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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by yapsey on Apr 9, 2009 9:14:28 GMT 1, the pieces will be amazing - the prices will be horrific
the pieces will be amazing - the prices will be horrific
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by ratboy on Apr 9, 2009 9:31:57 GMT 1, Are You Using That Chair is amazing. Laz had this for sale only a few months ago - with the dreaded price on request. What's the guess - ยฃ200-300k or so?
Are You Using That Chair is amazing. Laz had this for sale only a few months ago - with the dreaded price on request. What's the guess - ยฃ200-300k or so?
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yapsey
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by yapsey on Apr 9, 2009 9:39:34 GMT 1, +
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by njr911 on Apr 9, 2009 9:48:08 GMT 1, "This exhibition will show only original canvases" so why this? "Another work to be included is a unique work on paper depicting a member of the police force lighting a spliff for a little girl"
I think they mean that they won't have any of the editioned canvases.
"This exhibition will show only original canvases" so why this? "Another work to be included is a unique work on paper depicting a member of the police force lighting a spliff for a little girl" I think they mean that they won't have any of the editioned canvases.
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by romanywg on Apr 9, 2009 10:10:16 GMT 1, I tried to get my brother to buy that canvas when it was on show in Notting Hill Gate. His 'art adviser' hadn't heard of Banksy and so he passed on it. At ยฃ15,000.
I tried to get my brother to buy that canvas when it was on show in Notting Hill Gate. His 'art adviser' hadn't heard of Banksy and so he passed on it. At ยฃ15,000.
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by hlarmy on Apr 9, 2009 11:27:04 GMT 1, Are You Using That Chair is amazing. Laz had this for sale only a few months ago - with the dreaded price on request. What's the guess - ยฃ200-300k or so? Laz had this piece and it was called "Nighthawk Cafe" and was priced at ยฃ1m + vat
Did you buy it Ali?
Are You Using That Chair is amazing. Laz had this for sale only a few months ago - with the dreaded price on request. What's the guess - ยฃ200-300k or so? Laz had this piece and it was called "Nighthawk Cafe" and was priced at ยฃ1m + vat Did you buy it Ali?
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by Prescription Art on Apr 9, 2009 11:30:17 GMT 1, I tried to get my brother to buy that canvas when it was on show in Notting Hill Gate. His 'art adviser' hadn't heard of Banksy and so he passed on it. At ยฃ15,000.
I was told at Crude Oils that it was ยฃ40,000. Was the only thing unsold at the time I asked about it... but obviously a bit out of my budget!
I thought this was the only time the spliff image had been done (from Glastonbury)... though this was on foam core kinda stuff I think.
I tried to get my brother to buy that canvas when it was on show in Notting Hill Gate. His 'art adviser' hadn't heard of Banksy and so he passed on it. At ยฃ15,000. I was told at Crude Oils that it was ยฃ40,000. Was the only thing unsold at the time I asked about it... but obviously a bit out of my budget! I thought this was the only time the spliff image had been done (from Glastonbury)... though this was on foam core kinda stuff I think.
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by Guest on Apr 9, 2009 11:31:30 GMT 1, I tried to get my brother to buy that canvas when it was on show in Notting Hill Gate. His 'art adviser' hadn't heard of Banksy and so he passed on it. At ยฃ15,000.
and the so called "art advisor" whats he doing now?
I tried to get my brother to buy that canvas when it was on show in Notting Hill Gate. His 'art adviser' hadn't heard of Banksy and so he passed on it. At ยฃ15,000. and the so called "art advisor" whats he doing now?
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by graeme501 on Apr 9, 2009 11:39:30 GMT 1, whether u agree or not with galleries putting on secondary market solo shows, the last one did have some amazing work in it and they put on a good show
whether u agree or not with galleries putting on secondary market solo shows, the last one did have some amazing work in it and they put on a good show
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rillo
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by rillo on Apr 9, 2009 11:41:54 GMT 1, I thought this was the only time the spliff image had been done (from Glastonbury)... though this was on foam core kinda stuff I think. I have seen one on brown paper in the past
I thought this was the only time the spliff image had been done (from Glastonbury)... though this was on foam core kinda stuff I think. I have seen one on brown paper in the past
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by rillo on Apr 9, 2009 11:46:15 GMT 1,
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yapsey
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by doublehelix on Apr 9, 2009 12:33:31 GMT 1, The last banksy show at Andipa was certainly popular:
The last banksy show at Andipa was certainly popular:
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yapsey
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by yapsey on Apr 9, 2009 13:30:42 GMT 1, That is insane - when i went a while after it opened it certainly wasn't as crazy as that!! - looks like a print release queue at BRP or somewhere!
