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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 14:53:51 GMT 1, Grafik, Have a Z 2007/M 2008 sub date's available. Unless your after a no date sub?  Should have a bnib 2008, all seals in place next week. Pm me if there is a particular sub date your after. Probably been asked before but is this ^^^^ FatherXmas's new monicker? The grammar is better but that would be expected after another year or two at school.
Would love to know him, then it'll be christmas all year round and constant supply of presents. But to the question, Im not father christmas, if only 
Grafik, Have a Z 2007/M 2008 sub date's available. Unless your after a no date sub? Should have a bnib 2008, all seals in place next week. Pm me if there is a particular sub date your after. Probably been asked before but is this ^^^^ FatherXmas's new monicker? The grammar is better but that would be expected after another year or two at school. Would love to know him, then it'll be christmas all year round and constant supply of presents. But to the question, Im not father christmas, if only |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by dodge on Dec 16, 2009 15:08:39 GMT 1, This board is plumbing new depths. It almost resembles some sort of commodity forum rather than an art one.
This board is plumbing new depths. It almost resembles some sort of commodity forum rather than an art one.
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by grafik on Dec 16, 2009 15:12:02 GMT 1, not everything on the secondary has a mark up, most used items make a substantial loss, but, im sure your talking about luxury goods (rolex) and art (banksy prints), as this seems to be your chosen field of expertise. Anyway, Im not getting into a conversation about buying and selling. end of. Majority of luxury items do not fall in a recession, some people are weather proof to this. Not many rolex's are commanding premiums, the green glass milgauss was and at some stage selling for 50% mark up. Daytonas i think are starting to lose there appeal but again if your in the market for a £6k watch another 600/800 premium is peanuts. Cars as well, reventon lamborghini's would command a big premium, as far as im aware there is only 1 in the uk and in nottingham. From speaking to the chap he has his reventon roadster coming very soon (supplied by nottingham lamborghini) The 458 ferrari which will replace the 430 currently has 20k premiums on them as ell as the f60, replacement of the enzo £100k plus and nothing has even been announced, just brokers taking a punt.
someone on pistonheads too.
Edd hicks dad has the lambo.
not everything on the secondary has a mark up, most used items make a substantial loss, but, im sure your talking about luxury goods (rolex) and art (banksy prints), as this seems to be your chosen field of expertise. Anyway, Im not getting into a conversation about buying and selling. end of. Majority of luxury items do not fall in a recession, some people are weather proof to this. Not many rolex's are commanding premiums, the green glass milgauss was and at some stage selling for 50% mark up. Daytonas i think are starting to lose there appeal but again if your in the market for a £6k watch another 600/800 premium is peanuts. Cars as well, reventon lamborghini's would command a big premium, as far as im aware there is only 1 in the uk and in nottingham. From speaking to the chap he has his reventon roadster coming very soon (supplied by nottingham lamborghini) The 458 ferrari which will replace the 430 currently has 20k premiums on them as ell as the f60, replacement of the enzo £100k plus and nothing has even been announced, just brokers taking a punt. someone on pistonheads too. Edd hicks dad has the lambo. |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by nah on Dec 16, 2009 15:17:51 GMT 1, Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board, no names mentioned, but you'll be surprised to know how many of the so called well respected members are "leeches" in regards to selling prints within a few days of being sold out.
truth
Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board, no names mentioned, but you'll be surprised to know how many of the so called well respected members are "leeches" in regards to selling prints within a few days of being sold out. truth |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by spirit on Dec 16, 2009 15:20:22 GMT 1, Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board...
I for one couldn't give a toss...
Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board... I for one couldn't give a toss... |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by darrenrapley on Dec 16, 2009 15:29:07 GMT 1, Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board... I for one couldn't give a toss...
What he said
Im sure you and everyone else would like to know some of the pm's we're had on this board... I for one couldn't give a toss... What he said |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by Fragile on Dec 16, 2009 15:37:51 GMT 1, love your avatar Darren!
love your avatar Darren!
