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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 16:22:07 GMT 1, hm.. very curous how it looks, really like the faile pieces! have you made a decision about the sale yet? Drweatts?
hm.. very curous how it looks, really like the faile pieces! have you made a decision about the sale yet? Drweatts?
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by pfffffffffft on Aug 16, 2008 17:06:59 GMT 1, If you are selling a faile I do not suggest dreweatts. of the top 20 auction results on faile all achieving 5K GBP up, only 1 was sold at dreweatts, #20.
Of the top 10 reselts:
29-06-08 Shanghai 18 Acrylic 189,902 USD - phillips
01-07-08 Mj And Challengers Acrylic 86,168 USD - christies
12-12-07 Agony Acrylic 75,961 USD -sothebys
15-10-07 Studio B Test In Black In Blue #3 Acrylic 71,546 USD -sothebys
15-10-07 Savage World London Stencil Acrylic 67,132 USD -sothebys
02-04-08 Smoking Silence Acrylic 55,000 USD -sothebys
28-02-08 Blue 2 Acrylic 53,890 USD -sothebys
03-04-08 There Were No Words Silkscreen 50,900 USD -phillips
28-02-08 The Savage World Acrylic 49,475 USD -sothebys
15-05-08 Master Of Love And Fate Acrylic 49,000 USD -sothebys
FYI: the savage world:
Title The Savage World
Medium Acrylic and spraypaint stencil on wood
Size (H x W x D) 20 x 11.9 in / 50.8 x 30.3 cm
If you are selling a faile I do not suggest dreweatts. of the top 20 auction results on faile all achieving 5K GBP up, only 1 was sold at dreweatts, #20.
Of the top 10 reselts:
29-06-08 Shanghai 18 Acrylic 189,902 USD - phillips
01-07-08 Mj And Challengers Acrylic 86,168 USD - christies
12-12-07 Agony Acrylic 75,961 USD -sothebys
15-10-07 Studio B Test In Black In Blue #3 Acrylic 71,546 USD -sothebys
15-10-07 Savage World London Stencil Acrylic 67,132 USD -sothebys
02-04-08 Smoking Silence Acrylic 55,000 USD -sothebys
28-02-08 Blue 2 Acrylic 53,890 USD -sothebys
03-04-08 There Were No Words Silkscreen 50,900 USD -phillips
28-02-08 The Savage World Acrylic 49,475 USD -sothebys
15-05-08 Master Of Love And Fate Acrylic 49,000 USD -sothebys
FYI: the savage world:
Title The Savage World
Medium Acrylic and spraypaint stencil on wood
Size (H x W x D) 20 x 11.9 in / 50.8 x 30.3 cm
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 17:12:19 GMT 1, To be fair to Dreweatts though they have only held one sale of this kind so far.
To be fair to Dreweatts though they have only held one sale of this kind so far.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by pfffffffffft on Aug 16, 2008 17:19:22 GMT 1, To be fair to Dreweatts though they have only held one sale of this kind so far.
I understand that but why go with a house that has little history with an artist when larger houses are achieving high prices on the same artist?
That and issues with internet bidding seem to me to be enough to take something like a faile piece and pass it along to sothebys...
edited to add: take something like a D*face hrh lenticular
feb 08 bonhams: 4800 GBP
jun 08 dreweatts: 1800 GBP
Dreweatts did well with banksy works but some of the lesser known artists arent achieving as high prices as they could with other houses.
To be fair to Dreweatts though they have only held one sale of this kind so far. I understand that but why go with a house that has little history with an artist when larger houses are achieving high prices on the same artist? That and issues with internet bidding seem to me to be enough to take something like a faile piece and pass it along to sothebys... edited to add: take something like a D*face hrh lenticular feb 08 bonhams: 4800 GBP jun 08 dreweatts: 1800 GBP Dreweatts did well with banksy works but some of the lesser known artists arent achieving as high prices as they could with other houses. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 17:25:19 GMT 1, To be fair to Dreweatts though they have only held one sale of this kind so far. I understand that but why go with a house that has little history with an artist when larger houses are achieving high prices on the same artist? That and issues with internet bidding seem to me to be enough to take something like a faile piece and pass it along to sothebys...
Fair point, it will be interesting to see what their next sale goes like. The choice is up to the seller in the end i suppose.
