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Kaws does Smurfs, by skrillz26 on Jul 20, 2009 23:54:23 GMT 1, couturesoles.com/2009/07/20/kaws-x-smurf/
I'm sure you have seen the Family Guy Kaws and the Jetsons. For those who haven't seen the Smurfs as of yet there they go.
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Kaws does Smurfs, by Prescription Art on Jul 21, 2009 3:10:50 GMT 1, Terrible.
Terrible.
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Kaws does Smurfs, by Prescription Art on Jul 21, 2009 3:23:37 GMT 1, Technically, Kaws doesn't do anything any half competent artist could do.
So I guess people are buying into his message? So what is the message.... that consumerism has gone mad, and that a little branding turns the mundane into a hugely desirable item that people will fight over the privelege of paying thousands for. It's the artistic equivalent of walking round in huge Chanel sunglasses with a Louis Vuitton bag slung over your shoulder. IMO it's nothing more than art as a means of showing off how rich you are.
His ad disruptions were great, but now he's turned into exactly one of those brands that he was previously subverting.
Spending thousands on a handbag won't make your life any more fulfilled... and neither will spending thousands on a Kaws 'artwork'.
Technically, Kaws doesn't do anything any half competent artist could do.
So I guess people are buying into his message? So what is the message.... that consumerism has gone mad, and that a little branding turns the mundane into a hugely desirable item that people will fight over the privelege of paying thousands for. It's the artistic equivalent of walking round in huge Chanel sunglasses with a Louis Vuitton bag slung over your shoulder. IMO it's nothing more than art as a means of showing off how rich you are.
His ad disruptions were great, but now he's turned into exactly one of those brands that he was previously subverting.
Spending thousands on a handbag won't make your life any more fulfilled... and neither will spending thousands on a Kaws 'artwork'.
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Kaws does Smurfs, by Deleted on Jul 21, 2009 3:27:32 GMT 1, Technically, Kaws doesn't do anything any half competent artist could do. So I guess people are buying into his message? So what is the message.... that consumerism has gone mad, and that a little branding turns the mundane into a hugely desirable item that people will fight over the privelege of paying thousands for. It's the artistic equivalent of walking round in huge Chanel sunglasses with a Louis Vuitton bag slung over your shoulder. IMO it's nothing more than art as a means of showing off how rich you are. His ad disruptions were great, but now he's turned into exactly one of those brands that he was previously subverting. Spending thousands on a handbag won't make your life any more fulfilled... and neither will spending thousands on a Kaws 'artwork'.
Technically, Kaws doesn't do anything any half competent artist could do. So I guess people are buying into his message? So what is the message.... that consumerism has gone mad, and that a little branding turns the mundane into a hugely desirable item that people will fight over the privelege of paying thousands for. It's the artistic equivalent of walking round in huge Chanel sunglasses with a Louis Vuitton bag slung over your shoulder. IMO it's nothing more than art as a means of showing off how rich you are. His ad disruptions were great, but now he's turned into exactly one of those brands that he was previously subverting. Spending thousands on a handbag won't make your life any more fulfilled... and neither will spending thousands on a Kaws 'artwork'.
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Kaws does Smurfs, by Simococo on Jul 21, 2009 4:39:39 GMT 1, I think the product painting series is a pretty accurate comment on where we find ourselves at this point in art history More about value and ownership than the love
Its warholian
The fact that it is expensive is because lots of people want them
Will it make you fulfilled? Maybe, maybe not, but its a picture after all and not a cure for baldness
And the technique point is without validation because most art discussed on this forum could be reproduced by any half decent A Level Art student
I think the product painting series is a pretty accurate comment on where we find ourselves at this point in art history More about value and ownership than the love
Its warholian
The fact that it is expensive is because lots of people want them
Will it make you fulfilled? Maybe, maybe not, but its a picture after all and not a cure for baldness
And the technique point is without validation because most art discussed on this forum could be reproduced by any half decent A Level Art student
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Kaws does Smurfs, by Deleted on Jul 21, 2009 7:59:43 GMT 1, dire
dire
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Kaws does Smurfs, by Guest on Jul 21, 2009 9:13:02 GMT 1, Money for nothing
Money for nothing
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Kaws does Smurfs, by stopki on Jul 21, 2009 9:51:11 GMT 1, sorry hes by far more talented than alot of the crap on here i see.
sorry. truth.
sorry hes by far more talented than alot of the crap on here i see.
sorry. truth.
