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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by Guest on Apr 25, 2008 22:18:47 GMT 1, i think its great value, i mean its a 36 screen screenprint, think how much time and effort went into making each one
Thanks Graham. 160 sheets, 36 colors, 5800 sheets hand-pulled over a period of 2 months, and Katherine spent 2 months on top of this drawing and working with the separations... I don't think anyone can understand what we went through in resolving this edition.
This isn't an Adobe Illustrator separating job... This is true talent and skill. There was over 70 years of printing experience working on this job... I am confident that you won't see anything like this coming from anyone but JetSet Graffiti.
i think its great value, i mean its a 36 screen screenprint, think how much time and effort went into making each one Thanks Graham. 160 sheets, 36 colors, 5800 sheets hand-pulled over a period of 2 months, and Katherine spent 2 months on top of this drawing and working with the separations... I don't think anyone can understand what we went through in resolving this edition. This isn't an Adobe Illustrator separating job... This is true talent and skill. There was over 70 years of printing experience working on this job... I am confident that you won't see anything like this coming from anyone but JetSet Graffiti. |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by graeme501 on Apr 25, 2008 22:20:31 GMT 1, good stuff, that could be your market niche ... pushing the boundries of screenprinting
good stuff, that could be your market niche ... pushing the boundries of screenprinting
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by romanywg on Apr 25, 2008 22:29:43 GMT 1, I am confident that you won't see anything like this coming from anyone but JetSet Graffiti. Obviously not heard of BRP!
I am confident that you won't see anything like this coming from anyone but JetSet Graffiti. Obviously not heard of BRP! |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by graeme501 on Apr 25, 2008 22:30:52 GMT 1, BRP's quality is top notch, but i wouldnt say they push boundries
BRP's quality is top notch, but i wouldnt say they push boundries
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by romanywg on Apr 25, 2008 22:35:48 GMT 1, BRP's quality is top notch, but i wouldnt say they push boundries
I think Kennards 'Haywain' pushed a few boundries at the time.
BRP's quality is top notch, but i wouldnt say they push boundries I think Kennards 'Haywain' pushed a few boundries at the time. |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by arcam on Apr 25, 2008 22:37:55 GMT 1, BRP's quality is top notch, but i wouldnt say they push boundries I think Kennards 'Haywain' pushed a few boundries at the time.
That was a 20 colour screenprint, so they've still 16 more to go. ;D
BRP's quality is top notch, but i wouldnt say they push boundries I think Kennards 'Haywain' pushed a few boundries at the time. That was a 20 colour screenprint, so they've still 16 more to go. ;D |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by romanywg on Apr 25, 2008 22:43:44 GMT 1, Should have made it 37 and finished the index finger off. 
Should have made it 37 and finished the index finger off. |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by cakeboy on Apr 25, 2008 22:55:16 GMT 1, Im exited ... 
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by maadbeats on Apr 25, 2008 23:01:52 GMT 1, I am extremely excited. I love heavy labor projects. $1000 for that much work is well worth every penny.
jetset why is shipping so high for US delivery??
I am extremely excited. I love heavy labor projects. $1000 for that much work is well worth every penny.
jetset why is shipping so high for US delivery??
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by graeme501 on Apr 25, 2008 23:05:06 GMT 1, i guess its signed yeah ?
i guess its signed yeah ?
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by alsbabar on Apr 25, 2008 23:24:19 GMT 1, the handtouched AP's has 38 possibly 39
the handtouched AP's has 38 possibly 39
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by graeme501 on Apr 25, 2008 23:25:53 GMT 1, did u get one of the AP's ?
did u get one of the AP's ?
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by alsbabar on Apr 25, 2008 23:26:44 GMT 1, one of hte Handtouched APs edition of 10, each print has a different message, this one says Freedoom
one of hte Handtouched APs edition of 10, each print has a different message, this one says Freedoom |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by alsbabar on Apr 25, 2008 23:27:22 GMT 1, yes i did graeme, not sure which one just yet
yes i did graeme, not sure which one just yet
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by graeme501 on Apr 25, 2008 23:27:49 GMT 1, top stuff
top stuff
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by arcam on Apr 25, 2008 23:31:32 GMT 1, one of hte Handtouched APs edition of 10, each print has a different message, this one says Freedoom
Honestly do you think that's worth an extra $1500?
one of hte Handtouched APs edition of 10, each print has a different message, this one says Freedoom Honestly do you think that's worth an extra $1500? |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by alsbabar on Apr 25, 2008 23:32:16 GMT 1, honestly yes - otherwise i wouldnt have bought one
honestly yes - otherwise i wouldnt have bought one
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by alsbabar on Apr 25, 2008 23:33:02 GMT 1, especially when you get it presented to you by Ron English himself!!!
especially when you get it presented to you by Ron English himself!!!
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by spirit on Apr 25, 2008 23:39:59 GMT 1, I almost don't want to say anything as this print seems to have had a unanimously good response. But, just to throw in a different opinion, I think it's just about the last thing I would ever want to put on my wall. I can appreciate why a lot of people like it, it's a strong image with good colour and there is no doubt Ron English is very talented but the subject matter does nothing for me at all.
