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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by goffy on Feb 25, 2007 18:44:28 GMT 1, If you buy what you like you cannot lose. If you buy to make money you'll win some and you'll lose some. Only time will tell if the 'next big thing' will still be around and talked about in a few years. Personally I really like Dan Baldwin's stuff and I think he will only get better. The quality of his prints goes to show the effort being put in to make them a bit more special. I haven't seen any of his canvases yet but if the prints are that good the originals I would guess would be brilliant.
If you buy what you like you cannot lose. If you buy to make money you'll win some and you'll lose some. Only time will tell if the 'next big thing' will still be around and talked about in a few years. Personally I really like Dan Baldwin's stuff and I think he will only get better. The quality of his prints goes to show the effort being put in to make them a bit more special. I haven't seen any of his canvases yet but if the prints are that good the originals I would guess would be brilliant.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by corblimeylimey on Feb 25, 2007 18:52:46 GMT 1,
I think that's a bit cruel.
I agree with goffyxtc, if you like it buy it. Personally neither Dan or 'Smurf bloke' have interested me enough to part with my money, yet. If it's investment you're after, then why art? it's a bit of a gamble isn't it?
I couldn't care less what the next big thing is, in fact it spoils it to a certain extent, I like Dolk and would like to buy a print of his in the future without paying a greatly increased price or having to be stuck at the computer pressing refresh all the time.
I think that's a bit cruel. I agree with goffyxtc, if you like it buy it. Personally neither Dan or 'Smurf bloke' have interested me enough to part with my money, yet. If it's investment you're after, then why art? it's a bit of a gamble isn't it? I couldn't care less what the next big thing is, in fact it spoils it to a certain extent, I like Dolk and would like to buy a print of his in the future without paying a greatly increased price or having to be stuck at the computer pressing refresh all the time. |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by romanywg on Feb 25, 2007 19:21:53 GMT 1, Dolks 'Che' , one of the best prints I have.
Dolks 'Che' , one of the best prints I have.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by corblimeylimey on Feb 25, 2007 19:40:23 GMT 1, Dolks 'Che' , one of the best prints I have.
Mine got pride of place too, bargain as well, the frame cost more than the print!
Dolks 'Che' , one of the best prints I have. Mine got pride of place too, bargain as well, the frame cost more than the print! |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by bldouble on Feb 25, 2007 20:11:54 GMT 1, whats the problem with disputing artwork. Whether these are the statements of the artists trying to influence people to buy them or people that have bought the prints to make some money. Make your own mind up and if you don't like the work why not use your so called position of responsibility to create an opposition to the attempts to influence us and others.
whats the problem with disputing artwork. Whether these are the statements of the artists trying to influence people to buy them or people that have bought the prints to make some money. Make your own mind up and if you don't like the work why not use your so called position of responsibility to create an opposition to the attempts to influence us and others.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by corblimeylimey on Feb 25, 2007 20:37:44 GMT 1, whats the problem with disputing artwork. Whether these are the statements of the artists trying to influence people to buy them or people that have bought the prints to make some money. Make your own mind up and if you don't like the work why not use your so called position of responsibility to create an opposition to the attempts to influence us and others.
I don't fully understand what you're getting at, but it's not my job to tell anyone else what and what not to buy based on what I like.
A site like this obviously attracts a lot of people that are loosely into the same kind of work, I'm all for hearing about artists and their work, particularly stuff I haven't heard about before.
People can make their own minds up I'm sure, we're not a bunch of sheep.
whats the problem with disputing artwork. Whether these are the statements of the artists trying to influence people to buy them or people that have bought the prints to make some money. Make your own mind up and if you don't like the work why not use your so called position of responsibility to create an opposition to the attempts to influence us and others. I don't fully understand what you're getting at, but it's not my job to tell anyone else what and what not to buy based on what I like. A site like this obviously attracts a lot of people that are loosely into the same kind of work, I'm all for hearing about artists and their work, particularly stuff I haven't heard about before. People can make their own minds up I'm sure, we're not a bunch of sheep. |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by bldouble on Feb 25, 2007 20:59:07 GMT 1, Not everyone makes their own mind up. Some minds are made up on what they think will sell and what is said on this forum gives alot of people an idea of what sells. All im saying the growing interest in this site probably will lead to even more artists, buyers exploiting this site in order of influencing markets. Therefore one way of combating this is to criticise the stuff that is sh*t to discourage this in the future.
