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Obey the Giant, by Oliver Garland on Sept 4, 2007 15:00:11 GMT 1, Anyone a fan of his? What do you think of his stuff?
Anyone a fan of his? What do you think of his stuff?
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Obey the Giant, by moonstomp on Sept 4, 2007 15:23:21 GMT 1, Obey/Shepard Faireys Andre the giant I guess? Love it got one signed on my wall 
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Obey the Giant, by manchestermike on Sept 4, 2007 15:34:52 GMT 1, Not a fan
Not a fan
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Obey the Giant, by Oliver Garland on Sept 4, 2007 15:36:14 GMT 1, I love all his stuff really, the prints are amazing quality and soo cheap!
I love all his stuff really, the prints are amazing quality and soo cheap!
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Obey the Giant, by brainthedog on Sept 4, 2007 15:36:55 GMT 1, not crazy about it but, i respect his influence and niche he's created
not crazy about it but, i respect his influence and niche he's created
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Obey the Giant, by nickc on Sept 4, 2007 16:49:31 GMT 1, Not a massive fan but I did just buy the "Less Militerry More Skools" print as I liked the humour (and the price)
Not a massive fan but I did just buy the "Less Militerry More Skools" print as I liked the humour (and the price)
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Obey the Giant, by Andy'77 on Sept 4, 2007 16:51:20 GMT 1, I think the prints have gone down hill a bit since they started weekly releases which is probably a good thing as it means I don't spend every Tuesday night trying to get a print that ends in disappointment. There are still the odd one or two that are great. You really can't complain about the price though, when other artists hike prices as they get popular, Shepard has kept his prices ridiculously low...
Supply and Demand is also a quality read and well worth getting.
I think the prints have gone down hill a bit since they started weekly releases which is probably a good thing as it means I don't spend every Tuesday night trying to get a print that ends in disappointment. There are still the odd one or two that are great. You really can't complain about the price though, when other artists hike prices as they get popular, Shepard has kept his prices ridiculously low...
Supply and Demand is also a quality read and well worth getting.
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Obey the Giant, by Simococo on Sept 4, 2007 19:17:46 GMT 1, The blokes a total hero, real pioneer.
The blokes a total hero, real pioneer.
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Obey the Giant, by dave313perry on Sept 4, 2007 19:36:37 GMT 1, Anyone a fan of his? What do you think of his stuff?
As a graphic designer working within screenprint im a big fan of his portfolio and in particular his early portraiture work. A few of his more recent prints have looked manufactured and unoriginal IMO but i still have a great respect for the guy as a pioneer and great influence of design.
I understand why alot of people dont like his work - usually the same people who are more into the hardcore stencil work or more contemporary micallef/ denning/ type prints.
I think a little bit of the appeal has gone for some collectors/traders because obey have become so prolific in their output, especially with some of it being a little lackluster in content and meaning - it also becomes less desirable as its readily available.
Image wise i have to admire the constant output although i would like to hear exactly how many people are invlolved in the processes but i still think fair play.
I really do admire his high detail high quality prints. If you havnt got the latest book, get a hold of one and you will soon know if you like obey or not!
just my tuppence! 
Anyone a fan of his? What do you think of his stuff? As a graphic designer working within screenprint im a big fan of his portfolio and in particular his early portraiture work. A few of his more recent prints have looked manufactured and unoriginal IMO but i still have a great respect for the guy as a pioneer and great influence of design. I understand why alot of people dont like his work - usually the same people who are more into the hardcore stencil work or more contemporary micallef/ denning/ type prints. I think a little bit of the appeal has gone for some collectors/traders because obey have become so prolific in their output, especially with some of it being a little lackluster in content and meaning - it also becomes less desirable as its readily available. Image wise i have to admire the constant output although i would like to hear exactly how many people are invlolved in the processes but i still think fair play. I really do admire his high detail high quality prints. If you havnt got the latest book, get a hold of one and you will soon know if you like obey or not! just my tuppence! |
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Obey the Giant, by Ripper1331 on Sept 4, 2007 20:27:39 GMT 1, I like the earlier work and he definitely is a pioneer of the US street scene but now it's just evolved into a brand and releasing a print a week is just advertising for that brand.
I like the earlier work and he definitely is a pioneer of the US street scene but now it's just evolved into a brand and releasing a print a week is just advertising for that brand.
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Obey the Giant, by finsburyparkranger on Sept 4, 2007 20:40:38 GMT 1, I like the earlier work and he definitely is a pioneer of the US street scene but now it's just evolved into a brand and releasing a print a week is just advertising for that brand.
Yeah its quite an odd move to produce so much, so quickly. These days obey is like a ford assembly line. Not sure why he wanted to emulate an industrial process of creativity. I much prefer to be surprised by an artist that works organically not mechanically.
I like the earlier work and he definitely is a pioneer of the US street scene but now it's just evolved into a brand and releasing a print a week is just advertising for that brand. Yeah its quite an odd move to produce so much, so quickly. These days obey is like a ford assembly line. Not sure why he wanted to emulate an industrial process of creativity. I much prefer to be surprised by an artist that works organically not mechanically. |
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Obey the Giant, by dave313perry on Sept 4, 2007 21:06:16 GMT 1, I would imagion he has a system full of monatges of patterns and such created by himself but i reckon they are now used as a kind of style guide for his employees who use them to create Obey images! Maybe he would brainstorm an idea and someone would realise it for him, using obey's techniques and patterns?? just what i think it looks like from the outside, i would love to hear some official work or leaked info!