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Kaws does Smurfs, by Deleted on Jul 21, 2009 10:30:26 GMT 1, sorry that's really not saying much at all,
sorry that's really not saying much at all,
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Kaws does Smurfs, by stopki on Jul 21, 2009 11:36:48 GMT 1, sorry that's really not saying much at all,
what are you saying... or are you not saying much!
sorry that's really not saying much at all, what are you saying... or are you not saying much!
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Kaws does Smurfs, by leumasdarnley on Jul 21, 2009 11:37:08 GMT 1, Hate society not Kaws ....
Hate society not Kaws ....
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Kaws does Smurfs, by arcam1 on Jul 21, 2009 12:28:45 GMT 1, Well I like them.......
Well I like them.......
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Kaws does Smurfs, by jamesreeve5 on Jul 21, 2009 16:57:48 GMT 1, If you are going to spend that kind of money for a Kaws, then why not throw in the extra cash for a Murakami?
If you are going to spend that kind of money for a Kaws, then why not throw in the extra cash for a Murakami?
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Kaws does Smurfs, by bullet on Jul 21, 2009 17:34:38 GMT 1, kaws are just hype, like bape. nothing special.
kaws are just hype, like bape. nothing special.
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Kaws does Smurfs, by snausages on Jul 21, 2009 17:35:08 GMT 1, Yeah but Kaws is definitely cheaper than Murakami, but you could get a minor murakami canvas for about the price of a big Kaws, personal decisions I guess. I'm not sure which I would choose, would depend on the paintings. I'm not a huge Kaws fan but there is something good going on with him. How good, I'm not sure, but it's stronger than the majority of work coming out of the streets.
I think the product paintings are kind of funnyโthey're making a jab at collectors and painting and how it's been commodified. Yet collectors still buy them. It reminds me of how (to paraphrase Dan Graham) Lichtenstein was taking cheap comics and putting it on canvas to destroy painting. Yet it didn't destroy painting, everyone loves and pays dearly for them, go figure?
Some interesting parallels between the conceptual artists (60s to 80s) who wanted to make work that was or would become worthless and used unstable cheap materials etc. And street artists who make ephemeral works, whose primary goal wasn't to make valuable paintingsโ although that seems to have changed, and is part of the problem with the scene. So I can see the point someone made about the ad disruptions vs. the gallery work. But this dichotomy is a problem for many artists in this genre, not just Kaws.
Ths show might be good to check out if you find these ideas interesting www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibit/exhibitDetail.asp?eventID=13787 Target Practice: Painting Under Attack 1949โ78
Yeah but Kaws is definitely cheaper than Murakami, but you could get a minor murakami canvas for about the price of a big Kaws, personal decisions I guess. I'm not sure which I would choose, would depend on the paintings. I'm not a huge Kaws fan but there is something good going on with him. How good, I'm not sure, but it's stronger than the majority of work coming out of the streets. I think the product paintings are kind of funnyโthey're making a jab at collectors and painting and how it's been commodified. Yet collectors still buy them. It reminds me of how (to paraphrase Dan Graham) Lichtenstein was taking cheap comics and putting it on canvas to destroy painting. Yet it didn't destroy painting, everyone loves and pays dearly for them, go figure? Some interesting parallels between the conceptual artists (60s to 80s) who wanted to make work that was or would become worthless and used unstable cheap materials etc. And street artists who make ephemeral works, whose primary goal wasn't to make valuable paintingsโ although that seems to have changed, and is part of the problem with the scene. So I can see the point someone made about the ad disruptions vs. the gallery work. But this dichotomy is a problem for many artists in this genre, not just Kaws. Ths show might be good to check out if you find these ideas interesting www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibit/exhibitDetail.asp?eventID=13787Target Practice: Painting Under Attack 1949โ78
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Kaws does Smurfs, by olivier on Jul 21, 2009 18:16:51 GMT 1, Yeah but Kaws is definitely cheaper than Murakami, but you could get a minor murakami canvas for about the price of a big Kaws, personal decisions I guess. I'm not sure which I would choose, would depend on the paintings. I'm not a huge Kaws fan but there is something good going on with him. How good, I'm not sure, but it's stronger than the majority of work coming out of the streets. I think the product paintings are kind of funnyโthey're making a jab at collectors and painting and how it's been commodified. Yet collectors still buy them. It reminds me of how (to paraphrase Dan Graham) Lichtenstein was taking cheap comics and putting it on canvas to destroy painting. Yet it didn't destroy painting, everyone loves and pays dearly for them, go figure? Some interesting parallels between the conceptual artists (60s to 80s) who wanted to make work that was or would become worthless and used unstable cheap materials etc. And street artists who make ephemeral works, whose primary goal wasn't to make valuable paintingsโ although that seems to have changed, and is part of the problem with the scene. So I can see the point someone made about the ad disruptions vs. the gallery work. But this dichotomy is a problem for many artists in this genre, not just Kaws. Ths show might be good to check out if you find these ideas interesting www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibit/exhibitDetail.asp?eventID=13787Target Practice: Painting Under Attack 1949โ78
very insightful analysis, snaussages. excellent post!
