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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by hunter007 on Aug 18, 2011 13:53:42 GMT 1, It appeared as though the damage had been caused by the end cap being pushed in against the poster, although at first I gave him the benefit of doubt and agreed that it could have been caused by the royal mail and in such case he could have claimed compensation from them. Although I have tried to negotiate amicable solution IMO it was pretty clear from some of the response that this would not be possible and therefore after giving him to plenty of opportunity to resolve it I finally decided a small claim was the way forward. The cost was £25 and to be honest it is well worth it to stop the "I have spoken to trading standards and it is Buyer Beware" type replies and general annoying delaying tactics in hope I will forget it. He also wanted me to return it at my own expense before any refund was considered, but given some of his replies I would rather keep the evidence until a judge decides on when it is returned.
I sold a poster a while ago i think for approx 50 pounds, when i sent it it was mint and seemed to get damaged on route or when placed in the tube which i was really sure i was carefull with, it was very minor damage and i thought it could have been that it was damged removing it from the tube, Basically either way it was damaged and they buyer seemd like a nice guy and we decided on a part refund as ithe damage could easily be framed out,. WCould this have not been an option rather than claims, ? just a suggestion but from what i gather you have already started the claim?
It appeared as though the damage had been caused by the end cap being pushed in against the poster, although at first I gave him the benefit of doubt and agreed that it could have been caused by the royal mail and in such case he could have claimed compensation from them. Although I have tried to negotiate amicable solution IMO it was pretty clear from some of the response that this would not be possible and therefore after giving him to plenty of opportunity to resolve it I finally decided a small claim was the way forward. The cost was £25 and to be honest it is well worth it to stop the "I have spoken to trading standards and it is Buyer Beware" type replies and general annoying delaying tactics in hope I will forget it. He also wanted me to return it at my own expense before any refund was considered, but given some of his replies I would rather keep the evidence until a judge decides on when it is returned. I sold a poster a while ago i think for approx 50 pounds, when i sent it it was mint and seemed to get damaged on route or when placed in the tube which i was really sure i was carefull with, it was very minor damage and i thought it could have been that it was damged removing it from the tube, Basically either way it was damaged and they buyer seemd like a nice guy and we decided on a part refund as ithe damage could easily be framed out,. WCould this have not been an option rather than claims, ? just a suggestion but from what i gather you have already started the claim? |
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by nah on Aug 18, 2011 14:04:45 GMT 1, small claims court over a £50 print seems a bit excessive, wouldnt it save a whole bunch of time just to file a paypal complaint
small claims court over a £50 print seems a bit excessive, wouldnt it save a whole bunch of time just to file a paypal complaint
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by gibbin82 on Aug 18, 2011 14:13:08 GMT 1, Framing the damage out was something I also originally thought of, suggested and I would have been happy to compromise, but after waiting for a fortnight for a reply and the hostile response I received when I suggested that it appeared as though I was being ignored and it possibly would have to be decided in the small claims court if it couldn't be resolved, I did not feel so easy going and agreeable. I have now had several excuses and the suggestion that it is a "Buyer Beware" transaction leaves me with the belief that the seller does not intend to compensate me at all.
Framing the damage out was something I also originally thought of, suggested and I would have been happy to compromise, but after waiting for a fortnight for a reply and the hostile response I received when I suggested that it appeared as though I was being ignored and it possibly would have to be decided in the small claims court if it couldn't be resolved, I did not feel so easy going and agreeable. I have now had several excuses and the suggestion that it is a "Buyer Beware" transaction leaves me with the belief that the seller does not intend to compensate me at all.
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by Pistol on Aug 18, 2011 14:35:33 GMT 1, I cannot and will not comment on this particular deal but I will say I have dealt with Gibbin82 and he is a very fair very reliable person to deal with. Obviously I can only go on my experience and am not casting judgement or opinion on anyone else!
I cannot and will not comment on this particular deal but I will say I have dealt with Gibbin82 and he is a very fair very reliable person to deal with. Obviously I can only go on my experience and am not casting judgement or opinion on anyone else!
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by Happy Shopper on Aug 18, 2011 14:46:43 GMT 1, Annoying to receive something damaged, whatever you pay, but isn't £50 quite cheap for one of these anyway?
Aren't they usually £100 at least?
Annoying to receive something damaged, whatever you pay, but isn't £50 quite cheap for one of these anyway?
Aren't they usually £100 at least?
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by hunter007 on Aug 18, 2011 14:53:19 GMT 1, Annoying to receive something damaged, whatever you pay, but isn't £50 quite cheap for one of these anyway? Aren't they usually £100 at least?
