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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by manchestermike on Nov 28, 2007 18:04:07 GMT 1, Applause (u) ยฃ550
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Applause (u) ยฃ550
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Harveyn on Nov 28, 2007 18:04:12 GMT 1, Banksy (b.1975) applause ยฃ550
Banksy (b.1975) applause ยฃ550
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Harveyn on Nov 28, 2007 18:05:42 GMT 1, Jesus Mike you are quick. Did I even beat you on one... ;D ;D ;D (Alt Tab Cut Paste just was not good enough!!!)
Jesus Mike you are quick. Did I even beat you on one... ;D ;D ;D (Alt Tab Cut Paste just was not good enough!!!)
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corisma
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by corisma on Nov 28, 2007 18:06:19 GMT 1, Radar Rat ... 4.9k
Radar Rat ... 4.9k
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by manchestermike on Nov 28, 2007 18:06:42 GMT 1,
shock & awe and man who walks through walls coming up ;D
shock & awe and man who walks through walls coming up ;D
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Cocteau 101 on Nov 28, 2007 18:07:13 GMT 1, Remember all those prices need to have the 22% added. That is true isn't it. So a ยฃ750 print soon becomes 1k.
Remember all those prices need to have the 22% added. That is true isn't it. So a ยฃ750 print soon becomes 1k.
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by manchestermike on Nov 28, 2007 18:07:52 GMT 1, Remember all those prices need to have the 22% added. That is true isn't it. So a ยฃ750 print soon becomes 1k.
correct mate, 22.5% added to all the hammer prices...
Remember all those prices need to have the 22% added. That is true isn't it. So a ยฃ750 print soon becomes 1k. correct mate, 22.5% added to all the hammer prices...
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corisma
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by corisma on Nov 28, 2007 18:08:15 GMT 1, only kiddin sry gettin bored
only kiddin sry gettin bored
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jonpud on Nov 28, 2007 18:08:21 GMT 1, MWWTW Lets guess........ยฃ225 !!?
MWWTW Lets guess........ยฃ225 !!?
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by dmandpenfold on Nov 28, 2007 18:08:33 GMT 1, Remember all those prices need to have the 22% added. That is true isn't it. So a ยฃ750 print soon becomes 1k. correct mate, 22.5% added to all the hammer prices...
+4% artists resale rights to a lot of them also
Remember all those prices need to have the 22% added. That is true isn't it. So a ยฃ750 print soon becomes 1k. correct mate, 22.5% added to all the hammer prices... +4% artists resale rights to a lot of them also
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frank11
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by frank11 on Nov 28, 2007 18:09:01 GMT 1,
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jonpud on Nov 28, 2007 18:09:29 GMT 1, Guess..... Shock and Awe..... ยฃ275....?
Guess..... Shock and Awe..... ยฃ275....?
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Montubu7 on Nov 28, 2007 18:09:35 GMT 1, WHERE WAS THE ยฃ5K RADAR RAT
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by manchestermike on Nov 28, 2007 18:09:47 GMT 1,
It didn't mate... no radar rat for sale
It didn't mate... no radar rat for sale
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by stuey09 on Nov 28, 2007 18:10:01 GMT 1, I did consider that Pud, but if the seller isn't willing to part with the work at the price offered then I believe that the offer doesn't necessarily reflect the value. It only reflects it if the seller parts with it at the offered price.
That's my logic anyway mate
I did consider that Pud, but if the seller isn't willing to part with the work at the price offered then I believe that the offer doesn't necessarily reflect the value. It only reflects it if the seller parts with it at the offered price. That's my logic anyway mate
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jonpud on Nov 28, 2007 18:10:40 GMT 1, I did consider that Pud, but if the seller isn't willing to part with the work at the price offered then I believe that the offer doesn't necessarily reflect the value. It only reflects it if the seller parts with it at the offered price. That's my logic anyway mate
I'll go with that!!
