope and the large denning, much nicer than what you usually see at auctions by him. Curious to see how much it will sell...
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by craigf on Mar 24, 2011 13:36:12 GMT 1, surprised nobody has mentioned the parla, probably the nicest watercolor i have ever seen.
I spotted it in the catalogue, but was keeping quiet about it  Very interested to see the level of detail when viewed in person rather than a photo
surprised nobody has mentioned the parla, probably the nicest watercolor i have ever seen. I spotted it in the catalogue, but was keeping quiet about it Very interested to see the level of detail when viewed in person rather than a photo |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deux Spin on Mar 26, 2011 8:43:39 GMT 1, Just got the catalogue through the post, excited about viewing the auction.
Just got the catalogue through the post, excited about viewing the auction.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by tobaum on Mar 26, 2011 15:37:47 GMT 1, Some really super pieces in this sale estimates seem a little on the low side though Nola 2-3k? A. Its only an estimate, so could go more.......or less. B. Dont forget commission on top of hammer.
Really? I never bought in an auction but I thought the lower estimate was actually the opening bid?
How does it works?
I might go in the battle for one of the pieces ;D
Edit: stated in the "terms and conditions"
3. Estimates. Estimates are designed to help buyers gauge what sort of sum might be involved for the purchase of a particular lot. The lower estimate may represent the reserve price and certainly will not be below it. Estimates do not include the Buyerβs Premium or VAT (where chargeable). Estimates are prepared some time before the sale and may be altered by announcement before the sale. They are in no sense definitive.
Some really super pieces in this sale estimates seem a little on the low side though Nola 2-3k? A. Its only an estimate, so could go more.......or less. B. Dont forget commission on top of hammer. Really? I never bought in an auction but I thought the lower estimate was actually the opening bid? How does it works? I might go in the battle for one of the pieces ;D Edit: stated in the "terms and conditions" 3. Estimates. Estimates are designed to help buyers gauge what sort of sum might be involved for the purchase of a particular lot. The lower estimate may represent the reserve price and certainly will not be below it. Estimates do not include the Buyerβs Premium or VAT (where chargeable). Estimates are prepared some time before the sale and may be altered by announcement before the sale. They are in no sense definitive. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Brushstrokes 75 on Mar 26, 2011 17:45:25 GMT 1, Auctions usually start at 50% of the lower estimate (but it's not a rule).
Afterwards there can be a reserve price that should be at a price lower than the low side of the estimate.
Auctions usually start at 50% of the lower estimate (but it's not a rule).
Afterwards there can be a reserve price that should be at a price lower than the low side of the estimate.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Pattycakes on Mar 26, 2011 18:06:27 GMT 1, 50% more like 30%
50% more like 30%
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Brushstrokes 75 on Mar 26, 2011 19:16:56 GMT 1, Depends also if they got a lot of absentee bids or not
Depends also if they got a lot of absentee bids or not
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tobaum
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by tobaum on Mar 27, 2011 19:57:17 GMT 1, Auctions usually start at 50% of the lower estimate (but it's not a rule). Afterwards there can be a reserve price that should be at a price lower than the low side of the estimate.
Thank you for the info
So I might have a chance ;D
Auctions usually start at 50% of the lower estimate (but it's not a rule). Afterwards there can be a reserve price that should be at a price lower than the low side of the estimate. Thank you for the info So I might have a chance ;D |
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Collection 1
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Collection 1 on Mar 27, 2011 22:07:33 GMT 1, Where can I buy a catalog? I would like one to keep for my personal archive.
Where can I buy a catalog? I would like one to keep for my personal archive.
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tobaum
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by tobaum on Mar 28, 2011 10:37:57 GMT 1, Where can I buy a catalog? I would like one to keep for my personal archive.
Send an email to catalogues@dnfa.com
Where can I buy a catalog? I would like one to keep for my personal archive. Send an email to catalogues@dnfa.com |
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Collection 1
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Collection 1 on Mar 31, 2011 3:21:52 GMT 1, thanks!
thanks!