It is cheap i have seen them go for 200
Annoying to receive something damaged, whatever you pay, but isn't £50 quite cheap for one of these anyway? Aren't they usually £100 at least? It is cheap i have seen them go for 200 |
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by fingerz on Aug 18, 2011 14:59:46 GMT 1, seen 1 on the bay go for £20 a couple of months back
seen 1 on the bay go for £20 a couple of months back
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by hunter007 on Aug 18, 2011 15:04:25 GMT 1, seen 1 on the bay go for £20 a couple of months back
signed?
seen 1 on the bay go for £20 a couple of months back signed? |
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by Cornish Crayon on Aug 18, 2011 15:08:37 GMT 1, seen 1 on the bay go for £20 a couple of months back
What.......a real one....WOW!!!!
seen 1 on the bay go for £20 a couple of months back What.......a real one....WOW!!!! |
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by des77 on Aug 18, 2011 15:11:02 GMT 1, forget court, suck it up and use the experience. Next time ask for images etc before paying (if you didnt this time)
forget court, suck it up and use the experience. Next time ask for images etc before paying (if you didnt this time)
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by crooked on Aug 18, 2011 15:34:42 GMT 1, the thing is when you get a damaged print even after you frame it and problems are taken care of, all you can remember is the bad experience and zero in on the damage. i know because it happened to me twice
the thing is when you get a damaged print even after you frame it and problems are taken care of, all you can remember is the bad experience and zero in on the damage. i know because it happened to me twice
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by fingerz on Aug 18, 2011 15:58:14 GMT 1, seen 1 on the bay go for £20 a couple of months back signed?
of course it was signed , would of only reached a fiver unsigned
seen 1 on the bay go for £20 a couple of months back signed? of course it was signed , would of only reached a fiver unsigned |
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by hunter007 on Aug 18, 2011 16:04:37 GMT 1, of course it was signed , would of only reached a fiver unsigned
i thought it was allot for unsigned .
of course it was signed , would of only reached a fiver unsigned i thought it was allot for unsigned . |
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by alistairkhalil on Aug 18, 2011 16:24:11 GMT 1, if the damage is minor.. i will buy it off you for 50 quid.. office in camden. here all day. hope this helps..
love and blessings..
if the damage is minor.. i will buy it off you for 50 quid.. office in camden. here all day. hope this helps..
love and blessings..
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by sohohoho on Aug 18, 2011 18:09:05 GMT 1, £50 inc. P&P for a Monkey Parliament which arrived damaged so now you're taking the seller to court? LOL. How did you pay for it?
£50 inc. P&P for a Monkey Parliament which arrived damaged so now you're taking the seller to court? LOL. How did you pay for it?
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by alistairkhalil on Aug 18, 2011 19:39:49 GMT 1, nyotaimori
nyotaimori
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by Warm Gun on Aug 18, 2011 20:30:13 GMT 1, I just looked this word up, where can I do this 
I just looked this word up, where can I do this |
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by alistairkhalil on Aug 18, 2011 20:41:05 GMT 1, pm sent!
pm sent!
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by gibbin82 on Aug 18, 2011 20:44:26 GMT 1, £50 inc. P&P for a Monkey Parliament which arrived damaged so now you're taking the seller to court? LOL. How did you pay for it?
Unfortunately the damage IMO was not minor and it was paid for by Paypal gift so no chance to recover my money there.
At the time (although it was only £50 to me it is not small change) the way the dialog was going a small claim was the only option, I had been trying to seek a compromise from the start, firstly by saying I may be able to frame the damage out and at that stage may have been open to some sort of partial compensation via a claim from the Royal Mail, then by asking for the sellers address so I could send back the poster and receive a refund after he had it back. But as the affair ran on and with each delay or reply I felt forced into taking a more hard line, until and after plenty of warning I took the option of starting a small claim (a Buyer Beware comment was the final straw). As it was I never wanted to escalate this to a claim and this could and should have been avoided with a little more understanding and trust. However I have had a couple of incidents in the past when a claim was the only solution (once with and eBay purchase and once with a insurance claim from Parcel2Go) and to be honest this deal had seemed to be starting to be following an all to familiar pattern.
When deals go wrong it is important both parties are reasonable and do their best to resolve it quickly and amicably, but when this doesn't happen sometimes a PayPal claim (when it isn't a gift payment) or an online small claim may be the best option on principal.
The good news is that the seller is now IMO being a lot more reasonable and made a partial refund, so after a little negotiation we should be able to resolve this and I will be able to cancel the claim.