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by darrenrapley on Dec 16, 2009 15:39:24 GMT 1, Trying to be festive. Even Phil Spector isn't doing it for me yet!
Trying to be festive. Even Phil Spector isn't doing it for me yet!
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by digitalkid on Dec 16, 2009 15:50:05 GMT 1, Sorry to say but I think S&S is worth more at the moment. How do I know?! well I'm looking for one and am willing to pay more than £1550..
Sorry but PM me ;D
Sorry to say but I think S&S is worth more at the moment. How do I know?! well I'm looking for one and am willing to pay more than £1550..
Sorry but PM me ;D
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by curiousgeorge on Dec 16, 2009 15:56:07 GMT 1, This board is plumbing new depths. It almost resembles some sort of commodity forum rather than an art one.
This!
For the most part this place has always been a collective of people with a passion for Art.
You lot go against everything this genre of Art has stood for, and very likely dragging it down on the way.Still as long as you make a profit....
For what it's worth each and every time post, i cringe a little bit more.Selling directly shows just how 2 bit you really are, if you were smart you would......
This board is plumbing new depths. It almost resembles some sort of commodity forum rather than an art one. This! For the most part this place has always been a collective of people with a passion for Art. You lot go against everything this genre of Art has stood for, and very likely dragging it down on the way.Still as long as you make a profit.... For what it's worth each and every time post, i cringe a little bit more.Selling directly shows just how 2 bit you really are, if you were smart you would...... |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by olapig on Dec 16, 2009 16:14:38 GMT 1, True George,
I must say that since I have been on this forum it has rapidly gone downhill and seems to be more about money than art,
this Banksy release has seen more new or small post members justifying buying to sell than any other release I have known to date.
I don't think it helps when a day after release established members post wtb new Banksy willing to pay £1200 £1500 or whatever, it just encourages more flipping.
Flippers get their information from the forum then sell to the same members that gave them the information in the first place.
True George,
I must say that since I have been on this forum it has rapidly gone downhill and seems to be more about money than art,
this Banksy release has seen more new or small post members justifying buying to sell than any other release I have known to date.
I don't think it helps when a day after release established members post wtb new Banksy willing to pay £1200 £1500 or whatever, it just encourages more flipping.
Flippers get their information from the forum then sell to the same members that gave them the information in the first place.
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by cannaebefannied on Dec 16, 2009 16:22:02 GMT 1, Well if you venture north again then give me a shout & I'll take you for a beer or two at the chicken dippers !
Well if you venture north again then give me a shout & I'll take you for a beer or two at the chicken dippers !
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by brun on Dec 16, 2009 16:45:11 GMT 1, how much is a rolex anyway ? i got three cartrains to flip ?
how much is a rolex anyway ? i got three cartrains to flip ?
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by nex on Dec 16, 2009 16:48:19 GMT 1, True George, I must say that since I have been on this forum it has rapidly gone downhill and seems to be more about money than art, Flippers get their information from the forum
good points
True George, I must say that since I have been on this forum it has rapidly gone downhill and seems to be more about money than art, Flippers get their information from the forum good points |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by Martin Whatson on Dec 16, 2009 16:53:58 GMT 1, I think it's about time for banksy and POW to raise their prices.
Selling theese prints for £750-£1000 from source would scare off the many of the flippers. And it will still be a good price for a Banksy print.
The prices has actually gotten lower since trolleys. And smaller editions.
But to be fair. Someone else flipped this print to DV for a rolex first.
But it would be decent of them to wait wait a couple of weeks before selling it on again.
I think it's about time for banksy and POW to raise their prices.
Selling theese prints for £750-£1000 from source would scare off the many of the flippers. And it will still be a good price for a Banksy print.
The prices has actually gotten lower since trolleys. And smaller editions.