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by inkheads on Apr 4, 2011 9:57:40 GMT 1, okay 2 days to go to get yourself registered for bids! wednesday is auction day! defo have alot of interest in bidding on a few of the pieces. imo its a much improved and better dnfa auction than some of the previous.
the nick walker is a stunner. that jose parla is a 'wink wink' good looker. alot of older US artists give a stronger, broader appeal... likes of blade, futura, LA2. (those auction results are always high.) then all the way upto the Neate.. good quality pieces. (scattered in a usual odd few really shit things) After the Neate... i loose all interest.
But, the sun will be shining and its gonna be hot... let the pockets do the talking, and begin a spring season of silly buying!
okay 2 days to go to get yourself registered for bids! wednesday is auction day! defo have alot of interest in bidding on a few of the pieces. imo its a much improved and better dnfa auction than some of the previous.
the nick walker is a stunner. that jose parla is a 'wink wink' good looker. alot of older US artists give a stronger, broader appeal... likes of blade, futura, LA2. (those auction results are always high.) then all the way upto the Neate.. good quality pieces. (scattered in a usual odd few really shit things) After the Neate... i loose all interest.
But, the sun will be shining and its gonna be hot... let the pockets do the talking, and begin a spring season of silly buying!
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wizzy on Apr 4, 2011 10:01:37 GMT 1, .......and dont forget the (almost) 25% extra commission to pay on top of hammer when you bid.
edit. 26.4% inc VAT.
IMO some auction houses are getting too greedy, they make from the seller and from the buyer, also add ons like ins. and extra for catalogue pics, also a percentage of reserve on unsold lots, greedy. So remember to bid only 75% of the value you reckon its worth!.
.......and dont forget the (almost) 25% extra commission to pay on top of hammer when you bid.
edit. 26.4% inc VAT.
IMO some auction houses are getting too greedy, they make from the seller and from the buyer, also add ons like ins. and extra for catalogue pics, also a percentage of reserve on unsold lots, greedy. So remember to bid only 75% of the value you reckon its worth!.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by hlarmy on Apr 4, 2011 10:43:19 GMT 1, okay 2 days to go to get yourself registered for bids! wednesday is auction day! defo have alot of interest in bidding on a few of the pieces. imo its a much improved and better dnfa auction than some of the previous. the nick walker is a stunner. that jose parla is a 'wink wink' good looker. alot of older US artists give a stronger, broader appeal... likes of blade, futura, LA2. (those auction results are always high.) then all the way upto the Neate.. good quality pieces. (scattered in a usual odd few really s**t things) After the Neate... i loose all interest. But, the sun will be shining and its gonna be hot... let the pockets do the talking, and begin a spring season of silly buying!
Is your name Mary by any chance
okay 2 days to go to get yourself registered for bids! wednesday is auction day! defo have alot of interest in bidding on a few of the pieces. imo its a much improved and better dnfa auction than some of the previous. the nick walker is a stunner. that jose parla is a 'wink wink' good looker. alot of older US artists give a stronger, broader appeal... likes of blade, futura, LA2. (those auction results are always high.) then all the way upto the Neate.. good quality pieces. (scattered in a usual odd few really s**t things) After the Neate... i loose all interest. But, the sun will be shining and its gonna be hot... let the pockets do the talking, and begin a spring season of silly buying! Is your name Mary by any chance |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by inkheads on Apr 4, 2011 13:19:03 GMT 1,
Is your name Mary by any chance [/quote]
no, no, no (in a high pitched ladies voice)
yes, all auction houses are on 25% now... greedy yes, but then everybody does quote when banksy or gemeos hit big prices, the total price sold... never the real hammer price!
so you cant have it both ways.
i wouldnt pay extra for cat fees, or photos, or reserves... you can haggle that.
Is your name Mary by any chance [/quote] no, no, no (in a high pitched ladies voice) yes, all auction houses are on 25% now... greedy yes, but then everybody does quote when banksy or gemeos hit big prices, the total price sold... never the real hammer price! so you cant have it both ways. i wouldnt pay extra for cat fees, or photos, or reserves... you can haggle that. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wizzy on Apr 4, 2011 13:26:58 GMT 1, Is your name Mary by any chance
no, no, no (in a high pitched ladies voice)
yes, all auction houses are on 25% now... greedy yes, but then everybody does quote when banksy or gemeos hit big prices, the total price sold... never the real hammer price!
so you cant have it both ways.
i wouldnt pay extra for cat fees, or photos, or reserves... you can haggle that.[/quote]
You are incorrect, all auction houses are NOT on 25% now, DNFA has always been high on commission rate.