Not everyone makes their own mind up. Some minds are made up on what they think will sell and what is said on this forum gives alot of people an idea of what sells. All im saying the growing interest in this site probably will lead to even more artists, buyers exploiting this site in order of influencing markets. Therefore one way of combating this is to criticise the stuff that is sh*t to discourage this in the future.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by gordy on Feb 25, 2007 21:11:33 GMT 1, Apparently there are lots of galleries trying to convince everyone on this forum that xyz...... is the next big thing!!!!! ;D ;D
Maybe we should push Zeus!! he is probably a top geezer...
and there are certainly alot worse out there!!!!! ;D 
It is soooooo....obvious whem someone on the forum is obviously trying to sell something..... smurfs....static....baldwin.....neate...not that there is anything wrong with the artists mentioned....
real talent will always shine through...faile's stuff is the dogs.b..
and the Blek le Rat prints are 10 times better in the flesh..... ;D 
Apparently there are lots of galleries trying to convince everyone on this forum that xyz...... is the next big thing!!!!! ;D ;D Maybe we should push Zeus!! he is probably a top geezer... and there are certainly alot worse out there!!!!! ;D It is soooooo....obvious whem someone on the forum is obviously trying to sell something..... smurfs....static....baldwin.....neate...not that there is anything wrong with the artists mentioned.... real talent will always shine through...faile's stuff is the dogs.b.. and the Blek le Rat prints are 10 times better in the flesh..... ;D |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by corblimeylimey on Feb 25, 2007 21:12:09 GMT 1, I sort of see what you're saying, but I think it's dodgy ground, as what one person thinks is s**t someone else will think is the dogs bollocks.
I don't want to give any advice to investors, they can look after themselves and should do their own reseach and they may win or lose, I don't care.
I do find it hard to believe that someone (investment aside) will buy something because someone else says it's good and then when someone else tells them it's crap they're then going to think it's crap. You've got to make your own mind up about art.
I sort of see what you're saying, but I think it's dodgy ground, as what one person thinks is s**t someone else will think is the dogs bollocks.
I don't want to give any advice to investors, they can look after themselves and should do their own reseach and they may win or lose, I don't care.
I do find it hard to believe that someone (investment aside) will buy something because someone else says it's good and then when someone else tells them it's crap they're then going to think it's crap. You've got to make your own mind up about art.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by stuey09 on Feb 25, 2007 21:14:16 GMT 1, Not everyone makes their own mind up. Some minds are made up on what they think will sell and what is said on this forum gives alot of people an idea of what sells. All im saying the growing interest in this site probably will lead to even more artists, buyers exploiting this site in order of influencing markets. Therefore one way of combating this is to criticise the stuff that is sh*t to discourage this in the future.
I'm not sure it is such a big issue if there are people who try and take advantage of this site to advertise their art. If it's poor art and someone buys it in the hope of making a few bob, then more fool them if it blows up in their face. However, if it brings some good art to our attention that inspires us to buy it because we like the look of it, then that can only be a good thing.
Not everyone makes their own mind up. Some minds are made up on what they think will sell and what is said on this forum gives alot of people an idea of what sells. All im saying the growing interest in this site probably will lead to even more artists, buyers exploiting this site in order of influencing markets. Therefore one way of combating this is to criticise the stuff that is sh*t to discourage this in the future. I'm not sure it is such a big issue if there are people who try and take advantage of this site to advertise their art. If it's poor art and someone buys it in the hope of making a few bob, then more fool them if it blows up in their face. However, if it brings some good art to our attention that inspires us to buy it because we like the look of it, then that can only be a good thing. |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by corblimeylimey on Feb 25, 2007 21:18:02 GMT 1, Not everyone makes their own mind up. Some minds are made up on what they think will sell and what is said on this forum gives alot of people an idea of what sells. All im saying the growing interest in this site probably will lead to even more artists, buyers exploiting this site in order of influencing markets. Therefore one way of combating this is to criticise the stuff that is sh*t to discourage this in the future. I'm not sure it is such a big issue if there are people who try and take advantage of this site to advertise their art. If it's poor art and someone buys it in the hope of making a few bob, then more fool them if it blows up in their face. However, if it brings some good art to our attention that inspires us to buy it because we like the look of it, then that can only be a good thing.
Hear Hear, that's roughly the point I was trying to make.