But to be fair. Someone else flipped this print to DV for a rolex first.
But it would be decent of them to wait wait a couple of weeks before selling it on again.
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by nex on Dec 16, 2009 16:56:20 GMT 1, sorry whatson couldn't agree less - Banksy makes a point of selling these low to give the common man a chance to own a print - and I say fair play to him
sorry whatson couldn't agree less - Banksy makes a point of selling these low to give the common man a chance to own a print - and I say fair play to him
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 17:12:58 GMT 1, I think it's about time for banksy and POW to raise their prices. Selling theese prints for £750-£1000 from source would scare off the many of the flippers. And it will still be a good price for a Banksy print. The prices has actually gotten lower since trolleys. And smaller editions. But to be fair. Someone else flipped this print to DV for a rolex first. But it would be decent of them to wait wait a couple of weeks before selling it on again.
I have always said, do what dface etc have done, put up prices to deter flippers. Simple
If prints were £1000+ flippers would be scared to get there fingers burnt.
Personally im all for prices going up, if peopel are paying £750 for a d*face print, people must be willing to pay at least £1000/£1250 or even £1500 for a print
I think it's about time for banksy and POW to raise their prices. Selling theese prints for £750-£1000 from source would scare off the many of the flippers. And it will still be a good price for a Banksy print. The prices has actually gotten lower since trolleys. And smaller editions. But to be fair. Someone else flipped this print to DV for a rolex first. But it would be decent of them to wait wait a couple of weeks before selling it on again. I have always said, do what dface etc have done, put up prices to deter flippers. Simple If prints were £1000+ flippers would be scared to get there fingers burnt. Personally im all for prices going up, if peopel are paying £750 for a d*face print, people must be willing to pay at least £1000/£1250 or even £1500 for a print |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by steveh on Dec 16, 2009 17:15:29 GMT 1, Thought it was about time that instead of just reading this, I joined and actually posted having spent the night with a load of you!
Well worth it to my get first signed Banksy, and finally one at source.
Was lucky to be around a top group 90% of who were all there for the right reasons and actually wanted the print, actually turned out to be a really fun night!
Fair play to the guys who dashed down from outside London, Rob & Mark hope you made it back to Bristol & Southend quickly, and Mick, don’t think I’d have made it though without the late night emergency the supply of chairs and sleeping bags from your missus!
Crazy passers by, and crap parkings never been so entertaining! Just hope somewhere after last weekend there were people telling friends they saw a load of crazy fans queuing for Jedward tickets on Friday night!
Hopefully a few more on here will get their hands on a green one in the next few days!
Thought it was about time that instead of just reading this, I joined and actually posted having spent the night with a load of you!
Well worth it to my get first signed Banksy, and finally one at source.
Was lucky to be around a top group 90% of who were all there for the right reasons and actually wanted the print, actually turned out to be a really fun night!
Fair play to the guys who dashed down from outside London, Rob & Mark hope you made it back to Bristol & Southend quickly, and Mick, don’t think I’d have made it though without the late night emergency the supply of chairs and sleeping bags from your missus!
Crazy passers by, and crap parkings never been so entertaining! Just hope somewhere after last weekend there were people telling friends they saw a load of crazy fans queuing for Jedward tickets on Friday night!
Hopefully a few more on here will get their hands on a green one in the next few days!
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 17:18:27 GMT 1, sorry whatson couldn't agree less - Banksy makes a point of selling these low to give the common man a chance to own a print - and I say fair play to him
I agree to a point on this but you have to also consider that if banksy did do a release at say £1250 and it didnt sell out. It wouldnt look good for him? Banksy prints DID NOT SELL OUT!
Why do you think he is doing smaller runs now (possibly worried he might sell out a 750 run), in the boom times(2007-upto middle of 2008) 750 print run, signed and in the down turn runs of 299-250
Like anything he needs to have a buzz round him, flippers help drive a market, no flippers no interest.
