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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by dmandpenfold on Oct 14, 2008 20:37:03 GMT 1, did anyone do a list this time, just got online so missed most of it
did anyone do a list this time, just got online so missed most of it
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Oct 14, 2008 20:37:37 GMT 1, >>>If you are going to bid Β£140K why not bid Β£150K to get it? <<< 1. i can't believe it even got to 140 2. you are the high bidder and now get to work with the auciton house and negotiate with the seller (while hearing what anyone else is willing to do) and perhaps make a deal at 140+ fees. 3. i can't believe it got a bid of 140 Question Would a possible scenario not be that at a reserve of Β£150k the reason the bidder did not go the extra Β£10k was that he was bidding the auction up?
it is certainly what went through my mind. if they are not going to sell at Β£140k whats the point in starting lower anway?
>>>If you are going to bid Β£140K why not bid Β£150K to get it? <<< 1. i can't believe it even got to 140 2. you are the high bidder and now get to work with the auciton house and negotiate with the seller (while hearing what anyone else is willing to do) and perhaps make a deal at 140+ fees. 3. i can't believe it got a bid of 140 Question Would a possible scenario not be that at a reserve of Β£150k the reason the bidder did not go the extra Β£10k was that he was bidding the auction up? it is certainly what went through my mind. if they are not going to sell at Β£140k whats the point in starting lower anway? |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by snausages on Oct 14, 2008 20:38:39 GMT 1, >>>If you are going to bid Β£140K why not bid Β£150K to get it? <<< Question Would a possible scenario not be that at a reserve of Β£150k the reason the bidder did not go the extra Β£10k was that he was bidding the auction up?
The underbidder probably was in at at 130 depending how they increment the bids. So the underbidder would have to make a big leap from 130 to 150.
And I'm also surprised it even reached 140, detonator is better piece.
>>>If you are going to bid Β£140K why not bid Β£150K to get it? <<< Question Would a possible scenario not be that at a reserve of Β£150k the reason the bidder did not go the extra Β£10k was that he was bidding the auction up? The underbidder probably was in at at 130 depending how they increment the bids. So the underbidder would have to make a big leap from 130 to 150. And I'm also surprised it even reached 140, detonator is better piece. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by moleman on Oct 14, 2008 20:38:58 GMT 1, when are the results up to see
when are the results up to see
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by onemandown72 on Oct 14, 2008 20:39:59 GMT 1, Before one and all scream doom & gloom is this a suprise in any way shape or form. The bigger more established artists did OK, how widely acknowleged is the auction house? How many large collectors are going to be buying work that is so new, and so untested from an investment point of view (as top dollar work is bought from this mindset). This is a regional auction house, that is holding it's second Urban art auction with a few very nice pieces, some OK stuf and a lot of art that has only recently been sold on the primary market. It's a buyers market.
Compare this to the upcoming Sothebys / Christies auctions. Next Christies auction Banksy is under Warhol in the artist refine list. Entry wise you've got Banksy 5, Faile 1, Neate 1, Blek 3, Nick Walker 2 and the quality of work is top notch. It always was seller beware with Dreweatts, and clearly remains so.
Before one and all scream doom & gloom is this a suprise in any way shape or form. The bigger more established artists did OK, how widely acknowleged is the auction house? How many large collectors are going to be buying work that is so new, and so untested from an investment point of view (as top dollar work is bought from this mindset). This is a regional auction house, that is holding it's second Urban art auction with a few very nice pieces, some OK stuf and a lot of art that has only recently been sold on the primary market. It's a buyers market.
Compare this to the upcoming Sothebys / Christies auctions. Next Christies auction Banksy is under Warhol in the artist refine list. Entry wise you've got Banksy 5, Faile 1, Neate 1, Blek 3, Nick Walker 2 and the quality of work is top notch. It always was seller beware with Dreweatts, and clearly remains so.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Photoxtc on Oct 14, 2008 20:41:43 GMT 1, The D*face decks must have been signed no?  ? 
The D*face decks must have been signed no? ? the Decks were from a member here, I don't think they were signed but maybe he can shed some light on it... But I doubt they were, it was more about the packaging |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by snausages on Oct 14, 2008 20:42:36 GMT 1, It always was seller beware with Dreweatts, and clearly remains so.
But Drewatts brought in Β£800,000 last time 
It always was seller beware with Dreweatts, and clearly remains so. But Drewatts brought in Β£800,000 last time |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by papillon on Oct 14, 2008 20:43:27 GMT 1, anyone know how ian francis faired?
anyone know how ian francis faired?