Not everyone makes their own mind up. Some minds are made up on what they think will sell and what is said on this forum gives alot of people an idea of what sells. All im saying the growing interest in this site probably will lead to even more artists, buyers exploiting this site in order of influencing markets. Therefore one way of combating this is to criticise the stuff that is sh*t to discourage this in the future. I'm not sure it is such a big issue if there are people who try and take advantage of this site to advertise their art. If it's poor art and someone buys it in the hope of making a few bob, then more fool them if it blows up in their face. However, if it brings some good art to our attention that inspires us to buy it because we like the look of it, then that can only be a good thing. Hear Hear, that's roughly the point I was trying to make. |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by bldouble on Feb 25, 2007 21:27:43 GMT 1, It grinds my bolts when someone tries influencing you to buy a print merely on the fact that theres 'celebraties across the pond' buying it. Every criticism towards knobheads saying that is good!
It grinds my bolts when someone tries influencing you to buy a print merely on the fact that theres 'celebraties across the pond' buying it. Every criticism towards knobheads saying that is good!
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by ABC on Feb 25, 2007 23:13:50 GMT 1, Its true that the forums, and I mean both here!! influence buying trends but being so negative about artists is a little harsh, most of the artists have been working their way up the ladder a lot longer than the Forums have been going and it has taken a lot of hard work and time for the Individuals to imerge. Be honest this is how Banksy has gained a lot of followers, forum starts, gets talked about, hyped, In press, more members join and talk, etc etc.
Same with Micallef, I Started the group over on the Lightside to talk about his work, that I knew about long before the forum was started, the same as we do with Mr B everyday - Its become a way of life for most and a good community, Agree we may Influence to some degree price rises but for Fu$k sake we are a small minority when it comes to the art market and most of the careers have already been mapped by the agents. I agree though that saying "The next big thing" every time we discuss an artist can be a little Over the top.
As for Dan Baldwin his prints are very good quality, pretty original IMO and good value, whether he is the next big thing, who knows? I think Mr B and Micallef has stolen the limelight for a while at least.
Its true that the forums, and I mean both here!! influence buying trends but being so negative about artists is a little harsh, most of the artists have been working their way up the ladder a lot longer than the Forums have been going and it has taken a lot of hard work and time for the Individuals to imerge. Be honest this is how Banksy has gained a lot of followers, forum starts, gets talked about, hyped, In press, more members join and talk, etc etc.
Same with Micallef, I Started the group over on the Lightside to talk about his work, that I knew about long before the forum was started, the same as we do with Mr B everyday - Its become a way of life for most and a good community, Agree we may Influence to some degree price rises but for Fu$k sake we are a small minority when it comes to the art market and most of the careers have already been mapped by the agents. I agree though that saying "The next big thing" every time we discuss an artist can be a little Over the top.
As for Dan Baldwin his prints are very good quality, pretty original IMO and good value, whether he is the next big thing, who knows? I think Mr B and Micallef has stolen the limelight for a while at least.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by tadghostal on Feb 26, 2007 9:25:21 GMT 1, Couldn't agree more. Although this will happen more and more. The forum dollar is worth a lot. Dan Baldwin has been pulled from obscrurity just on the basis of positive threads from this forum. Ramping will only continue. The thing to remember is that members that are never critical of art work are probably not to be trusted.
Well, then that is one resounding vote for my trustworthiness, because I'm going to keep on asking you guys--why the hell would you want a print with flowers and skulls on it?! Is it just so you can scream at the top of your lungs, "Look at me! I'm SOOOO different and crazy with my flowers and skulls and giraffes and ugly dogs all in one print. I have unique taste, just like all of my friends at the Banksy forum."
OK, I feel better now. Just needed to vent, because seriously--this thread had a few bright spots, but now its starting to sound like a bunch of wanking. And Dan, you're probably a really cool guy, but I hate your art work buddy. Sorry 'bout that.