That is insane - when i went a while after it opened it certainly wasn't as crazy as that!! - looks like a print release queue at BRP or somewhere!
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by graeme501 on Apr 9, 2009 13:37:31 GMT 1, i remember going down and it was just us and that andipa guy, he gave us copies of the book that went for ยฃ100's of pounds on ebay when things were going crazy - i flicked through mine the other day
the one thing i like about andipa banksy shows is there is no level of secrecy, with laz its very much 'if you cant afford it, you cant see it' which is a shame as many rarer artworks go unnoticed, but with this, even though its secondary, everythings up on the wall, even though the prices are ridiculous, its nice to see the rare originals
i remember going down and it was just us and that andipa guy, he gave us copies of the book that went for ยฃ100's of pounds on ebay when things were going crazy - i flicked through mine the other day
the one thing i like about andipa banksy shows is there is no level of secrecy, with laz its very much 'if you cant afford it, you cant see it' which is a shame as many rarer artworks go unnoticed, but with this, even though its secondary, everythings up on the wall, even though the prices are ridiculous, its nice to see the rare originals
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by dynamixx on Apr 9, 2009 13:37:41 GMT 1,
Not exactly a strong example of Banksy's work, quite bad in fact. Are You Using That Chair though always struck me as the finest of the crude oils, definitely ranks as one of his strongest indoors pieces.
Not exactly a strong example of Banksy's work, quite bad in fact. Are You Using That Chair though always struck me as the finest of the crude oils, definitely ranks as one of his strongest indoors pieces.
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by graeme501 on Apr 9, 2009 13:39:32 GMT 1, Not exactly a strong example of Banksy's work, quite bad in fact. Are You Using That Chair though always struck me as the finest of the crude oils, definitely ranks as one of his strongest indoors pieces.
i think this is a very strong image, but when its taken out its context, and placed indoors, it looses a little something
Not exactly a strong example of Banksy's work, quite bad in fact. Are You Using That Chair though always struck me as the finest of the crude oils, definitely ranks as one of his strongest indoors pieces. i think this is a very strong image, but when its taken out its context, and placed indoors, it looses a little something
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dynamixx
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by dynamixx on Apr 9, 2009 13:43:03 GMT 1, Taken out of context? The one at Andipa isn't a street piece, and was always destined to have a roof over its head
Taken out of context? The one at Andipa isn't a street piece, and was always destined to have a roof over its head
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by graeme501 on Apr 9, 2009 13:44:59 GMT 1, the image originally was a 'street piece' at glastonbury
the image originally was a 'street piece' at glastonbury
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by Guest on Apr 9, 2009 13:45:42 GMT 1, i remember going down and it was just us and that andipa guy, he gave us copies of the book that went for ยฃ100's of pounds on ebay when things were going crazy - i flicked through mine the other day the one thing i like about andipa banksy shows is there is no level of secrecy, with laz its very much 'if you cant afford it, you cant see it' which is a shame as many rarer artworks go unnoticed, but with this, even though its secondary, everythings up on the wall, even though the prices are ridiculous, its nice to see the rare originals
except who owns the street works
i remember going down and it was just us and that andipa guy, he gave us copies of the book that went for ยฃ100's of pounds on ebay when things were going crazy - i flicked through mine the other day the one thing i like about andipa banksy shows is there is no level of secrecy, with laz its very much 'if you cant afford it, you cant see it' which is a shame as many rarer artworks go unnoticed, but with this, even though its secondary, everythings up on the wall, even though the prices are ridiculous, its nice to see the rare originals except who owns the street works
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dynamixx
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by dynamixx on Apr 9, 2009 13:45:59 GMT 1, the image originally was a 'street piece' at glastonbury
I know that graeme, but thanks
the image originally was a 'street piece' at glastonbury I know that graeme, but thanks
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by graeme501 on Apr 9, 2009 13:46:52 GMT 1,
well then, thats what i was meaning by 'taken out of context'
well then, thats what i was meaning by 'taken out of context'
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by afroken on Apr 9, 2009 13:52:19 GMT 1, The pricing of this show will be interesting. I wonder if Andipa and Laz have kissed and made up after their slagging of each other in the press? They've basically become 2 sides of the same coin but Andipa seems to holding most of the cards. Bit of a shame really.
The pricing of this show will be interesting. I wonder if Andipa and Laz have kissed and made up after their slagging of each other in the press? They've basically become 2 sides of the same coin but Andipa seems to holding most of the cards. Bit of a shame really.