To be fair to Dreweatts though they have only held one sale of this kind so far. I understand that but why go with a house that has little history with an artist when larger houses are achieving high prices on the same artist? That and issues with internet bidding seem to me to be enough to take something like a faile piece and pass it along to sothebys... Fair point, it will be interesting to see what their next sale goes like. The choice is up to the seller in the end i suppose. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by fatherxmas on Aug 18, 2008 19:34:12 GMT 1, Dont really understand this, as the auctioneer at the beginning did state that if he missed any bidders he would continue the sale... Is that a usual thing to do at a professional auction house though? Continue bids after the hammer has fallen? I've not heard of it before, but then I've only been to a handful of auctions.
The understanding ive had and being to many property auctions from when i was knee high to now is that when the hammer falls. Thats the price wether it met the reserve or not.
There is no such thing as ooooooo wait i was meant to bid, cna we start it off again.
Personally gp, i would of accepted the Β£9800 bid and pull it out of the auction.
Like you say its funny how it just went over the reserve, inside dealings possibly..
Dont really understand this, as the auctioneer at the beginning did state that if he missed any bidders he would continue the sale... Is that a usual thing to do at a professional auction house though? Continue bids after the hammer has fallen? I've not heard of it before, but then I've only been to a handful of auctions. The understanding ive had and being to many property auctions from when i was knee high to now is that when the hammer falls. Thats the price wether it met the reserve or not. There is no such thing as ooooooo wait i was meant to bid, cna we start it off again. Personally gp, i would of accepted the Β£9800 bid and pull it out of the auction. Like you say its funny how it just went over the reserve, inside dealings possibly.. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 19:39:36 GMT 1, Is that a usual thing to do at a professional auction house though? Continue bids after the hammer has fallen? I've not heard of it before, but then I've only been to a handful of auctions. The understanding ive had and being to many property auctions from when i was knee high to now is that when the hammer falls. Thats the price wether it met the reserve or not. There is no such thing as ooooooo wait i was meant to bid, cna we start it off again. Personally gp, i would of accepted the Β£9800 bid and pull it out of the auction. Like you say its funny how it just went over the reserve, inside dealings possibly..
Sorry Fatherxmas that is incorrect, i too have attended auctions most of my life, it is all at the auctioneers discretion, if he wants to restart or resell a lot he can and will do so, i have seen a handful of occasions when this has happened and it always causes some kind of fuss.
Is that a usual thing to do at a professional auction house though? Continue bids after the hammer has fallen? I've not heard of it before, but then I've only been to a handful of auctions. The understanding ive had and being to many property auctions from when i was knee high to now is that when the hammer falls. Thats the price wether it met the reserve or not. There is no such thing as ooooooo wait i was meant to bid, cna we start it off again. Personally gp, i would of accepted the Β£9800 bid and pull it out of the auction. Like you say its funny how it just went over the reserve, inside dealings possibly.. Sorry Fatherxmas that is incorrect, i too have attended auctions most of my life, it is all at the auctioneers discretion, if he wants to restart or resell a lot he can and will do so, i have seen a handful of occasions when this has happened and it always causes some kind of fuss. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by fatherxmas on Aug 18, 2008 23:55:05 GMT 1, The understanding ive had and being to many property auctions from when i was knee high to now is that when the hammer falls. Thats the price wether it met the reserve or not. There is no such thing as ooooooo wait i was meant to bid, cna we start it off again. Personally gp, i would of accepted the Β£9800 bid and pull it out of the auction. Like you say its funny how it just went over the reserve, inside dealings possibly.. Sorry Fatherxmas that is incorrect, i too have attended auctions most of my life, it is all at the auctioneers discretion, if he wants to restart or resell a lot he can and will do so, i have seen a handful of occasions when this has happened and it always causes some kind of fuss.
Oh, This is news to me. Because why would he re-start/resell a lot?
Is it because he or she didnt see someone bidding?
I understand when soemthing doesnt meet a reserve @ the end of the auction you can come to a sort of agreement (property auction) but i dont know if this is the same with art auctions.