Couldn't agree more. Although this will happen more and more. The forum dollar is worth a lot. Dan Baldwin has been pulled from obscrurity just on the basis of positive threads from this forum. Ramping will only continue. The thing to remember is that members that are never critical of art work are probably not to be trusted. Well, then that is one resounding vote for my trustworthiness, because I'm going to keep on asking you guys--why the hell would you want a print with flowers and skulls on it?! Is it just so you can scream at the top of your lungs, "Look at me! I'm SOOOO different and crazy with my flowers and skulls and giraffes and ugly dogs all in one print. I have unique taste, just like all of my friends at the Banksy forum." OK, I feel better now. Just needed to vent, because seriously--this thread had a few bright spots, but now its starting to sound like a bunch of wanking. And Dan, you're probably a really cool guy, but I hate your art work buddy. Sorry 'bout that. |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by ABC on Feb 26, 2007 15:30:54 GMT 1, It's good that you hate his work, I dont suppose for a minute he's bothered as then it leaves more for the people that do like it, anyway the place would be boring if everyone liked the same thing. If anyone is interested he has a show starting on the 22nd at the FORSTER Gallery in London, No I dont know him or Im not trying to plug his work, im just giving people options to decide whether they like it or not as most more than likely have not seen his works in the flesh.
It's good that you hate his work, I dont suppose for a minute he's bothered as then it leaves more for the people that do like it, anyway the place would be boring if everyone liked the same thing. If anyone is interested he has a show starting on the 22nd at the FORSTER Gallery in London, No I dont know him or Im not trying to plug his work, im just giving people options to decide whether they like it or not as most more than likely have not seen his works in the flesh.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by goffy on Feb 26, 2007 15:49:55 GMT 1, You say "why the hell would you want a print with skulls and flowers on it" What a stupid question! Why not say why do you want a print of a rat holding a placard? Or 2 grannies knitting jumpers? You buy what you like end of story.
You say "why the hell would you want a print with skulls and flowers on it" What a stupid question! Why not say why do you want a print of a rat holding a placard? Or 2 grannies knitting jumpers? You buy what you like end of story.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by ABC on Feb 26, 2007 15:58:22 GMT 1, I was going to mention the Grannies print but you got in there first!
Agreed - buy what you like end of story
I was going to mention the Grannies print but you got in there first!
Agreed - buy what you like end of story
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by corblimeylimey on Feb 26, 2007 16:01:58 GMT 1, Are you having a bad day tadghostal?
You've really slagged off Dan Baldwin & Damien Hirst today, while I have my preferences I don't get too nasty as after all it's just subjective opinion. I'd buy a Hirst if I had the money but wouldn't buy a Baldwin, people who like or dislike one or the other or both are not wrong either.
Are you having a bad day tadghostal?
You've really slagged off Dan Baldwin & Damien Hirst today, while I have my preferences I don't get too nasty as after all it's just subjective opinion. I'd buy a Hirst if I had the money but wouldn't buy a Baldwin, people who like or dislike one or the other or both are not wrong either.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by tadghostal on Feb 26, 2007 21:17:02 GMT 1, Eh, I don't know corblimeylimey. Mostly just wanted to stir things up a bit. Dan Baldwin is actually a lot of fun to read about and talk about because I hear a lot of people say they like him, but I have yet to hear any real reasons why, besides the hope that they might make a mint selling it someday in the future. I guess saying "it looks a lot better in person" is good enough. Maybe that would be a good suggested line for folks who do online dating--"Trust me, I look a lot better in person." I'm still waiting to hear what it is about his work that is so *great!* "It's really grown on me" doesn't tell me very much at all in that regard. See what I'm getting at?
goffyxtc and ABC, I take your point and agree with your spirit but not with your argument, at least not with your counter-examples.
Me: Skulls and giraffes and flowers on a bright colored background seems pointless.
You: Grannies knitting, or a rat holding a placard is pointless.
Me: Well, the grannies are knitting sweaters with messages taken right out of hip-hop street culture--they essentially play the straight man in a humorous send up. And the rats are a signature piece of the artist who used/uses them while bombing the streets, frequently to do the same thing--portray rats doing absurd things, or having an agenda, both of which are executed with a great deal of sincerity and skill, which I enjoy and it makes me laugh because its a novel idea, brilliant execution, and I get some feeling of being connected to acts of creation (vandalism) which I admire but would never do myself--its a bit of a vicarious thrill in addition to being a cool and unique image.
You: Buy what you like. I like Dan Baldwin. Stop being so mean tadghostal!
But that's not really the point at all, is it. I just want to hear somebody tell me exactly why they like the skulls and the flowers and the giraffes and ugly dogs. Not because they have to. Not because they feel compelled to, but because they WANT TO! Because Dan's work is so great, they want to share it with the rest of us who are, as of now, still scratching our heads thinking "So what's the big deal here?!"