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by bradpitt on Oct 14, 2008 20:43:56 GMT 1, The D*face decks must have been signed no? ? the Decks were from a member here, I don't think they were signed but maybe he can shed some light on it... But I doubt they were, it was more about the packaging
They were also up for sale in a gallery recently for Β£7500  not signed but a nice box 
The D*face decks must have been signed no? ? the Decks were from a member here, I don't think they were signed but maybe he can shed some light on it... But I doubt they were, it was more about the packaging They were also up for sale in a gallery recently for Β£7500 not signed but a nice box |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Graffiti Prints on Oct 14, 2008 20:43:58 GMT 1, drewetts r muppets that invite muppets look at the prices somethings got vs somethings that got passed d face decks 1200 + 20% fook me? muppets, idoits i dunno, the really good stuff not overpriced did sell e.g dstq, big banksy buyers, dont do drewett auctions selling 400 quid canvases.
as expected all artist that summit stuff always sell (funny that!!!!!), if u seen the crowd at the last one it was not big buyers who spend. the walker pieces were v weak and did look v expensive now although i loved the giesha.
that banksy was the nuts even at 150k i dont think long term thats a bad bet. plus u look at it everyday i wish i had the cash i would buy it at 150k.
drewetts r muppets that invite muppets look at the prices somethings got vs somethings that got passed d face decks 1200 + 20% fook me? muppets, idoits i dunno, the really good stuff not overpriced did sell e.g dstq, big banksy buyers, dont do drewett auctions selling 400 quid canvases.
as expected all artist that summit stuff always sell (funny that!!!!!), if u seen the crowd at the last one it was not big buyers who spend. the walker pieces were v weak and did look v expensive now although i loved the giesha.
that banksy was the nuts even at 150k i dont think long term thats a bad bet. plus u look at it everyday i wish i had the cash i would buy it at 150k.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by jellya on Oct 14, 2008 20:44:02 GMT 1, Question Would a possible scenario not be that at a reserve of Β£150k the reason the bidder did not go the extra Β£10k was that he was bidding the auction up? The underbidder probably was in at at 130 depending how they increment the bids. So the underbidder would have to make a big leap from 130 to 150. And I'm also surprised it even reached 140, detonator is better piece.
What happens if you're the highest bidder at Β£140k and would like to pay $150k in order that you got it?
Question Would a possible scenario not be that at a reserve of Β£150k the reason the bidder did not go the extra Β£10k was that he was bidding the auction up? The underbidder probably was in at at 130 depending how they increment the bids. So the underbidder would have to make a big leap from 130 to 150. And I'm also surprised it even reached 140, detonator is better piece. What happens if you're the highest bidder at Β£140k and would like to pay $150k in order that you got it? |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by fatherxmas on Oct 14, 2008 20:47:02 GMT 1, DFace (British) Sadamned, 2006, Canvas - Β£2,800
I was quite shocked at the quality of this piece. IMO It wernt that well looked after.
But with fees and all that Β£3500 is a bargain imo
I know who bought this and good on him.
DFace (British) Sadamned, 2006, Canvas - Β£2,800 I was quite shocked at the quality of this piece. IMO It wernt that well looked after. But with fees and all that Β£3500 is a bargain imo I know who bought this and good on him. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by veralynn on Oct 14, 2008 20:48:07 GMT 1, You're knackered and you've missed it generally......
You're knackered and you've missed it generally......
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by onemandown72 on Oct 14, 2008 20:48:22 GMT 1, It always was seller beware with Dreweatts, and clearly remains so. But Drewatts brought in Β£800,000 last time
I mean it's far higher risk than more established auction houses, if you have a decent work you go to Sotheby's Chrsities. If they don't consign you can sit tight and try again, or take the bigger risk of taking a punt on auction houses like Dreweatts. Yes they did bring in Β£800,000, and thus a lot of people gambled that they could have a great sale again.
It always was seller beware with Dreweatts, and clearly remains so. But Drewatts brought in Β£800,000 last time I mean it's far higher risk than more established auction houses, if you have a decent work you go to Sotheby's Chrsities. If they don't consign you can sit tight and try again, or take the bigger risk of taking a punt on auction houses like Dreweatts. Yes they did bring in Β£800,000, and thus a lot of people gambled that they could have a great sale again. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by bobbymeachamjr on Oct 14, 2008 20:51:43 GMT 1, Basic marketing, you bring in crap you get crap bidding. C'mon, faile confessions print? Their last auction was littered with newbie artists. This is like a nyc sample sale or going to Century 21 for 2nd rate high end fashion. Yes, you have the names but you don't get the overall quality...