I would imagion he has a system full of monatges of patterns and such created by himself but i reckon they are now used as a kind of style guide for his employees who use them to create Obey images! Maybe he would brainstorm an idea and someone would realise it for him, using obey's techniques and patterns?? just what i think it looks like from the outside, i would love to hear some official work or leaked info!
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Obey the Giant, by dog byte on Sept 4, 2007 21:06:33 GMT 1, i have great respect for what he has accomplished and his design sensibilities but i find that over the years he has gotten formulaic....
it all gets kind of boring and tired after a while.
would compare it to listening to a manufactured top 40 artist instead of a indie band...
i have great respect for what he has accomplished and his design sensibilities but i find that over the years he has gotten formulaic....
it all gets kind of boring and tired after a while.
would compare it to listening to a manufactured top 40 artist instead of a indie band...
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Obey the Giant, by dave313perry on Sept 4, 2007 21:21:47 GMT 1, Abit of a girls-aloud!!!  good points
Abit of a girls-aloud!!! good points |
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Obey the Giant, by Oliver Garland on Sept 4, 2007 22:26:08 GMT 1, seems like more for me then! Cant wait for his exhibition in October!
seems like more for me then! Cant wait for his exhibition in October!
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Obey the Giant, by reznyce on Sept 5, 2007 3:02:38 GMT 1, He needs to take a breather, get inspired by something and come back with something. Right now, he does nothing for me. I normally buy his prints - get disappointed when I receive them and sell them rightaway. I wish he'd release something worth keeping.
He needs to take a breather, get inspired by something and come back with something. Right now, he does nothing for me. I normally buy his prints - get disappointed when I receive them and sell them rightaway. I wish he'd release something worth keeping.
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Obey the Giant, by melttheguns on Sept 5, 2007 5:35:23 GMT 1, the large format two sides of capitalism prints are sick!
the large format two sides of capitalism prints are sick!
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Obey the Giant, by slowmo on Sept 5, 2007 10:33:47 GMT 1, What are the two biggest gripes on this forum with regards to artists (output, not re-sell otherwise it would be baggers).
1. The cost of prints
2. The lack of output from Banksy
Lots of people are complaining about the cost of a Giclee, the cost of Adam Neates prints, Micallefs prints etc. Lots of people are complaining that Banksy doesn't release enough prints, prices are getting so high its pricing me out.
Obey release every week, at a very small price and sell out every week. How this makes him an assembly line is beyond me. If he wanted to he could just create the absolutely amazing stuff (anyone remember eleven, revolution woman was the piece of the show for me) he is capable of and sell them for ยฃ5-10K each. He could do that, and make lots more money when multiplied by effort, but he doesn't.
Obey is a message, not an individual. Its a concept created by Shep Fairey, the concept is the art, the image is the message, who is responsible for creating it is secondary. The message is that you don't need a message to influence people, an image alone is enough. Stick it in enough places and people can draw what they want from it. Seems like sense to me that a prolific wheatpaster would want to invade the inside of walls as well (tons of prints on peoples walls inside their house as well as his efforts to dress the walls outside).
I agree that a lot of his recent work is perhaps not as interesting as the early stuff. But there have been at least 6-7 images alone this year I have wanted, I managed to get one of them.
He is a stand up legend in the field and I believe he has always tried to supply the demand, I don't think it makes him in any way a sell out or a brand. Its just a very different approach to the POW make 6 prints go for a year way of doing things.
I would love to get some of his exhibition work. So far, no joy. But I believe that he is probably underrated to this end as he sells them at a far lower rate than some of the work that was on sale at the recent found event and has a hell of a lot more awareness in the world than those artists.
In short, I like the message, the delivery and some of the prints. If you don't, then fair enough.
What are the two biggest gripes on this forum with regards to artists (output, not re-sell otherwise it would be baggers).
1. The cost of prints
2. The lack of output from Banksy
Lots of people are complaining about the cost of a Giclee, the cost of Adam Neates prints, Micallefs prints etc. Lots of people are complaining that Banksy doesn't release enough prints, prices are getting so high its pricing me out.
Obey release every week, at a very small price and sell out every week. How this makes him an assembly line is beyond me. If he wanted to he could just create the absolutely amazing stuff (anyone remember eleven, revolution woman was the piece of the show for me) he is capable of and sell them for ยฃ5-10K each. He could do that, and make lots more money when multiplied by effort, but he doesn't.
Obey is a message, not an individual. Its a concept created by Shep Fairey, the concept is the art, the image is the message, who is responsible for creating it is secondary. The message is that you don't need a message to influence people, an image alone is enough. Stick it in enough places and people can draw what they want from it. Seems like sense to me that a prolific wheatpaster would want to invade the inside of walls as well (tons of prints on peoples walls inside their house as well as his efforts to dress the walls outside).
I agree that a lot of his recent work is perhaps not as interesting as the early stuff. But there have been at least 6-7 images alone this year I have wanted, I managed to get one of them.
He is a stand up legend in the field and I believe he has always tried to supply the demand, I don't think it makes him in any way a sell out or a brand. Its just a very different approach to the POW make 6 prints go for a year way of doing things.
I would love to get some of his exhibition work. So far, no joy. But I believe that he is probably underrated to this end as he sells them at a far lower rate than some of the work that was on sale at the recent found event and has a hell of a lot more awareness in the world than those artists.
In short, I like the message, the delivery and some of the prints. If you don't, then fair enough.
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Obey the Giant, by mcnuts on Sept 5, 2007 10:36:04 GMT 1, slowmo: nail in on the head
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