Yeah but Kaws is definitely cheaper than Murakami, but you could get a minor murakami canvas for about the price of a big Kaws, personal decisions I guess. I'm not sure which I would choose, would depend on the paintings. I'm not a huge Kaws fan but there is something good going on with him. How good, I'm not sure, but it's stronger than the majority of work coming out of the streets. I think the product paintings are kind of funnyโthey're making a jab at collectors and painting and how it's been commodified. Yet collectors still buy them. It reminds me of how (to paraphrase Dan Graham) Lichtenstein was taking cheap comics and putting it on canvas to destroy painting. Yet it didn't destroy painting, everyone loves and pays dearly for them, go figure? Some interesting parallels between the conceptual artists (60s to 80s) who wanted to make work that was or would become worthless and used unstable cheap materials etc. And street artists who make ephemeral works, whose primary goal wasn't to make valuable paintingsโ although that seems to have changed, and is part of the problem with the scene. So I can see the point someone made about the ad disruptions vs. the gallery work. But this dichotomy is a problem for many artists in this genre, not just Kaws. Ths show might be good to check out if you find these ideas interesting www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibit/exhibitDetail.asp?eventID=13787Target Practice: Painting Under Attack 1949โ78 very insightful analysis, snaussages. excellent post!
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Kaws does Smurfs, by jamesreeve5 on Jul 21, 2009 19:37:11 GMT 1, Yeah but Kaws is definitely cheaper than Murakami, but you could get a minor murakami canvas for about the price of a big Kaws, personal decisions I guess. I'm not sure which I would choose, would depend on the paintings. I'm not a huge Kaws fan but there is something good going on with him. How good, I'm not sure, but it's stronger than the majority of work coming out of the streets. I think the product paintings are kind of funnyโthey're making a jab at collectors and painting and how it's been commodified. Yet collectors still buy them. It reminds me of how (to paraphrase Dan Graham) Lichtenstein was taking cheap comics and putting it on canvas to destroy painting. Yet it didn't destroy painting, everyone loves and pays dearly for them, go figure? Some interesting parallels between the conceptual artists (60s to 80s) who wanted to make work that was or would become worthless and used unstable cheap materials etc. And street artists who make ephemeral works, whose primary goal wasn't to make valuable paintingsโ although that seems to have changed, and is part of the problem with the scene. So I can see the point someone made about the ad disruptions vs. the gallery work. But this dichotomy is a problem for many artists in this genre, not just Kaws. Ths show might be good to check out if you find these ideas interesting www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibit/exhibitDetail.asp?eventID=13787Target Practice: Painting Under Attack 1949โ78
I've always thought of Kaws as an extension of Lichtenstein as well!
And thanks for that link... it's the first time I've seen a Nikki de Saint-Phalle that didn't make me want to throw up.
I think this was one of your best posts snausages. You managed to explain many of the questions not only on this thread, but several threads of the past week (not sure if this was intentional or not). First and foremost, you've managed to hit at the root of the inherent problem of the current state of the street art market. Secondly, you've managed to address the question of why spunk on a newspaper clipping or a pile of dirty diapers is considered art.
Yeah but Kaws is definitely cheaper than Murakami, but you could get a minor murakami canvas for about the price of a big Kaws, personal decisions I guess. I'm not sure which I would choose, would depend on the paintings. I'm not a huge Kaws fan but there is something good going on with him. How good, I'm not sure, but it's stronger than the majority of work coming out of the streets. I think the product paintings are kind of funnyโthey're making a jab at collectors and painting and how it's been commodified. Yet collectors still buy them. It reminds me of how (to paraphrase Dan Graham) Lichtenstein was taking cheap comics and putting it on canvas to destroy painting. Yet it didn't destroy painting, everyone loves and pays dearly for them, go figure? Some interesting parallels between the conceptual artists (60s to 80s) who wanted to make work that was or would become worthless and used unstable cheap materials etc. And street artists who make ephemeral works, whose primary goal wasn't to make valuable paintingsโ although that seems to have changed, and is part of the problem with the scene. So I can see the point someone made about the ad disruptions vs. the gallery work. But this dichotomy is a problem for many artists in this genre, not just Kaws. Ths show might be good to check out if you find these ideas interesting www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibit/exhibitDetail.asp?eventID=13787Target Practice: Painting Under Attack 1949โ78 I've always thought of Kaws as an extension of Lichtenstein as well! And thanks for that link... it's the first time I've seen a Nikki de Saint-Phalle that didn't make me want to throw up. I think this was one of your best posts snausages. You managed to explain many of the questions not only on this thread, but several threads of the past week (not sure if this was intentional or not). First and foremost, you've managed to hit at the root of the inherent problem of the current state of the street art market. Secondly, you've managed to address the question of why spunk on a newspaper clipping or a pile of dirty diapers is considered art.
