Urban Art Association

There was nice pair of red/brown rover chairs in bonhams vision 21 a few months back...I had a look at them and looked good.

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I thought they may go a bit higher then what they sold at.

There was also a small rocking chair which never made great money.

As Wiz said there are loads of copies around. There was a really bad pair on ebay of chairs that still made 1K a few weeks back.

The ones in Bonhams were fake / copies imo, if they were genuine they would have fetched a sky high result, i have collected and dealt only in Rons archive works since the 80s and can spot a fake a hundred and miles away (Is that how far Paris is from UK?), i also had numerous emails from collectors giving their opinion on them as copies, i told Bonhams as usual but they were not interested. I am 99% sure i know both where they came from and who entered them. There are only around half a dozen genuine Red ones ever made and i know of four in private collections. I am one of three private collector / dealers i know of that only sell one owner and authenticated works.
The Arad Rocking chairs sell at between 2k and 4k anyhow depending on what the weather is like, chrome and unscratched one end and black with scratches at the other (Lower) end.

Wiz, If Ron or RAA confirmed with Bonhams that the chairs where not originals. They would then surely pull them or amend the description? Is RA bothered? Will he still take the AR%? It would seem it is the collector who suffers ultimately.

Is there a similar design by Prouve?

Sadly it happens time and time again until RAA and in general everyone bar the seller and auction house are pissed off with it as well as everyone else with the real ones, auction houses could not give a s**t as long as there is a sale, if a doubt arises after purchase then a so called "Expert" is dragged in to adjudicate and all parties take a cut of his fee, result = why bother!. Re the Bonhams ones, most knew they were duff as most had been offered them before they went to sale. His ready mades are easy to fake you see much like Charlotte Perriand stools (Ha).
Prouve made a prototype recliner in 1924 using a Citroen (?) seat, Rons was a kind of homage to this much like the Puch stool was to the Castiglioni Sella.
ps. If anyone knows where there is a real and fully authenticated Red single Rover then please let me know as i have a list of collectors waiting for it.
Cheers
edit: Just to say that Ron, Caroline and all at RAA from the One Off days (inc Manuela who is now at Danny's) are the nicest people and are all absolutely trustworthy, reckon part of the problem is they never kept many records from Neale St days and have all gone on to different paths re Design works, i on the other hand along with other collectors of that era have been looking at the early works since the 80s so know it inside out.