PS, I really like to read these boards, and truly appreciate the opinions of others. Sometimes I disagree. Sometimes I laugh! Sometimes I have to say a few words simply because they're dying to be said. And I don't think there is anything wrong with saying art sucks. But apparently on these boards its only OK to say art sucks if Zeus is the artist, because really, "who likes him anyways?"
Does it really detract from the conversation? Heck no! If I love a restaurant that you can't stand for one reason or another, and I'm busy telling everybody how great it is--why shouldn't you be able to say "hey, i hear what you're saying, but the food there blows."? Sure you should. Its a conversation. There's room for a lot of opinions, including dissenting opinions like mine.
We wouldn't want to be the people trying to crush dissent, now would we?!
And Dan, if you're reading this--I thought your response to the thread with the humorously indignant reply, the picture with the gun--it was great. You're a cool cat. I'd be happy to buy you a beer and let you tell me that you like women despite what the folks on this thread would have the rest of us believe. Not that it matters.
Eh, I don't know corblimeylimey. Mostly just wanted to stir things up a bit. Dan Baldwin is actually a lot of fun to read about and talk about because I hear a lot of people say they like him, but I have yet to hear any real reasons why, besides the hope that they might make a mint selling it someday in the future. I guess saying "it looks a lot better in person" is good enough. Maybe that would be a good suggested line for folks who do online dating--"Trust me, I look a lot better in person." I'm still waiting to hear what it is about his work that is so *great!* "It's really grown on me" doesn't tell me very much at all in that regard. See what I'm getting at? goffyxtc and ABC, I take your point and agree with your spirit but not with your argument, at least not with your counter-examples. Me: Skulls and giraffes and flowers on a bright colored background seems pointless. You: Grannies knitting, or a rat holding a placard is pointless. Me: Well, the grannies are knitting sweaters with messages taken right out of hip-hop street culture--they essentially play the straight man in a humorous send up. And the rats are a signature piece of the artist who used/uses them while bombing the streets, frequently to do the same thing--portray rats doing absurd things, or having an agenda, both of which are executed with a great deal of sincerity and skill, which I enjoy and it makes me laugh because its a novel idea, brilliant execution, and I get some feeling of being connected to acts of creation (vandalism) which I admire but would never do myself--its a bit of a vicarious thrill in addition to being a cool and unique image. You: Buy what you like. I like Dan Baldwin. Stop being so mean tadghostal! But that's not really the point at all, is it. I just want to hear somebody tell me exactly why they like the skulls and the flowers and the giraffes and ugly dogs. Not because they have to. Not because they feel compelled to, but because they WANT TO! Because Dan's work is so great, they want to share it with the rest of us who are, as of now, still scratching our heads thinking "So what's the big deal here?!" PS, I really like to read these boards, and truly appreciate the opinions of others. Sometimes I disagree. Sometimes I laugh! Sometimes I have to say a few words simply because they're dying to be said. And I don't think there is anything wrong with saying art sucks. But apparently on these boards its only OK to say art sucks if Zeus is the artist, because really, "who likes him anyways?" Does it really detract from the conversation? Heck no! If I love a restaurant that you can't stand for one reason or another, and I'm busy telling everybody how great it is--why shouldn't you be able to say "hey, i hear what you're saying, but the food there blows."? Sure you should. Its a conversation. There's room for a lot of opinions, including dissenting opinions like mine. We wouldn't want to be the people trying to crush dissent, now would we?! And Dan, if you're reading this--I thought your response to the thread with the humorously indignant reply, the picture with the gun--it was great. You're a cool cat. I'd be happy to buy you a beer and let you tell me that you like women despite what the folks on this thread would have the rest of us believe. Not that it matters. |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by smashedhat on Feb 26, 2007 22:24:28 GMT 1, I bought a hand painted vase, have yet to hear back from the gallery as to when I can collect it. I haven't even seen the finished product yet :S Bought something you havnt seen? madness
Yep! Exciting though!
I bought a hand painted vase, have yet to hear back from the gallery as to when I can collect it. I haven't even seen the finished product yet :S Bought something you havnt seen? madness Yep! Exciting though! |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by goffy on Feb 26, 2007 22:40:49 GMT 1, I didn't say that the Rat and Grannies was pointless, just your question on why we would like DB's prints. At the end of the day it is all about personal taste. And Dan's work seems to provoke a lot of reaction as you can tell by the size of this thread.