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Kaws does Smurfs, by snausages on Jul 21, 2009 22:16:53 GMT 1, Problem with street art is it's antisocial and anticorporate nature, it's the punk rock of the art world. When major corporations started co-opting and distributing punk bands, the end was nigh, Same here, when you see artnet (for one example) blistering the internet with ads for street art, kiss it goodbye. The two worlds are diametrically opposed right? But on the other hand many true punk bands are still important today and sound as relevant as ever and it's influence is widespread. But it's heyday came and went. I expect street art (circa 2002-08) to have a similar fate, it's not dead, Banksy, Faile etc. will go on, there will continue to be new practitioners, but it's heyday has come and gone I think. Maybe in a few years or another decade it will rejuvenate itself into something fresh again?
As for Kaws, I don't think the street vs gallery work is that great of a conceptual problem. I don't think his ad disruptions were truly meant to be an attack on consumerism, at least not in the way that stuff like shepard fairey's work was. Which is one of several reasons why I think his work has become so conceptually flat and lacking overall importance. With Kaws I just feel like ok, another slick painting of spongebob or the smurfs, just doesn't mean much really. But some of his work has been strong. We'll see how he progresses.
Problem with street art is it's antisocial and anticorporate nature, it's the punk rock of the art world. When major corporations started co-opting and distributing punk bands, the end was nigh, Same here, when you see artnet (for one example) blistering the internet with ads for street art, kiss it goodbye. The two worlds are diametrically opposed right? But on the other hand many true punk bands are still important today and sound as relevant as ever and it's influence is widespread. But it's heyday came and went. I expect street art (circa 2002-08) to have a similar fate, it's not dead, Banksy, Faile etc. will go on, there will continue to be new practitioners, but it's heyday has come and gone I think. Maybe in a few years or another decade it will rejuvenate itself into something fresh again?
As for Kaws, I don't think the street vs gallery work is that great of a conceptual problem. I don't think his ad disruptions were truly meant to be an attack on consumerism, at least not in the way that stuff like shepard fairey's work was. Which is one of several reasons why I think his work has become so conceptually flat and lacking overall importance. With Kaws I just feel like ok, another slick painting of spongebob or the smurfs, just doesn't mean much really. But some of his work has been strong. We'll see how he progresses.
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Kaws does Smurfs, by bonesy on Jul 21, 2009 22:29:43 GMT 1,
Im a fan of his overall body of work but he has been on this cartoon thing for far to long. His recent Sponge Bob canvas's had some elements of where I think we will see him go next (the geometric shapes and such).
Im a fan of his overall body of work but he has been on this cartoon thing for far to long. His recent Sponge Bob canvas's had some elements of where I think we will see him go next (the geometric shapes and such).
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Kaws does Smurfs, by rosstierney on Jul 22, 2009 0:37:48 GMT 1,
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Kaws does Smurfs, by meatbag on Jul 22, 2009 3:13:10 GMT 1, I buy into the Kaws hype, I buy into the Murakami hype, then I buy into the brookness. However no greater joy comes from their work on my walls. This childlike behavior keeps me broke and stupid.. although happy.
I buy into the Kaws hype, I buy into the Murakami hype, then I buy into the brookness. However no greater joy comes from their work on my walls. This childlike behavior keeps me broke and stupid.. although happy.
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Kaws does Smurfs, by jamesreeve5 on Jul 22, 2009 14:36:31 GMT 1, Problem with street art is it's antisocial and anticorporate nature, it's the punk rock of the art world.
Raymond Pettibon makes street art look like Green Day.
Problem with street art is it's antisocial and anticorporate nature, it's the punk rock of the art world. Raymond Pettibon makes street art look like Green Day.
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Kaws does Smurfs, by rosstierney on Jul 22, 2009 16:56:24 GMT 1, thanks checkles:
thanks checkles:
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