Basic marketing, you bring in crap you get crap bidding. C'mon, faile confessions print? Their last auction was littered with newbie artists. This is like a nyc sample sale or going to Century 21 for 2nd rate high end fashion. Yes, you have the names but you don't get the overall quality...
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by snausages on Oct 14, 2008 20:53:40 GMT 1, But Drewatts brought in Β£800,000 last time I mean it's far higher risk than more established auction houses, if you have a decent work you go to Sotheby's Chrsities. If they don't consign you can sit tight and try again, or take the bigger risk of taking a punt on auction houses like Dreweatts. Yes they did bring in Β£800,000, and thus a lot of people gambled that they could have a great sale again.
Well true, as long as you can be patient and can wait. And I was amazed Drewatts did so well the first time. Maybe it was just in the right time and place for that first auction?
But Drewatts brought in Β£800,000 last time I mean it's far higher risk than more established auction houses, if you have a decent work you go to Sotheby's Chrsities. If they don't consign you can sit tight and try again, or take the bigger risk of taking a punt on auction houses like Dreweatts. Yes they did bring in Β£800,000, and thus a lot of people gambled that they could have a great sale again. Well true, as long as you can be patient and can wait. And I was amazed Drewatts did so well the first time. Maybe it was just in the right time and place for that first auction? |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by mishco on Oct 14, 2008 20:55:25 GMT 1, The D*face decks must have been signed no? ? the Decks were from a member here, I don't think they were signed but maybe he can shed some light on it... But I doubt they were, it was more about the packaging
i don't understand the description with it stating screenprint and acrylic.
mine certainly doesn't look like a screenprint
The D*face decks must have been signed no? ? the Decks were from a member here, I don't think they were signed but maybe he can shed some light on it... But I doubt they were, it was more about the packaging i don't understand the description with it stating screenprint and acrylic. mine certainly doesn't look like a screenprint |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by loucastel on Oct 14, 2008 21:03:30 GMT 1, It's been thoroughly enjoyable listening to the auction, and then reading through the posts on here, and the number of excuses for the poor performances, crap auction house, to high reserves, top names but weak peices, cmon everybody knows that six months ago a lot of people had a different outlook to urban art, it was a new and exciting genre, the art buying public are a fickle lot and their interest wanes quickly, and if this lot had gone up for sale six months ago I think the result would have been very different, prices are now coming down to a more realistic level, with even I am sure more downward price corrections to come, here's hoping ehh!!!!
It's been thoroughly enjoyable listening to the auction, and then reading through the posts on here, and the number of excuses for the poor performances, crap auction house, to high reserves, top names but weak peices, cmon everybody knows that six months ago a lot of people had a different outlook to urban art, it was a new and exciting genre, the art buying public are a fickle lot and their interest wanes quickly, and if this lot had gone up for sale six months ago I think the result would have been very different, prices are now coming down to a more realistic level, with even I am sure more downward price corrections to come, here's hoping ehh!!!!
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Oct 14, 2008 21:04:51 GMT 1, the Decks were from a member here, I don't think they were signed but maybe he can shed some light on it... But I doubt they were, it was more about the packaging i don't understand the description with it stating screenprint and acrylic. mine certainly doesn't look like a screenprint
they got a lot of descriptions wrong, that little os gemeos was a giclee and not a screen print, the micallefs ed 50's said screen prints and they were lithos. they were lots of other mistakes.