I didn't say that the Rat and Grannies was pointless, just your question on why we would like DB's prints. At the end of the day it is all about personal taste. And Dan's work seems to provoke a lot of reaction as you can tell by the size of this thread.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by irf2112 on Feb 26, 2007 23:18:37 GMT 1, I didn't say that the Rat and Grannies was pointless, just your question on why we would like DB's prints. At the end of the day it is all about personal taste. And Dan's work seems to provoke a lot of reaction as you can tell by the size of this thread.
What sort of 'reaction' does it provoke in you? When you look at the skulls and flowers what do you see? I just see a design that would be better off as a silk scarf... Skulls being 'in' apparently... Art wise not much...
I didn't say that the Rat and Grannies was pointless, just your question on why we would like DB's prints. At the end of the day it is all about personal taste. And Dan's work seems to provoke a lot of reaction as you can tell by the size of this thread. What sort of 'reaction' does it provoke in you? When you look at the skulls and flowers what do you see? I just see a design that would be better off as a silk scarf... Skulls being 'in' apparently... Art wise not much... |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by numusic on Feb 26, 2007 23:24:37 GMT 1, I didn't say that the Rat and Grannies was pointless, just your question on why we would like DB's prints. At the end of the day it is all about personal taste. And Dan's work seems to provoke a lot of reaction as you can tell by the size of this thread. What sort of 'reaction' does it provoke in you? When you look at the skulls and flowers what do you see? I just see a design that would be better off as a silk scarf... Skulls being 'in' apparently... Art wise not much...
You don't know lesbianwednesdays mum by any chance do you ?
Skull and flowers.. errmm, makes me wanna kill people with good vibes (that smell nice) ;D
I didn't say that the Rat and Grannies was pointless, just your question on why we would like DB's prints. At the end of the day it is all about personal taste. And Dan's work seems to provoke a lot of reaction as you can tell by the size of this thread. What sort of 'reaction' does it provoke in you? When you look at the skulls and flowers what do you see? I just see a design that would be better off as a silk scarf... Skulls being 'in' apparently... Art wise not much... You don't know lesbianwednesdays mum by any chance do you ? Skull and flowers.. errmm, makes me wanna kill people with good vibes (that smell nice) ;D |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by ABC on Feb 27, 2007 0:38:41 GMT 1, I agree about the skulls they are in everything at the moment but its a trend and Im sure they will get dropped soon.
I agree about the skulls they are in everything at the moment but its a trend and Im sure they will get dropped soon.
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by gordy on Feb 27, 2007 1:22:14 GMT 1, Dan Baldwin..... The most lame image being pushed on this site is the dolk che..........
Lets buy one just in case he might turn out to be........the next big thingggggggggg........
Poor print and even more dull than dan's dog!!!! ;D ;D
Dan Baldwin..... The most lame image being pushed on this site is the dolk che.......... Lets buy one just in case he might turn out to be........the next big thingggggggggg........ Poor print and even more dull than dan's dog!!!! ;D ;D |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by Γ
gent Γacardi on Feb 27, 2007 2:16:27 GMT 1, Dan Baldwin..... The most lame image being pushed on this site is the dolk che.......... Lets buy one just in case he might turn out to be........the next big thingggggggggg........ Poor print and even more dull than dan's dog!!!! ;D ;D
Oh no you did NOT just bash Dolk!!!!  TAKE IT BACK!!!!
Dan Baldwin..... The most lame image being pushed on this site is the dolk che.......... Lets buy one just in case he might turn out to be........the next big thingggggggggg........ Poor print and even more dull than dan's dog!!!! ;D ;D Oh no you did NOT just bash Dolk!!!! TAKE IT BACK!!!! |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by RBK on Feb 27, 2007 6:58:15 GMT 1, I posted this in the 'Forums Influencing Sales?' thread but feel I need to air my thoughts again because I truly worry people are just buying shit for the sake of buying; or just following anything that is posted like a herd of sheep.
"Not sure about you guys, but I'm tired with a lot of the 'street/stencil' art currently out there. Sick of seeing hyper-surreal characters, and the following subject matter: gasmasks, guns, skulls, angels & soldiers. While I love me some Banksy, think my tastes are going back to more artistically talented art."
Is anyone else feeling the same???