£50 inc. P&P for a Monkey Parliament which arrived damaged so now you're taking the seller to court? LOL. How did you pay for it? Unfortunately the damage IMO was not minor and it was paid for by Paypal gift so no chance to recover my money there. At the time (although it was only £50 to me it is not small change) the way the dialog was going a small claim was the only option, I had been trying to seek a compromise from the start, firstly by saying I may be able to frame the damage out and at that stage may have been open to some sort of partial compensation via a claim from the Royal Mail, then by asking for the sellers address so I could send back the poster and receive a refund after he had it back. But as the affair ran on and with each delay or reply I felt forced into taking a more hard line, until and after plenty of warning I took the option of starting a small claim (a Buyer Beware comment was the final straw). As it was I never wanted to escalate this to a claim and this could and should have been avoided with a little more understanding and trust. However I have had a couple of incidents in the past when a claim was the only solution (once with and eBay purchase and once with a insurance claim from Parcel2Go) and to be honest this deal had seemed to be starting to be following an all to familiar pattern. When deals go wrong it is important both parties are reasonable and do their best to resolve it quickly and amicably, but when this doesn't happen sometimes a PayPal claim (when it isn't a gift payment) or an online small claim may be the best option on principal. The good news is that the seller is now IMO being a lot more reasonable and made a partial refund, so after a little negotiation we should be able to resolve this and I will be able to cancel the claim. |
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by Warm Gun on Aug 18, 2011 20:51:37 GMT 1, Another example as to why no one should ever use paypal gift.....sorry to hear your story btw.
Another example as to why no one should ever use paypal gift.....sorry to hear your story btw.
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by gibbin82 on Aug 18, 2011 21:05:20 GMT 1,
Update: reasonable dialog now resumed and compromise reached, so the claim will be canceled and all a little older, wiser poorer and happier (well maybe not as happy as we should have been ;D).
Thank you to the seller for finally sorting this out, no hard feelings on my part, just put it down to experience
Anyone who hasn't heard of the UK Government Money Claim Online service it can be a good way of resolving disputes fairly when there appears to be no other solution, Paypal gifters take note.
www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/
Update: reasonable dialog now resumed and compromise reached, so the claim will be canceled and all a little older, wiser poorer and happier (well maybe not as happy as we should have been ;D). Thank you to the seller for finally sorting this out, no hard feelings on my part, just put it down to experience Anyone who hasn't heard of the UK Government Money Claim Online service it can be a good way of resolving disputes fairly when there appears to be no other solution, Paypal gifters take note. www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/ |
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by kaisersosay on Aug 18, 2011 21:09:36 GMT 1, I bought one from a forum member for £40 including postage, a couple of small dinks you cant really see. I also bought another from eBay which came from Holland for £56 including postage mint. At the end of the day it's a poster to fill some wall space, not a £4,000 signed Banksy print. I can't stand paypal but if your buying it's a must, if selling I would rather poke my eye out with a sharp stick.
I bought one from a forum member for £40 including postage, a couple of small dinks you cant really see. I also bought another from eBay which came from Holland for £56 including postage mint. At the end of the day it's a poster to fill some wall space, not a £4,000 signed Banksy print. I can't stand paypal but if your buying it's a must, if selling I would rather poke my eye out with a sharp stick.
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by ryskip on Aug 21, 2011 11:04:59 GMT 1, As the title says... I bought from the Bristol show and it has been kept flat ever since. I might have the original tube although from memory it was pretty small.
I have no idea what these are worth so please PM with offers or feel free to suggest a fair price.
As the title says... I bought from the Bristol show and it has been kept flat ever since. I might have the original tube although from memory it was pretty small.
I have no idea what these are worth so please PM with offers or feel free to suggest a fair price.
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by begs on Aug 21, 2011 11:36:04 GMT 1, im after one ,whots a fair price ? ,whot do thay sell for
im after one ,whots a fair price ? ,whot do thay sell for
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by hlarmy on Aug 21, 2011 13:14:45 GMT 1, im after one ,whots a fair price ? ,whot do thay sell for
I think you're looking at around £50 for a mint one...
im after one ,whots a fair price ? ,whot do thay sell for I think you're looking at around £50 for a mint one... |
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by fingerz on Aug 21, 2011 13:19:37 GMT 1, 1 sold not long ago for 50 notes
1 sold not long ago for 50 notes
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by kaisersosay on Aug 21, 2011 18:16:18 GMT 1, I got out bid for one this afternoon on eBay, it went for £41.
I got out bid for one this afternoon on eBay, it went for £41.
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by begs on Aug 21, 2011 18:46:24 GMT 1, any body want to sell one for £ 50 must be mint
any body want to sell one for £ 50 must be mint
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Banksy • Monkey Parliament Poster, by victorwilliams on Aug 22, 2011 22:27:34 GMT 1, A bottle of wine seems a fair deal to me. Makes me laugh when people think these are worth £100+.
A bottle of wine seems a fair deal to me. Makes me laugh when people think these are worth £100+.
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