the Decks were from a member here, I don't think they were signed but maybe he can shed some light on it... But I doubt they were, it was more about the packaging i don't understand the description with it stating screenprint and acrylic. mine certainly doesn't look like a screenprint they got a lot of descriptions wrong, that little os gemeos was a giclee and not a screen print, the micallefs ed 50's said screen prints and they were lithos. they were lots of other mistakes. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by graeme501 on Oct 14, 2008 21:05:53 GMT 1, what did the micallefs go for? they had a very low estimate
what did the micallefs go for? they had a very low estimate
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by moleman on Oct 14, 2008 21:07:24 GMT 1, ha ha when it was all going for thousands more than expected it was you cant price work from auction there fulll of people with to much money
Now there not selling its panic panic its all collapse
it cant keep growing in the present credit market
you can either lap up the art you may of always dreamed of at a nice price and hope it will go up or just be happuy with what you have and smile
BUT it may go lower its all so obvious staring you in the face if you have bought any massive print in the last 8 months im afraid you may have some great work but you may regret paying in a boom
I never thought i would agree with the state ment buy it if you can live with it but its all there in black and white
ha ha when it was all going for thousands more than expected it was you cant price work from auction there fulll of people with to much money
Now there not selling its panic panic its all collapse
it cant keep growing in the present credit market
you can either lap up the art you may of always dreamed of at a nice price and hope it will go up or just be happuy with what you have and smile
BUT it may go lower its all so obvious staring you in the face if you have bought any massive print in the last 8 months im afraid you may have some great work but you may regret paying in a boom
I never thought i would agree with the state ment buy it if you can live with it but its all there in black and white
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by burnz on Oct 14, 2008 21:07:27 GMT 1, It's been thoroughly enjoyable listening to the auction, and then reading through the posts on here, and the number of excuses for the poor performances, crap auction house, to high reserves, top names but weak peices, cmon everybody knows that six months ago a lot of people had a different outlook to urban art, it was a new and exciting genre, the art buying public are a fickle lot and their interest wanes quickly, and if this lot had gone up for sale six months ago I think the result would have been very different, prices are now coming down to a more realistic level, with even I am sure more downward price corrections to come, here's hoping ehh!!!!
spot on
It's been thoroughly enjoyable listening to the auction, and then reading through the posts on here, and the number of excuses for the poor performances, crap auction house, to high reserves, top names but weak peices, cmon everybody knows that six months ago a lot of people had a different outlook to urban art, it was a new and exciting genre, the art buying public are a fickle lot and their interest wanes quickly, and if this lot had gone up for sale six months ago I think the result would have been very different, prices are now coming down to a more realistic level, with even I am sure more downward price corrections to come, here's hoping ehh!!!! spot on |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Photoxtc on Oct 14, 2008 21:07:40 GMT 1, what did the micallefs go for? they had a very low estimate
I'm pretty sure they all went for around Half of what they cost at Laz...
what did the micallefs go for? they had a very low estimate I'm pretty sure they all went for around Half of what they cost at Laz... |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by dogant on Oct 14, 2008 21:08:03 GMT 1, Conor Harrington (Irish, b. 1980) Untitled, 2005, Spray paint and acrylic on canvas laid, on board, - Β£2,000 NOT SOLD not too s**t hot at putting stuff into auctions either alsbabar
I think he might be.......something springs to mind and I am sure he posted a picture a while back.
If that was you - Alsababar - you are smarter than most!
;D
Conor Harrington (Irish, b. 1980) Untitled, 2005, Spray paint and acrylic on canvas laid, on board, - Β£2,000 NOT SOLD not too s**t hot at putting stuff into auctions either alsbabar I think he might be.......something springs to mind and I am sure he posted a picture a while back. If that was you - Alsababar - you are smarter than most! ;D |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by kentkid on Oct 14, 2008 21:10:25 GMT 1, Hi, does anyone know what the Micallef 'Bomber Girl' went for?
Hi, does anyone know what the Micallef 'Bomber Girl' went for?
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by pfffffffffft on Oct 14, 2008 21:11:05 GMT 1, DFace (British) Sadamned, 2006, Canvas - Β£2,800 I was quite shocked at the quality of this piece. IMO It wernt that well looked after. But with fees and all that Β£3500 is a bargain imo I know who bought this and good on him.
Well, I think that was the market price before the auction and it seems to me, with the exception of the D* cli che on metal, all of the D*s held steady market value while everything else either declined or didnt sell if you include fees and premiums.
Cli Che print at 1375 all in
DSTQ at 6000 all in
Saddamned at 3500 all in
Dead Beatle at 5625 all in (with damage)
D* Decks at 1750 all in
The che on metal was pretty weak at 3750 all in
Dreweatts has never done well with D*, they sold a lenticular at auction for about half of what Bonhams sold one for a few months prior. So as a collector of D I am actually pretty pleased.
Curious though, for you Parla fans, 11,875 all in on that watercolor. Was that what you guys expected it to go for?