I also wish I was a stock broker bc I'd just post recommendations here and make a killing 
I posted this in the 'Forums Influencing Sales?' thread but feel I need to air my thoughts again because I truly worry people are just buying shit for the sake of buying; or just following anything that is posted like a herd of sheep. "Not sure about you guys, but I'm tired with a lot of the 'street/stencil' art currently out there. Sick of seeing hyper-surreal characters, and the following subject matter: gasmasks, guns, skulls, angels & soldiers. While I love me some Banksy, think my tastes are going back to more artistically talented art." Is anyone else feeling the same??? I also wish I was a stock broker bc I'd just post recommendations here and make a killing |
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by runyaga on Feb 27, 2007 8:32:45 GMT 1, It is suspect that people are saying things such as "... Dan Baldwin be the next Micallef" (the inference, I believe is, Micallef is the next Banksy). And .. "the next" in this context to me is speculative in nature not aesthetic or popular. The street artist market has loads of people trying to make $$. Which ruins it for 'the lay people' - who want subversive/alternative imagery/art and not pay 3 months of mortgage for a print (never mind the originals).
Back to the art from Dan. I'm just not into it. It reminds me of O'Keefe or modern Kohlo but with a (POST?) Young Artist Movement twist. He shoots his paintings and gives you the bullets? Ugh. More mickey. More coke. More bush. It gets stale. I think Baldwin is *not* the next Micallef or Banksy. Banksy to me is witty, simple and raw. Micallef is Giacometti for the 21st century with a bit of Subpop (i'm referencing both music label and society) mixed together in the right dose. Both are inspiring to me. Baldwin is full of uninteresting symbols, bright colors and unconvincing associations.
-1 on Dan Baldwin.
Also.. even if he is the next Picasso. I may look back when his prints are 20k USD per print. And say "I should have bought one" but I would have just been speculating and untrue to myself - if I bought one. I am simply not inspired by his work. So why buy it? Others like it -- buy it! buy loads of it! But I highly doubt he will be the next Micallef, Banksy or Hirst.
cheers
alan
It is suspect that people are saying things such as "... Dan Baldwin be the next Micallef" (the inference, I believe is, Micallef is the next Banksy). And .. "the next" in this context to me is speculative in nature not aesthetic or popular. The street artist market has loads of people trying to make $$. Which ruins it for 'the lay people' - who want subversive/alternative imagery/art and not pay 3 months of mortgage for a print (never mind the originals).
Back to the art from Dan. I'm just not into it. It reminds me of O'Keefe or modern Kohlo but with a (POST?) Young Artist Movement twist. He shoots his paintings and gives you the bullets? Ugh. More mickey. More coke. More bush. It gets stale. I think Baldwin is *not* the next Micallef or Banksy. Banksy to me is witty, simple and raw. Micallef is Giacometti for the 21st century with a bit of Subpop (i'm referencing both music label and society) mixed together in the right dose. Both are inspiring to me. Baldwin is full of uninteresting symbols, bright colors and unconvincing associations.
-1 on Dan Baldwin.
Also.. even if he is the next Picasso. I may look back when his prints are 20k USD per print. And say "I should have bought one" but I would have just been speculating and untrue to myself - if I bought one. I am simply not inspired by his work. So why buy it? Others like it -- buy it! buy loads of it! But I highly doubt he will be the next Micallef, Banksy or Hirst.
cheers
alan
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Dan Baldwin π¬π§ New Print Release β’ Art For Sale, by mwjm0 on Feb 27, 2007 9:58:02 GMT 1, i love dan baldwins work. i think its deceptive in being colourful and bright on first looking but has possible deeper meanings if you look for them. The flowers and skulls (in the divine reveleations yellow skulls for example) that some people say look like wallpaper or clothes designs to me reprent life and death and the little insects crawling between them represent disease. The print to me shows the delicate balance between life and death. Any art with seemingly random images provokes the viewer in varying ways. I am very pretentious! The more i look at dan baldwins work the more i get out of it.
i love dan baldwins work. i think its deceptive in being colourful and bright on first looking but has possible deeper meanings if you look for them. The flowers and skulls (in the divine reveleations yellow skulls for example) that some people say look like wallpaper or clothes designs to me reprent life and death and the little insects crawling between them represent disease. The print to me shows the delicate balance between life and death. Any art with seemingly random images provokes the viewer in varying ways. I am very pretentious! The more i look at dan baldwins work the more i get out of it.
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