I almost don't want to say anything as this print seems to have had a unanimously good response. But, just to throw in a different opinion, I think it's just about the last thing I would ever want to put on my wall. I can appreciate why a lot of people like it, it's a strong image with good colour and there is no doubt Ron English is very talented but the subject matter does nothing for me at all.
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by guest2 on Apr 25, 2008 23:41:26 GMT 1, especially when you get it presented to you by Ron English himself!!!
Send you're self a postcard.
especially when you get it presented to you by Ron English himself!!! Send you're self a postcard. |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by alsbabar on Apr 25, 2008 23:44:40 GMT 1, thats the beauty of art spirit, its subjective and its good to get a different slant on it. I would say hold fire till you see the Ron and Adam show, if you get the chance, then see how you feel after. As you know, most art is more impactful when seen in the flesh, and I can assure you none of Ron's work is an exception.
From talking to Ron's people throughout, I will say, he has put a lot of effort into this print, and to all who were lucky enough, they will feel privileged to own it.
thats the beauty of art spirit, its subjective and its good to get a different slant on it. I would say hold fire till you see the Ron and Adam show, if you get the chance, then see how you feel after. As you know, most art is more impactful when seen in the flesh, and I can assure you none of Ron's work is an exception.
From talking to Ron's people throughout, I will say, he has put a lot of effort into this print, and to all who were lucky enough, they will feel privileged to own it.
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by paulypaul on Apr 25, 2008 23:45:57 GMT 1, I posted this next door... I'm disappointed, not with the effort, but with the bullshit...
"$120 postage!!!!! In the late seventies/early eighties, in the UK, some peope used to sniff glue...Bostik was popular...
Has this craze just hit the US???
Or are you just taking the piss...?
S'funny - everytime I feel I'm getting bum raped when trying to buy a piece - I think less of the artist and the people they work with.
How do you feel..?
$120 to roll up a piece of paper and put it in a fucking tube... Fuck off!"
I posted this next door... I'm disappointed, not with the effort, but with the bullshit...
"$120 postage!!!!! In the late seventies/early eighties, in the UK, some peope used to sniff glue...Bostik was popular...
Has this craze just hit the US???
Or are you just taking the piss...?
S'funny - everytime I feel I'm getting bum raped when trying to buy a piece - I think less of the artist and the people they work with.
How do you feel..?
$120 to roll up a piece of paper and put it in a fucking tube... Fuck off!"
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by spirit on Apr 25, 2008 23:57:53 GMT 1, thats the beauty of art spirit, its subjective and its good to get a different slant on it. I would say hold fire till you see the Ron and Adam show, if you get the chance, then see how you feel after. As you know, most art is more impactful when seen in the flesh, and I can assure you none of Ron's work is an exception. From talking to Ron's people throughout, I will say, he has put a lot of effort into this print, and to all who were lucky enough, they will feel privileged to own it.
I totally hear what you are saying about seeing things the flesh - I don't doubt the impact of this piece at all - the web image is actually quite good and the print will be even better. But the subject matter won't change in the flesh will it? - and that's what bothers me about this piece - hopefully there wil be some others at the show that I like. If I had the money for a hand finished one of these today I would have just blown it on Denning.
thats the beauty of art spirit, its subjective and its good to get a different slant on it. I would say hold fire till you see the Ron and Adam show, if you get the chance, then see how you feel after. As you know, most art is more impactful when seen in the flesh, and I can assure you none of Ron's work is an exception. From talking to Ron's people throughout, I will say, he has put a lot of effort into this print, and to all who were lucky enough, they will feel privileged to own it. I totally hear what you are saying about seeing things the flesh - I don't doubt the impact of this piece at all - the web image is actually quite good and the print will be even better. But the subject matter won't change in the flesh will it? - and that's what bothers me about this piece - hopefully there wil be some others at the show that I like. If I had the money for a hand finished one of these today I would have just blown it on Denning. |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by Guest on Apr 26, 2008 0:10:57 GMT 1, thats the beauty of art spirit, its subjective and its good to get a different slant on it. I would say hold fire till you see the Ron and Adam show, if you get the chance, then see how you feel after. As you know, most art is more impactful when seen in the flesh, and I can assure you none of Ron's work is an exception. From talking to Ron's people throughout, I will say, he has put a lot of effort into this print, and to all who were lucky enough, they will feel privileged to own it.
Which version did you go for?
thats the beauty of art spirit, its subjective and its good to get a different slant on it. I would say hold fire till you see the Ron and Adam show, if you get the chance, then see how you feel after. As you know, most art is more impactful when seen in the flesh, and I can assure you none of Ron's work is an exception. From talking to Ron's people throughout, I will say, he has put a lot of effort into this print, and to all who were lucky enough, they will feel privileged to own it. Which version did you go for? |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by funyoung on Apr 26, 2008 0:15:49 GMT 1, Can i ask why the edition size has gone up? You tube video - 112, website 130, total increase approx 15%.