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dynamixx
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by dynamixx on Apr 9, 2009 13:56:02 GMT 1, well then, thats what i was meaning by 'taken out of context'
You could put it anywhere, whatever the context and I'm still not feeling it, I'm sure the big man would admit it's far from the strongest thing he's done. End of really.
As for your claims about the secrecy of Laz and the loveliness of Adipa, I'll leave that for someone else...
well then, thats what i was meaning by 'taken out of context' You could put it anywhere, whatever the context and I'm still not feeling it, I'm sure the big man would admit it's far from the strongest thing he's done. End of really. As for your claims about the secrecy of Laz and the loveliness of Adipa, I'll leave that for someone else...
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by graeme501 on Apr 9, 2009 14:02:54 GMT 1, well then, thats what i was meaning by 'taken out of context' You could put it anywhere, whatever the context and I'm still not feeling it, I'm sure the big man would admit it's far from the strongest thing he's done. End of really. As for your claims about the secrecy of Laz and the loveliness of Adipa, I'll leave that for someone else...
well if your not feeling it, then like u said, end of
as for the secrecy of Laz and the loveliness of Adipa, im speaking from my own experiances, when i went to the andipa show, he was very nice and talked about all the works, showed us around, showed us more from the back room that wern't out on display, even though it was clear we couldnt afford anywhere near the cheapest thing
when i went to the LAZ print store, and they had all the rare banksy originals upstairs on the 3rd floor, i was stopped from going up, i explained i was up from dundee on a day visit, and it would be nice to see them, but was told no again, even though looking up the stairs, i could see some nice originals, but because i wasnt interested in buying, it was out of bounds
well then, thats what i was meaning by 'taken out of context' You could put it anywhere, whatever the context and I'm still not feeling it, I'm sure the big man would admit it's far from the strongest thing he's done. End of really. As for your claims about the secrecy of Laz and the loveliness of Adipa, I'll leave that for someone else... well if your not feeling it, then like u said, end of as for the secrecy of Laz and the loveliness of Adipa, im speaking from my own experiances, when i went to the andipa show, he was very nice and talked about all the works, showed us around, showed us more from the back room that wern't out on display, even though it was clear we couldnt afford anywhere near the cheapest thing when i went to the LAZ print store, and they had all the rare banksy originals upstairs on the 3rd floor, i was stopped from going up, i explained i was up from dundee on a day visit, and it would be nice to see them, but was told no again, even though looking up the stairs, i could see some nice originals, but because i wasnt interested in buying, it was out of bounds
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by dotdot on Apr 9, 2009 14:57:38 GMT 1, You could put it anywhere, whatever the context and I'm still not feeling it, I'm sure the big man would admit it's far from the strongest thing he's done. End of really. As for your claims about the secrecy of Laz and the loveliness of Adipa, I'll leave that for someone else... well if your not feeling it, then like u said, end of as for the secrecy of Laz and the loveliness of Adipa, im speaking from my own experiances, when i went to the andipa show, he was very nice and talked about all the works, showed us around, showed us more from the back room that wern't out on display, even though it was clear we couldnt afford anywhere near the cheapest thing when i went to the LAZ print store, and they had all the rare banksy originals upstairs on the 3rd floor, i was stopped from going up, i explained i was up from dundee on a day visit, and it would be nice to see them, but was told no again, even though looking up the stairs, i could see some nice originals, but because i wasnt interested in buying, it was out of bounds
interesting G.
Andipa = accessible Laz - not so accessible ... well every story tells a picture... perhaps not eh ?
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You could put it anywhere, whatever the context and I'm still not feeling it, I'm sure the big man would admit it's far from the strongest thing he's done. End of really. As for your claims about the secrecy of Laz and the loveliness of Adipa, I'll leave that for someone else... well if your not feeling it, then like u said, end of as for the secrecy of Laz and the loveliness of Adipa, im speaking from my own experiances, when i went to the andipa show, he was very nice and talked about all the works, showed us around, showed us more from the back room that wern't out on display, even though it was clear we couldnt afford anywhere near the cheapest thing when i went to the LAZ print store, and they had all the rare banksy originals upstairs on the 3rd floor, i was stopped from going up, i explained i was up from dundee on a day visit, and it would be nice to see them, but was told no again, even though looking up the stairs, i could see some nice originals, but because i wasnt interested in buying, it was out of bounds interesting G. Andipa = accessible Laz - not so accessible ... well every story tells a picture... perhaps not eh ? ..