Look at d*face, flippers have dropped there shoulder to him now, worst thing he did imo is push prices to high meaning no meat on the bone for so called "flippers"
Every new release we're buying for under cost
sorry whatson couldn't agree less - Banksy makes a point of selling these low to give the common man a chance to own a print - and I say fair play to him I agree to a point on this but you have to also consider that if banksy did do a release at say £1250 and it didnt sell out. It wouldnt look good for him? Banksy prints DID NOT SELL OUT! Why do you think he is doing smaller runs now (possibly worried he might sell out a 750 run), in the boom times(2007-upto middle of 2008) 750 print run, signed and in the down turn runs of 299-250 Like anything he needs to have a buzz round him, flippers help drive a market, no flippers no interest. Look at d*face, flippers have dropped there shoulder to him now, worst thing he did imo is push prices to high meaning no meat on the bone for so called "flippers" Every new release we're buying for under cost |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by grantb on Dec 16, 2009 17:21:51 GMT 1, who was from southend?
who was from southend? |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by Daniel Silk on Dec 16, 2009 17:22:26 GMT 1, As it was said by somebody the other day, it appears they actually want the prints to be resold for much higher amounts than the original cost to keep Banksy's market and demand up!
Putting the price up to around £1,500 could be a risky thing to do 
As it was said by somebody the other day, it appears they actually want the prints to be resold for much higher amounts than the original cost to keep Banksy's market and demand up! Putting the price up to around £1,500 could be a risky thing to do |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by grantb on Dec 16, 2009 17:26:16 GMT 1, what ever you do banksy will sell out. can we stop tlking about al this flipping shit.
for godsake.
what ever you do banksy will sell out. can we stop tlking about al this flipping shit.
for godsake.
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 17:27:02 GMT 1, As it was said by somebody the other day, it appears they actually want the prints to be resold for much higher amounts than the original cost to keep Banksy's market and demand up! Putting the price up to around £1,500 could be a risky thing to do
Silky you said what i wanted to say in less than 3 lines.... THANK YOU
As it was said by somebody the other day, it appears they actually want the prints to be resold for much higher amounts than the original cost to keep Banksy's market and demand up! Putting the price up to around £1,500 could be a risky thing to do Silky you said what i wanted to say in less than 3 lines.... THANK YOU |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by notworthit on Dec 16, 2009 17:28:12 GMT 1, I completely agree with CG this place is a forum to discuss art, first and foremost. It's absolute fact that DV have not contributed one iota to any discussion on ART on this forum since they/it/she/he joined it.
I completely agree with CG this place is a forum to discuss art, first and foremost. It's absolute fact that DV have not contributed one iota to any discussion on ART on this forum since they/it/she/he joined it.
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 17:33:53 GMT 1, Well i dont mean to be rude but i might have to be.
Youve been part of this forum 2009 april and cg 2007, "urban bloody art" or we use to call it graffiti has been around longer than the 2 years you've been part of this forum. Please dont judge us, nor expect us to comment on everything that is talked about. No matter what we say, we'll always be looked at "you just want to flip this" so just like a few of the other galleries on the site we try and stay quite neutral but every now and again we have to put our foot down and get our voice across.