Probably shouldn't ask as love it but can't afford it (esp. knowing there is no room on the wall).
Can i ask why the edition size has gone up? You tube video - 112, website 130, total increase approx 15%.
Probably shouldn't ask as love it but can't afford it (esp. knowing there is no room on the wall).
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by alsbabar on Apr 26, 2008 0:16:38 GMT 1, hand touched edition of 10 are $2500 a piece, all a bit different but you can't choose the one you'd like...chosen for you  I was hoping for a bit more hand finishing than just some text on the right hand side. Or are there more differences that I couldn't see?
each txt is different, also each print has a handwritten message on the back
www.flickr.com/photos/23804505@N05/sets/72157604719352208/
hand touched edition of 10 are $2500 a piece, all a bit different but you can't choose the one you'd like...chosen for you I was hoping for a bit more hand finishing than just some text on the right hand side. Or are there more differences that I couldn't see? each txt is different, also each print has a handwritten message on the back www.flickr.com/photos/23804505@N05/sets/72157604719352208/ |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by alsbabar on Apr 26, 2008 0:17:24 GMT 1, ronhill i got the Handtouched AP
ronhill i got the Handtouched AP
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by Guest on Apr 26, 2008 2:06:09 GMT 1, nice one dude, great print. cant wait for the pics
nice one dude, great print. cant wait for the pics
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by Guest on Apr 26, 2008 6:14:31 GMT 1, good stuff, that could be your market niche ... pushing the boundries of screenprinting
That has always been my style. I am only content working at the highest level possible. We will continue to push the boundaries of what is possible in contemporary printmaking; not only in Silkscreen, but in many other media.
You will begin to see releases from us with some very desirable artist's working in many different mediums, including Lithography, Etching, Intaglio, Holographic Media, etc... One thing I can promise you won't see is boring repetitive work made for market. You will see us work with each artist to develop projects which fulfill their creative goals for multiple format work.
One of our goals is to make art for history, not necessarily for market... 50 years from now, no one is going to say shit about paying $120 for "shipping and handling". However, I suspect that they will be discussing the solid provenance that is attached to such a rare print, via the process DVD, Production Notes in Studio Binder, and Certificates of Authenticity... Remember, these materials are as limited as the prints themselves.
I would encourage everyone to go to the show next week and enjoy yourselves. Paul has put together an incredible presentation with the artist's. It's a real treat for London to have such talent together on view.
good stuff, that could be your market niche ... pushing the boundries of screenprinting That has always been my style. I am only content working at the highest level possible. We will continue to push the boundaries of what is possible in contemporary printmaking; not only in Silkscreen, but in many other media. You will begin to see releases from us with some very desirable artist's working in many different mediums, including Lithography, Etching, Intaglio, Holographic Media, etc... One thing I can promise you won't see is boring repetitive work made for market. You will see us work with each artist to develop projects which fulfill their creative goals for multiple format work. One of our goals is to make art for history, not necessarily for market... 50 years from now, no one is going to say shit about paying $120 for "shipping and handling". However, I suspect that they will be discussing the solid provenance that is attached to such a rare print, via the process DVD, Production Notes in Studio Binder, and Certificates of Authenticity... Remember, these materials are as limited as the prints themselves. I would encourage everyone to go to the show next week and enjoy yourselves. Paul has put together an incredible presentation with the artist's. It's a real treat for London to have such talent together on view. |
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Ron English ๐บ๐ธ Popaganda โข Pop Culture โข Toys, by Guest on Apr 26, 2008 6:26:27 GMT 1, I am confident that you won't see anything like this coming from anyone but JetSet Graffiti. Obviously not heard of BRP! I am very familiar with Black Rat Press. They have taken advantage of a wonderfully vibrant market in England, and Kudos to them! They are putting out some really fantastic work with some great talent... There are only a few studios in the world that would be able to handle a project like this... The studio that Ron and I chose for this project has been renowned for making the top quality silkscreen prints for the past 30 years. They are responsible for Banksy's LA series, as well as a lot of Shepard Fairey's extensive portfolio of silkscreen work. They have worked with everyone from Rauschenberg to Ruscha, Yamagata, and are currently producing a print for Sona at Murakami's studio. I believe it's logical to think that a studio with this portfolio of work is well-qualified . I am not making any comparisons here. It's a matter of fact.
I am confident that you won't see anything like this coming from anyone but JetSet Graffiti. Obviously not heard of BRP! I am very familiar with Black Rat Press. They have taken advantage of a wonderfully vibrant market in England, and Kudos to them! They are putting out some really fantastic work with some great talent... There are only a few studios in the world that would be able to handle a project like this... The studio that Ron and I chose for this project has been renowned for making the top quality silkscreen prints for the past 30 years. They are responsible for Banksy's LA series, as well as a lot of Shepard Fairey's extensive portfolio of silkscreen work. They have worked with everyone from Rauschenberg to Ruscha, Yamagata, and are currently producing a print for Sona at Murakami's studio. I believe it's logical to think that a studio with this portfolio of work is well-qualified . I am not making any comparisons here. It's a matter of fact. |
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