DFace (British) Sadamned, 2006, Canvas - Β£2,800 I was quite shocked at the quality of this piece. IMO It wernt that well looked after. But with fees and all that Β£3500 is a bargain imo I know who bought this and good on him. Well, I think that was the market price before the auction and it seems to me, with the exception of the D* cli che on metal, all of the D*s held steady market value while everything else either declined or didnt sell if you include fees and premiums. Cli Che print at 1375 all in DSTQ at 6000 all in Saddamned at 3500 all in Dead Beatle at 5625 all in (with damage) D* Decks at 1750 all in The che on metal was pretty weak at 3750 all in Dreweatts has never done well with D*, they sold a lenticular at auction for about half of what Bonhams sold one for a few months prior. So as a collector of D I am actually pretty pleased. Curious though, for you Parla fans, 11,875 all in on that watercolor. Was that what you guys expected it to go for? |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by dogant on Oct 14, 2008 21:13:39 GMT 1, DFace (British) Cli-Che, 2008, Screenprint on metal, Unframed, 70cm x 50cm, Β£3,000
That sold at a loss then - where they not 4k+ at the BRP print show in Feb?
DFace (British) Cli-Che, 2008, Screenprint on metal, Unframed, 70cm x 50cm, Β£3,000 That sold at a loss then - where they not 4k+ at the BRP print show in Feb? |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by loucastel on Oct 14, 2008 21:16:54 GMT 1, I was quite shocked at the quality of this piece. IMO It wernt that well looked after. But with fees and all that Β£3500 is a bargain imo I know who bought this and good on him. Well, I think that was the market price before the auction and it seems to me, with the exception of the D* cli che on metal, all of the D*s held steady market value while everything else either declined or didnt sell if you include fees and premiums. Cli Che print at 1375 all in DSTQ at 6000 all in Saddamned at 3500 all in Dead Beatle at 5625 all in (with damage) D* Decks at 1750 all in The che on metal was pretty weak at 3750 all in Dreweatts has never done well with D*, they sold a lenticular at auction for about half of what Bonhams sold one for a few months prior. So as a collector of D I am actually pretty pleased. Curious though, for you Parla fans, 11,875 all in on that watercolor. Was that what you guys expected it to go for?
Rumour has it, which I am sure is totally unfounded, that there was only Xmas and Jboy bidding on the dface stuff.
I think also that the parla party was expecting a bit more than this!!
I was quite shocked at the quality of this piece. IMO It wernt that well looked after. But with fees and all that Β£3500 is a bargain imo I know who bought this and good on him. Well, I think that was the market price before the auction and it seems to me, with the exception of the D* cli che on metal, all of the D*s held steady market value while everything else either declined or didnt sell if you include fees and premiums. Cli Che print at 1375 all in DSTQ at 6000 all in Saddamned at 3500 all in Dead Beatle at 5625 all in (with damage) D* Decks at 1750 all in The che on metal was pretty weak at 3750 all in Dreweatts has never done well with D*, they sold a lenticular at auction for about half of what Bonhams sold one for a few months prior. So as a collector of D I am actually pretty pleased. Curious though, for you Parla fans, 11,875 all in on that watercolor. Was that what you guys expected it to go for? Rumour has it, which I am sure is totally unfounded, that there was only Xmas and Jboy bidding on the dface stuff. I think also that the parla party was expecting a bit more than this!! |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Daniel Silk on Oct 14, 2008 21:19:05 GMT 1, DFace (British) Cli-Che, 2008, Screenprint on metal, Unframed, 70cm x 50cm, Β£3,000 That sold at a loss then - where they not 4k+ at the BRP print show in Feb?
I seem to remember more like Β£750 or Β£1,250
DFace (British) Cli-Che, 2008, Screenprint on metal, Unframed, 70cm x 50cm, Β£3,000 That sold at a loss then - where they not 4k+ at the BRP print show in Feb? I seem to remember more like Β£750 or Β£1,250 |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by pfffffffffft on Oct 14, 2008 21:20:07 GMT 1, DFace (British) Cli-Che, 2008, Screenprint on metal, Unframed, 70cm x 50cm, Β£3,000 That sold at a loss then - where they not 4k+ at the BRP print show in Feb?
Yes, that one was the only one of the D*s that sold under. Those works on metal are always a bit weird. I think photoxtc knows the original price on that one.
Those ian francis' were a steal, had I known I would have bid them both.
DFace (British) Cli-Che, 2008, Screenprint on metal, Unframed, 70cm x 50cm, Β£3,000 That sold at a loss then - where they not 4k+ at the BRP print show in Feb? Yes, that one was the only one of the D*s that sold under. Those works on metal are always a bit weird. I think photoxtc knows the original price on that one. Those ian francis' were a steal, had I known I would have bid them both. |
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not signed but a nice box 