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by graeme501 on Apr 9, 2009 15:13:41 GMT 1, its only my personal experiances of what happened, ive been to LAZ a few times and always found them to be helpful and nice, just it wouldnt have killed them to let me see upstairs, especially since i was down for the day from scotland seeing shows
its only my personal experiances of what happened, ive been to LAZ a few times and always found them to be helpful and nice, just it wouldnt have killed them to let me see upstairs, especially since i was down for the day from scotland seeing shows
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by They call me Stephen on Apr 9, 2009 15:24:33 GMT 1, Are the pieces in the Andipa exhibtion built up from their own collection or have they 'borrowed' pieces from other galleries/owners for this?
The selection of Banksys on Andipa's website is nowhere near as extensive as the previous exhibition nor, i imagine, this upcoming one. If they are all part of Andipa's collection then they must surely have one of the most extensive collections at present, including Laz potentially! Are pieces not put onto their website as they are held back for serious collectors/buyers or is it Andipa stockpiling Banksys to see what happens price wise in the future?
Are the pieces in the Andipa exhibtion built up from their own collection or have they 'borrowed' pieces from other galleries/owners for this?
The selection of Banksys on Andipa's website is nowhere near as extensive as the previous exhibition nor, i imagine, this upcoming one. If they are all part of Andipa's collection then they must surely have one of the most extensive collections at present, including Laz potentially! Are pieces not put onto their website as they are held back for serious collectors/buyers or is it Andipa stockpiling Banksys to see what happens price wise in the future?
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by wiz on Apr 9, 2009 16:00:30 GMT 1, Both Laz and Andipa have always been A1 with me (Unlike a certain shi*e French auction house who i cant name but everyone probably knows because they are shi*e, the stinking rotten shi*e sucking snot gobblers)..
Both Laz and Andipa have always been A1 with me (Unlike a certain shi*e French auction house who i cant name but everyone probably knows because they are shi*e, the stinking rotten shi*e sucking snot gobblers)..
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Banksy โข Andipa Gallery, by lee3 on Apr 9, 2009 16:24:37 GMT 1, I was surprised to see Are you using that chair/Nighthawk's Cafe included in this show. Unless Acoris bought that outright from Laz (which is possible) then one can speculate that perhaps the two galleries are helping one another out. Laz was offering it at ยฃ1M last year but believe they had reduced the price to ยฃ850k in December or January. As for pricing of the rest of the work, I think many here will be pleasantly surprised. I've bought Banksy's from both galleries and both are priced rather well imho given the current environment and will work with able and willing buyers. I have nothing but praise for each gallery and both have been proactive getting prices in line with reality whereas I know plenty of dealers that are still listing inventory at '07/'08 highs. Should be a nice show and I'd love to get it into my schedule to get over there for it.
>>>Are the pieces in the Andipa exhibtion built up from their own collection or have they 'borrowed' pieces from other galleries/owners for this?<<<
I don't know that there is a 100% answer to this but it is no secret that Andipa have been major buyers of Banksy at auction for years now and are on the short list of galleries one would contact sourcing a specific image as next to Laz they have the most inventory for that artist that I've seen. I doubt much, if any is borrowed from other galleries and would speculate that most is probably owned outright by Andipa with perhaps a few on consignment.
>> Are pieces not put onto their website as they are held back for serious collectors/buyers or is it Andipa stockpiling Banksys to see what happens price wise in the future? <<<
There are very few galleries the world over that will list prices on a website for original works of art of substantial value. This is the norm and not out of the ordinary.
I was surprised to see Are you using that chair/Nighthawk's Cafe included in this show. Unless Acoris bought that outright from Laz (which is possible) then one can speculate that perhaps the two galleries are helping one another out. Laz was offering it at ยฃ1M last year but believe they had reduced the price to ยฃ850k in December or January. As for pricing of the rest of the work, I think many here will be pleasantly surprised. I've bought Banksy's from both galleries and both are priced rather well imho given the current environment and will work with able and willing buyers. I have nothing but praise for each gallery and both have been proactive getting prices in line with reality whereas I know plenty of dealers that are still listing inventory at '07/'08 highs. Should be a nice show and I'd love to get it into my schedule to get over there for it.
>>>Are the pieces in the Andipa exhibtion built up from their own collection or have they 'borrowed' pieces from other galleries/owners for this?<<<
I don't know that there is a 100% answer to this but it is no secret that Andipa have been major buyers of Banksy at auction for years now and are on the short list of galleries one would contact sourcing a specific image as next to Laz they have the most inventory for that artist that I've seen. I doubt much, if any is borrowed from other galleries and would speculate that most is probably owned outright by Andipa with perhaps a few on consignment.
>> Are pieces not put onto their website as they are held back for serious collectors/buyers or is it Andipa stockpiling Banksys to see what happens price wise in the future? <<<
There are very few galleries the world over that will list prices on a website for original works of art of substantial value. This is the norm and not out of the ordinary.
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