Is your name Mary by any chance no, no, no (in a high pitched ladies voice) yes, all auction houses are on 25% now... greedy yes, but then everybody does quote when banksy or gemeos hit big prices, the total price sold... never the real hammer price! so you cant have it both ways. i wouldnt pay extra for cat fees, or photos, or reserves... you can haggle that.[/quote] You are incorrect, all auction houses are NOT on 25% now, DNFA has always been high on commission rate. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Warm Gun on Apr 4, 2011 22:09:58 GMT 1, So remember to bid only 75% of the value you reckon its worth!.
Good advice there Sir.
So remember to bid only 75% of the value you reckon its worth!. Good advice there Sir. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by rsj on Apr 4, 2011 22:52:16 GMT 1, So remember to bid only 75% of the value you reckon its worth!. Good advice there Sir.
I believe you should be bidding 79% of the value you think it's worth (instead of 75%).
So remember to bid only 75% of the value you reckon its worth!. Good advice there Sir. I believe you should be bidding 79% of the value you think it's worth (instead of 75%). |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wizzy on Apr 4, 2011 22:55:02 GMT 1, ..... 73.6%.
"The Conditions of sale obliges buyers to pay a buyer`s premium of 22% plus VAT (26.4% including VAT) up to Β£250,000, and 12% plus VAT (14.4% including VAT) in excess of Β£250,000"
..... 73.6%.
"The Conditions of sale obliges buyers to pay a buyer`s premium of 22% plus VAT (26.4% including VAT) up to Β£250,000, and 12% plus VAT (14.4% including VAT) in excess of Β£250,000"
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Damien on Apr 4, 2011 23:12:51 GMT 1, you'll need a calculator and some pen and paper at the auction at this rate haha
you'll need a calculator and some pen and paper at the auction at this rate haha
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by fingerz on Apr 4, 2011 23:20:00 GMT 1, 'strewth i dont think i'll bid my heads battered with the maths ... lol
'strewth i dont think i'll bid my heads battered with the maths ... lol
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by rsj on Apr 5, 2011 0:40:57 GMT 1, ..... 73.6%. "The Conditions of sale obliges buyers to pay a buyer`s premium of 22% plus VAT (26.4% including VAT) up to Β£250,000, and 12% plus VAT (14.4% including VAT) in excess of Β£250,000"
I'm afraid that is a common mathematical mistake. To clarify this for other members, the percentage is calculated by 1/1.264 (assuming the premium is indeed 26.4%), which equals 79.11% (to 4 significant digits), i.e. if Β£1000 is the maximum price you are willing to pay, then your maximum bid should be Β£791.1.
So, roughly, 80%. Just trying to help!
..... 73.6%. "The Conditions of sale obliges buyers to pay a buyer`s premium of 22% plus VAT (26.4% including VAT) up to Β£250,000, and 12% plus VAT (14.4% including VAT) in excess of Β£250,000" I'm afraid that is a common mathematical mistake. To clarify this for other members, the percentage is calculated by 1/1.264 (assuming the premium is indeed 26.4%), which equals 79.11% (to 4 significant digits), i.e. if Β£1000 is the maximum price you are willing to pay, then your maximum bid should be Β£791.1. So, roughly, 80%. Just trying to help! |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 5, 2011 0:52:39 GMT 1, RSJ is right. You should bid up to 79%.
Regarding Damien's comment, it should be good for anyone bidding at a real auction to have a higher limit not to go over that woud take into account the fees (unless you have unlimited funds or a piece you want desperately!).
People quote prices including premium because when you buy, you kind of include the fees in how much you're looking to spend ;D.
RSJ is right. You should bid up to 79%.
Regarding Damien's comment, it should be good for anyone bidding at a real auction to have a higher limit not to go over that woud take into account the fees (unless you have unlimited funds or a piece you want desperately!).
People quote prices including premium because when you buy, you kind of include the fees in how much you're looking to spend ;D.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Hubble Bubble on Apr 5, 2011 8:11:36 GMT 1, That's why I love this forum.
Not just lovers of art but proper clever folk too ;D
That's why I love this forum.
Not just lovers of art but proper clever folk too ;D
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Very interested to see the level of detail when viewed in person rather than a photo