The understanding ive had and being to many property auctions from when i was knee high to now is that when the hammer falls. Thats the price wether it met the reserve or not. There is no such thing as ooooooo wait i was meant to bid, cna we start it off again. Personally gp, i would of accepted the Β£9800 bid and pull it out of the auction. Like you say its funny how it just went over the reserve, inside dealings possibly.. Sorry Fatherxmas that is incorrect, i too have attended auctions most of my life, it is all at the auctioneers discretion, if he wants to restart or resell a lot he can and will do so, i have seen a handful of occasions when this has happened and it always causes some kind of fuss. Oh, This is news to me. Because why would he re-start/resell a lot? Is it because he or she didnt see someone bidding? I understand when soemthing doesnt meet a reserve @ the end of the auction you can come to a sort of agreement (property auction) but i dont know if this is the same with art auctions. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 23:58:56 GMT 1, Hello Fatherxmas. The auctioneer always has say so in his or her auction room. I have been in attendance when someone has got there late or the "bidding up off the wall" has not gone according to plan or the seller has moaned and the lot has been re auctioned, it always causes a good deal of grief but it happens.
edit: To be honest i have not seen this happen at a dedicated Art sale though.
just for example and without predjudice.
www.bloomsburyauctions.com/info/conditions?PHPSESSID=574e390ab1698cb87857887ce1961baf
Hello Fatherxmas. The auctioneer always has say so in his or her auction room. I have been in attendance when someone has got there late or the "bidding up off the wall" has not gone according to plan or the seller has moaned and the lot has been re auctioned, it always causes a good deal of grief but it happens. edit: To be honest i have not seen this happen at a dedicated Art sale though. just for example and without predjudice. www.bloomsburyauctions.com/info/conditions?PHPSESSID=574e390ab1698cb87857887ce1961baf |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by orangematt on Aug 19, 2008 0:04:06 GMT 1, Ive also been to a fair number of auctions , and though it is rare it can happen ... the auctioneer misses a bidder ! hammer down then sees the bidder and apologises and continues the auction !! not a good scenario i agree ... but we are all human .
In the case being discussed the 'watcher' standing next to the auctioneer was pointing and saying new bidder to the auctioneer when he let the hammer fall and immediately retracted the action to include the bidder that the 'spotter' was telling him about ...
perfectly legitimate IMO
you couldn't decide to bid after hammer has fallen and expect the auction to open up again .. that NEVER happens .
edit : i have also been in auction rooms when the highest bidder suddenly 'disappears' !!! then often the auctioneer will open up bidding again starting with the under bidder or completely wiping the slate and starting again !
Ive also been to a fair number of auctions , and though it is rare it can happen ... the auctioneer misses a bidder ! hammer down then sees the bidder and apologises and continues the auction !! not a good scenario i agree ... but we are all human .
In the case being discussed the 'watcher' standing next to the auctioneer was pointing and saying new bidder to the auctioneer when he let the hammer fall and immediately retracted the action to include the bidder that the 'spotter' was telling him about ...
perfectly legitimate IMO
you couldn't decide to bid after hammer has fallen and expect the auction to open up again .. that NEVER happens .
edit : i have also been in auction rooms when the highest bidder suddenly 'disappears' !!! then often the auctioneer will open up bidding again starting with the under bidder or completely wiping the slate and starting again !
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by fatherxmas on Aug 19, 2008 0:15:50 GMT 1, Well this is news to me, ive never seen this before.
Well this is news to me, ive never seen this before.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by funster on Sept 15, 2008 15:26:20 GMT 1, A nice Os Gemeos I see, wonder what Mr Deich would think? 
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by jakek on Sept 15, 2008 15:41:39 GMT 1,
I know there were some mixed responses to the quality of work at the first dreweatts auction however it looks as though they've got some awesome pieces for this one.
I know there were some mixed responses to the quality of work at the first dreweatts auction however it looks as though they've got some awesome pieces for this one. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by samo on Sept 15, 2008 15:57:34 GMT 1, Thanks for the link Wizbong, I have to say they got some nice pieces in there upcoming auction.
Thanks for the link Wizbong, I have to say they got some nice pieces in there upcoming auction.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Sept 15, 2008 16:00:12 GMT 1, Ive got the DFace butterflies in the tummy now ;D ;D
Ive got the DFace butterflies in the tummy now ;D ;D
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by oneeye on Sept 15, 2008 16:02:24 GMT 1, That's a very impressive lineup!!! WOW!
The first Parla and Francis to go into auction. This is gonna be fun.
That's a very impressive lineup!!! WOW!
The first Parla and Francis to go into auction. This is gonna be fun.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by covertshadowops on Sept 15, 2008 16:06:16 GMT 1,
Dreweatts Urban auction catalogue up...
webpix.dnfa.com/pdf-catalogues/13045a.pdf
let the comments begin.
i will start with.... somebody tell Goldie to F.R.O from the paint world, and every bloody auction too and get back to making drum n bass... where he is very good at that.