I can go back to the days of the owner, black and chrome living in kilburn, bombin every wall with DAZ and DDS-ZONK/ZOMBY/COS smashin up all the train yards from north london to south london (christmas day was a special day to them ;D )
So if anything, im sure us as a collective, we could teach you a thing or too and for the record when i was down POW on friday night for over an hour, we got speaking to a few people, some of which have got on this bandwagon because it's the "in thing"
So once again, at least we were at graffiti 10-15 years ago unlike many 
Well i dont mean to be rude but i might have to be. Youve been part of this forum 2009 april and cg 2007, "urban bloody art" or we use to call it graffiti has been around longer than the 2 years you've been part of this forum. Please dont judge us, nor expect us to comment on everything that is talked about. No matter what we say, we'll always be looked at "you just want to flip this" so just like a few of the other galleries on the site we try and stay quite neutral but every now and again we have to put our foot down and get our voice across. I can go back to the days of the owner, black and chrome living in kilburn, bombin every wall with DAZ and DDS-ZONK/ZOMBY/COS smashin up all the train yards from north london to south london (christmas day was a special day to them ;D ) So if anything, im sure us as a collective, we could teach you a thing or too and for the record when i was down POW on friday night for over an hour, we got speaking to a few people, some of which have got on this bandwagon because it's the "in thing" So once again, at least we were at graffiti 10-15 years ago unlike many |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by Daniel Silk on Dec 16, 2009 17:37:12 GMT 1, I completely agree with CG this place is a forum to discuss art, first and foremost. It's absolute fact that DV have not contributed one iota to any discussion on ART on this forum since they/it/she/he joined it.
Lead by example!
I completely agree with CG this place is a forum to discuss art, first and foremost. It's absolute fact that DV have not contributed one iota to any discussion on ART on this forum since they/it/she/he joined it. Lead by example! |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by jaimesl on Dec 16, 2009 17:40:08 GMT 1, DV - you say one thing and do the opposite.
A bit like a comedian, telling everyone he's funny... try telling a few jokes
(it's a metaphor before you start getting too excited).
If you're the real deal (as you claim)... start acting it.
Well i dont mean to be rude but i might have to be. Youve been part of this forum 2009 april and cg 2007, "urban bloody art" or we use to call it graffiti has been around longer than the 2 years you've been part of this forum. Please dont judge us, nor expect us to comment on everything that is talked about. No matter what we say, we'll always be looked at "you just want to flip this" so just like a few of the other galleries on the site we try and stay quite neutral but every now and again we have to put our foot down and get our voice across. I can go back the days of the owner black and chrome living in kilburn, bombin every wall with DAZ and DDS-ZONK/ZOMBY/COS smashin up all the train yards from north london to south london. So if anything im sure us as a collective could teach you a thing or too.
DV - you say one thing and do the opposite. A bit like a comedian, telling everyone he's funny... try telling a few jokes (it's a metaphor before you start getting too excited). If you're the real deal (as you claim)... start acting it. Well i dont mean to be rude but i might have to be. Youve been part of this forum 2009 april and cg 2007, "urban bloody art" or we use to call it graffiti has been around longer than the 2 years you've been part of this forum. Please dont judge us, nor expect us to comment on everything that is talked about. No matter what we say, we'll always be looked at "you just want to flip this" so just like a few of the other galleries on the site we try and stay quite neutral but every now and again we have to put our foot down and get our voice across. I can go back the days of the owner black and chrome living in kilburn, bombin every wall with DAZ and DDS-ZONK/ZOMBY/COS smashin up all the train yards from north london to south london. So if anything im sure us as a collective could teach you a thing or too. |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by Daniel Silk on Dec 16, 2009 17:43:55 GMT 1, Lead by Example!
One post about flipping or whatever, followed by pages of people moaning and bitchin  If you dont like it why promote the thread and go over and over it again and again. Just leave it and move on to threads you do like and do enjoy!  Simples!
Happy Christmas! ;D
Lead by Example! One post about flipping or whatever, followed by pages of people moaning and bitchin If you dont like it why promote the thread and go over and over it again and again. Just leave it and move on to threads you do like and do enjoy! Simples! Happy Christmas! ;D |
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Banksy • No Ball Games GREY, by distinctivevision on Dec 16, 2009 17:44:18 GMT 1, I have no idea what your on about james.
I have no idea what your on about james.
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Should have a bnib 2008, all seals in place next week. Pm me if there is a particular sub date your after.
If you dont like it why promote the thread and go over and over it again and again. Just leave it and move on to threads you do like and do enjoy! 
Simples!