I did consider that Pud, but if the seller isn't willing to part with the work at the price offered then I believe that the offer doesn't necessarily reflect the value. It only reflects it if the seller parts with it at the offered price. That's my logic anyway mate I'll go with that!!
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by manchestermike on Nov 28, 2007 18:10:45 GMT 1, Blek - Shock & Awe: ยฃ150
Blek - Shock & Awe: ยฃ150
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frank11
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by frank11 on Nov 28, 2007 18:10:47 GMT 1,
;D I nearly shat myself!!!! ;D
;D I nearly shat myself!!!! ;D
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by manchestermike on Nov 28, 2007 18:11:01 GMT 1, MWWTW: ยฃ130
MWWTW: ยฃ130
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jonpud on Nov 28, 2007 18:12:04 GMT 1, Blek - Shock & Awe: ยฃ150 Steal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blek - Shock & Awe: ยฃ150 Steal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by ratpack on Nov 28, 2007 18:12:02 GMT 1, Remember all those prices need to have the 22% added. That is true isn't it. So a ยฃ750 print soon becomes 1k. correct mate, 22.5% added to all the hammer prices...
Wait til the 60k Lenin print at the end!
Remember all those prices need to have the 22% added. That is true isn't it. So a ยฃ750 print soon becomes 1k. correct mate, 22.5% added to all the hammer prices... Wait til the 60k Lenin print at the end!
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corisma
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by corisma on Nov 28, 2007 18:12:05 GMT 1, Yeah v true .. that 22.5% would make a big difference bringing most upto a more reasonable value imo
Yeah v true .. that 22.5% would make a big difference bringing most upto a more reasonable value imo
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by stuey09 on Nov 28, 2007 18:16:07 GMT 1,
Oh, so CND sold for more than Grannies. CBL, over to you
Oh, so CND sold for more than Grannies. CBL, over to you
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corisma
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by corisma on Nov 28, 2007 18:16:26 GMT 1, ;D I nearly shat myself!!!! ;D
sry Frank .. just to clarify
NO RADAR RAT WAS GIVEN AWAY FREE TO A GOOD HOME TODAY
;D I nearly shat myself!!!! ;D sry Frank .. just to clarify NO RADAR RAT WAS GIVEN AWAY FREE TO A GOOD HOME TODAY
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jam on Nov 28, 2007 18:16:27 GMT 1, Your absolutely on the nail Jam. A lot of these won't be selling, so therefore are not necessarily an accurate reflection of value. Sorry Stuey, kind of disagree with you here, the value is only what the buyer is willing to currently pay! Prices are slightly down at the moment so if they do not hit reserve accross the board then the reserves have been set too high! The reserve is the price that the seller thinks they are worth, not what the current market value dictates!!?
'Value is only what the buyer is willing to currently pay' is only half the transaction though. I have original pieces that I would not sell for anywhere near what I would be offered on any given day does that mean they aren't worth that price to the buyer, perhaps, but as the seller, they are worth it to me. If I choose to place a floor on what I would accept for a piece at auction, and the potential buyer does not want to pay that price... he doesn't get the work. There is a disparity between what someone may be willing to pay and what the market will actually bear... somewhere in that gap is the actual fair market value. That number would lean more toward the sellers number more often than not, unless there is an anomaly in the market such as the seller needing to offload something, or other factors such as time of the year related to holiday or taxes. I watched the prices, and I would only have bid if it was a steal... just out for a bit of bargain hunting and hoping someone would dump something cheap before the holiday, that is certainly not a reflection of fair market value.