Dreweatts Urban auction catalogue up... webpix.dnfa.com/pdf-catalogues/13045a.pdflet the comments begin. i will start with.... somebody tell Goldie to F.R.O from the paint world, and every bloody auction too and get back to making drum n bass... where he is very good at that. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Prescription Art on Sept 15, 2008 16:15:29 GMT 1, Some really nice pieces there (along with some quite bad ones...) - why the terrible quality on the photos though?
Some really nice pieces there (along with some quite bad ones...) - why the terrible quality on the photos though?
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by dotdot on Sept 15, 2008 16:16:15 GMT 1, A nice Os Gemeos I see, wonder what Mr Deich would think?
yes i wonder too.
Patricia sold in good faith... alas the seller probably needs the money.
Tis a tremendous image all the same ....
A nice Os Gemeos I see, wonder what Mr Deich would think? yes i wonder too. Patricia sold in good faith... alas the seller probably needs the money. Tis a tremendous image all the same .... |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Sept 15, 2008 16:17:21 GMT 1, Some really nice pieces there (along with some quite bad ones...) - why the terrible quality on the photos though?
I was thinking that, real bad quality images on some, some nice stuff in it though!.
Some really nice pieces there (along with some quite bad ones...) - why the terrible quality on the photos though? I was thinking that, real bad quality images on some, some nice stuff in it though!. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Alan Craig on Sept 15, 2008 16:18:58 GMT 1, I swapped it for a Neate from Elms, didn't know it was going to go straight into auction.
Not that I mind.
I swapped it for a Neate from Elms, didn't know it was going to go straight into auction.
Not that I mind.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by dotdot on Sept 15, 2008 16:19:14 GMT 1, btw some of the mic reserve pricing leaves a lot to be desired.
wcip reserve 800/1200 - i think not...
if the consignee agreed to this then they have more than a screw loose....
btw some of the mic reserve pricing leaves a lot to be desired.
wcip reserve 800/1200 - i think not...
if the consignee agreed to this then they have more than a screw loose....
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by dotdot on Sept 15, 2008 16:20:53 GMT 1, I swapped it for a Neate from Elms, didn't know it was going to go straight into auction. Not that I mind.
aha....
I swapped it for a Neate from Elms, didn't know it was going to go straight into auction. Not that I mind. aha.... |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by timba82 on Sept 15, 2008 16:25:00 GMT 1, that is going to be a top auction.
some wicked work up for grabs!
loving the 6 nick walker apish angels amongst a few
that is going to be a top auction.
some wicked work up for grabs!
loving the 6 nick walker apish angels amongst a few
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by skanky on Sept 15, 2008 16:26:00 GMT 1, Beautifull Os Gemeos piece ! Hope that one does well.
Beautifull Os Gemeos piece ! Hope that one does well.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Alan Craig on Sept 15, 2008 16:29:02 GMT 1, A nice Os Gemeos I see, wonder what Mr Deich would think? yes i wonder too. Patricia sold in good faith... alas the seller probably needs the money. Tis a tremendous image all the same ....
Hey dotdot, hope you're well
When I bought from Patricia, nothing had been sold,
so I know she sells in good faith, but none the less, her main aim is to sell.
A nice Os Gemeos I see, wonder what Mr Deich would think? yes i wonder too. Patricia sold in good faith... alas the seller probably needs the money. Tis a tremendous image all the same .... Hey dotdot, hope you're well When I bought from Patricia, nothing had been sold, so I know she sells in good faith, but none the less, her main aim is to sell. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Daniel Silk on Sept 15, 2008 16:37:27 GMT 1, Very impressive ;D
Very impressive ;D
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by lee3 on Sept 15, 2008 16:42:08 GMT 1, Interesting, thanks for posting. My quick thoughts are that it is a better collection than their previous urban art auction. There is one lot in there that I will be requesting a condition report on. On the whole though, unless they have reserves much lower than some of those low estimates, i beleive there will be more than a few bought in lots as I think this pricing will look agressive by the time this auction takes place. I hope I'm wrong on the latter but prevailing economic conditions are changing rapidly.
Interesting, thanks for posting. My quick thoughts are that it is a better collection than their previous urban art auction. There is one lot in there that I will be requesting a condition report on. On the whole though, unless they have reserves much lower than some of those low estimates, i beleive there will be more than a few bought in lots as I think this pricing will look agressive by the time this auction takes place. I hope I'm wrong on the latter but prevailing economic conditions are changing rapidly.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by edcase on Sept 15, 2008 16:42:24 GMT 1, Some great pieces. I will be there with bells on.
Some great pieces. I will be there with bells on.
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