Your absolutely on the nail Jam. A lot of these won't be selling, so therefore are not necessarily an accurate reflection of value. Sorry Stuey, kind of disagree with you here, the value is only what the buyer is willing to currently pay! Prices are slightly down at the moment so if they do not hit reserve accross the board then the reserves have been set too high! The reserve is the price that the seller thinks they are worth, not what the current market value dictates!!? 'Value is only what the buyer is willing to currently pay' is only half the transaction though. I have original pieces that I would not sell for anywhere near what I would be offered on any given day does that mean they aren't worth that price to the buyer, perhaps, but as the seller, they are worth it to me. If I choose to place a floor on what I would accept for a piece at auction, and the potential buyer does not want to pay that price... he doesn't get the work. There is a disparity between what someone may be willing to pay and what the market will actually bear... somewhere in that gap is the actual fair market value. That number would lean more toward the sellers number more often than not, unless there is an anomaly in the market such as the seller needing to offload something, or other factors such as time of the year related to holiday or taxes. I watched the prices, and I would only have bid if it was a steal... just out for a bit of bargain hunting and hoping someone would dump something cheap before the holiday, that is certainly not a reflection of fair market value.
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corisma
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by corisma on Nov 28, 2007 18:22:26 GMT 1, I agree Jam .. these buyers may have no interest in Banksy / Micallef at all but will bid simply because they think they might get a bargain .. It'd be a worrying time & place to let prints go through with no reserve at all
I agree Jam .. these buyers may have no interest in Banksy / Micallef at all but will bid simply because they think they might get a bargain .. It'd be a worrying time & place to let prints go through with no reserve at all
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by buster on Nov 28, 2007 18:23:00 GMT 1, ;D I nearly shat myself!!!! ;D I did
;D I nearly shat myself!!!! ;D I did
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by stuey09 on Nov 28, 2007 18:27:42 GMT 1, Big thanks to Mike and Harveyn for keeping us upto date.
Big thanks to Mike and Harveyn for keeping us upto date.
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jonpud on Nov 28, 2007 18:28:08 GMT 1, Sorry Stuey, kind of disagree with you here, the value is only what the buyer is willing to currently pay! Prices are slightly down at the moment so if they do not hit reserve accross the board then the reserves have been set too high! The reserve is the price that the seller thinks they are worth, not what the current market value dictates!!? 'Value is only what the buyer is willing to currently pay' is only half the transaction though. I have original pieces that I would not sell for anywhere near what I would be offered on any given day does that mean they aren't worth that price to the buyer, perhaps, but as the seller, they are worth it to me. If I choose to place a floor on what I would accept for a piece at auction, and the potential buyer does not want to pay that price... he doesn't get the work. There is a disparity between what someone may be willing to pay and what the market will actually bear... somewhere in that gap is the actual fair market value. That number would lean more toward the sellers number more often than not, unless there is an anomaly in the market such as the seller needing to offload something, or other factors such as time of the year related to holiday or taxes. I watched the prices, and I would only have bid if it was a steal... just out for a bit of bargain hunting and hoping someone would dump something cheap before the holiday, that is certainly not a reflection of fair market value. Fair point, well put and no argument from me mate!!
Sorry Stuey, kind of disagree with you here, the value is only what the buyer is willing to currently pay! Prices are slightly down at the moment so if they do not hit reserve accross the board then the reserves have been set too high! The reserve is the price that the seller thinks they are worth, not what the current market value dictates!!? 'Value is only what the buyer is willing to currently pay' is only half the transaction though. I have original pieces that I would not sell for anywhere near what I would be offered on any given day does that mean they aren't worth that price to the buyer, perhaps, but as the seller, they are worth it to me. If I choose to place a floor on what I would accept for a piece at auction, and the potential buyer does not want to pay that price... he doesn't get the work. There is a disparity between what someone may be willing to pay and what the market will actually bear... somewhere in that gap is the actual fair market value. That number would lean more toward the sellers number more often than not, unless there is an anomaly in the market such as the seller needing to offload something, or other factors such as time of the year related to holiday or taxes. I watched the prices, and I would only have bid if it was a steal... just out for a bit of bargain hunting and hoping someone would dump something cheap before the holiday, that is certainly not a reflection of fair market value. Fair point, well put and no argument from me mate!!
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